[ClusterLabs] VG activation on Active/Passive

2015-08-30 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hi,

For an active/passive cluster, using a non-cluster filesystem like ext3
over LVM (using cLVM  DLM), would you:

-  include the VG activation in the same cloned group that hosts cLVM 
DLM? (top of screenshot) so that in both nodes the VG is activated (even
though this is not a cluster-filesystem so there's no need to have the
VG activated on both sides simultaneously)?

or

- do you create a separate group with the VG activation (LVM resource)
and tie it with the Filesystem resource? (bottom of screenshot).  This
makes more sense to me since the VG only needs to be activated where the
filesystem is going to be mounted.

Here's my screenshot:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/10pn9n6.jpg

I belive this last one is THE way to go for such setup (active/passive)
but I'm wondering why I have seen examples online with the first case.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks!
Jorge

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[ClusterLabs] VG activation on Active/Passive

2015-08-29 Thread Jorge Fábregas
Hi,

For an active/passive cluster, using a non-cluster filesystem like ext3
over LVM (using cLVM  DLM), would you:

-  include the VG activation in the same cloned group that hosts cLVM 
DLM? (top of screenshot) so that in both nodes the VG is activated (even
though this is not a cluster-filesystem so there's no need to have the
VG activated on both sides simultaneously)?

or

- do you create a separate group with the VG activation (LVM resource)
and tie it with the Filesystem resource? (bottom of screenshot).  This
makes more sense to me since the VG only needs to be activated where the
filesystem is going to be mounted.

Here's my screenshot:

http://oi60.tinypic.com/10pn9n6.jpg

I belive this last one is THE way to go for such setup (active/passive)
but I'm wondering why I have seen examples online with the first case.
Maybe I'm missing something.

Thanks!
Jorge

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Re: [ClusterLabs] VG activation on Active/Passive

2015-08-29 Thread Jorge Fábregas
On 08/29/2015 02:37 PM, Digimer wrote:
 No need for clustered LVM, only the active node should see the PV. When
 the passive takes over, after connecting to the PV, it should do a
 pvscan - vgscan - lvscan before mounting the FS on the LV.
 
 Keep you cluster simple; remove everything not needed.

Hi Digimer,

It would be great if my cluster could communicate with the storage-array
to make it present or unpresent LUNs based on the cluster conditions
but I'm afraid that's not possible :)  So yes, these are LUNs that are
visible on both nodes.

I'm the one who asked you something regarding cLVM on IRC the other day
(one of the many times you have helped me there) and I decided to go the
cLVM/DLM route (because the LUNs are seen on both nodes) but now I have
my issues with this VG activation.

Thanks.

Regards,
Jorge


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Re: [ClusterLabs] VG activation on Active/Passive

2015-08-29 Thread Digimer
On 29/08/15 02:30 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 Hi,
 
 For an active/passive cluster, using a non-cluster filesystem like ext3
 over LVM (using cLVM  DLM), would you:

No need for clustered LVM, only the active node should see the PV. When
the passive takes over, after connecting to the PV, it should do a
pvscan - vgscan - lvscan before mounting the FS on the LV.

Keep you cluster simple; remove everything not needed.

 -  include the VG activation in the same cloned group that hosts cLVM 
 DLM? (top of screenshot) so that in both nodes the VG is activated (even
 though this is not a cluster-filesystem so there's no need to have the
 VG activated on both sides simultaneously)?
 
 or
 
 - do you create a separate group with the VG activation (LVM resource)
 and tie it with the Filesystem resource? (bottom of screenshot).  This
 makes more sense to me since the VG only needs to be activated where the
 filesystem is going to be mounted.
 
 Here's my screenshot:
 
 http://oi60.tinypic.com/10pn9n6.jpg
 
 I belive this last one is THE way to go for such setup (active/passive)
 but I'm wondering why I have seen examples online with the first case.
 Maybe I'm missing something.
 
 Thanks!
 Jorge
 
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Re: [ClusterLabs] VG activation on Active/Passive

2015-08-29 Thread Digimer
On 29/08/15 02:51 PM, Jorge Fábregas wrote:
 On 08/29/2015 02:37 PM, Digimer wrote:
 No need for clustered LVM, only the active node should see the PV. When
 the passive takes over, after connecting to the PV, it should do a
 pvscan - vgscan - lvscan before mounting the FS on the LV.

 Keep you cluster simple; remove everything not needed.
 
 Hi Digimer,
 
 It would be great if my cluster could communicate with the storage-array
 to make it present or unpresent LUNs based on the cluster conditions
 but I'm afraid that's not possible :)  So yes, these are LUNs that are
 visible on both nodes.
 
 I'm the one who asked you something regarding cLVM on IRC the other day
 (one of the many times you have helped me there) and I decided to go the
 cLVM/DLM route (because the LUNs are seen on both nodes) but now I have
 my issues with this VG activation.
 
 Thanks.
 
 Regards,
 Jorge

Ah, OK then.

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