[Bug 2061711] Re: lubuntu noble - full (inc. 3rd party) install is kinda slow

2024-04-16 Thread Simon Quigley
This bug is certainly worth noting, but I do not believe anything can
really be done about it.

The problem comes down to, how do we get the software the user is
willing to install? We could put it in a layered or separately-mounted
squashfs, but that is unfair to users who just want a normal install,
especially if we want to be able to extend these options next cycle.
Also, if no network access is available at all, these options are
completely hidden anyway.

** Changed in: calamares (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Wishlist

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[Bug 2061711] Re: lubuntu noble - full (inc. 3rd party) install is kinda slow

2024-04-15 Thread Chris Guiver
Of no importance.. but the 10 mins nothing will likely be

2024-04-16 - 12:32:43 [6]: .. Running ("/bin/sh", "-c", "snap-seed-glue 
--seed /tmp/calamares-root-hazyaxmi/var/lib/snapd/seed krita") 
2024-04-16 - 12:45:09 [6]: .. Running ("/bin/sh", "-c", "snap-seed-glue 
--seed /tmp/calamares-root-hazyaxmi/var/lib/snapd/seed thunderbird") 

after krita I noticed (& mentioned)  a kf5 snap.. but that detail would
have come from my viewing `iotop` and the `snap download` command that
showed there.

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[Bug 2061711] Re: lubuntu noble - full (inc. 3rd party) install is kinda slow

2024-04-15 Thread Erich Eickmeyer
Hey Chris,

If this isn't something that can be fixed with code or with a package
update, and while I don't feel like it is something that *can't* be
fixed, I think the status needs to be "Opinion" because it's certainly
worthy of discussion.

** Changed in: calamares (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Opinion

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[Bug 2061711] Re: lubuntu noble - full (inc. 3rd party) install is kinda slow

2024-04-15 Thread Chris Guiver
** Description changed:

  This is NOT a bug that can be fixed with code.
  
  At most a fix maybe a line in the release notes, that selecting all 3rd
  party software for inclusion can be SLOW IF you're using 3rd-world, some
  aussie NBN or other older/slower internet connections (or just
  infrastructure at canonical end anyway).
  
  This report has been filed ONLY for timing purposes; so I can look, and
  have record of how long install actually took (with calamares
  running)...
  
  A watched kettle always appears to take longer to boil... I was sitting
  watching this install & for a long time is stayed at 90% with slideshow
  repeating... I switched to show all messages and it didn't scroll up for
  maybe 10 mins there either..
  
  I actually CTRL+ALT+T and opened a terminal, made it full screen on this
  boxes other display & `sudo apt install iotop` and let that run... From
  there I could see downloads taking place (thru write) & eventually
- notice `snap download` progress to next page (krita, kf5 etc)... but the
- installer window remained at 90%.. then eventually 92%...  |
+ notice `snap download` progress to next package (krita, kf5 etc)... but
+ the installer window remained at 90%..  eventually 92%...  |
  
  Many users may assume the installer is 'looping' or dead...
  
  2024-04-16 - 02:17:35   (start of calamares)
  2024-04-16 - 12:17:43   (calamares switched to local time I assume)
  2024-04-16 - 12:48:06   (end calamares)
  
  So ~thirty minutes to install, I didn't let it sit at any dialog.. just
  selected items & continued...
  
  This box may not be quick... but I believe issue is mostly internet
  speed & what is required to be downloaded.. something we can't do much
  about it..
  
  Is a release note worth including??
  
  Could a end-user think the install has failed is looping, when in fact
  it isn't
  
  I don't see how we can change anything, as even viewing the messages
  calamares provides I didn't see progress for near 10 mins...   thus why
  I opened terminal & starting watching progress via `iotop`
  
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04
  Package: calamares 3.3.5-0ubuntu3
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1
  Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64
  .etc.calamares.modules.after_bootloader_context.conf:
   ---
   dontChroot: false
   timeout: 120
   firmwareType:
   "*": "-rm ${ROOT}/home/${USER}/Desktop/lubuntu-calamares.desktop"
  .etc.calamares.modules.finished.conf:
   ---
   restartNowMode: user-checked
   restartNowCommand: "systemctl -i reboot"
  .etc.calamares.modules.fstab.conf:
   crypttabOptions: luks,keyscript=/bin/cat
   efiMountOptions: umask=0077
  .etc.calamares.modules.shellprocess_logs.conf:
   ---
   dontChroot: true
   timeout: 30
   script:
   - calamares-logs-helper ${ROOT}
  .etc.calamares.modules.unpackfs.conf:
   ---
   unpack:
   -   source: "/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs"
   sourcefs: "squashfs"
   destination: ""
  ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: amd64
  CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
  CasperVersion: 1.496
  CurrentDesktop: LXQt
  Date: Tue Apr 16 12:48:16 2024
  LiveMediaBuild: Lubuntu 24.04 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Beta amd64 (20240415)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
   calamares-settings-ubuntu-common 1:24.04.28
   calamares-settings-lubuntu   1:24.04.28
   xfsprogs 6.6.0-1ubuntu2
   btrfs-progs  6.6.3-1.1build2
  SourcePackage: calamares
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 2061711] Re: lubuntu noble - full (inc. 3rd party) install is kinda slow

2024-04-15 Thread Chris Guiver
** Description changed:

  This is NOT a bug that can be fixed with code.
  
  At most a fix maybe a line in the release notes, that selecting all 3rd
  party software for inclusion can be SLOW IF you're using 3rd-world, some
  aussie NBN or other older/slower internet connections (or just
  infrastructure at canonical end anyway).
  
  This report has been filed ONLY for timing purposes; so I can look, and
  have record of how long install actually took (with calamares
  running)...
  
  A watched kettle always appears to take longer to boil... I was sitting
  watching this install & for a long time is stayed at 90% with slideshow
  repeating... I switched to show all messages and it didn't scroll up for
  maybe 10 mins there either..
  
  I actually CTRL+ALT+T and opened a terminal, made it full screen on this
  boxes other display & `sudo apt install iotop` and let that run... From
  there I could see downloads taking place (thru write) & eventually
  notice `snap download` progress to next page (krita, kf5 etc)... but the
  installer window remained at 90%.. then eventually 92%...  |
  
  Many users may assume the installer is 'looping' or dead...
  
+ 2024-04-16 - 02:17:35   (start of calamares)
+ 2024-04-16 - 12:17:43   (calamares switched to local time I assume)
+ 2024-04-16 - 12:48:06   (end calamares)
+ 
+ So ~thirty minutes to install, I didn't let it sit at any dialog.. just
+ selected items & continued...
+ 
+ This box may not be quick... but I believe issue is mostly internet
+ speed & what is required to be downloaded.. something we can't do much
+ about it..
+ 
+ Is a release note worth including??
+ 
+ Could a end-user think the install has failed is looping, when in fact
+ it isn't
+ 
+ I don't see how we can change anything, as even viewing the messages
+ calamares provides I didn't see progress for near 10 mins...   thus why
+ I opened terminal & starting watching progress via `iotop`
+ 
  ProblemType: Bug
  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 24.04
  Package: calamares 3.3.5-0ubuntu3
  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 6.8.0-22.22-generic 6.8.1
  Uname: Linux 6.8.0-22-generic x86_64
  .etc.calamares.modules.after_bootloader_context.conf:
-  ---
-  dontChroot: false
-  timeout: 120
-  firmwareType:
-  "*": "-rm ${ROOT}/home/${USER}/Desktop/lubuntu-calamares.desktop"
+  ---
+  dontChroot: false
+  timeout: 120
+  firmwareType:
+  "*": "-rm ${ROOT}/home/${USER}/Desktop/lubuntu-calamares.desktop"
  .etc.calamares.modules.finished.conf:
-  ---
-  restartNowMode: user-checked
-  restartNowCommand: "systemctl -i reboot"
+  ---
+  restartNowMode: user-checked
+  restartNowCommand: "systemctl -i reboot"
  .etc.calamares.modules.fstab.conf:
-  crypttabOptions: luks,keyscript=/bin/cat
-  efiMountOptions: umask=0077
+  crypttabOptions: luks,keyscript=/bin/cat
+  efiMountOptions: umask=0077
  .etc.calamares.modules.shellprocess_logs.conf:
-  ---
-  dontChroot: true
-  timeout: 30
-  script:
-  - calamares-logs-helper ${ROOT}
+  ---
+  dontChroot: true
+  timeout: 30
+  script:
+  - calamares-logs-helper ${ROOT}
  .etc.calamares.modules.unpackfs.conf:
-  ---
-  unpack:
-  -   source: "/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs"
-  sourcefs: "squashfs"
-  destination: ""
+  ---
+  unpack:
+  -   source: "/cdrom/casper/filesystem.squashfs"
+  sourcefs: "squashfs"
+  destination: ""
  ApportVersion: 2.28.0-0ubuntu1
  Architecture: amd64
  CasperMD5CheckResult: pass
  CasperVersion: 1.496
  CurrentDesktop: LXQt
  Date: Tue Apr 16 12:48:16 2024
  LiveMediaBuild: Lubuntu 24.04 LTS "Noble Numbat" - Beta amd64 (20240415)
  RelatedPackageVersions:
-  calamares-settings-ubuntu-common 1:24.04.28
-  calamares-settings-lubuntu   1:24.04.28
-  xfsprogs 6.6.0-1ubuntu2
-  btrfs-progs  6.6.3-1.1build2
+  calamares-settings-ubuntu-common 1:24.04.28
+  calamares-settings-lubuntu   1:24.04.28
+  xfsprogs 6.6.0-1ubuntu2
+  btrfs-progs  6.6.3-1.1build2
  SourcePackage: calamares
  UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install)

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[Bug 2061711] Re: lubuntu noble - full (inc. 3rd party) install is kinda slow

2024-04-15 Thread Ubuntu QA Website
This bug has been reported on the Ubuntu ISO testing tracker.

A list of all reports related to this bug can be found here:
http://iso.qa.ubuntu.com/qatracker/reports/bugs/2061711

** Tags added: iso-testing

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