Re: pidgin disconnects, finch stable

2013-09-04 Thread thufir
On Tue, 03 Sep 2013 19:06:42 -0400, Ethan Blanton wrote:

 thufir spake unto us the following wisdom:
 I've switched over to finch because it stays connected.  I'm on wifi,
 so sometimes there be connection problems.  In a totally anecdotal way,
 it seems as though pidgin is unstable in this regard.
 I've not noticed a problem with finch at all.  Why would that be?
 
 Try running pidgin as pidgin -f and see if the problem goes away.  It
 may be getting unfortunate notifications from Network Manager that finch
 does not ask for.
 
 Ethan


Ok, based on one hour of using pidgin, I think that does the trick.  I'm 
on Ubuntu 12.04, it's using the unity interface.  any pointers on how to 
make that setting permanent, so the icon will do that?  If not, that's ok. 
just wanted to say that this *seems* to be a solution, so far :)


-Thufir

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Pidgin services blocking

2013-09-04 Thread Prateep.HR
Dear support
Please help us in blocking outer services in Pidgin . We want to allow only 
XMPP services for the Client Users how to do this .
 
 
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Re: pidgin disconnects, finch stable

2013-09-04 Thread Tres Finocchiaro

 any pointers on how to make that setting permanent, so the icon will do
 that?


Please try this (Tested in Ubuntu 12.10)

sudo gedit '/usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop'


Change the line:

 Exec=pidgin

to:

 Exec=pidgin -f


If you've created any shortcuts elsewhere, you will want to make this same
change on those files.  They are usually .desktop file extensions.

Or, alternately, you can create a file in /usr/sbin called pidgin.  Use
this method with extreme care:

sudo gedit /usr/sbin/pidgin


Paste this:

#!/bin/sh
 echo Starting pidgin -f...
 /usr/bin/pidgin -f $@ 
 exit 0


Make the file executable:

 sudo chmod +x /usr/sbin/pidgin


Now all calls to pidgin *should* use your newly modified version.  Test
this by launching it from the command line, and you should receive a
message Starting pidgin -f.  Modify to your needs.

-Tres


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Too long message

2013-09-04 Thread Julius Kolbe

Hi, everybody
It's really bad that pidgin does the following:
When a message which is too long gets send, it says that it was too long 
to send it, but the message is lost.


Is the message somewhere and I couldn't find it?
If not, this would be nice to get fixed.

Greetings
Julius

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Re: Too long message

2013-09-04 Thread Shlomi Fish
Hi Julius,

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On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:05:39 +0200
Julius Kolbe juliusko...@yahoo.de wrote:

 Hi, everybody
 It's really bad that pidgin does the following:
 When a message which is too long gets send, it says that it was too long 
 to send it, but the message is lost.
 
 Is the message somewhere and I couldn't find it?

Yes, you should be able to recall it in the chat window by pressing Ctrl+Up. In
general, Ctrl+Up / Ctrl+Down travel through the history.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish

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Re: Too long message

2013-09-04 Thread Julius Kolbe

Thanks everybody for the fast response :)


On 04.09.2013 16:41, Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi Julius,

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On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 16:05:39 +0200
Julius Kolbe juliusko...@yahoo.de wrote:


Hi, everybody
It's really bad that pidgin does the following:
When a message which is too long gets send, it says that it was too long
to send it, but the message is lost.

Is the message somewhere and I couldn't find it?


Yes, you should be able to recall it in the chat window by pressing Ctrl+Up. In
general, Ctrl+Up / Ctrl+Down travel through the history.

Regards,

Shlomi Fish



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Re: Too long message

2013-09-04 Thread Daniel Atallah
On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:05 AM, Julius Kolbe juliusko...@yahoo.de wrote:

 Hi, everybody
 It's really bad that pidgin does the following:
 When a message which is too long gets send, it says that it was too long
 to send it, but the message is lost.

 Is the message somewhere and I couldn't find it?


The Ctrl+Up key combination will cycle through your message history for a
window.

-D
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Re: cannot remove irc channel of offline account?

2013-09-04 Thread Dennis Knorr

Am 30.08.2013 21:07, schrieb Dave Warren:


This is a bit of a cheat, but just change the server name or port number
to something invalid temporarily, then enable the account. Once the
account is trying to connect (but failing, to avoid getting you banned)
you should be able to remove the channel.


that did not work unfortunately.

Well, i did edit the ~/.purple/blist.xml and removed the sections of 5 
channels.
Now i patched the irc_chat_join function in 
libpurple/protocols/irc/irc.c that it waits one second before joining a 
new channel. but because of timing conditions i'm not quite sure, if 
that helps.


And that's quite a hack, because i do not know the workings in the back 
(thread stuff?, just serial? plugin-pre/post-functions?) so i will open 
a bug in the pidgin ticketsystem.


Sadly in the protocol plugin section i didn't find any hint about a 
mass join method which could be used for stuff like that, i think 
freenode will not the only problem (and you would have to parse 
login/chanserv/nickserv information how much channel you are allowed to 
join entirely. well, let's see :)


yours


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Re: web client

2013-09-04 Thread thufir
On Sun, 01 Sep 2013 09:36:44 +0100, David Woolley wrote:

 It would be interesting if there were a web client to login for Pidgin.
 
 You can't login to Pidgin.  It is a conduit for logging into other
 services.


Ok, I see.



thanks,

Thufir

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Re: pidgin disconnects, finch stable

2013-09-04 Thread thufir
On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:59:46 -0400, Tres Finocchiaro wrote:


 sudo gedit '/usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop'


I'll try this for a bit and get back to the list.  Based on one days 
usage, though, I think that's the fix.


thanks,

Thufir

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Pidgin now working

2013-09-04 Thread Shayne Libby
Hello - as of yesterday, my pidgin isn't working. I've tried resetting the 
password, which has not worked. Wondering what else to try.


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-Original Message-
From: thufir [mailto:hawat.thu...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 12:58 PM
To: support@pidgin.im
Subject: Re: pidgin disconnects, finch stable

On Wed, 04 Sep 2013 09:59:46 -0400, Tres Finocchiaro wrote:


 sudo gedit '/usr/share/applications/pidgin.desktop'


I'll try this for a bit and get back to the list.  Based on one days usage, 
though, I think that's the fix.


thanks,

Thufir

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Re: Pidgin now working

2013-09-04 Thread David Woolley

On 04/09/13 21:00, Shayne Libby wrote:

Hello - as of yesterday, my pidgin isn't working. I've tried resetting the 
password, which has not worked. Wondering what else to try.


You could try contacting Oracle's internal IT support, who presumably 
operate the service that isn't working.  People on the public mailing 
list have no idea how Oracle's internal arrangements work, but are 
getting a bad impression of Oracle by the number of questions 
misdirected to this list.


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RE: Pidgin now working

2013-09-04 Thread Shayne Libby
Well - I appreciate the guidance, but I must say that it would be pretty 
short-sighted for anyone to get an unfavorable impression of a company the size 
and scope of Oracle, with a proven track record of success, due to some IM 
challenges. My two cents.


Shayne

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-Original Message-
From: David Woolley [mailto:for...@david-woolley.me.uk] 
Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2013 1:36 PM
To: Shayne Libby
Cc: support@pidgin.im
Subject: Re: Pidgin now working

On 04/09/13 21:00, Shayne Libby wrote:
 Hello - as of yesterday, my pidgin isn't working. I've tried resetting the 
 password, which has not worked. Wondering what else to try.

You could try contacting Oracle's internal IT support, who presumably operate 
the service that isn't working.  People on the public mailing list have no idea 
how Oracle's internal arrangements work, but are getting a bad impression of 
Oracle by the number of questions misdirected to this list.

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Re: Pidgin services blocking

2013-09-04 Thread David Woolley

On 04/09/13 07:47, Prateep.HR wrote:

Dear support


There isn't a support organisation; this is just a public mailing list 
to which users and some of the developers are subscribed.




Please help us in blocking outer services in Pidgin . We want to allow
only XMPP services for the Client Users how to do this .


XMPP is actually a protocol not a service.  As it used by both 
Facebook's and Google's IM services, if your concern is time-wasting, 
removing support for everything except XMPP will still leave at least 
two services that many businesses would consider time wasters.


Also, as is always stated when this question is asked, it is fairly easy 
for end users to locally install the bits you take away to block other 
protocols.


Basically, you simply remove the plugins for the protocols you don't 
want used.  However, the recommended way of doing it is to block access 
to unwanted services in your firewall, not on the end user machines.


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Re: Pidgin now working

2013-09-04 Thread Ethan Blanton
Shayne Libby spake unto us the following wisdom:
 Well - I appreciate the guidance, but I must say that it would be
 pretty short-sighted for anyone to get an unfavorable impression of a
 company the size and scope of Oracle, with a proven track record of
 success, due to some IM challenges. My two cents.

No.  The problem is that this has been going on for *years*, we've
contacted Oracle via several channels, and it's not getting better.
It's very annoying and shows that Oracle is more than happy to reap
the benefits of open source software and cost us time and effort
without giving anything back.  It looks really bad.

It's very short-sighted of you to think you understand the situation
after one mailing list post.

I'll leave out any comments about success etc.

Ethan

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Re: Pidgin now working

2013-09-04 Thread Brian Morrison
On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:21:10 -0400
Ethan Blanton e...@pidgin.im wrote:

 It's very short-sighted of you to think you understand the situation
 after one mailing list post.

I know lots of people who either administer, code for, or use Oracle
products. I don't know one single person who likes these products. If
they were able to change to another vendor, they would.

From what I hear, the attitude that came across from the PP is exactly
consistent with Oracle's corporate attitude.

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Re: Pidgin now working

2013-09-04 Thread Ethan Blanton
Brian Morrison spake unto us the following wisdom:
 On Wed, 4 Sep 2013 17:21:10 -0400
 Ethan Blanton e...@pidgin.im wrote:
 
  It's very short-sighted of you to think you understand the situation
  after one mailing list post.
 
 I know lots of people who either administer, code for, or use Oracle
 products. I don't know one single person who likes these products. If
 they were able to change to another vendor, they would.

This is a different issue, and not a position we need to take on the
Pidgin support list.  The technical support problem is directly
relevant to the Pidgin project.

Ethan

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