[sane-devel] xsane page option

2007-02-28 Thread m. allan noah
On 2/27/07, Suffield, David david.suffi...@hp.com wrote:
 Hi,
 I work on the HPLIP project which delivers the libsane-hpaio backend.

 Some time after xsane 0.92 the page option was added. Is there a way to
 constrain this option unless Batch scan is set?

 Multi-page scanning can hang some all-in-ones with ADF unless Batch
 scan is set.

 Based on the scanimage man page, we should be able to control ADF
 operation with the --batch option.

but --batch is a scanimage internal option name, not one that is
passed thru to the backend?

can you describe the order of operations required by the hardware a bit more?

allan


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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Rene Rebe
On Tuesday 27 February 2007 19:38:58 Felix E. Klee wrote:
 At Tue, 27 Feb 2007 18:52:55 +0100,
 Jens Gulden wrote:
  - BUT: it scans right to one edge. Plustek claims to even have
patented this invention...
 
 You must've misunderstood me: I need a scanner that can scan right to
 the edge of the *glass plate*.  In fact, before getting the Epson 3490,
 I thought that every modern scanner can do this.
 
 I do not need a special book scanner.

Avision bookedge A3 scanner. The A4 version unfortunatly is not support
(it's CPU-less and thus requires an 2nd avision, avision-cpuless, backend.
I have the SPECs, but not yet the time to write it ...

But the A3 devices are great :-)

http://www.google.com/search?q=Avision+FB6000E
http://www.google.com/search?q=Avision+FB6080E

Yours,

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Felix E. Klee
At Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:03:00 +0100,
Rene Rebe wrote:
  You must've misunderstood me: I need a scanner that can scan right
  to the edge of the *glass plate*.  In fact, before getting the Epson
  3490, I thought that every modern scanner can do this.
  
  I do not need a special book scanner.
 
 Avision bookedge A3 scanner. 

Thanks for the hint.  However, I've to repeat: I do *not* need a scanner
especially targeted at scanning books.  What I need is a scanner that
can scan to the edge of the *glass plate*.  Maybe that sounds too
trivial and thus leads to misunderstandings on this list.

As far as I know, there are scanners in the sub 100 EUR range, perhaps
even in the sub 50 EUR range, that can do this.  I just don't know which
ones.

If I do not find such a scanner, I may have to build a stencil that I
can put on my current scanner.  Actually, this should not be too hard.
I'm annoyed however, that this step is necessary.  Why didn't Epson make
the visible glass plate simply a bit smaller?

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Rene Rebe
Hi,

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 12:57:16 Felix E. Klee wrote:
 At Wed, 28 Feb 2007 12:03:00 +0100,
 Rene Rebe wrote:
   You must've misunderstood me: I need a scanner that can scan right
   to the edge of the *glass plate*.  In fact, before getting the Epson
   3490, I thought that every modern scanner can do this.
   
   I do not need a special book scanner.
  
  Avision bookedge A3 scanner. 
 
 Thanks for the hint.  However, I've to repeat: I do *not* need a scanner
 especially targeted at scanning books.  What I need is a scanner that
 can scan to the edge of the *glass plate*.  Maybe that sounds too
 trivial and thus leads to misunderstandings on this list.

This Avision scanners are flatbad scanners with the zero edge feauture
specifically to scan book.

 As far as I know, there are scanners in the sub 100 EUR range, perhaps
 even in the sub 50 EUR range, that can do this.  I just don't know which
 ones.

Well, buying the most cheap crap does not necessarily mean supporting
the companies that support Linux and co -- just a thought.

 If I do not find such a scanner, I may have to build a stencil that I
 can put on my current scanner.  Actually, this should not be too hard.
 I'm annoyed however, that this step is necessary.  Why didn't Epson make
 the visible glass plate simply a bit smaller?

Maybe some company has a patent on zero edge scanners?

Yours,

-- 
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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Felix E. Klee
At Wed, 28 Feb 2007 13:35:17 +0100,
Rene Rebe wrote:
 This Avision scanners are flatbad scanners with the zero edge
 feauture specifically to scan book.

That's great, but I don't need that.

  As far as I know, there are scanners in the sub 100 EUR range,
  perhaps even in the sub 50 EUR range, that can do this.  I just
  don't know which ones.
 
 Well, buying the most cheap crap does not necessarily mean
 supporting the companies that support Linux and co -- just a thought.

I don't think that a modern scanner priced around 100 EUR is necessarily
crap.  It all depends on usage scenario.  If the scanner is simple to
use, then I'd use it somewhere around once a week to scan maybe 10 pages
on average.  I'd mostly scan documents that my sheet fed scanner doesn't
accept.

  If I do not find such a scanner, I may have to build a stencil that
  I can put on my current scanner.  Actually, this should not be too
  hard.  I'm annoyed however, that this step is necessary.  Why didn't
  Epson make the visible glass plate simply a bit smaller?
 
 Maybe some company has a patent on zero edge scanners?

I doubt that what I need is patented.  I think you still misunderstand
me.  With the Epson 3490, the problem that I mentioned is not limited to
scanning books.  It affects all kinds of documents.  Already scanning an
A4 sized page is a pain: One has to position it freely in the middle of
the glass plate.  The problem is that the scanner isn't capable to scan
the entire area of the visible glass plate: it cannot scan to the edge
of the plate.  This is weird, but it's the truth - I'm not the first
person to encounter this problem.  If there would be a photo copier that
had this problem, then close to nobody would buy it.  But with scanners
people seem to be less picky, as long as they're good at scanning
photos.

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Rene Rebe
Hi,

On Wednesday 28 February 2007 14:22:34 Felix E. Klee wrote:
   If I do not find such a scanner, I may have to build a stencil that
   I can put on my current scanner.  Actually, this should not be too
   hard.  I'm annoyed however, that this step is necessary.  Why didn't
   Epson make the visible glass plate simply a bit smaller?
  
  Maybe some company has a patent on zero edge scanners?
 
 I doubt that what I need is patented.  I think you still misunderstand
 me.  With the Epson 3490, the problem that I mentioned is not limited to
 scanning books.  It affects all kinds of documents.  Already scanning an
 A4 sized page is a pain: One has to position it freely in the middle of
 the glass plate.  The problem is that the scanner isn't capable to scan
 the entire area of the visible glass plate: it cannot scan to the edge
 of the plate.  This is weird, but it's the truth - I'm not the first
 person to encounter this problem.  If there would be a photo copier that

Ah ok, sorry. I thought you wanted the scan are end device border (like
on this Avision book scanners :-).

As all the non-home Avision (HP et al.) scanner I have here scan the entire
glas(/plastic) area :-)

 had this problem, then close to nobody would buy it.  But with scanners
 people seem to be less picky, as long as they're good at scanning
 photos.

Indeed.

Yours,

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007 12:57 schrieb Felix E. Klee:

 Thanks for the hint.  However, I've to repeat: I do *not* need a scanner
 especially targeted at scanning books.  What I need is a scanner that
 can scan to the edge of the *glass plate*.  Maybe that sounds too
 trivial and thus leads to misunderstandings on this list.

No. You need an additional frame which creates accurate edges. Maybe tape 
markings on the glass plate are sufficient. If not, try 1mm thick plastic 
markings with double-adhesive tape on their back.

Kind regards

Jan
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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread m. allan noah
On 2/28/07, Jan Kandziora j...@gmx.de wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007 12:57 schrieb Felix E. Klee:
 
  Thanks for the hint.  However, I've to repeat: I do *not* need a scanner
  especially targeted at scanning books.  What I need is a scanner that
  can scan to the edge of the *glass plate*.  Maybe that sounds too
  trivial and thus leads to misunderstandings on this list.
 
 No. You need an additional frame which creates accurate edges. Maybe tape
 markings on the glass plate are sufficient. If not, try 1mm thick plastic
 markings with double-adhesive tape on their back.


every flat-bed scanner that i have can scan to the edge of the visible
portion of the glass plate, fujitsu, avision, HP, umax. not sure what
you want us to tell you to do...

allan

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Felix E. Klee
At Wed, 28 Feb 2007 15:20:31 +0100,
Levente Nov?k wrote:
 He wants to tell that you can not scan anything closer than about 5 mm
 to the edge of the glass with an Epson 3490 Photo (which I own also).

In fact, it's not the only Epson scanner with the problem.  IIRC, the
V350 also has the problem.  Yesterday, I called Epson.  They will
provide me with a list of scanners that can scan to the edge.  I'm
really curious.

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Felix E. Klee
At Wed, 28 Feb 2007 14:19:39 +0100,
Jan Kandziora wrote:
 No. You need an additional frame which creates accurate edges. Maybe
 tape markings on the glass plate are sufficient. If not, try 1mm thick
 plastic markings with double-adhesive tape on their back.

I once tried a cardboard frame that I cut out: It wasn't very accurate.
Perhaps, I'll try to get some rigid plastic or metal strips that I can
glue to the glass plate.

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[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Felix E. Klee
At Wed, 28 Feb 2007 09:06:32 -0500,
m. allan noah wrote:
 every flat-bed scanner that i have can scan to the edge of the visible
 portion of the glass plate, fujitsu, avision, HP, umax.

That's interesting.

 not sure what you want us to tell you to do...

What I'd like to know - as I wrote in my original posting - is: Which
flat bed scanner is supported by Sane and scans to the edge?  I'm only
interested in scanners that I can buy new - I'm not interested in used
scanners because I generally don't trust used mechanical devices.  I'm
also not interested in scanners with a very limited depth of field such
as the Canon LIDE.

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[sane-devel] Lexmark X1130 test

2007-02-28 Thread Stéphane VOLTZ
Le lundi 26 f?vrier 2007, Carlos a ?crit?:
 Hi

 I have a Lexmark X1130 AIO scanner-printer and Im glad to see there is a
 backend for this device. Ive tested it and the results are not so bad as
 the opinions in the sane page suggest.

  It needs some work with colors (maybe there is some way of calibrating it
 in Linux) and a couple of minor issues, but the average impression is quite
 good. Ive prepared a page with my tests for your information. You can find
 it at http://butterbrot.googlepages.com/lexmarkscanner

 I hope it will be useful for someone. I intend to improve it with more
 documentation in the future.

 Thanks a lot for your great work!!

Hello,

the current version of the lexmark backend doesn't od calibration and 
has 
fixed size area. I am currently working on an experimental version (which 
allready work for the Dell A920) that brings color calibration. However, to 
tune it for the X1135, I'd need an usbsniff log recorded under windows. There 
are a couple of pointer on how to do it at 
http://stef.dev.free.fr/sane/outils .

What I need would be the log of a simple color preview at 75 dpi. The 
log is 
several MB but compresses well. You can either pu it on your site or send it 
to me.

Regards,
Stef


[sane-devel] Flatbed scanner that can scan to the edge?

2007-02-28 Thread Jan Kandziora
Am Mittwoch, 28. Februar 2007 17:34 schrieb Felix E. Klee:

 I once tried a cardboard frame that I cut out: It wasn't very accurate.
 Perhaps, I'll try to get some rigid plastic or metal strips that I can
 glue to the glass plate.

A plastic or steel ruler may help, too. 

Kind regards

Jan
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