[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2024-03-09 Thread Joshua Richards
This is still a thing.  As mentioned here 
https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901931#58 you just need to 
remove timidity from the audio group -- go to your /etc/group file and find the 
line 
audio:
and remove timidity.  Save & restart.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2021-02-25 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: timidity (Debian)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-10-21 Thread J.G.
sudo setfacl -m u:user:rw /dev/snd/*

solved the problem as solution found on https://www.toolbox.com/tech
/operating-systems/question/no-sound-at-all-in-lubuntu-1404-103114/ and
somewhere on Ask ubuntu

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-09-22 Thread Ariel Faigon
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Seems cleaner to share the audio group between the two daemon processes
rather than trying to merge the two separate uids.

/etc/group already seems to do this (on 18.04):

$ grep audio /etc/group
audio:x:29:pulse,timidity

Given that the devices under /dev/snd/ are all read-write by group
audio.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-09-22 Thread h1bymask
TL;DR: It is enough to update the config of the timidity daemon instead
of purging the timidity-daemon package in order to make pulseaudio work
together with timidity daemon.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-09-19 Thread h1bymask
Managed to make TiMidity++ work together with PulseAudio just fine on
Focal 20.04.1. The idea is just to start both pulseaudio and timidity
under the same user. One-liner for the current desktop user:

sudo sed -E "s,^(SERVER_NAME)=(.*)$,\1=$(id --user --name $USER) #\2,"
-E  "s,^(SERVER_GROUP)=(.*)$,\1=$(id --group --name $USER) #\2," -i
/etc/default/timidity && sudo sed -E "s,^(\s*chown) timidity
(/var/run/timidity)$,\1 "$SERVER_USER" \2," -i /etc/init.d/timidity &&
sudo systemctl daemon-reload && sudo systemctl stop timidity && sudo
killall timidity; sudo systemctl start timidity && ps -o
pid=,state=,command= -C timidity; systemctl status timidity; sudo
systemctl restart pulseaudio; pacmd list-cards

One can replace $USER with any user name given PulseAudio starts under
the same user as well, the user is a member of the respective groups,
and it has sufficient permissions for both daemons.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-08-03 Thread Stefan Bader
On 20.04 at least it seems sufficient to only purge timidity-daemon and
still timidity could be used to play midi files.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-06-02 Thread Ⅿⅰⅽhaeⅼ Ⅼutỵnskⅰ
Hit this issue when upgrading from Kubuntu 18.04 to 20.04.

Solution was to "sudo apt purge timidity timidity-daemon" and the audio
devices immediately were recognized by the system, didn't need to
reboot.

This happened on a bog-standard 2015 era Intel-based laptop, nothing
exotic.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-03-09 Thread Tom Chiverton
Started happening to me on upgrade from 18.04 LTS to 19.10.

KDE shows only "dummy" device, until

# sudo apt remove timidity-daemon
# pulseaudio -k && sudo alsa force-reload

and suddenly audio is back. I still have timidity itself installed

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-03-04 Thread JPT
In case this helps anybody: 
I solved the MIDI issue by installing fluidsynth instead of timidity according 
to this guide:
https://blog.geierb.de/debian-fluidsynth-als-systemd-service/

What's missing though is the connection of fluidsynth server to pulsaudio 
DISPLAY.
you have to add DISPLAY=:0 to etc/default/fluidsynth

this was done on Kubuntu LTS 18.4

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2020-03-03 Thread Alex Kavanagh
I upgraded from 18.04 to focal and had the same problem.  Purging
timidity got audio back for me as well.

** Tags added: champagne focal

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-22 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: timidity (Debian)
   Status: Fix Released => New

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Alex Garel
I have unarchived / reopened and commented debian bug.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Adrian Mariano
I removed timidity (without even purging) and my sound satarted working
normally, even though my audio group still contains two users: pulse and
timidity.  This group is supposed to be empty?

I reinstalled timidity and timidity-daemon and the problem returned.  I
removed timidity from the audio group and rebooted and the problem was
again fixed.   The timidity program works.  (I don't know what the
daemon does.)

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Walter Garcia-Fontes
I confirm that timidity works after removing the timidity user. So
instead of removing timidity all together, another workaround for this
bug is to remove the timidity user and make sure the audio group is
empty.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Lastique
Sending email to 901...@bugs.debian.org bounces because the bug is
archived and cannot be modified.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Lastique
I have tested on Kubuntu 19.04:

1. After installing timidity-daemon, the timidity user is automatically created 
and added to the audio group. After reboot, the primary audio output device is 
inaccessible in PulseAudio.
2. After removing timidity user from audio group and rebooting, PulseAudio is 
able to use all audio output devices, as expected. I don't know how to test 
whether timidity works.
3. Purging timidity-daemon and timidity packages does *not* remove the timidity 
user. So, if the packages were installed before, after purging the user stays 
in the system and in the audio group. You have to manually remove the user 
(either completely or just from the audio group) using deluser. I think, that 
the user stays in the system may be a bug on its own.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Lastique
A user in that bug already verified that it works. What I'm pointing out
is that the user/group fix is not implemented in the Debian or Ubuntu
package, and as long as that bug is closed it's not likely become
implemented.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Daniel van Vugt
Try the user/group fix mentioned there first:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901931

If that works then we know what kind of fix to propose to Ubuntu or
Debian.

If that doesn't work then please email 901...@bugs.debian.org pointing
out it is not fixed and to reopen the bug.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-21 Thread Lastique
Can the Debian bug be reopened? Otherwise, I'm afraid, we'll never see
it fixed.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-20 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I think that "Fix Released" status is misleading. Even the Debian bug
mentions the problem is in 2.14.0-8 and that's the latest version in
Ubuntu and Debian.

It looks like the Debian bug was closed prematurely without a fix being
released. I was going to unlink it here but maybe not... Let's just be
aware there was no "Fix Released".

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-20 Thread Daniel van Vugt
I think that "Fix Released" status is misleading. It's showing as fixed
in the same version where we still have the bug.

I'm going to remove that bug link since its of limited relevance here.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-20 Thread Alex Garel
It does not seem to have landed in ubuntu yet :
https://changelogs.ubuntu.com/changelogs/pool/universe/t/timidity/timidity_2.14.0-8/changelog

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-06-20 Thread Adrian Mariano
Does "fix release" mean this bug has been fixed?

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-17 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Changed in: timidity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: timidity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => Triaged

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-17 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: timidity (Debian)
   Status: Unknown => Fix Released

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-17 Thread Lastique
>From the discussion in bug 210472 and in the Debian bug, it looks more
like a configuration or intergration issue in timidity packages rather
than a genuine upstream bug.

Also, forums and mailing lists are a way to report bugs, too. Even
though not as convenient as bug trackers.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-17 Thread Daniel van Vugt
OK, maybe just not with many releases or much active development. The
latest version was released August 2018 and the latest commit was
October 2018:

  https://sourceforge.net/p/timidity/git/ci/master/tree/

I was also thrown by the latest news item on the main project page being
dated 2004 :)

  http://timidity.sourceforge.net/

But that may not mean anything... A mature project like Timidity might
not _need_ any regular changes or releases.

My main concern with respect to this bug is that I can't find any way to
report bugs upstream, other than these:

  https://sourceforge.net/projects/timidity/support

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-17 Thread Walter Garcia-Fontes
Daniel, why do you say it is unmaintained? I see an active Debian
maintainer:

https://tracker.debian.org/pkg/timidity

and in Sourceforge there is a new upstream version from October 2018.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-17 Thread Walter Garcia-Fontes
I do use it, to play midi files and to convert them to other formats.
But if it is an abandoned project, I will have to look for alternatives.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-16 Thread Daniel van Vugt
It doesn't appear Timidity is being maintained upstream anymore. If you
can, please just uninstall it.

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-16 Thread Daniel van Vugt
** Also affects: timidity (Debian) via
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901931
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-04-16 Thread Walter Garcia-Fontes
I still have this problem in Ubuntu 19.04 develpment version. Here is a
Debian bug about this:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901931

** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #901931
   https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=901931

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[Bug 1793640] Re: Pulseaudio fails to detect sound card, while timidity is installed

2019-03-30 Thread Dennis Shimer
Same thing on a Lenovo L520 with Intel chipset,  attaching some info
just in case it helps.


** Attachment added: "SoundProblemInfo.txt"
   
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/timidity/+bug/1793640/+attachment/5250999/+files/SoundProblemInfo.txt

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