Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Hi, The option should be available now. CCSM-Ubuntu Unity Plugin-Launcher-Minimize Single Window Applications On 03/19/2014 08:44 AM, Lonnie Lee Best wrote: @Christopher Townsend Thank you so much for listening to user feedback and implementing a fair compromise. Please don't under estimate how important this is to us. I can barely stand it when a lot of people want something and the developers won't even at least add it as a preference that can be access through a settings menu. You have no idea how much this little fix has boosted my Ubuntu morale! Question: I have a fully updated Ubuntu 14.04; when can I expect to see your fix in action (by simply installing updates suggested by the Ubuntu Update Manager)? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 7:35 PM, Daniel Moore danielmoor...@yahoo.comwrote: Please direct me towards a PPA that i can install to allow this feature for 13.10 or 14.04, that is if you can which i highly doubt is possible without having to build unity from scratch. Have you tried mnrl's PPA at comment #382https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/382 ? As for users like me who wanted to keep 12.04 until the next LTS comes out, I could only get this feature to work following the instructions of this very well explained post: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=2093170page=2p=12407469#post12407469 and replacing the version numbers by the more recent ones. Yes, it is quite a tedious method, and it installs lots of other features along with it. But I found that was worth it. I hope it helps. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
On Tue, Feb 25, 2014 at 1:43 AM, Daniel Moore danielmoor...@yahoo.comwrote: i cant seem to adjust but i was able too in 12.04 BECAUSE it had this feature. You must be kidding, right? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
One click to show the window picker. A second click to minimize all windows. Rince and repeat. Not so difficult, is it? 2014-02-04 Dimitri John Ledkov launch...@surgut.co.uk: Clicking on the icon exposes apps' windows. Please, do not change that! It's uber useful! When i click on it, i want to focus that app not make it disappear into oblivion! -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Obsolete project please ignore: Invalid Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in Unity Tweak Tool: Won't Fix Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Unity is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). Note that this bug has over 300 comments and several working but rejected patches. This means that this feature probably will never land in official Unity! So if you want it, you have to use a patched version of Unity. There is a working patch for 13.04 ( from comment #322, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana- design/+bug/733349/+attachment/3573380/+files/minimize.patch ). Somebody should set up a PPA (and note it here) to make it easy to install the patched version. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
So you think we should just ignore those who think it was a bad decision (including myself) and don't provide any option to satisfy those who wish there was an option to minimize? http://about.me/rolandixor/ On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Benjamin Geese 733...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: I know this is rather annoying as everybody seems to see the need to comment on this while this issue has been decided about two years ago. Saying that, i join this mess of noisy comments because i feel on view is rather underrepresented in this thread: The one of a happy user! I am perfectly happy with the current behaviour have never missed the minimized feature. I fact it might disturb my workflow. And even more so: I have never be so happy with a stable and functional desktop environment on linux as i am with unity. I think there have been some very good design decision made and, this time, we should just trust those people who decided this is a opinion or won't fix and leave it at this. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Obsolete project please ignore: Invalid Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in Unity Tweak Tool: Won't Fix Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Unity is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). Note that this bug has over 300 comments and several working but rejected patches. This means that this feature probably will never land in official Unity! So if you want it, you have to use a patched version of Unity. There is a working patch for 13.04 ( from comment #322, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana- design/+bug/733349/+attachment/3573380/+files/minimize.patch ). Somebody should set up a PPA (and note it here) to make it easy to install the patched version. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
The number of people who would like to choose how this works is in the thousands. Look at the bug heat, they just ignore it. Any firm that treats their customers like this should die a slow and painful death. Unity on desktop, broken by design just like win 8. MS however does respond to the critics and promises to improve and return the start menu. Makes me detest canonical even more. On Jan 28, 2014 4:01 PM, Dave Vree 733...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Not sure the name calling is helpful. That said, if I had 465 of my regular customers telling me to make a tweak to my product. I'd change it. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Obsolete project please ignore: Invalid Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in Unity Tweak Tool: Won't Fix Status in unity package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Unity is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). Note that this bug has over 300 comments and several working but rejected patches. This means that this feature probably will never land in official Unity! So if you want it, you have to use a patched version of Unity. There is a working patch for 13.04 ( from comment #322, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana- design/+bug/733349/+attachment/3573380/+files/minimize.patch ). Somebody should set up a PPA (and note it here) to make it easy to install the patched version. To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Cos they think they know better then millions of veteran users.. also they like to be an osx look alike and copy over even the cumbersome stuff like this. On Dec 7, 2012 2:50 PM, Flavio Fernandez flafe...@hotmail.com wrote: Why Cannonical do not listen their old users?? -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
On Mon 14 May 2012 10:15:57 AM AST, TomasHnyk wrote: Oh, I see. Well, it is more confusing (at least to me) than when it minimizes after spread as well. But anyway, why is the status wont'fix ? Should not it be Opinion ? Okay small request for those like me who want to see this functionality land. Please stop commenting. It's never going to happen. It is however getting annoying to get a mail about this every day. It's pointless. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
I think the fork in this case is more like let's take our the ball and play in another place. 2012/3/27 Jonathan French m...@jonathanfrench.net @Marco - I see what you mean, but the word fork implies a certain amount of animosity, a taking your ball and going home scenario, which I'm trying to avoid. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Well, I think it *is* a fork. It's a different branch, with a different feature, packaged in a PPA and not officially supported. And since it's not a feature that will be merged[1][2][3][4][5][6], I wouldn't call this a feature branch. [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/1 [2] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/19 [3] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/882274/comments/20 [4] https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity/+bug/882274/comments/25 [5] https://code.launchpad.net/~marcobiscaro2112/unity/fixes-733349/+merge/61473 [6] https://code.launchpad.net/~ojno/unity/minimize-on-click/+merge/98303 On 26-03-2012 18:45, Jonathan French wrote: You're all very welcome :) But let me make it clear -- my PPA is *not* a fork, it's just a feature branch. Hopefully, the Unity devs will be able to try it out, see the usability improvement, and include it in 12.10. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
The only sane thing to do is to add an option. Too many valid reasons and i will name 2: - i often minimize apps so that people behind my back dont watch what i do at work. - i minimize often because i dont want to be distracted by other windows Exactly this design failure drove me away from once so great ubuntu. Only other dock with this behaviour i know of is osx and i hate that ubuntu copies something this unfunctional without an alternative just like apple does, makes me vomit over both of them. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Em 29-12-2011 15:07, Danillo escreveu: @marcobiscaro2112: I noticed that the Ubuntu Unity plugin rotated is basically a fork, right? Yes. It's composed by two distinct plugins: the official one (Unity) and the Unity Rotated. Well, I agree that's not something that we should strive for, and I was thinking more about the possibility of releasing a Compiz plugin that didn't need forking Unity. Is that possible? Short awnser: no. Long answer: unity is a plugin for compiz, responsible for the appmenu, the launcher, the alt+tab switcher, etc. This means that the launcher is just one part of unity and we cannot make a plugin that only changes this specific part without forking all the code. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
On 12/15/2011 12:30 PM, sabby7890 wrote: ... I think this is main usability issue that leads users to other distros than Ubuntu. Just because they can't simply click-to-minimize for a quick peek. Wrong. People are looking at other distros because of Ubuntu's condescending won't fix attitude on this particular bug, among others. -- Θ ̨Θƪ -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Em 15-12-2011 16:30, sabby7890 escreveu: In order to archieve the behaviour that @spradders recommended, Unity should minimize on click ONLY when there's single, focused and raised window under the launcher's icon. This would be inconsistent. Users will think Why when I click the icon sometimes it minimizes and sometimes it does absolutly nothing? This may be a bug.. It should always do something (as proposed in comment #58) or it should always do nothing (which, IMO, is bad but is the current behaviour). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
2011/12/15 Marco Biscaro marcobiscaro2...@gmail.com Em 15-12-2011 16:30, sabby7890 escreveu: In order to archieve the behaviour that @spradders recommended, Unity should minimize on click ONLY when there's single, focused and raised window under the launcher's icon. This would be inconsistent. Users will think Why when I click the icon sometimes it minimizes and sometimes it does absolutly nothing? This may be a bug.. It should always do something (as proposed in comment #58) or it should always do nothing (which, IMO, is bad but is the current behaviour). Indeed. The obvious solution for multiple windows would be to run expose on the first click (as it currently does) and minimize all windows in the second click. Simple, obvious, discoverable and with prior art (AWN and Docky). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Gnome 3.2 does not use Compiz, it uses Mutter which is significantly faster on my system (6310m with radeon drivers). 2011/11/10 eZFlow 733...@bugs.launchpad.net @Eliah -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
I know but Ubuntu still uses compiz with GNOME3.2. You tried KDE4.7? On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:42 AM, The Fiddler 733...@bugs.launchpad.netwrote: Gnome 3.2 does not use Compiz, it uses Mutter which is significantly faster on my system (6310m with radeon drivers). 2011/11/10 eZFlow 733...@bugs.launchpad.net @Eliah -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
The correct comparison is Unity vs KDE, not Gnome 3.2 vs KDE. As I said, Gnome 3.2 is visibly faster (on my system) than either KDE or Compiz. KDE 4.7 appears to scroll and animate smoother than Unity (and KDE 4.6), but not as smoothly as Gnome 3.2. (Again, this is on my 6310m with the radeon drivers). 2011/11/10 eZFlow 733...@bugs.launchpad.net I know but Ubuntu still uses compiz with GNOME3.2. You tried KDE4.7? On Thu, Nov 10, 2011 at 11:42 AM, The Fiddler 733...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Gnome 3.2 does not use Compiz, it uses Mutter which is significantly faster on my system (6310m with radeon drivers). 2011/11/10 eZFlow 733...@bugs.launchpad.net @Eliah -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
The design flaw is in the core of their organisation so i have moved on for the better. Chakra project puts Ubuntu to shame in every aspect. KDE is many times faster, more mature and miles more advanced then GNOME will ever be. I have never experienced such a smooth desktop before and i always thought its because of the drivers or the X server but the problem lies within GNOME. I recommend everyone who likes choice and customization to switch to KDE. Ubuntu treats their community like crap so they absolutely dont deserve anything back. Once Ubuntu starts loosing users, they will think twice and i for one am not recommending Ubuntu anymore. On Fri, Nov 4, 2011 at 4:37 PM, Kewball 5...@triopticon.com wrote: This attitude of moving on with no real explanation and no real acknowledgement of the dissenters' position or proposed solutions shows a stifling, group-think bureaucracy and reveals a brittle organization that is actively rejecting the very people who were early adopters and promoters of the Brand. The official condescension would be bad enough if the technical design were correct, but the design being questioned here is clearly wrong. Whether double-clicks, multiple-clicks, or Morse-code-clicks accomplish the action is important but not quite the point: the design flaw is that the *nix tradition of the end user having the freedom (yes, freedom) to change the behavior of the software is being decided by... who? The 26 committers? The 15-member focus group? Certainly not the many people who have taken the time and effort to point out an important issue here on launchpad.net. Ubuntu have decided Unity the only desktop environment. Ubuntu have decided Launcher will have default actions. Ubuntu have decided Launcher will have no user-modifiable behaviors, no configurable double-click-to-minimize settings. Ubuntu's my way or the highway attitude, expressed here and realized in the Launcher code is the design flaw. -- You received this bug notification because you are subscribed to the bug report. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon Status in Ayatana Design: Won't Fix Status in Unity: Won't Fix Status in “unity” package in Ubuntu: Won't Fix Bug description: What I do miss in Natty (Alpha 3 + daily builds) is the possibility to click on the app. icon on the Unity launcher bar to minimize all windows of that application, not only to launch/restore it. mlaverdiere's futher addition: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/comments/2 My suggestion would be to modify the interaction-design/process like this (*=my modification proposal/2 cents!): 1) start it, if it hasn't been started yet; *2) restore it, if it is minimized; *3) focus the app, if it's started, not minimized and has not the focus yet; 4) spread windows (of app), if app is focused and has multiple windows open; *5) minimize it if it is in spread-mode (see 4). To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
2011/10/19 razor 733...@bugs.launchpad.net How weird it looks on a tablet to minimize anything at all. No idea, how weird would it look? While you are at it, how weird would it look to have multiple instances of the same application running on a tablet? Indeed, why would you even need window management on a table at all? Modern tablets always work in fullscreen mode! As I said in my previous post, the tablet is a red herring. The current incarnation of Unity is a 100% desktop shell, not a tablet shell, not a phone shell, but a desktop shell. Its developers, even Mark himself, have made this very clear. If, as you say, a feature makes good sense for the desktop, then I want that feature. When (and if) tablets become a concern, then we can revisit this discussion. I'm quite certain that there'll be bigger fish to fry first (autohiding dash? tiny window buttons? hidden menus?) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
2011/10/18 razor 733...@bugs.launchpad.net I know why this bug won't be fixed. Because it makes no sense for a tablet with touch screen to minimize an app when user clicks the launcher icon. What will the user expect when they touch the launcher icon? The obvious answer is to list all the opened windows managers and then press the one they want to activate. Minimizing it, confuses the whole thing. Neither multiple icons can be used to represent individual nautilus windows. You are missing a trivial solution to your hypothetical(*) tablet issue: first click activates window picker; second click minimizes all windows, third click restores them. Problem solved. Touch workflow is not impacted, people get a way to quickly minimize a window and fix one of the most egregious bugs in Unity. That's what we have been suggesting since the very first comments in this thread and related bug report, and this is what a user kindly implemented back in 11.04. (*) I say hypothetical, because Unity in 11.04 and 11.10 is not targetted at tablets. This has been made clear time and time again, by closing tablet-related usability bug reports and feature requests. (Besides, touch input cannot work with invisible menus and window controls, so it's pretty obvious tablets are not being taken into account - ergo, this is a red herring). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
2011/10/18 Michael 733...@bugs.launchpad.net You are missing a trivial solution to your hypothetical(*) tablet issue: first click activates window picker; second click minimizes all windows, third click restores them. Problem solved. Touch workflow is not impacted, people get a way to quickly minimize a window and fix one of the most egregious bugs in Unity. On OS X/exposé, one click raises all windows, a second hides them and click-and-hold activates the picker. See http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exposé_(Mac_OS_X). That works, too! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
This, reducing the font size and fixing some annoying bugs would make Ubuntu perfect. W dniu 16.10.2011 16:40, Felix Belzile pisze: Agreed with everyone here. The launcher already takes up a lot of space, so you might as well make it do something other than open an application. Think about the basic design principles. 1. How often do you think people will want to open new applications? 2. How often will people want to minimize these applications? Number two, if you haven't guessed correctly, will be used the most often... and it is the feature not supported. There is no good reason to not make windows minimize on click, except to piss people off. Yes, there is a minimize button on the top of every window. But look at the size of this button to the launcher. I don't think its a fair comparison. The amount of effort it takes to aim for the small button is way beyond what I have to do to click the massive launcher button. I'm already disappointed enough with the launcher not being able to move locations. This is why I switched to Linux in the first place. I might as well go back to Windows and have a launcher that works the way I want it to. Stop making decisions for us. This goes against the meaning of the word Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
There are certainly lots of people that would like this, myself included, for the exact same reasons as the ones mentioned here (with the current design, it's very difficult to switch to a different window (chat, documentation) temporarily, then switch back to the original one). Unfortunately, the designers do not seem to agree to this decision for opaque design reasons. Unless they decide to revisit their design, I'm afraid everything we do or say will fall on deaf ears. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Roland, that's nonsense. I've commented on this bug, stating our position clearly. That's not ignoring, that's taking a decision and moving on. You should do the same, please. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Move on is cheap talk when our day-to-day workflow is impacted in such a way. And if there's anything that's nonsense, it's the dismissal of community patches and contributions. Roland's expression is most fitting here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
I have moved on: away from Unity -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon
Until this is resolved, I will stay in Classic Ubuntu with Docky. Unity annoys me to no end this way. It is like it has huge potential to offer a lot, but instead it just doesn't offer enough. The same goes for the lenses. It allows me to find my files real easy, but the only thing I can do is click to execute? What about basic operations (cut/copy/paste/open folder)? It is just not useful enough this way, and counter productive because in general everything now involves more clicks and mouse movement to get stuff done. With regards, - Jorgen Bodde -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/733349 Title: Minimize Application's Windows upon clicking its Launcher Icon To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/733349/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
