Re: [Soc-coordination] Mentor Summit

2012-07-26 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jul 26, 2012 at 05:05:19PM -0400, Sukhbir Singh wrote:
 Hi,
 
  If you are interested in going, please reply fast to this email and
  depending how much we are, we will find a way to decide who is going.
 
 I am interested in going. But given that there will be other DDs/
 anyone else who can represent Debian better, please consider them over
 me if need be :)

Yeah, this is pretty much my POV as well. I'm close-ish to CA, and I'd
love to go, but if there're other DDs with a strong opinion (or others
have a strong opinion), I don't see the problem in getting wait-listed
(or, well, not going :) )

 
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Re: [Soc-coordination] Last Report - Clang for build services libc++ for Debian

2012-08-22 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Aug 22, 2012 at 06:33:27PM +0200, Sylvestre Ledru wrote:
 Hello Andrej  Alexander,
 
  Hello,
 
  Here is my last report.
 Many thanks for your great work to you two! I am sure we will have an
 important impact thanks to your work.

Seconded with extreme gusto.

Let's change the world.

 I hope you both will stay involved in the Debian community.

Aye!

 
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Re: [Soc-coordination] Gsoc proposal from Charles

2013-03-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 10:08:01PM +0100, Martin Zobel-Helas wrote:
 Hi, 
 
 On Thu Mar 21, 2013 at 14:38:03 +0100, olivier sallou wrote:
 Hi,
 I'd like to know how would this proposal be managed by potential
 student.
 Student will need a cloud access for experiments, and this
 is unfortunately not free.
 Amazon provide a free (mini) instance but storage capacity of this
 small instance may be too limited for such experiments and setup.
 Does it include automatic image generation scripts (from a Debian
 desktop/server and not cloning an image) or just connecting to an
 Amazon instance, add some scripting and save as new image ?
 First solution would be a perfect solution (for me and others), but is
 more complex, expecially with amazon.
 If additional co-mentors are required for the project, I can help (if
 any student proposal is valid...).
 
 A Debian GSoC project proposal, that needs 'non-free' and 'non free'
 services to work are a very bad idea in my opinion. 
 
 Debian Social contract says at §4:
 'Our priorities are our users and free software'

Without my GSoC hat on:

Please also note section 5: Works that do not meet our free software
  standards

 
 I hearby ask the Debian GSoC Coordination team to reject project
 applications, that need Amazon's (or any other commercial or non-free)
 cloud service to function properly.

Some other services have a compatable API:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/OpenStack#Amazon_Web_Services_compatibility

 
 Cheers,
 Martin

While I don't disagree non-free services aren't great, or even something
we should spend student-time on, I won't make such a decision [yet].

I mean, we do already use AWS time to do rebuilds for FTBFS testing. I'd
argue that's a good use of time, and results in a better Debian.

To your request:

I'll talk with the other SoC admins and see what the collective decision
is.

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[Soc-coordination] Debian has been accepted into GSoC 2013

2013-04-09 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Aloha, fellow developers,


We've been accepted[1] into GSoC[2][3][4] again this year. Huzzah!

I'd like to thank the Google SoC team -- I know I speak for all of us
when I say that we're truely humbled to have been selected.


So, now that it's real, please go and look over the wiki[5] and fill
out any details, or offer to co-mentor any of the projects.

[5]: http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2013/Projects

No, really. Go now. We'll wait.

Back? OK. Great.

So, please pass the word on, we're currently looking for more mentors to
help ensure students have the best mentorship they could have, as well
as bright students 18+, enroled in a post-secondary school.


Let's make this a great summer!


Cheers,
  Paul (For the GSoC SWAT team)


[1]: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/org/google/gsoc2013/debian
[2]: http://www.google-melange.com/gsoc/homepage/google/gsoc2013
[3]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/02/msg7.html
[4]: http://lists.debian.org/debian-devel-announce/2013/03/msg4.html
[5]: http://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2013/Projects

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Re: [Soc-coordination] Subject: [GSoC students] Weekly status reports wanted

2013-06-21 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Jun 06, 2013 at 04:24:20PM -0300, David Bremner wrote:
 
 Hi everyone,
 
 This year we are going to ask each Debian GSoC student to keep the
 community up to date with weekly reports.  In addition to any blogging
 or other communications efforts you might make, please send a brief
 report every Friday to the soc-coordination@lists.debian mailing list.
 Someone from the coordination team will respond to this report each
 week.  Your report should not be long (one page is fine). It should be
 plain text, and you are welcome to write informally (e.g. point form is
 fine). Remember the main goal is to keep everyone up to date on your
 progress.
 
 As a reminder, the dates for SoC run from June 17 to September 23. Your
 first report on June 21 can be more of a brief introduction.
 
 David Bremner
 
 for the Debian GSoC team
 Nicolas Dandrimont, Paul Tagliamonte,  David Bremner, Sukhbir Singh
 
 P.S. Mentors, please confirm with your students that they are subscribed
 to this list when you are next talking to them.
 

As a reminder, today is Friday, please don't forget your reports!

Cheers,
  Paul

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[Soc-coordination] Student Blogs

2013-06-23 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Hello, Debianite-GSoC'ers,


If any of y'all have blogs, I'd love a link to them!


Cheers,
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Re: [Soc-coordination] [debmetrics] Week 1

2013-06-24 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Jun 21, 2013 at 09:03:51PM +0500, Борис Бобров wrote:
 My name is Boris Bobrov and I will be coding a Debian metrics portal, a 
 central place for various metrics, stats etc.

Hi, Boris! Happy to have you with us!

 Draft idea of the portal (which name will be debmetrics during the 
 development) is described on [0]. Gitweb repository of the project is 
 available on [1].
 
 [0] https://wiki.debian.org/SummerOfCode2013/StudentApplications/BorisBobrov
 [1] http://git.upsilon.cc/?p=debmetrics.git;a=summary

Great, thanks for the links!

 Not much was done during community bonding period because I still had 
 lections 
 in my university. A draft version of DESIGN doc was written, where were 
 described:
  - Types of the metrics (local/remote, simple/general)
  - A format for interaction between debmetrics and user scripts
  - A format of how the user can provide the script to the portal
 
 Also, a set of Debian statistics was investigated in order to define 
 usescases 
 of simple metrics. Some of the scripts were adapted for use in debmetrics.
 
 Next week will be spent to: 
 1. Catch up (because of some failed attemps to adapt the scripts a lot of 
 time 
 was lost) and finish usecases investingation. More scripts will be adapted 
 for 
 use by debmetrics.
 2. Design the database scheme to store the data
 3. A script for updating the graphs that will run periodically.

I see you have the following goals for this Sunday:

 o Create the database scheme
 o Build a simple interface for adding metrics
 o Add some simple scripts (from /Statistics) for local data generation and
   data output
 o Simple printing of the collected data

I see you mention some of this, can we expect you to catch up to this
schedule or should it be re-adjusted to properly reflect the timeline?


Thanks so much! Welcome to Debian GSoC!

Cheers,
  Paul


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Re: [Soc-coordination] GSoC Mentors: GSoC Mentor Summit 2013

2013-07-03 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Wed, Jul 3, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote:
 On 03/07/13 17:55, Luke Faraone wrote:
 Hi Daniel et al.,

 Some clarifications on the process are below; I've dealt with this
 process in previous years and due to other reasons am familiar with
 Google's purchasing process.

 On 3 July 2013 04:54, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote:
 I've just started looking over the details and made a hotel reservation.
 It is important that you follow the reservation process outlined in
 Carol's mail [GSoC Mentors Announce] GSoC 2013: Mentor Summit Travel
 and Details using the link provided there; this should not have
 required any payment information from you and will be billed to Google
 directly.

 I have used Carol's link for registering - it prompted for my card
 details but said nothing would be charged to me.

That's for incidentals. If someone decides to throw a rock  roll
party and throw a few lamps through the wall, they need a card on file
(or eat all the peanuts in the mini-fridge)



 Carol's email suggests that flights should be paid after Google approves
 a PO - but I think that would be difficult in practice because
 international flight prices change a lot and most airlines don't make
 reservations without immediate payment any more.  Can one of the admins
 confirm that we can go ahead and book flights as soon as we find a good
 deal and without waiting for the Google PO approval process?
 Generally, SPI gets approval for a PO, then you book the flights, then
 SPI files an invoice against the PO for the actual price, and once
 that is received you are mailed a check. However the policy is
 different this year; SPI will be reimbursing you immediately after the
 summit while it waits on reimbursement from Google.

 SPI's policy for reimbursement was outlined in Josh's mail [GSoC
 Mentors] Organizations affiliated with SPI, please read; in summary,
 email SPI as soon as possible after the summit with your receipts.

 This will require you paying for the flights yourself, then getting a
 reimbursement from SPI. If this presents a hardship, SPI has policies
 to handle that.

 I don't mind waiting a reasonable time for SPI to process the
 re-imbursement, the only concern I had is about the flight prices
 changing between the time the quote is submitted and the time that
 approval comes back.

 Reading through the web pages, however, some of the information gives me
 the impression that Google will just give SPI a blanket approval for
 $2,200 and the SPI invoices for the actual amount spent - can anybody
 confirm if this type of approval has been sought or granted already?  If
 so, I'll just go ahead and book the flights in the next few days.


I'm out of the loop, so I can no confirm this yet.

 Thanks for the feedback about this

 Regards,

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Re: [Soc-coordination] Weekly report 6 - Debian android app

2013-08-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Fri, Jul 26, 2013 at 4:25 PM, Pavlos onexema...@gmail.com wrote:
 Hello,

 This week i added code to seamlessly cache each network request from the
 api. It can be set to cache info for a certain amount of time, to always
 retrieve the cached info (in case there is no connectivity at all) or to
 deactivate it completely if you always want 'fresh' info. I didn't have time
 to add any udd methods because I lost two days for a short trip close by but
 i will make up for it this week.

 This week i'll add the udd methods and start adding some widgets to the ui.
 Mainly i want to add the subscription functionality to pts/bts searches so
 that the app remembers favourite pckgs/bugs and so that i can build
 notifications and auto-updates of info based on that in the upcoming weeks.


Awesome. Is there an APK I can test out? :)

Is hc still in contact with you daily?

Cheers,
  T


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[Soc-coordination] All student and mentor reports are in

2013-08-02 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
Howdy, SoC'ers,

All the reports are now in, and exactly on time.

Thanks so much, everyone,
  Paul

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Re: [Soc-coordination] Weekly report 8 - OpenRC init system in Debian

2013-08-15 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Thu, Aug 15, 2013 at 08:31:51PM +0800, Bill Wang wrote:
 Hi David,
 
  Bill Wang freecn...@gmail.com writes:
 
 
  If we successfully
  replaced the sysv-rc and make OpenRC as the default init system, LSB
  will become an era, is not?
  Can you explain a bit what you mean by become an era?
 We know that sysvinit will eventually be eliminated, then LSB become an era.

I think the expression Bill is using is It will be the end of an era :)

Cheers,
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Re: [Soc-coordination] 2014 announcement from Google

2013-10-08 Thread Paul Tagliamonte
On Tue, Oct 08, 2013 at 11:13:19PM +0200, Daniel Pocock wrote:
 Google's announcement about 2014 is very interesting, it appears they
 are starting much earlier than this year.

 The calendar suggests they will only confirm organisations around
 March/April though

Aye. We can only apply in Feb+

 In my experience, we had the most intense interest from students after
 Debian was confirmed as an organisation.  It could be one of two things:
 
 a) the students are discovering Debian when they see us in a list on
 Google's web site
 
 b) the students are not certain about investing time/effort with
 organisations before the organisations have some official involvement

Aye.

 What do other people think?

I think it's good!

 Is the Google announcement sufficient for
 Debian to start engaging with potential mentors and students and
 encouraging them to make very basic steps to research project areas?

Yeah, I think talking with *mentors* should be fine. We musn't engage
with students with the impression we are a GSoC 14 org only until (and
if) we get accepted.

Cheers,
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