[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Roitzsch
Hi Jeff,

 Looking through the archives I see a number of postings on  
 developing a driver for the Canon Canoscan LiDE 500F. How far did  
 you get?

Unfortunately, I have not even got started, since I have very little  
time and some other projects in need of attention. Currently, I am  
using the scanner under Mac OS X.

But I am still interested in a working sane backend, so maybe we  
should collaborate on this?

Michael



[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-27 Thread Gerald Murray
Quoting Jeff Shrowder shrow...@uniting.com.au:
 I've used SnoopPro to log the traffic over the usb and got this enormous 
 log :-) but where to from here? I can do 'lots of staring at usb logs' - 
 there's plenty to stare at :-) What am I looking for?
 
 Jeff

A comparison of log data with canon LiDE35/50 should show how the frontend
is loaded for image acquisition.  The chip uses remains unknown at this point.
A comparison shouls also show whether the image transport is similar to genesys
GL841.  A small image sould be enough to tell.  
regards,
Gerald




[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-26 Thread Jeff Shrowder
Michael Roitzsch wrote:
 Hi Jeff,
 
 Looking through the archives I see a number of postings on  developing 
 a driver for the Canon Canoscan LiDE 500F. How far did  you get?
 
 
 Unfortunately, I have not even got started, since I have very little  
 time and some other projects in need of attention. Currently, I am  
 using the scanner under Mac OS X.
 
 But I am still interested in a working sane backend, so maybe we  should 
 collaborate on this?
 
 Michael
 

Michael and Pierre,
Thank you for responding.
Yes, collaborating is the only way to go. In my first couple of posts to 
the sane-dev-list - which you may not have seen - I expressed interest 
in working with others on such a project because I'm not a progammer. I 
can't really count a brief engagement with COBOL and an IBM 1401 
main-frame in the 1960's and lots BASIC on several Z80-based machines in 
the 1980's :-)

Anyway, I've had my canoscan LiDE 500F for just a week (the trusty 
Mustek finally croaked). It's plugged into a redundant dual-boot 
win98/RH9 box which is networked to another couple of Linux boxes I use 
every day. That's my present solution to my need for an operational scanner.

I've used SnoopPro to log the traffic over the usb and got this enormous 
log :-) but where to from here? I can do 'lots of staring at usb logs' - 
there's plenty to stare at :-) What am I looking for?

Jeff


[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-25 Thread Pierre Willenbrock
Jeff Shrowder schrieb:
 Michael and Pierre,
 
 Looking through the archives I see a number of postings on developing a
 driver for the Canon Canoscan LiDE 500F. How far did you get?
 

I didn't do any further work, apart from those postings. I don't know if
Michael made any progress.

If you are willing to add code for the Canon Canoscan LiDE 500F, I am
able to help you with some of the driver related aspects. You still need
to figure out the scanner specifics, like how to switch between full ccd
resolution and half(to name something more obscure). This involves hours
of experiments, good guesses, and a lot staring at usb logs.

Regards,
  Pierre



[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-21 Thread Gerald Murray

 So, what do I need to log the data moving over the USB bus?
 
 Jeff

Hi Jeff

Search the mail archive list for usbsnoopy.   The search should yield a site
where that program for use on windows can be obtained, and there should
be examples in the list that have answers on how to use it as well.  The 
most recent emails that I remember were by Stef Voltz in response to 
requests from other searchers.  

usbsnoopy questions are asked fairly frequently, so the answers should be
available as far as using the program is concerned.  The problems encountered
with newer hardware might not be available yet, so do ask if you do not find.

best regards,
Gerald






[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-20 Thread Jeff Shrowder
Gerald Murray wrote:
 Quoting Jeff Shrowder shrow...@uniting.com.au:
 
Looking through the archives I discovered a series of exchanges in 
December about support for the 500F. What is the current situation? I'm 
  not so sure I can help with developing that support (I'm no 
programmer) but I am interested in getting this model supported. Is 
there any other way I can help?
 
  
 
Jeff Shrowder

 
 Hi Jeff,
 
 canon-LiDE 80, canon-LiDE 500F
 
 Source of information:
   http://www.sane-project.org/lists/sane-mfgs.html
 
 backend: genesys-gl841
 
 image acquisition:
   LiDE 80:
 Holtek HT82V36 (16-bit Analog/Digital converter for ccd and cis images)
   LiDE 500F:
 ?
 There is some information on the Holtek chip.  Possibly more documentation
 on the chips would be needed to develop from specifications.
 
 Another method of developing sane support is to work from logs taken from
 a working OS, by inspecting data as it travels over the USB bus.  
 - No such logs have been made available 
 - No developer has declared intent to integrate these scanners into sane.
 
 Beyond the image acquisition the development effort might be minimal, as
 canon's vendor-specific protocol for Lide 35 and 50 are known, and
 the genesys code already has support for CIS images.
 Someone would need to have such a scanner available, and carry the
 development forward.
 
 best regards,
 Gerald

Gerald,

Since I last posted my old Mustek has croaked it and I've actually taken 
the plunge and bought the 500F (can't live/work without a scanner 
grin) and have it plugged into my dual-boot box (Win98/RH9) on my home 
network.

So, what do I need to log the data moving over the USB bus?

Cheers,

Jeff




[sane-devel] Any further with canoscan LiDE 500F?

2006-03-19 Thread Jeff Shrowder
Looking through the archives I discovered a series of exchanges in 
December about support for the 500F. What is the current situation? I'm 
  not so sure I can help with developing that support (I'm no 
programmer) but I am interested in getting this model supported. Is 
there any other way I can help?

I haven't bought one of these scanners yet - but I'd like to when my 
present 5 year old, and much worked, mustek finally croaks - which may 
not be all that far away :-)


Jeff Shrowder