[sage-devel] Sage notebook and safari
Hi, all, This is to complete an earlier discussion. I filed a bug with Apple regarding the failure of tab-completion with Safari 3.1. I think Tom has figured a way of dealing with this, but here is Apple's reply: We no longer send keypress for tab keys. That's likely the cause of this issue. Whatever you are doing in their[sic] keypress handler to do text completion should be done in the keydown handler. Please try that and let us know if that resolves the issue. Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income When LuteFisk is outlawed, Only outlaws will have LuteFisk --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Status of Sage 3.0.a5 with gcc 4.3/Arch Linux
Ok. 3.0.alpha6 with gcc 4.3 is down to the following doctest failure: sage -t devel/sage/sage/rings/real_double.pyx ** File /home/mabshoff/sage-3.0.alpha5/tmp/real_double.py, line 544: sage: a = -RDF(1)/RDF(0); a.str() Expected: '-inf' Got: 'inf' ** File /home/mabshoff/sage-3.0.alpha5/tmp/real_double.py, line 979: sage: a.is_positive_infinity() Expected: False Got: True ** File /home/mabshoff/sage-3.0.alpha5/tmp/real_double.py, line 991: sage: a.is_negative_infinity() Expected: True Got: False ** This is caused by GSL relying on the system's isinf() function which is either buggy or did change behaviours, i.e. isinf(-1/0) is supposed to be -inf, while on OSX 10.5 with GSL 1.10 that case returns inf. I did discuss this with Justin Walker at SD7, but then I never followed up whether this is the correct behavior or not. Interestingly enough GSL's isinf() function [that is used as a fallback in case the system doesn't provide it] returns -inf for isinf(-1/0). The patch is simple enough by fixing GSL. Thoughts? Cheers, Michael --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Fwd: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM Subject: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm an intern at OLPC and I'm throwing an event at UW this weekend. While the event is specifically about healthcare, there will be several people there that are strongly involved in OLPC. For some time SAGE has been kicked around as a back end for a graphic calculator application on the XO laptop, and there are many developers that would love to pick your brain on the subject. Since there will be several OLPC people at the UW this weekend, I was wondering if you would be interested in meeting up with us and discussing SAGE. This invitation of course applies to any of the other SAGE team members as well. The XO laptop is a great piece of machinery. Seth Woodworth, HealthJam Organizer. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. -Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM Subject: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm an intern at OLPC and I'm throwing an event at UW this weekend. While the event is specifically about healthcare, there will be several people there that are strongly involved in OLPC. For some time SAGE has been kicked around as a back end for a graphic calculator application on the XO laptop, and there are many developers that would love to pick your brain on the subject. Since there will be several OLPC people at the UW this weekend, I was wondering if you would be interested in meeting up with us and discussing SAGE. This invitation of course applies to any of the other SAGE team members as well. The XO laptop is a great piece of machinery. Seth Woodworth, HealthJam Organizer. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
Yes, I'm definitely interested. Please forward the meeting details when you've got them. I think the goals of the OLPC align quite well with some of the goals of Sage. You should probably also include the sage-edu folks who are probably going to be even more interested in this. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM Subject: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm an intern at OLPC and I'm throwing an event at UW this weekend. While the event is specifically about healthcare, there will be several people there that are strongly involved in OLPC. For some time SAGE has been kicked around as a back end for a graphic calculator application on the XO laptop, and there are many developers that would love to pick your brain on the subject. Since there will be several OLPC people at the UW this weekend, I was wondering if you would be interested in meeting up with us and discussing SAGE. This invitation of course applies to any of the other SAGE team members as well. The XO laptop is a great piece of machinery. Seth Woodworth, HealthJam Organizer. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. Ditto. I do own an XO machine so possibly can at least do some testing. -Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM Subject: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm an intern at OLPC and I'm throwing an event at UW this weekend. While the event is specifically about healthcare, there will be several people there that are strongly involved in OLPC. For some time SAGE has been kicked around as a back end for a graphic calculator application on the XO laptop, and there are many developers that would love to pick your brain on the subject. Since there will be several OLPC people at the UW this weekend, I was wondering if you would be interested in meeting up with us and discussing SAGE. This invitation of course applies to any of the other SAGE team members as well. The XO laptop is a great piece of machinery. Seth Woodworth, HealthJam Organizer. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. Ditto. I do own an XO machine so possibly can at least do some testing. How did you get that? I want one. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. -Alex -- Forwarded message -- From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM Subject: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm an intern at OLPC and I'm throwing an event at UW this weekend. While the event is specifically about healthcare, there will be several people there that are strongly involved in OLPC. For some time SAGE has been kicked around as a back end for a graphic calculator application on the XO laptop, and there are many developers that would love to pick your brain on the subject. Since there will be several OLPC people at the UW this weekend, I was wondering if you would be interested in meeting up with us and discussing SAGE. This invitation of course applies to any of the other SAGE team members as well. The XO laptop is a great piece of machinery. Seth Woodworth, HealthJam Organizer. I'm actively working with Luanne Burns on a version of her PhD thesis http://digitalcommons.libraries.columbia.edu/dissertations/AAI9333735/ called MEADOW: An integrated system for intelligent tutoring of subtraction concepts and procedures. Basically what happens is that the student does subtraction homework problems and this software monitors the students actions (using a combination neural net and rule based programming). If the student makes a mistake the system analyzes the mistake and explains the mistake (using pictures, scripts, audio, etc) to the student. Thus it acts as a constant tutor to the student in a home setting. Thus it is perfect for at home tutoring. We think that the 3rd world students will not have timely access to tutors and the parents may not have the necessary expertise to handle arithmetic. This is math in some sense but quite far away on the spectrum from doing Sage on an XO :-). It is probably best to have any further discussions off the Sage lists. Tim Daly Axiom --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Lulu publication
FYI, in the less than a month that it's been available, 22 people have purchased the (physical) Sage DVD from Lulu. On Jan 30, 2008, at 12:40 PM, David Joyner wrote: Thanks. I tested this by buying a copy online on the 25th. It was printed 3 days later and just arrived, carefully packaged, today. Printing quality and binding look good. No complaints. On Jan 25, 2008 4:35 AM, Robert Bradshaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You can now by a hard copy of the Sage tutorial at http:// www.lulu.com/content/1932117 I will be publishing a DVD there too as soon as I can get the iso to upload. - Robert On Dec 28, 2007, at 1:06 PM, William Stein wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 5:58 AM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 27, 2007 3:40 AM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I occasionally get emails like the one below. There's no way I have the time or inclination to burn and mail out DVD's of Sage to people. Does anybody: (1) want to volunteer to do this sort of thing in exchange for some shipping and handling fees; then all such requests get refereed to you, or (2) Is there some dot-com that does something like this for a fee? Maybe lulu does: http://www.lulu.com/en/help/disc_faq Apparently, It has to be set up first and I don't know how easy it is to upgrade to a new version. This looks excellent. Basically you upload an iso of the data dvd, and they burn and ship it on demand for $10/copy.This is perfect. I could just do this once every time we have a major release. I can add a few dollars on each DVD, to pay whoever actually does the work of putting together the ISO, updating it, etc. David -- many thanks for tracking this down. -- William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
I'm interested too. On Apr 17, 2008, at 4:02 PM, Yi Qiang wrote: Yes, I'm definitely interested. Please forward the meeting details when you've got them. I think the goals of the OLPC align quite well with some of the goals of Sage. You should probably also include the sage-edu folks who are probably going to be even more interested in this. On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Seth Woodworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:40 PM Subject: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, I'm an intern at OLPC and I'm throwing an event at UW this weekend. While the event is specifically about healthcare, there will be several people there that are strongly involved in OLPC. For some time SAGE has been kicked around as a back end for a graphic calculator application on the XO laptop, and there are many developers that would love to pick your brain on the subject. Since there will be several OLPC people at the UW this weekend, I was wondering if you would be interested in meeting up with us and discussing SAGE. This invitation of course applies to any of the other SAGE team members as well. The XO laptop is a great piece of machinery. Seth Woodworth, HealthJam Organizer. -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. Ditto. I do own an XO machine so possibly can at least do some testing. How did you get that? I want one. Now I think you might have to go to ebay or something. Before last Xmas OLPC offered a 1 for 2 deal, where you bought 2, they sent you 1, and gave the other one to a child somewhere. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: One Laptop Per Child Is very interested in Sage
At some point it was easy to get one if you were developing a possible interface or program to enhance the laptop. http://wiki.laptop.org/go/Developers_Program Not sure after the release how is now done. Regards, Alfredo On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 9:10 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 7:34 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 4:02 PM, David Joyner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 6:56 PM, alex clemesha [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 3:50 PM, William Stein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Is there anybody at UW that is interested in meeting with some OLPC people? (I'm cc'ing this to sage-devel, because people there are generally interested in OLPC.) I'm not in Seattle, so I can't meet with the OLPC people, but a very enthusiastic +1 on this effort. Sounds awesome. Ditto. I do own an XO machine so possibly can at least do some testing. How did you get that? I want one. Now I think you might have to go to ebay or something. Before last Xmas OLPC offered a 1 for 2 deal, where you bought 2, they sent you 1, and gave the other one to a child somewhere. William --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Sage notebook and safari
On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, This is to complete an earlier discussion. I filed a bug with Apple regarding the failure of tab-completion with Safari 3.1. I think Tom has figured a way of dealing with this, but here is Apple's reply: We no longer send keypress for tab keys. That's likely the cause of this issue. Whatever you are doing in their[sic] keypress handler to do text completion should be done in the keydown handler. Please try that and let us know if that resolves the issue. Thanks. Tom and I fixed this problem last week. The above paragraph is basically what is behind how we fixed the problem, which is reassuring. Thanks for the follow up. William -- William Stein Associate Professor of Mathematics University of Washington http://wstein.org --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
[sage-devel] Re: Sage notebook and safari
On Apr 17, 2008, at 19:07 , William Stein wrote: On Thu, Apr 17, 2008 at 12:14 PM, Justin C. Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all, This is to complete an earlier discussion. I filed a bug with Apple regarding the failure of tab-completion with Safari 3.1. I think Tom has figured a way of dealing with this, but here is Apple's reply: We no longer send keypress for tab keys. That's likely the cause of this issue. Whatever you are doing in their[sic] keypress handler to do text completion should be done in the keydown handler. Please try that and let us know if that resolves the issue. Thanks. Tom and I fixed this problem last week. The above paragraph is basically what is behind how we fixed the problem, which is reassuring. I saw Tom's msg to the list, but being afflicted with GRS (GUI Rejection Syndrome), it was not at all clear to me that the fix he reported and Apple's comments were in any way related :-} Justin -- Justin C. Walker, Curmudgeon-At-Large Director Institute for the Enhancement of the Director's Income Weaseling out of things is what separates us from the animals. Well, except the weasel. - Homer J Simpson --~--~-~--~~~---~--~~ To post to this group, send email to sage-devel@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/sage-devel URLs: http://www.sagemath.org -~--~~~~--~~--~--~---
