[AlmaLinux Users] Re: LSRRB (Linux Software Raid Redundant Boot)

2023-01-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 11:21, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

>
>
> On 1/11/23 10:56, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:
>
>
>
> On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 10:36, Robert Moskowitz 
> wrote:
>
>> I have a new HPE Prioliant gen10plus that I will be setting up with RAID1.
>>
>> I have been asking questions on the Centos-user list, but my plan is to
>> install AlmaLinux 9.1
>>
>> And I have been following comments about problems with RAID support in it.
>>
>> Meanwhile in my digging into RAID on my gen10+ install I find:
>>
>> https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/lsrrb/
>>
>> And lsrrb.
>>
>>
> Why do you need this lsrrb? What is your eventual goal for the system?
> What is the hardware exactly (number and type of drives, memory, etc) and
> what kind of RAID are you trying to use? What are the problems you say that
> are said about RAID support that you are trying to avoid. I think people
> need a lot more info before anyone can try to answer you.
>
>
> Fair questions.   I really don't know.  I have never implement RAID
> directly.  Oh I have it working on my QNAP NAS, but that is a closed system
> as far as managing the RAID, and I know the RAID works, as I had to replace
> a failing drive last month.
>
> My goal is that ALL of the software and data is RAIDed.  Not just a data
> store.
>
> I bought the gen10+ for my new mail server.  The goal is AlmaLinux and
> iRedMail for a system that I can expect to run at least 10 years with
> minimum maint.  I am skating on thin ice with my current mail server.  I am
> getting up in years, and don't want to futz so much.
>
> So how, with a software RAID platform, do I make things so that I have
> complete recovery if even the dist with /boot fails and is replaced?  I
> just don't have the background.
>
> Point me to a guide of how to do this other than what HPE provides.  I
> would be happy to use what is built into AL, but given some recent postings
> here on RAID problems with 9.1, I need to educate myself.
>
>
>
So as far as I can tell the lsrrd is just making a lot of decisions in the
kickstart which could be done at scale for a datacenter which is why it is
requesting to set up a PXE server, etc. For a single server, you can do
everything but the RAID of EUFI partitions from the graphical installer in
the EL 8 or 9 system.  [The EUFI is problematic because it was never really
'raided' but sort of done so.] Basically determine how many drives you have
in the server. If you want to use hardware RAID, go through the HP system
to set up the drives to be RAID set up that way. [I haven't done this in
years so you will need to scour youtube, etc for instructions.). If you
want to use software RAID, then what I do is go into the installer and when
going into the disk layout go to the 'advanced' or blivet mode. I usually
then have to fool around a couple of times to 'remember' what is needed to
set things up. I would probably set it up as follows:
/boot/EUFI (EUFI format) on /dev/sda or if the installer allows it 'choose'
raid in a submenu and RAID1 it across. {otherwise it may need doing a
CONTROL-ALT-F2 and then running fdisk on each drive to set things up the
way you want.. I have done that.}

Then /boot RAID1 over the N drives you have and then a LVM (look for a
dropdown semi-hidden which allows you to specify the LVM drive layout RAID5
or RAID6 if you have enough drives). Then put the partition layout you want
in the LVM.

My apologies that this is sort of ragged instructions. I am split between
work and breaks on writing this.


-- 
Stephen J Smoogen.
Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle.
-- Ian MacClaren


[AlmaLinux Users] Re: LSRRB (Linux Software Raid Redundant Boot)

2023-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz



On 1/11/23 10:56, Stephen John Smoogen wrote:



On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 10:36, Robert Moskowitz  
wrote:


I have a new HPE Prioliant gen10plus that I will be setting up
with RAID1.

I have been asking questions on the Centos-user list, but my plan
is to
install AlmaLinux 9.1

And I have been following comments about problems with RAID
support in it.

Meanwhile in my digging into RAID on my gen10+ install I find:

https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/lsrrb/

And lsrrb.


Why do you need this lsrrb? What is your eventual goal for the system? 
What is the hardware exactly (number and type of drives, memory, etc) 
and what kind of RAID are you trying to use? What are the problems you 
say that are said about RAID support that you are trying to avoid. I 
think people need a lot more info before anyone can try to answer you.


Fair questions.   I really don't know.  I have never implement RAID 
directly.  Oh I have it working on my QNAP NAS, but that is a closed 
system as far as managing the RAID, and I know the RAID works, as I had 
to replace a failing drive last month.


My goal is that ALL of the software and data is RAIDed.  Not just a data 
store.


I bought the gen10+ for my new mail server.  The goal is AlmaLinux and 
iRedMail for a system that I can expect to run at least 10 years with 
minimum maint.  I am skating on thin ice with my current mail server.  I 
am getting up in years, and don't want to futz so much.


So how, with a software RAID platform, do I make things so that I have 
complete recovery if even the dist with /boot fails and is replaced?  I 
just don't have the background.


Point me to a guide of how to do this other than what HPE provides. I 
would be happy to use what is built into AL, but given some recent 
postings here on RAID problems with 9.1, I need to educate myself.






It is available for RH8.  Can I get it to work with AL9.1? should
I for
a single server?

It seems to use PXE, TFTP, and kickstart.  A lot of work, is it worth
it?  Or is there a short cut?

thanks for any help you can provide.


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[AlmaLinux Users] Re: LSRRB (Linux Software Raid Redundant Boot)

2023-01-11 Thread Stephen John Smoogen
On Wed, 11 Jan 2023 at 10:36, Robert Moskowitz  wrote:

> I have a new HPE Prioliant gen10plus that I will be setting up with RAID1.
>
> I have been asking questions on the Centos-user list, but my plan is to
> install AlmaLinux 9.1
>
> And I have been following comments about problems with RAID support in it.
>
> Meanwhile in my digging into RAID on my gen10+ install I find:
>
> https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/lsrrb/
>
> And lsrrb.
>
>
Why do you need this lsrrb? What is your eventual goal for the system? What
is the hardware exactly (number and type of drives, memory, etc) and what
kind of RAID are you trying to use? What are the problems you say that are
said about RAID support that you are trying to avoid. I think people need a
lot more info before anyone can try to answer you.



> It is available for RH8.  Can I get it to work with AL9.1?  should I for
> a single server?
>
> It seems to use PXE, TFTP, and kickstart.  A lot of work, is it worth
> it?  Or is there a short cut?
>
> thanks for any help you can provide.
>
>
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Let us be kind to one another, for most of us are fighting a hard battle.
-- Ian MacClaren


[AlmaLinux Users] Re: LSRRB (Linux Software Raid Redundant Boot)

2023-01-11 Thread Robert Moskowitz
As I look at the users guide for lsrrb, it SEEMS that since AL will be 
installed from a bootable usb stick in the internal USB port on the 
gen10+, that I can just directly modify the needed files on the boot USB 
stick?  And add what ever software needed directly in or is lsrrb 
already included?  I see it is noarch.


It has probably been a decade or so and maybe Centos4? since I played 
with kickstart.


thanks

On 1/11/23 10:30, Robert Moskowitz wrote:
I have a new HPE Prioliant gen10plus that I will be setting up with 
RAID1.


I have been asking questions on the Centos-user list, but my plan is 
to install AlmaLinux 9.1


And I have been following comments about problems with RAID support in 
it.


Meanwhile in my digging into RAID on my gen10+ install I find:

https://downloads.linux.hpe.com/SDR/project/lsrrb/

And lsrrb.

It is available for RH8.  Can I get it to work with AL9.1?  should I 
for a single server?


It seems to use PXE, TFTP, and kickstart.  A lot of work, is it worth 
it?  Or is there a short cut?


thanks for any help you can provide.


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