Re: Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread Stipe Tolj

Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:

No, it can't


well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.

There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4. So 
Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP server 
on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the signaling 
network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination MSISDN and 
signaling the message to the phone.


So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the IP 
based side.


If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the interface API 
of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of course possible.


Stipe

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Re: Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread michael osakede
Hi Stipes,
Thanks for this, are there any commercial or open source bearerbox module for 
this?please assist with links for creating custom bearerbox modules.
thanksMichael

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From: Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org
Subject: Re: Kannel and SS7
To: 
Cc: users@kannel.org users@kannel.org
Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 12:24 PM

Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:
 No, it can't

well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.

There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4. So 
Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP 
server on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the 
signaling network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination 
MSISDN and signaling the message to the phone.

So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the IP 
based side.

If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the interface 
API of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of course possible.

Stipe

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[Ticket #11] Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread IT
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Hi All,
Can kannel be used with an SS7 gateway as against the regular SMPP servers?
Please any help is welcome
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[Ticket #15] Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread IT
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On May 05, 2011 @ 12:16 pm, ire...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Stipes,
Thanks for this, are there any commercial or open source bearerbox module for 
this?please assist with links for creating custom bearerbox modules.
thanksMichael

--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org wrote:

From: Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org
Subject: Re: Kannel and SS7
To: 
Cc: users@kannel.org users@kannel.org
Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 12:24 PM

Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:
 No, it can't

well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.

There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4. So 
Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP 
server on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the 
signaling network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination 
MSISDN and signaling the message to the phone.

So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the IP 
based side.

If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the interface 
API of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of course possible.

Stipe

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Re: [Ticket #15] Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread Milan P. Stanic
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On Thu, 2011-05-05 at 12:16, IT wrote:
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 On May 05, 2011 @ 12:16 pm, ire...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi Stipes,
 Thanks for this, are there any commercial or open source bearerbox module for 
 this?please assist with links for creating custom bearerbox modules.
 thanksMichael
 
 --- On Thu, 5/5/11, Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org wrote:
 
 From: Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org
 Subject: Re: Kannel and SS7
 To: 
 Cc: users@kannel.org users@kannel.org
 Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 12:24 PM
 
 Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:
  No, it can't
 
 well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.
 
 There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4. So 
 Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP 
 server on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the 
 signaling network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination 
 MSISDN and signaling the message to the phone.
 
 So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the IP 
 based side.
 
 If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the interface 
 API of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of course possible.
 
 Stipe
 
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[Ticket #15] Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread IT
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On May 05, 2011 @ 12:16 pm, ire...@yahoo.com wrote:
Hi Stipes,
Thanks for this, are there any commercial or open source bearerbox module for 
this?please assist with links for creating custom bearerbox modules.
thanksMichael

--- On Thu, 5/5/11, Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org wrote:

From: Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org
Subject: Re: Kannel and SS7
To: 
Cc: users@kannel.org users@kannel.org
Date: Thursday, May 5, 2011, 12:24 PM

Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:
 No, it can't

well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.

There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4. So 
Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP 
server on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the 
signaling network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination 
MSISDN and signaling the message to the phone.

So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the IP 
based side.

If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the interface 
API of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of course possible.

Stipe

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Re: [Ticket #15] Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread Stipe Tolj

Am 05.05.2011 13:19, schrieb Milan P. Stanic:

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agree, I have removed the user from the list.

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Re: Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread Juan Nin
Ok, but from Kannel's point of view it's still SMPP.
What I meant is that Kannel can not talk SS7 directly.   :)

On Thursday, May 5, 2011, Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org wrote:
 Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:

 No, it can't


 well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.

 There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4. So 
 Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP 
 server on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the 
 signaling network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination 
 MSISDN and signaling the message to the phone.

 So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the IP 
 based side.

 If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the interface 
 API of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of course possible.

 Stipe

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RE: Kannel and SS7

2011-05-05 Thread Rene Kluwen
Chimit has developed an SS7 driver for CDMA, which can be adapted for GSM.
It's not cheap though. Info via me.

== Rene

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From: users-boun...@kannel.org [mailto:users-boun...@kannel.org] On Behalf
Of Juan Nin
Sent: Thursday, 05 May, 2011 15:26
To: Stipe Tolj
Cc: users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: Kannel and SS7

Ok, but from Kannel's point of view it's still SMPP.
What I meant is that Kannel can not talk SS7 directly.   :)

On Thursday, May 5, 2011, Stipe Tolj s...@tolj.org wrote:
 Am 04.05.2011 20:59, schrieb Juan Nin:

 No, it can't


 well, don't want to foul Juan hard here ;) but yes, it could.

 There are SS7 gateways that allow you to interface to it via SMPP v3.4.
So Kannel can send SMPP PDUs to the SS7 gateway, which acts hence as as SMPP
server on the one side, and inter-connects as own point code machine in the
signaling network, performing the signal point resolution of the destination
MSISDN and signaling the message to the phone.

 So the answer is: yes, if the signaling gateway acts as SMPP server on the
IP based side.

 If not, then you need to develop a bearerbox module that talks the
interface API of the signaling gateway to interact with it, which IS of
course possible.

 Stipe

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Kannel and SS7

2011-05-04 Thread michael osakede
Hi All,
Can kannel be used with an SS7 gateway as against the regular SMPP servers?
Please any help is welcome
Regards,Michael

Re: Kannel and SS7

2011-05-04 Thread Juan Nin
No, it can't

On Wednesday, May 4, 2011, michael osakede ire...@yahoo.com wrote:
 Hi All,
 Can kannel be used with an SS7 gateway as against the regular SMPP servers?
 Please any help is welcome
 Regards,Michael



Re: kannel smsc-ss7 ?

2010-04-09 Thread Konstantin Vayner
Actually, almost every project of integration with any piece of software
seems abandoned on openss7.org ... not to mention the whole project's own
homepage hasnt got any updates in almost two years, which makes me wonder if
it itself is alive :/

2010/4/8 Nikos Balkanas nbalka...@gmail.com

  Ain't we all. No driver for it. A project initiated by openss7 has been
 abandoned many years now, due to lack of interest.

 BR,
 Nikos

 - Original Message -
 *From:* Konstantin Vayner pon...@appcell.net
 *To:* users@kannel.org
 *Sent:* Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:25 PM
 *Subject:* kannel smsc-ss7 ?

  Hi all,

 Looking for SS7 implementation.

 Regards,
 Β Β Konstantin




Re: kannel smsc-ss7 ?

2010-04-09 Thread Nikos Balkanas
I know. It is a pitty. I guess lack of interest doomed this opensource. Too bad 
i wasn't involved with kannel back then.

BR,
Nikos
  - Original Message - 
  From: Konstantin Vayner 
  To: Nikos Balkanas 
  Cc: users@kannel.org 
  Sent: Friday, April 09, 2010 11:25 AM
  Subject: Re: kannel smsc-ss7 ?


  Actually, almost every project of integration with any piece of software 
seems abandoned on openss7.org ... not to mention the whole project's own 
homepage hasnt got any updates in almost two years, which makes me wonder if it 
itself is alive :/


  2010/4/8 Nikos Balkanas nbalka...@gmail.com

Ain't we all. No driver for it. A project initiated by openss7 has been 
abandoned many years now, due to lack of interest.
Β 
BR,
Nikos
  - Original Message - 
  From: Konstantin Vayner 
  To: users@kannel.org 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:25 PM
  Subject: kannel smsc-ss7 ?


  Hi all,


  Looking for SS7 implementation.


  Regards,
  Ξ’Β Ξ’Β Konstantin



kannel smsc-ss7 ?

2010-04-08 Thread Konstantin Vayner
Hi all,

Looking for SS7 implementation.

Regards,
  Konstantin


Re: kannel smsc-ss7 ?

2010-04-08 Thread Nikos Balkanas
Ain't we all. No driver for it. A project initiated by openss7 has been 
abandoned many years now, due to lack of interest.

BR,
Nikos
  - Original Message - 
  From: Konstantin Vayner 
  To: users@kannel.org 
  Sent: Thursday, April 08, 2010 6:25 PM
  Subject: kannel smsc-ss7 ?


  Hi all,


  Looking for SS7 implementation.


  Regards,
  Β Β Konstantin

Re: kannel smsc-ss7 ?

2010-04-08 Thread seikath
If there is a ss7 beast, it should be somewhere at the dev jungle ..


On 04/08/2010 06:25 PM, Konstantin Vayner wrote:
 Hi all,
 
 Looking for SS7 implementation.
 
 Regards,
   Konstantin



Re: kannel smsc-ss7 ?

2010-04-08 Thread Goke Aruna
Contact a...@dicea.dk

On 4/8/10, Konstantin Vayner pon...@appcell.net wrote:
 Hi all,

 Looking for SS7 implementation.

 Regards,
   Konstantin


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Kannel and ss7 connection

2007-10-30 Thread ismail
Hi All

I have Kannel 1.4.1 with ethernet Internet connections to some carriers. I
need to connect to another carrier using ss7 (E1) link. I am thinking of
using a Cisco router to terminate the ss7 link. Please what do I need to be
able to connect kannel to the carrier smsc through the ss7 link?

Thanks.

Ismail




RE: Kannel and ss7 connection

2007-10-30 Thread Rene Kluwen
There exist SS7 communication layer drivers that act as a usual smsc
driver for Kannel.
They are not open source though. And also not cheap.
More details via me.

Rene Kluwen
Chimit


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Sent: dinsdag 30 oktober 2007 18:26
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; users@kannel.org
Subject: RE: Kannel and ss7 connection


Hi,

Kannel is not dealing directly with SS7 connection but with other
protocols such SMPP.



-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: mardi 30 octobre 2007 05:30
To: users@kannel.org
Subject: Kannel and ss7 connection

Hi All

I have Kannel 1.4.1 with ethernet Internet connections to some carriers.
I need to connect to another carrier using ss7 (E1) link. I am thinking
of using a Cisco router to terminate the ss7 link. Please what do I need
to be able to connect kannel to the carrier smsc through the ss7 link?

Thanks.

Ismail






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Re: kannel n ss7

2006-02-16 Thread Stipe Tolj

nauman wrote:


Hi,
How can kannel can send /receive sms to / from mobile station?
I mean mobile station sends data to operator’s network on SS7 link.
Can it be integrated with SS7 networks?


No... the SS7 layer is beneith the layers Kannel has access to. The device 
signals via SS7 layer towards the SMSC of the carrier. The SMSC moves the 
message the layer up to SMPP or EMI/UCP or any other IP based protocol, where 
Kannel comes in touch.


There have been ideas in merging OpenSS7 and Kannel into a generic open source 
SMSC. As far as I know, there are some real world implementations that let 
special Kannel versions grep into the scope of SS7 layer, but those are not open 
to the public. They are developed and used by companies that move huge ammount 
of messages.


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RE: kannel n ss7

2006-02-16 Thread nauman
Dear Stipe,
Thanks for clearing my understanding.
Actually I have to make a SMSC.
Currently I have made an with which can send receive sms from / to
mobile station on MAP SS7 
I have also the open implementation of SMPP v3.4.
I really can't understand how to interface both of them (SMPP and MAP
SS7)
Is not there any protocol to convert MAP messages to SMPP? 
Or any gateway that come in between the SS7 Map layer and SMPP?

Looking forward;

Nauman
-Original Message-
From: Stipe Tolj [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, February 16, 2006 9:07 PM
To: nauman
Cc: users@kannel.org
Subject: Re: kannel n ss7

nauman wrote:

 Hi,
 How can kannel can send /receive sms to / from mobile station?
 I mean mobile station sends data to operator’s network on SS7 link.
 Can it be integrated with SS7 networks?

No... the SS7 layer is beneith the layers Kannel has access to. The
device 
signals via SS7 layer towards the SMSC of the carrier. The SMSC moves
the 
message the layer up to SMPP or EMI/UCP or any other IP based
protocol, where 
Kannel comes in touch.

There have been ideas in merging OpenSS7 and Kannel into a generic
open source 
SMSC. As far as I know, there are some real world implementations that
let 
special Kannel versions grep into the scope of SS7 layer, but those are
not open 
to the public. They are developed and used by companies that move huge
ammount 
of messages.

Stipe

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