[sane-devel] help with Epson 636U debug

2004-07-07 Thread Fritz Lang
Hi all,

here's what the response is.

  setenv SANE_DEBUG_EPSON 255; setenv SANE_DEBUG_SANEI_USB 255; 
scanimage  test.pnm
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of sanei_usb to 255.
usb_set_debug: Setting debugging level to 255 (on)
usb_os_find_busses: Found 001
usb_os_find_devices: Found USB device at location 0x0f00
usb_os_find_devices: Found 001-05ac-8005-09-00 on 001 at location 0x0f00
usb_os_find_devices: Found USB device at location 0x0f10
usb_os_find_devices: Found 002-04b8-0101-ff-ff on 001 at location 0x0f10
usb_os_open: 04b8:0101
usb_control_msg: 128 6 512 0 0xbfffed48 8 1000
USB error: usb_control_msg(DeviceRequestTO): transaction timed out
Unable to get descriptor (-60)
usb_os_close: 04b8:0101
usb_os_open: 05ac:8005
usb_os_open(USBDeviceOpenSeize): another process has device opened 
for exclusive access
usb_control_msg: 128 6 512 0 0xbfffed48 8 1000
usb_control_msg: 128 6 512 0 0x301c70 27 1000
usb_os_close: 05ac:8005
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005, interface 0 doesn't 
look like a scanner (9/9)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005: no suitable interfaces
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x04b8/0x0101 is not configured
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: found 0 devices
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x1606, product=0x0010
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x1606, product=0x0030
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x1606, product=0x0130
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of sanei_usb to 255.
usb_set_debug: Setting debugging level to 255 (on)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005, interface 0 doesn't 
look like a scanner (9/9)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005: no suitable interfaces
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x04b8/0x0101 is not configured
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: found 0 devices
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x1606, product=0x0230
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_open: trying to open device `/dev/usbscanner'
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_open: can't find device `/dev/usbscanner' in list
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of sanei_usb to 255.
usb_set_debug: Setting debugging level to 255 (on)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005, interface 0 doesn't 
look like a scanner (9/9)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005: no suitable interfaces
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x04b8/0x0101 is not configured
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: found 0 devices
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x07b3, product=0x0001
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x0458, product=0x2004
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of sanei_usb to 255.
usb_set_debug: Setting debugging level to 255 (on)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005, interface 0 doesn't 
look like a scanner (9/9)
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x05ac/0x8005: no suitable interfaces
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: device 0x04b8/0x0101 is not configured
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_init: found 0 devices
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x1a20
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x1a26
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x2022
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x1a2a
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x2040
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x2060
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x207e
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x20be
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x20c0
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x20b0
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x20de
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x20fc
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04a5, product=0x20fe
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x0002
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x0001
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x2061
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x2093
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x2091
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x2095
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x2097
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x208d
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x20ff
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x208f
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x06bd, product=0x20fd
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04b8, product=0x0114
[sanei_usb] sanei_usb_find_devices: vendor=0x04b8, product=0x011f
usb_os_find_busses: Found 001
usb_os_find_devices: Found USB device at location 0x0f00
usb_os_find_devices: Found 001-05ac-8005-09-00 on 001 at location 0x0f00
usb_os_find_devices: Found USB device at location 0x0f10
usb_os_find_devices: Found 002-04b8-0101-ff-ff on 001 at location 0x0f10
[sanei_debug] Setting debug level of 

[sane-devel] USB-Scanner Medion 3810 is actually a Medion MD 6190

2004-07-07 Thread Georg Halfas
I'm sorry, by mistake I sent the wrong scanner-name actually it's a
Medion MD 6190 Slim 1200 U2


Hi,

I'm working with the above mentioned scanner but I can't get it running
with SuSE-Linux 9.1. As I could not find support within my distribution
I tried to find out which scanner it exactly is with
'sane-find-scanner'. The result was: 
found USB scanner (vendor=0x0461, product=0x037b) at
libusb:001:002

The USB-ID-list on 'www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids' says that it seems to be
a Primax sanner but the device number is not mentioned in that section.

The command: scanimage -L stated 'No scanners were identified' 

Does anybody has any solution I could try out?

Many thanks for your help

-- 
Georg Halfas georg.hal...@gmx.net




[sane-devel] USB-Scanner Medion 3810 is actually a Medion MD 6190

2004-07-07 Thread Gerhard Jaeger
Hi,

regarding the results of our search-engine, which should always be consulted,
the scanner is marked as not supported.

Sorry,
  Gerhard

On Wednesday 07 July 2004 10:01, Georg Halfas wrote:
 I'm sorry, by mistake I sent the wrong scanner-name actually it's a
 Medion MD 6190 Slim 1200 U2


 Hi,

 I'm working with the above mentioned scanner but I can't get it running
 with SuSE-Linux 9.1. As I could not find support within my distribution
 I tried to find out which scanner it exactly is with
 'sane-find-scanner'. The result was:
 found USB scanner (vendor=0x0461, product=0x037b) at
 libusb:001:002

 The USB-ID-list on 'www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids' says that it seems to be
 a Primax sanner but the device number is not mentioned in that section.

 The command: scanimage -L stated 'No scanners were identified'

 Does anybody has any solution I could try out?

 Many thanks for your help




[sane-devel] Epson Perfection 1670 and high resolution

2004-07-07 Thread Alexandre Averyanov
Hi,

 I have the same problem but already with SANE
1.0.14:
 gray images obtained from scanner using 1600 dpi
 (only!) have strange vertical stripes. As for 800
dpi
 it's ok.

That's a different bug then (which I haven't heard of
before). It only affects gray images? (i.e. 1600 dpi
in color work fine?)

There is the same problem not only for gray but for
color images also.



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[sane-devel] USB-Scanner Medion 3810 is actually a Medion MD 6190

2004-07-07 Thread Georg Halfas
Am Mi, den 07.07.2004 schrieb Gerhard Jaeger um 10:25:
 Hi,
 
 regarding the results of our search-engine, which should always be consulted,
 the scanner is marked as not supported.

Is there any support in sight. I mean this is a scanner sold by Aldi in
Germany at a quite cheap price. So there might be a lot of people having
the same problem as I do.

 
 Sorry,
   Gerhard
 
 On Wednesday 07 July 2004 10:01, Georg Halfas wrote:
  I'm sorry, by mistake I sent the wrong scanner-name actually it's a
  Medion MD 6190 Slim 1200 U2
 
 
  Hi,
 
  I'm working with the above mentioned scanner but I can't get it running
  with SuSE-Linux 9.1. As I could not find support within my distribution
  I tried to find out which scanner it exactly is with
  'sane-find-scanner'. The result was:
  found USB scanner (vendor=0x0461, product=0x037b) at
  libusb:001:002
 
  The USB-ID-list on 'www.linux-usb.org/usb.ids' says that it seems to be
  a Primax sanner but the device number is not mentioned in that section.
 
  The command: scanimage -L stated 'No scanners were identified'
 
  Does anybody has any solution I could try out?
 
  Many thanks for your help
 




[sane-devel] discussion: Future of SANE-project

2004-07-07 Thread m. allan noah
these all sound like good ideas, (other than your points about free vs 
proprietary software, which i strongly dislike) and it is certainly worth 
explaining the value of sane to any vendor who will listen. however, your 
point seems revolve around wanting to supplant twain by building an 
evangalist organization, and wanting the sane developers to spend time to 
do it. In case you had not noticed, we often ARE hobbyists.

like any other open-source project, if you want something, you should be 
prepared to do it yourself. 'show me the code' by picking a vendor, 
figuring out if the backend maintainer has any good contacts, and start 
talking to the company yourself.

allan

On Wed, 7 Jul 2004, David N. Paules wrote:

 Perhaps I misunderstood SANE's goals. From what I've seen, the backends do 
 not dictate what the front-ends look like, only their capability. I don't 
 understand why the bluster about multiple front-ends and more control over 
 the gui. I was under the impression that one sane backend for a device will 
 support multiple applications (front-ends) such as image capture, OCR, 
 digital camera photo image acquisition, video acquisition from a digital 
 camcorder, etc.
 
 Besides, the SANE project is open for review/suggestions for enhancement, so 
 why not get some feedback from scanner makers on what makes SANE a non-option 
 for the future? What 'minimum requirements' are missing from the current 
 architecture?
 
 I can see your point about GPL'd backends. I agree it is easier to debug and 
 extend them. But here's my point: Do you want to be the one always repairing 
 and fixing scanners to work with SANE? Or do you want all the manufacturers 
 to feel responsible for ensuring SANE compliance? If SANE is architected 
 intelligently (i.e., backwards compliance with older backends), open source 
 backends may not be necessary.
 
 The manufacturers will currently see the SANE org as a free resource for 
 reaching other markets they didn't officially target (i.e. the *nix markets). 
 There is no urgency or requirement for them to support SANE just because the 
 project is open source. In fact, that is the number one reason they will NOT 
 be concerned. 'Those hackers at SANE-project.org will make my device 
 compliant with their software. And I don't have to pay for it.'
 
 But, if the ultimate goal of SANE is to supplant TWAIN as the standard for 
 accessing image devices, shouldn't more effort be put on making SANE the 
 future standard. This route will cause scanner makers and their support 
 network to conciously choose to either support or not support the new 
 standard. The SANE project's developers should then concentrate on enhancing 
 the architecture, ensure backwards compatibility, create and market 
 compliance badges, create plugins for Adobe products (like existing TWAIN 
 plugins), etc. and not write new backend modules for each new device that 
 comes on the market.
 
 Perhaps working examples demonstrating how scanner makers can leverage their 
 investment in TWAIN support while migrating to SANE might be useful for 
 getting scanner makers to take notice of SANE. If an upgrade path was readily 
 shown, techno-geeks at the manufacturer might prefer and sell the SANE idea 
 to managers within the company.
 
 Formal propoganda of industry heavyweight support (a consortium of scanner 
 makers and front-end application development houses) on the web-site might 
 make other makers feel the need to join in.
 
 Without this kind of direction, I simply see SANE as being a hobbyist-level 
 effort which is why I questioned the future of it. Thanks for listening and 
 answering my questions.
 
 Dave Paules
 Quantum Leap Innovations
 
   m. allan noah wrote:
it is important to remember that the developers of sane 
  are volunteers 
just like you. most of us got involved because we had a 
  lame scanner too. 
we probably dont have time for such evangelism.
   
   But if someone was offering
  
  sure, sure. i got no problem with someone acting as a liason 
  to hardware 
  vendors. i do this myself with fujitsu.
  
that said, even if someone had the time to run around and 
  convince vendors 
of the merits of sane, there would be at least two 
  recurring sentiments:

1. sane spec is not complete, cause it does not support various 
LEDs,buttons or sensors that the manufacturers believe 
  add so much value 
(and brand distinction) to their products.
   
   Proposals to include this have been discussed, possibly 
  input from a 
   manufacture would help.
  
  sure, and none of us ever had the time to actually formallize the 
  proposal, let alone get input from manuf.
  
2. they are going to want more control over the gui so 
  they can do things 
like show pictures and diagrams of the scanner, which 
  means they are going 
to write their own front-end half the time.

   Or repackage existing - under GPL - is this a problem.
  
  a 

[sane-devel] (no subject)

2004-07-07 Thread Ronald Humphries
Hello Cosmin,

in June I wrote this message, since this time I was not hearing anything
from you. Do you had seen my message?
I´m very interested in working together, please seen me a short notice.

Many thanks

Ronald



Hello Cosmin,

It's the complete driver. Anything needed to acces the
scanner is there.
That´s good, that will make it not so difficult. So normally, we
will find all parts what we will need in the sources.
Do you got also some documentation from Mustek?

Yes, I need help, somebody to talk to. I thought I can
do it all alone, but I can't. I would really like you
ground. What do you think?

Yes, I will need all informations. Then we will talk about the same
things. Do you think it will be possible to get the same as you have?
Can you ask them? 

 Normally I have some time in the evening for
 programming, not much,
 because I´m alone with my 4 year old kid.
Send him all the best from me :)
Many thanks. 

Do you have a step list for what has to be done, to get this into sane
working? But I think first of all, we must get the check-usb-chip
program working correctly for the scanner.

Ronald
-- 
Ronald Humphries ro...@gmx.de




[sane-devel] discussion: Future of SANE-project

2004-07-07 Thread Mike Fedyk
m. allan noah wrote:

do it. In case you had not noticed, we often ARE hobbyists.

like any other open-source project, if you want something, you should be 
prepared to do it yourself. 'show me the code' by picking a vendor, 
figuring out if the backend maintainer has any good contacts, and start 
talking to the company yourself.

I agree.

But, if more people who know about the efforts they can point others in 
the right direction if they want to evangalize.  True, many may want to 
have others do the work, but usually several people putting in a little 
time can do more than one putting in a lot of time.



[sane-devel] please help w/Epson 636U and Panther

2004-07-07 Thread Karl Heinz Kremer
I'm about to receive a Perfection 636S, which uses the same command set 
as
the 636U. This means that I can (for the first time) actually debug this
problem myself. I can assure you that this problem will be fixed in a 
few
weeks.

Karl Heinz


On Jul 4, 2004, at 4:03 PM, Julien BLACHE wrote:

 Henning Meier-Geinitz henn...@meier-geinitz.de wrote:

 Hi,

 Anyway, make sure that a line containing only usb is in epson.conf.
 If that's the case, show us the complete log. To make the log shorter,
 you can disable everything but epson in dll.conf.

 Support for the Perfection 636U seems to be kind of broken lately, see
 http://bugs.debian.org/248885, reported 52 days ago (with full
 debug log from the epson backend).

 JB.

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 http://www.jblache.org
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