Re: incompatible with screenReader

2017-10-28 Thread Konstantin Kharlamov 

On 28.10.2017 22:03, Shlomi Fish wrote:

Hi Oleg,

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:01:29 +0700
Олег  wrote:


Hello. the latest version of the program are incompatible with
ScreenReaders, for example "NonVisual Desktop Acces". it makes the
program inaccessible for blind users. whether taken to fix the problem?



I was told that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B which pidgin uses is
not yet accessible to visually impaired users on Windows (while being ok on
Linux). I list some other alternatives to pidgin, some of which are open source
here and you may fare better with one of them:
http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/networking-clients/ .


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You seems to be right about gtk under Windows, I found this interesting 
record on gtk development ML 
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2012-April/msg00023.html


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Re: incompatible with screenReader

2017-10-28 Thread Shlomi Fish 
Hi Oleg,

On Sun, 29 Oct 2017 00:01:29 +0700
Олег  wrote:

> Hello. the latest version of the program are incompatible with 
> ScreenReaders, for example "NonVisual Desktop Acces". it makes the 
> program inaccessible for blind users. whether taken to fix the problem?
> 

I was told that https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B which pidgin uses is
not yet accessible to visually impaired users on Windows (while being ok on
Linux). I list some other alternatives to pidgin, some of which are open source
here and you may fare better with one of them:
http://www.shlomifish.org/open-source/resources/networking-clients/ .

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Re: incompatible with screenReader

2017-10-28 Thread Konstantin Kharlamov 

On 28.10.2017 20:01, Олег wrote:
Hello. the latest version of the program are incompatible with 
ScreenReaders, for example "NonVisual Desktop Acces". it makes the 
program inaccessible for blind users. whether taken to fix the problem?


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I'm just a random user, but from a small research, it seems, to enable 
accessibility you have to set GTK_MODULES="gail:atk-bridge" environment 
variable.


In a bit more details, I found this article 
https://developer.gnome.org/accessibility-devel-guide/stable/gad-how-it-works.html.en 
it says


> "Pure GTK+ applications", e.g. those that use gtk+ but do not link to
> libgnome, rely on the value of the GTK_MODULES environment variable,
> which must be set to "gail:atk-bridge" in order to enable assistive
> technology support.

I have tested with Orca screen-reader, and indeed it starts working for 
running it like `GTK_MODULES="gail:atk-bridge" pidgin`. I don't know 
though what's the overhead of this, and why it is not loaded by default. 
You might want to report a bug.


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incompatible with screenReader

2017-10-28 Thread Олег 
Hello. the latest version of the program are incompatible with 
ScreenReaders, for example "NonVisual Desktop Acces". it makes the 
program inaccessible for blind users. whether taken to fix the problem?


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