Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-12 Thread m. allan noah
On Thu, Sep 12, 2019 at 4:36 AM Jonathan Buzzard  wrote:
>
> On Wed, 2019-09-11 at 16:37 -0400, m. allan noah wrote:
> > Probably not, as this seems to cause problems with sending mail to
> > yahoo and gmail users because of DMARC policy checking.
> >
>
> This significant change (because it is going to break a large number of
> subscribers filtering) should have been announced to the list not
> silently implemented.

Housefires and wars are significant. This is just a change to an email
subject line :)

But otherwise, I agree with you, I should have announced this
particular change more widely.

I'm going to turn the feature back on now, and we can see if posts
from Yahoo email addresses cause all our gmail subscribers to be
unsubscribed, again.

allan
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Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-12 Thread m. allan noah
Well, I changed a few different settings at the same time, to stop the
mass unsubscribes quickly. I could do a binary search, and turn the
subject line manipulation back on. If that causes a problem, I'll
revert the change.

allan

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 5:40 PM Ulf Zibis  wrote:
>
> So bad :-(
>
> I'm subscribed to many lists, which all have such tags in the subject
> line.. So I'm wondering why only [sane-devel] has this problem.
>
> -Ulf
>
> Am 11.09.19 um 22:37 schrieb m. allan noah:
> > Probably not, as this seems to cause problems with sending mail to
> > yahoo and gmail users because of DMARC policy checking.
> >
> > allan
> >
> > On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:16 PM Ulf Zibis  wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> since some days, the header [sane-devel] is no more in the subject line
> >> of the list messages.
> >>
> >> Is there a chance, that it will come back?
> >>
> >> -Ulf
> >>
> >> --
> >> Von meinem Seibert gesendet
> >>
> >>
> >
>


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Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-12 Thread Philip Rhoades

Ulf,


On 2019-09-12 14:54, Olaf Meeuwissen wrote:

Hi Ulf,

Ulf Zibis writes:


So bad :-(

I'm subscribed to many lists, which all have such tags in the subject
line.. So I'm wondering why only [sane-devel] has this problem.


There's a

  X-BeenThere: sane-devel@alioth-lists.debian.net

header that you might be able to use for filtering purposes if that's
what you're looking for.  Depending on your mail receiving setup you
could even insert [sane-devel] in the header on your end based on that
if you're looking for a visual clue.

# My mail reader, mu4e, inserts a
#
#   List: sane-devel.alioth-lists.debian.net
#
# header somehow :-)  I don't remember the details but I think it uses
# one (or several?) of the List-* headers to do so.

Hope that helps,



I use maildrop a pre-filter to put incoming messages into appropriate 
folders - by sender etc - but this is on a Maildir setup so I don't know 
if it would work for you . .


P.
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Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-12 Thread Jonathan Buzzard
On Wed, 2019-09-11 at 16:37 -0400, m. allan noah wrote:
> Probably not, as this seems to cause problems with sending mail to
> yahoo and gmail users because of DMARC policy checking.
> 

This significant change (because it is going to break a large number of
subscribers filtering) should have been announced to the list not
silently implemented.

JAB.

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Fife, United Kingdom.




Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-11 Thread Olaf Meeuwissen
Hi Ulf,

Ulf Zibis writes:

> So bad :-(
>
> I'm subscribed to many lists, which all have such tags in the subject
> line.. So I'm wondering why only [sane-devel] has this problem.

There's a

  X-BeenThere: sane-devel@alioth-lists.debian.net

header that you might be able to use for filtering purposes if that's
what you're looking for.  Depending on your mail receiving setup you
could even insert [sane-devel] in the header on your end based on that
if you're looking for a visual clue.

# My mail reader, mu4e, inserts a
#
#   List: sane-devel.alioth-lists.debian.net
#
# header somehow :-)  I don't remember the details but I think it uses
# one (or several?) of the List-* headers to do so.

Hope that helps,
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Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-11 Thread Ulf Zibis
So bad :-(

I'm subscribed to many lists, which all have such tags in the subject
line.. So I'm wondering why only [sane-devel] has this problem.

-Ulf

Am 11.09.19 um 22:37 schrieb m. allan noah:
> Probably not, as this seems to cause problems with sending mail to
> yahoo and gmail users because of DMARC policy checking.
>
> allan
>
> On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:16 PM Ulf Zibis  wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> since some days, the header [sane-devel] is no more in the subject line
>> of the list messages.
>>
>> Is there a chance, that it will come back?
>>
>> -Ulf
>>
>> --
>> Von meinem Seibert gesendet
>>
>>
>



Re: Missing list subject header

2019-09-11 Thread m. allan noah
Probably not, as this seems to cause problems with sending mail to
yahoo and gmail users because of DMARC policy checking.

allan

On Wed, Sep 11, 2019 at 4:16 PM Ulf Zibis  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> since some days, the header [sane-devel] is no more in the subject line
> of the list messages.
>
> Is there a chance, that it will come back?
>
> -Ulf
>
> --
> Von meinem Seibert gesendet
>
>


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"well, I stand up next to a mountain- and I chop it down with the edge
of my hand"