[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
Not sure what the heck you all are recently taking about. Most linux users of a ntfs partition are using to store files for use on any Os or store files without any permission nonsense. Those that actually place .exe files & want to then execute them from an Ubuntu session would likely be using something like wine. In that case the .exe does not need to be "executable" to be run. The prior settings for ntfs defaults was best for the vast majority of users, period. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
> why it defaults to execute on when the in kernel driver does not. Well, most users do not define the mapping of their user ids to Windows ids, so the permissions cannot be stored to the device, and the permissions have to be the same for all files and all users. If the default was no-execute, they could not execute any file, even by tweaking the umask. Ntfs-3g only uses metadata defined for Windows, and does not store any extra metadata which would be useful for Posix usage. Users who need standard Linux per file and per user ownership and permissions may define their user mapping. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
Udisks specifying a default mask was removed intentionally, leaving the default to the NTFS driver. ntfs-3g defaults to all executable. People often do have executable files on their NTFS drives and want to be able to execute them. This has gone back and forth a few times over the years and without the execute bit, less experienced users are unable to make things work and don't understand why. With the bit, more experienced users are... well, let's just say offended. I think we're better off where we are, but maybe the ntfs-3g devs can chime in on why it defaults to execute on when the in kernel driver does not. My guess is that it is intentional but we'll see. ** Changed in: udisks2 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Invalid ** Also affects: ntfs-3g (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntfs-3g/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
Could somebody report that issue upstream on https://github.com /storaged-project/udisks/issues ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
** Tags removed: zesty ** Tags added: bionic ** Tags removed: bb-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
Thank you very much for your offer, but I have messed up my system trying to fix that and at this point I don't want to complicate matters further (17.10 is quite buggy for me). Would it be possible to submit your patch for official inclusion? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
@ Matt -
here for my personal builds (16.04/18.04) i've altered source in this manner &
it does what's best for me -
-static const gchar *ntfs_defaults[] = { "uid=", "gid=", NULL };
+static const gchar *ntfs_defaults[] = { "uid=", "gid=", "fmask=0111", NULL };
If you'd like to try such builds use launchpad email & i'll point to pa's where
they are.
(- those particular ppa's are not for general use but one could dl & use any
particular package source.
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[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
In ubuntu 16.10/17.04/17.10, handling of ntfs drives has changed compared to 14.04.5. Now, all files on an ntfs drive are marked as executable. This is bad for several reasons: - it just does not make any sense, data files are not executable, windows executables are usually not executable on linux - if there is a linux executable on the ntfs drive, security procedure on ext would be having to explicitly set the execute bit, why should it be "less" secure if the file resides on a different drive. - links (on ext, e.g. Desktop) to files residing on the ntfs drives are also marked executable. Error message: "The link ... is broken. Move it to Trash? This link cannot be used because its target ... doesn't exist." I first have to remove the execute bit from each and every link (which reapears instantly), only then they will be usable. All those links are invalid again after every reboot. Interestingly, if I remove the execute bit from a link AND open it using OpenWith... (not the standard application to open it) then ALL links to ntfs files become usable all of a sudden. - if I download a file to an ntfs drive and then try to open it using firefox download menu, I get a warning "Open executable file? ... is an executable file. Executable files can contain viruses or other malicious code that could harm your computer. Are you sure you want to execute ... ?" . This gives the false impression of a security risk! Please consider fixing this, if necessary by correcting the patch from https://bugs.launchpad.net/gvfs/+bug/453605 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
Please understand that this is severely affecting basic ubuntu use with ntfs drives for basic users, while bug #453605 that is said to be the reason of the misbehaviour has merely given more options to advanced users and was not intended to mess up file handling in the way it presumably did. If it's goal "easy way to configure the default umask for VFAT/NTFS" has been reached, it should also be easy to set sane defaults for users that can't (nor should be required to) do it for themselves. ** Changed in: udisks2 (Ubuntu) Status: Invalid => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
If the intention of the changes was to make all files executable then that was a poor decision (it does not appear that was the focus of the whatsoever... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
The change was intentional. See bug #453605. ** Changed in: udisks2 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: udisks2 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1728467] Re: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable
** Tags removed: bionic ** Tags added: bb-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1728467 Title: All files on ntfs partitions are marked executable To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/udisks2/+bug/1728467/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
