Re: F37 XFCE bell – where to turn it off
stan via users writes: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 07:18:33 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After updating to F37, the new XFCE desktop appears to have > implemented the screen beep/bell function. The default beep/bell > audio is quite annoying, does anyone know where the setting for that > is, I can't find it. > > I tried doing > > xset b off > > But it's still barking at me. The xfce man pages have this settings editor, https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/editor Well, that doesn't tell me where's the setting for the audio bell. It seems you aren't alone in your dislike of this 'feature'. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/214607/how-to-disable-beep-tone-in- xfce-when-the-delete-button-is-pressed That's something else. That's talking about the X11 console beep, that's handled by X. This is something that appears to be a new feature. In xfce4-terminal's settings' "Advanced" tab I found an "Audible Bell" that shuts this off. But ^G in emacs was still yapping away. I finally found "System Sounds" in audio mixer and turned out the volume of this. But, somewhere, there must be a setting that let's you pick the actual audio bell that gets played, but I haven't found it. This is something that xfce might be inheriting from Gnome. pgpnZelqo6rVI.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On 11/21/22 07:41, Tom Horsley wrote: New f37 install. Turned off rhgb and quiet boot options. Now interspersed with the "normal" boot messages, I get blocks of strange gibberish characters spewed on the screen from time to time, like something just wrote a bunch of random binary data. Doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it sure is strange. I've seen this with F36 on every system I've checked. As you say, it doesn't seem to be harmful. (I first noticed it on an old computer and thought there was memory corruption or something.) I only noticed it because the install boots don't hide it with Plymouth. But when I checked other systems, I saw it there as well. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 22:31:02 + Barry wrote: > Is the gibberish always in the same place in the boot sequence? > Is the gibberish the same each time? Hard to know for sure, but it seems randomly placed, though it looks kind of like the same sort of gibberish everywhere it appears. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On 22/11/22 03:25, stan via users wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:44:57 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I have booked marked a support/tips page from the suppliers of the Asus motherboard and the pages the main page links to contains Youtube videos. The videos wouldn't play in Firefox Nightly, nor would they display in Google Chrome, they just showed a message saying "If the video doesn't start to play restart your device", and a reboot of Fedora didn't change anything. I've just upgraded to F37 via dnf and loaded the main page into Firefox Nightly and when I link to a page containing a video, the video now displays a blue twistie (play button) and continually spins on that button without playing anything, although it does seem to a cache some data. In both F36 and F37 when I load the main bookmarked page I have to do a reload before it will display anything. When I load the page into Google Chrome in F37, like in Firefox the page doesn't display the page body and unlike in Firefox it doesn't matter how many times I reload the page it doesn't display the page body. How do I determine what the issues are given that the same pages loaded into Firefox Nightly and Google Chrome in Windows display without any issues. I have no trouble playing youtube videos on f37 with nightly. So, my suggestion is to run nightly from a terminal so you can see what it is choking on. [invoke nightly] --new-instance --ProfileManager Set up a new profile that has no existing configuration. Then see what messages appear. I'll try that and see what happens, the one thing I can see with this is the indications that it is not working are different in F37 to what they were F36, F36 produced a message and F37 doesn't. I've noticed that the video does start to cache but not play, and I don't think it is a Firefox cache issue as I have it configured to empty cache on close. One thing with this relative to what you mentioned below is when I load the bookmarked page in Firefox nightly the page doesn't display and I have to click on the reload button for the page to actually display. What I don't understand at the moment is why the bookmarked page that has all the tutorial links to the page containing the videos refuses to display anything in Google Chrome, it doesn't matter how may times I click on the reload button it refuses to display. I *have* been having a weird issue with nightly for a few weeks, where it doesn't start, but hangs when I start it. I have found a workaround, but not a cause. I just invoke chromium, and as soon as it appears, I close it. Then the above command to start nightly works again. I assume there is some library that isn't being loaded properly, and the initiation of chromium loads it, and then nightly works too. I am using LXDE, which the package maintainer says is no longer being maintained properly, so that could be the issue. I've noticed that the menus have a different appearance recently, so some system library change could be responsible. I'm running Firefox nightly on KDE and I don't see this issue, and under linux I don't see the issue that I see in Firefox Nightly under windows, which is when there is an update to put on the startup of Firefox Nightly displays a white screen which gets closed, presumably because it has found there is an unapplied update, and then displays its normal interface. With the start issue you have, do you have the Gnome shell plugin installed that provides direct install functionality from Gnome-looks.org, etc? From what I can see the components that plugin requires are tied to Google Chrome, and it worked fine in Chrome but I had issues with it in Firefox Nightly getting it to recognise that those components were actually installed from the repositories, and from what I've seen that process seems to have changed recently in that the component in the repositories seem to have been superseded. I seem to remember seeing an update saying that a package being installed was replacing the original package. I haven't noticed any changes to the menus in Firefox Nightly, but then I haven't really taken a lot of notice of those as I haven't turned on the option to permanently display them. Another possibility is that mesa recently removed support for vaapi because of patent issues, and that you need the rpmfusion freeworld version to re-enable it. If you have rpmfusion enabled, dnf swap mesa-va-drivers mesa-va-drivers-freeworld I have rpmfusion enabled so I'll have a look at these and also look at the multimedia link that Greg has provided to see it that sheds any light on the issue. One issue might be that I used to have codec's installed that provided the necessary functionality but those codec are no longer installed, possibly because of re-installing F36 from scratch when I did my hardware upgrade and moved away from raid so that I could run Linux natively instead of in a VM. regards, Steve
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
> On 21 Nov 2022, at 22:15, Patrick O'Callaghan wrote: > > On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 14:51 -0500, Charles Dennett wrote: >> >> >>> On 11/21/22 14:19, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: >>> >>> Hi. >>> >>> On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:41:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? >>> >>> I see that too, and since at least f36. Haven't investigate at all >>> :-( >>> >> >> Yeah, I see that too. I think I've seen it for quite a while >> (several >> versions of Fedora I believe). It screams by at boot time and I've >> never bothered to investigate. Maybe some uninitialized memory? >> Following the bugzilla out of curiosity. > > I'm way out of my comfort zone here, but could it be related to KMS > (Kernel Mode-Setting): Unlikely. The console has been setup. The quality of the text is good, so it does not look like default low res vga. Barry > > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting > > poc > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
> On 21 Nov 2022, at 18:57, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:26:56 + > Barry wrote: > >> I would guess hardware problem. >> What GPU does the system have? >> >> can you share a screen shot somewhere showing the issue? > > There is a screen shot attached to the bugzilla. It would be > a very unusual hardware issue since it doesn't happen when I > boot fedora 36, but does when I boot fedora 37. The garbage > also appeared both before and after I installed the rpmfusion > nvidia drivers. Thanks i missed that when i read the bug. So i think its not a gpu issue. That is text being output to the console. Looks like it is in the initrd so the nvidia driver is not loaded yet i think. Is the gibberish always in the same place in the boot sequence? Is the gibberish the same each time? I checked on my rtx3060 and i do have the issue. I wonder if it effects only some nvidia cards? Barry > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On 22/11/22 07:24, greg wrote: On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:26 PM stan via users wrote: Another possibility is that mesa recently removed support for vaapi because of patent issues, and that you need the rpmfusion freeworld version to re-enable it. If you have rpmfusion enabled, dnf swap mesa-va-drivers mesa-va-drivers-freeworld For full instructions, please, see https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/Multimedia Thanks Greg, I'll have a look at that. regards, Steve greg ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On Mon, 2022-11-21 at 14:51 -0500, Charles Dennett wrote: > > > On 11/21/22 14:19, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > > > > Hi. > > > > On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:41:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > > > Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? > > > > I see that too, and since at least f36. Haven't investigate at all > > :-( > > > > Yeah, I see that too. I think I've seen it for quite a while > (several > versions of Fedora I believe). It screams by at boot time and I've > never bothered to investigate. Maybe some uninitialized memory? > Following the bugzilla out of curiosity. I'm way out of my comfort zone here, but could it be related to KMS (Kernel Mode-Setting): https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mode_setting poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Strange Error Message Issued Before Display of Themed Grub Menu
On 22/11/22 02:25, stan via users wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:54:49 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: Hi, I am getting the following error message displayed before the display of the grub boot menu, can someone explain to me what this means and why it is occurring in F37 when it was never produced in F36, and what I need to do to rectify it? error: ../../grub-core/kern/efi/sb.c:169:prohibited by secure boot policy I am running f37 and have nothing like sb.c or grub-core on my system. I am guessing that those are some customization that you have installed yourself? If so, my thought would be that the efi boot process security has been tightened, and that those are not included in the allowed boot policy. There seems to be an initiative to tighten the efi boot procedure so that it is verifiably unalterable from repo to the running system. This includes writing a 'measure' for all involved files and ensuring they pass a check of that 'measure' before they are used. I don't know how far this initiative has progressed, but you might be seeing some fallout from that. Those are not things I have installed myself as far as I am aware, they are a standard part of the grub environment installed as part of the fedora environment install. From what I can see on the net this error is not unusual in Fedora and Ubuntu and seems to be related to signing keys not being in the secure boot shim, but I haven't found detailed instructions on how to get them in there for grub, I've got detailed instructions for the akmod nvidia drivers on how to rectify the secure boot issues with compiling those. From what I can see around this issue on the net, around logic that is in that code, I would be guessing that sb.c is something that is installed in systems where full secureboot is active, as there seemed to be specifications in there on thing that were and weren't allowed in secure boot, but I didn't understand what linux components were being referenced by that logic. These issues seem to be tied to the fact that F37 is now booting with Grub and not with what F36 was booting with (possibly systemd?), and in F37 the grub-gfxmode statement in /etc/default/grub that worked fine in F36 does not work in F37 even though the associated statements are added to grub.cfg, they seem to be being ignored (I'm thinking about raising another thread on this issue). regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 5:26 PM stan via users wrote: > > Another possibility is that mesa recently removed support for vaapi > because of patent issues, and that you need the rpmfusion freeworld > version to re-enable it. If you have rpmfusion enabled, > dnf swap mesa-va-drivers mesa-va-drivers-freeworld For full instructions, please, see https://rpmfusion.org/Howto/Multimedia greg ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On 11/21/22 14:19, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: Hi. On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:41:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? I see that too, and since at least f36. Haven't investigate at all :-( Yeah, I see that too. I think I've seen it for quite a while (several versions of Fedora I believe). It screams by at boot time and I've never bothered to investigate. Maybe some uninitialized memory? Following the bugzilla out of curiosity. Charlie D. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
Hello, I have seen odd characters at shutdown, never looked much at start up, see the question I had posted on stackexchange: https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/718066/weird-characters-and-%C5%AB-at-shutdown TL;DR, I don't see them when I shutdown from a virtual terminal even if I have a graphical session running, so my guess is that it's null bytes and other garbage thrown when some graphical process or session does is not shut down cleanly. I tend to not see them if I shut down shortly after having booted. Not sure if you mean the same by random characters. Thomas On Mon, 21 Nov 2022, at 20:19, francis.montag...@inria.fr wrote: > Hi. > > On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:41:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: >> Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? > > I see that too, and since at least f36. Haven't investigate at all :-( > > -- > francis > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
Hi. On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 10:41:27 -0500 Tom Horsley wrote: > Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? I see that too, and since at least f36. Haven't investigate at all :-( -- francis ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:26:56 + Barry wrote: > I would guess hardware problem. > What GPU does the system have? > > can you share a screen shot somewhere showing the issue? There is a screen shot attached to the bugzilla. It would be a very unusual hardware issue since it doesn't happen when I boot fedora 36, but does when I boot fedora 37. The garbage also appeared both before and after I installed the rpmfusion nvidia drivers. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On 11/21/2022 12:23 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:14:22 + Barry wrote: I have multiple systems upgraded and do not see this. Suspect not one is looking but you. Is the binary stuff in the dmesg output as well? Doesn't seem to be, just shows up on the screen. I submitted a bugzilla just for the heck of it (but it does seem really low priority :-). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144563 I have an old machine running F36 that does the same thing. The only effect I have observed is that it is harder to follow what is taking place during the boot. I run grub2-mkconfig on that machine and have the rpmfusion nvidia drivers installed, so I thought it was probably related to one of those. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
> On 21 Nov 2022, at 17:24, Tom Horsley wrote: > > On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:14:22 + > Barry wrote: > >> I have multiple systems upgraded and do not see this. >> Suspect not one is looking but you. >> Is the binary stuff in the dmesg output as well? > > Doesn't seem to be, just shows up on the screen. I > submitted a bugzilla just for the heck of it (but > it does seem really low priority :-). I would guess hardware problem. What GPU does the system have? can you share a screen shot somewhere showing the issue? Barry > > https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144563 > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 17:14:22 + Barry wrote: > I have multiple systems upgraded and do not see this. > Suspect not one is looking but you. > Is the binary stuff in the dmesg output as well? Doesn't seem to be, just shows up on the screen. I submitted a bugzilla just for the heck of it (but it does seem really low priority :-). https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2144563 ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can't create msdos partition table without advanced partitioning?
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 11:56:52 -0500 Chris Murphy wrote: > I only advise doing this if there's a problem (firmware confusion) with GPT. I don't know if there would be a problem or not, I just wanted to do everything the way I always did it because the way I install fedora (to reduce down time) is by installing in a virtual machine then rsyncing the VM root partition to a "real" partition and editing all the uuid's and such. Maybe that would have worked fine with GPT as well, but I didn't want to risk it :-). Maybe I'll try it when fedora 38 comes around (I did finally switch to keyfiles instead of ifcfg scripts for fedora 37 and that worked OK). ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: It's a brick :-<(
> On 20 Nov 2022, at 22:45, Michael D. Setzer II wrote: > > Not always the case. Going back to the old DOS days, > believe the OS would try 3 times before giving the > abort/retry/ignore error message, and sometimes many > retires would get a good read... To clarify the drive will not substitute a good block after a bad block read. As you say tools like spinrite have smart algorithms in them to recover data in spite of errors by looking at pattern in the raw data come from the disk after multiple reads of the same block. Relies on the error patten changing to gives clues to the bits that are probable right I recall. Barry ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
> On 21 Nov 2022, at 15:41, Tom Horsley wrote: > > New f37 install. Turned off rhgb and quiet boot options. Now > interspersed with the "normal" boot messages, I get blocks > of strange gibberish characters spewed on the screen from time > to time, like something just wrote a bunch of random binary data. > > Doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it sure is strange. > > Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? I have multiple systems upgraded and do not see this. Suspect not one is looking but you. Is the binary stuff in the dmesg output as well? Barry > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can't create msdos partition table without advanced partitioning?
On Sat, Nov 19, 2022, at 9:18 PM, Tom Horsley wrote: > Installing fedora 37 from workstation live iso to a virtual machine. > > I couldn't find any way to partition a blank disk with a msdos > partition table without using the advanced manual partitioning. > Did I miss something, or is that the way it works now? Yeah it's in the change set but somehow is missing from the release notes. I've let docs folks know. https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Changes/GPTforBIOSbyDefault You can force MBR by using a boot parameter at boot time: inst.mbr I only advise doing this if there's a problem (firmware confusion) with GPT. -- Chris Murphy ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Something keeps creating Events.json in my home directory
On Mon, Nov 21, 2022 at 8:43 AM stan via users wrote: > This is just a snippet of code that stap will implement when you run it > on the file. I think the three ... are just markers to indicate the > code. As to where it should go, a file in your home directory is fine. > You would have to run the sudo stap events.stp in the directory where > it resides, or use a path to the executable. Or maybe > sudo stap -e events.stp > from what I can see in the manual. Yes, that's all exactly right. The three backticks are how python marks blocks of text. I've gotten into the habit of using those in emails to separate code from commentary. Sorry if that was confusing. So, yes, create events.stp anywhere, and pass the path to stap if it isn't in the current directory. -- Jerry James http://www.jamezone.org/ ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Youtube Videos Don't Play in Fedora
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:44:57 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: > Hi, > I have booked marked a support/tips page from the suppliers of > the Asus motherboard and the pages the main page links to contains > Youtube videos. The videos wouldn't play in Firefox Nightly, nor > would they display in Google Chrome, they just showed a message > saying "If the video doesn't start to play restart your device", and > a reboot of Fedora didn't change anything. > I've just upgraded to F37 via dnf and loaded the main page into > Firefox Nightly and when I link to a page containing a video, the > video now displays a blue twistie (play button) and continually spins > on that button without playing anything, although it does seem to a > cache some data. In both F36 and F37 when I load the main bookmarked > page I have to do a reload before it will display anything. > When I load the page into Google Chrome in F37, like in Firefox > the page doesn't display the page body and unlike in Firefox it > doesn't matter how many times I reload the page it doesn't display > the page body. How do I determine what the issues are given that the > same pages loaded into Firefox Nightly and Google Chrome in Windows > display without any issues. I have no trouble playing youtube videos on f37 with nightly. So, my suggestion is to run nightly from a terminal so you can see what it is choking on. [invoke nightly] --new-instance --ProfileManager Set up a new profile that has no existing configuration. Then see what messages appear. I *have* been having a weird issue with nightly for a few weeks, where it doesn't start, but hangs when I start it. I have found a workaround, but not a cause. I just invoke chromium, and as soon as it appears, I close it. Then the above command to start nightly works again. I assume there is some library that isn't being loaded properly, and the initiation of chromium loads it, and then nightly works too. I am using LXDE, which the package maintainer says is no longer being maintained properly, so that could be the issue. I've noticed that the menus have a different appearance recently, so some system library change could be responsible. Another possibility is that mesa recently removed support for vaapi because of patent issues, and that you need the rpmfusion freeworld version to re-enable it. If you have rpmfusion enabled, dnf swap mesa-va-drivers mesa-va-drivers-freeworld ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F37 XFCE bell – where to turn it off
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 07:18:33 -0500 Sam Varshavchik wrote: > After updating to F37, the new XFCE desktop appears to have > implemented the screen beep/bell function. The default beep/bell > audio is quite annoying, does anyone know where the setting for that > is, I can't find it. > > I tried doing > > xset b off > > But it's still barking at me. The xfce man pages have this settings editor, https://docs.xfce.org/xfce/xfce4-settings/editor It seems you aren't alone in your dislike of this 'feature'. https://unix.stackexchange.com/questions/214607/how-to-disable-beep-tone-in-xfce-when-the-delete-button-is-pressed ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Something keeps creating Events.json in my home directory
On Sun, 20 Nov 2022 23:47:19 -0800
Paul Allen Newell wrote:
> On 11/20/22 20:17, Jerry James wrote:
> > If you can't figure this out otherwise, here's a heavyweight
> > solution. Install the systemtap package. Run "sudo stap-prep".
> > Put this in a file named, say, events.stp, and replace ""
> > with your actual username:
> >
> > ```
> > probe vfs.open
> > {
> >if (pathname == "/home//events.json")
> > printf("events.json created by %s (pid %d, uid %d)\n",
> > execname(), pid(), uid())
> > }
> > ```
> >
> > That's crude, because it doesn't check that the file is opened in
> > create mode, but it will do for your case. Delete events.json, then
> > run "sudo stap events.stp". Come back later and see if it has
> > printed anything. If I run "touch events.json" in another shell,
> > for example, it prints:
> >
> > events.json created by touch (pid 39957, uid 1000)
> >
> > Press Ctrl-C to exit from stap when you are done.
>
> Jerry:
>
> Can you give a bit more info on this. Where does "events.stp" need to
> live and is the material in your ''' all that needs to be in the file
> (the use of ''' implies there is something else either before and/or
> after
This is from the stap man page:
The stap program is the front-end to the Systemtap tool. It accepts
probing instructions written in a simple domain-specific language,
translates those instructions into C code, compiles this C code, and
loads the resulting module into a running Linux kernel or a Dyninst
user-space mutator, to perform the requested system trace/probe
functions. You can supply the script in a named file (FILENAME),
from standard input (use - instead of FILENAME), or from the command
line (using -e SCRIPT). The program runs until it is interrupted by
the user, or if the script voluntarily invokes the exit() function, or
by sufficient number of soft errors.
This is just a snippet of code that stap will implement when you run it
on the file. I think the three ... are just markers to indicate the
code. As to where it should go, a file in your home directory is fine.
You would have to run the sudo stap events.stp in the directory where
it resides, or use a path to the executable. Or maybe
sudo stap -e events.stp
from what I can see in the manual.
Caveat: I haven't used stap, just got this from the extensive man page.
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blocks of random characters spewed during boot?
New f37 install. Turned off rhgb and quiet boot options. Now interspersed with the "normal" boot messages, I get blocks of strange gibberish characters spewed on the screen from time to time, like something just wrote a bunch of random binary data. Doesn't seem to hurt anything, but it sure is strange. Anyone looking at this, or is it too trivial to bother? ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Strange Error Message Issued Before Display of Themed Grub Menu
On Mon, 21 Nov 2022 18:54:49 +1100 Stephen Morris wrote: > Hi, > I am getting the following error message displayed before the > display of the grub boot menu, can someone explain to me what this > means and why it is occurring in F37 when it was never produced in > F36, and what I need to do to rectify it? > > error: ../../grub-core/kern/efi/sb.c:169:prohibited > by secure boot policy I am running f37 and have nothing like sb.c or grub-core on my system. I am guessing that those are some customization that you have installed yourself? If so, my thought would be that the efi boot process security has been tightened, and that those are not included in the allowed boot policy. There seems to be an initiative to tighten the efi boot procedure so that it is verifiably unalterable from repo to the running system. This includes writing a 'measure' for all involved files and ensuring they pass a check of that 'measure' before they are used. I don't know how far this initiative has progressed, but you might be seeing some fallout from that. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: F37 workstation live
On Sun, Nov 20, 2022, at 3:59 PM, Bill Cunningham wrote: > Hum. I believe this has to do with the new grub policy. I used > rufus's dd option to copy the live workstation iso to a USB. I have not yet tested F37 with it, but I really like this option: https://ventoy.net/en/index.html Once you setup the Ventoy USB stick you just copy .iso files to it. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
F37 XFCE bell – where to turn it off
After updating to F37, the new XFCE desktop appears to have implemented the screen beep/bell function. The default beep/bell audio is quite annoying, does anyone know where the setting for that is, I can't find it. I tried doing xset b off But it's still barking at me. pgpwTeBwDmbtY.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
F37 broke netupstools
After updating F37 nut is unhappy, spewing this every couple of seconds: Nov 21 06:48:28 monster.email-scan.com nut-server[1735]: Can't connect to UPS [nutdev1] (usbhid-ups-nutdev1): No such file or directory Interestingly enough, the XFCE desktop's panel has a widget that shows the UPS and its charged status. Today's project is to figure out what's broken, does anyone happen to know what's up with this, and save me some time? pgpqAZh_VAWJ6.pgp Description: PGP signature ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
Re: Can't create msdos partition table without advanced partitioning?
On Sun, 2022-11-20 at 22:23 +, Barry wrote: ... Please don't post in HTML, or if you must then include a text/plain version. See; htt:s://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines#No_HTML_Mail,_Please poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure/new_issue
