Re: My USB camera quits after 10 seconds. How do I troubleshoot it or get help ?

[linux guy]

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 11:07 PM Tim via users
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> Is the computer powering other things via its USB ports?
>
> Inadequate power is one potential cause for USB disconnects.  I'm not
> sure if the USB power negotiation is done entirely in the hardware, or
> if the OS has a say in the matter.

It is connected straight to a USB 2 port on the computer or the
laptop, depending on which I am using for testing.   No other devices
are connected.

> Discounting that potential cause, how many USB things are plugged in at
> once?  There could be some hardware conflict with the Linux drivers.

And where do I go to get help troubleshooting that ?
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Re: My USB camera quits after 10 seconds. How do I troubleshoot it or get help ?

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"Unless you keep unplugging it, it appears to be having a problem.  Are
you using it with windows on this same computer on the same port?"

Not with this log I'm not.   But my laptop dual boots F36 and Windows
10.  F36 freezes just like on this computer.  Windows 10 runs it fine.
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Re: My USB camera quits after 10 seconds. How do I troubleshoot it or get help ?

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etWindowAttributes), minor code: 0
Oct 17 14:14:32 workstation1 kwin_x11[2609]:
kwin_platform_x11_standalone: Compositing disabled: video driver seems
unstable. If you think it's a false positive, please remove
"OpenGLIsUnsafe"  from [Compositing] in kwinrc and restart kwin.
Oct 17 14:14:32 workstation1 kwin_x11[2609]: kwin_core: Compositing is
not possible
Oct 17 14:14:32 workstation1 plasmashell[2630]: qt.qpa.xcb:
QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 22752, resource
id: 119537666, major code: 3 (GetWindowAttributes), minor code: 0
Oct 17 14:14:32 workstation1 plasmashell[2630]: qt.qpa.xcb:
QXcbConnection: XCB error: 3 (BadWindow), sequence: 22753, resource
id: 119537666, major code: 2 (ChangeWindowAttributes), minor code: 0
Oct 17 14:14:34 workstation1 plasmashell[19468]: V4L2_CORE: (jpeg
decoder) error while decoding frame
Oct 17 14:15:23 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: USB disconnect, device number 12
Oct 17 14:15:23 workstation1 plasmashell[19468]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_QBUF) Unable to queue buffer 3: No such device
Oct 17 14:15:23 workstation1 plasmashell[19468]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 14:15:23 workstation1 plasmashell[19468]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 14:15:23 workstation1 plasmashell[19468]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device

On Mon, Oct 17, 2022 at 2:09 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:
>
> On 10/17/22 12:57, linux guy wrote:
> > Thanks for the reply.
> >
> > Here is the output when it fails.  The "Unable to dequeue buffer: no
> > such device" message happens hundreds of times.
> >
> > ...
> > Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
> > (VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
>
> There should have been some USB message before that started.
>
> > Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB
> > device number 10 using xhci_hcd
>
> It's resetting for some reason.  Here it reconnects.
>
> > Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: config 1 interface 0
> > altsetting 0 bulk endpoint 0x2 has invalid maxpacket 64
>
> That's interesting and might be relevant.
>
> Find the log lines before the dequeue errors start to see what happened.
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Re: My USB camera quits after 10 seconds. How do I troubleshoot it or get help ?

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Thanks for the reply.

Here is the output when it fails.  The "Unable to dequeue buffer: no
such device" message happens hundreds of times.

...
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 plasmashell[16214]: V4L2_CORE:
(VIDIOC_DQBUF) Unable to dequeue buffer: No such device
Oct 17 13:54:05 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: new high-speed USB
device number 10 using xhci_hcd
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: config 1 interface 0
altsetting 0 bulk endpoint 0x2 has invalid maxpacket 64
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device found,
idVendor=0603, idProduct=1002, bcdDevice= 0.10
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: New USB device strings:
Mfr=1, Product=2, SerialNumber=0
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: Product: Mobius
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: Manufacturer: C-DUTEK
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 kernel: usb 1-3: Found UVC 1.00 device
Mobius (0603:1002)
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 mtp-probe[16285]: checking bus 1, device
10: "/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/:01:00.0/usb1/1-3"
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 mtp-probe[16285]: bus: 1, device: 10 was
not an MTP device
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 systemd-udevd[16263]: 1-3:1.1: Process
'/usr/libexec/snapd/snap-device-helper bind snap_cups_cupsd
/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/:01:
00.0/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.1 0:0' failed with exit code 1.
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 systemd-udevd[16263]: 1-3:1.1: Process
'/usr/libexec/snapd/snap-device-helper bind snap_cups_ippeveprinter
/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/
:01:00.0/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.1 0:0' failed with exit code 1.
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 systemd-udevd[16264]: 1-3:1.0: Process
'/usr/libexec/snapd/snap-device-helper bind snap_cups_cupsd
/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/:01:
00.0/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.0 0:0' failed with exit code 1.
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 systemd-udevd[16264]: 1-3:1.0: Process
'/usr/libexec/snapd/snap-device-helper bind snap_cups_ippeveprinter
/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/
:01:00.0/usb1/1-3/1-3:1.0 0:0' failed with exit code 1.
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 mtp-probe[16298]: checking bus 1, device
10: "/sys/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/:01:00.0/usb1/1-3"
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 mtp-probe[16298]: bus: 1, device: 10 was
not an MTP device
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 systemd-udevd[16264]: 1-3: Process
'/usr/libexec/snapd/snap-device-helper bind snap_cups_cupsd
/devices/pci:00/:00:02.1/:01:00.0
/usb1/1-3 189:9' failed with exit code 1.
Oct 17 13:54:06 workstation1 systemd-udevd[16264]: 1-3: Process

My USB camera quits after 10 seconds. How do I troubleshoot it or get help ?

[linux guy]

I need to use Mobius 1 Action cameras in a project.

When I connect these cameras to VLC or guvcview they play correctly
for about 10 seconds and then freeze.They work properly in Windows
11.

How do I troubleshoot this issue or get someone from the appropriate
community to help me ?

Thanks
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Re: ocatve

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BTW... are you aware that VSCode has a bunch of Octave extensions for
writing, debugging and running Octave code ?

On Sun, Jan 23, 2022 at 3:29 PM linux guy  wrote:

> On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:50 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I fixed the issue (temporally!) by
>>  pip3 install sympy==1.5
>>
>> (be a user).
>>
>
> Excellent !  I knew it was just a dependency issue.
>
>
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Re: ocatve

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On Sat, Jan 22, 2022 at 6:50 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> I fixed the issue (temporally!) by
>  pip3 install sympy==1.5
>
> (be a user).
>

Excellent !  I knew it was just a dependency issue.
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Re: ocatve

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Yes, use pip (or pip3) to install sympy  It should install the dependencies
too.   Don't use the dnf packages for what you want to do.  I know it is
confusing.

I am NOT a Python or pip expert.  But I've run into similar errors and have
always tracked it down to something not being installed properly.  I'm not
sure which version of sympy that Octave is expecting - Python(2) or
Python3.  I've been tripped up before by having the wrong version of a
package installed.

Nothing against the excellent Fedora people here, but you might get more
help on https://www.reddit.com/r/octave/.
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Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

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On Fri, Jan 21, 2022 at 12:19 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:

> If you can define a task in a single line of text


I can define my tasks in a single command line.


> you could run
> something like this on the server:
>
> tail -f task_list.txt | while read -r spec; do run the task from
> $spec; done
>

Nice.

Put that in a tmux or screen session.
>
> Task submission is then just appending a spec to the text file:
>
> echo "specification here" >> task_list.txt
>

Love it.

Dumb as rocks, but effective. I've run simple workers like this.
>

I might build a nice wrapper around it, but that will work.

Probably "run the task from $spec" should invoke a shell script to run
> exactly one task collecting the output, logging the times etc.
>

I can redirect the task output to text files so I can check what happened
after the fact.

Thanks for the reply.
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Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

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Thought:  I'll write a simple one in nodejs and make the user interface a
webpage.  That way I can log into the webpage from anywhere and check on
the status of my simulations as well as add and delete them.

I'm not running a cluster.   Just my little ole server.

Thoughts ?
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Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

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Is there anything simpler than Torque ?
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Re: Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

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Thanks for the replies, I'll look into the mentioned packages.

I have never heard of Torque.
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Re: ocatve

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On Thu, Jan 20, 2022 at 5:01 AM Patrick Dupre  wrote:

> Hello,
>
> When I run octave with
>
> pkg load symbolic
> and
> syms x
> I
> get
> Symbolic pkg v2.9.0: Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 28, in 
> AttributeError: '_PrintFunction' object has no attribute '__globals__'
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "", line 1, in 
>   File "", line 12, in octoutput_drv
>   File "", line 54, in octoutput
>   File "", line 55, in octoutput
> AttributeError: module 'sympy' has no attribute 'compatibility'
> Closing the Python communications link.
>

> error: Python exception: AttributeError: '_PrintFunction' object has no
> attribute '__globals__'
> occurred in python_header import block.
> Try "sympref reset" and repeat your command?
> (consider filing an issue at https://github.com/cbm755/octsympy/issues
> )
> error: called from
> pycall_sympy__ at line 191 column 5
> valid_sym_assumptions at line 38 column 10
> assumptions at line 82 column 7
> syms at line 97 column 13
>
> It seems that it is an identified bug, due to sympy
>

How is sympy installed on your computer ?

Which versions of Python are installed on your computer ?  Which version is
invoked when you are running Octave ?

Kudos to you for using Octave instead of Mathlab.
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Interactive task scheduling (system) ? How do I run a list of tasks consecutively on a server ?

[linux guy]

Hi people.

I'm using a server to run a bunch of simulations.  By bunch I mean
hundreds.  Each simulation takes from 10 minutes to 10 hours to run.  All
of the simulations are run from the command line.  Every day I generate
more simulation cases.

I'm looking for a method/system/app that I can give a list of tasks that
will run them on the server, automatically, one after another.

How could I do this ?

Thanks
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Re: Where is PATH stored these days ? Why isn't .bash_profile executed in F35 ?

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Comments below.  Thanks for such a comprehensive answer.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:13 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:

> On 11Jan2022 14:15, linux guy  wrote:
> >I'm trying to add a few directories to PATH in F35.  I'm embarrassed to
> >admit it isn't going well.
> >
> >Where is PATH stored in F35 ?
>
> In your processes' memory. Unhelpful. But it is _initialised_ by your
> login sequence. Yes, being pedantic here.
>

Ha.


> >When exactly does .bash_profile get executed ?
>
> 1: Is your shell bash? (My interactive shell is zsh, by contrast.)
> Echoing $SHELL should confirm bash for you, or looking in /etc/passwd.
>

Yes, bash.



> 2: .bash_profile (or .profile, if the former is missing) gets run by
> _login_ shells.
>

Good to know.


On a text based terminal (eg the Linux console without a GUI), your
> login runs a login shell.
>
> In a GUI such as a desktop the situation is more complicated:
>
> - the GUI startup does not automatically run a login shell (to some
>   extend because interaction or mistakes can then easily break the GUI
>   startup).
>

Interesting.

- when you start a terminal it may or may not run a login shell; this
>   can be controlled with the settings for your terminal emulator. What
>   are you using?
>

Konsole.  According to its settings, it runs /bin/bash when it starts up.

Shells usually have a login and nonlogin startup mode - for bash this
> loosely means a login shell sources the .bash_profile (or.profile) on
> startup, and nonlogin interactive shells source the .bashrc.


OK, so there is my issue.   ~/ does not have a .bashrc.   I has
.bash_profile only.


> The specifics vary for other shells (eg zsh) but the idea's the same. The
> exact process for bash is explained in tedious details in "man bash".
>

RTFM !  RTFMP !  OK.


> The basic idea is/was that you'd put expensive stuff which only needed
> to happen once in the .bash_profile (setting $PATH, consulting some
> summary information, etc) and interactive-useful stuff in your .bashrc
> (setting interaction modes like command line editing, defining aliases,
> etc).
>

Makes sense.


> These days you can often get away with making every new terminal run a
> login shell. Look into that setting first up - it is the easiest fix.
>

Doesn't appear to be editable in Konsole, though maybe I could specify it
as a parameter to /bin/bash that gets executed at startup.  Haven't tried
that yet.


> I discourage you from polluting your .bashrc with complexity. Though a
> lot of distros prepollute it for you (have a look at /etc/bashrc, often
> a nightmare of complexity).
>

Mine is pretty clean.


> Personally, I keep my environment setting stuff in a distinct script,
> which I source from my .profile. Here's my .profile:
>
> #!/bin/sh
> umask 002
> [ -f $HOME/rc-local/profile ] && . $HOME/rc-local/profile
> : ${SHDIR:=$HOME/rc/shell}
> . $SHDIR/rigenv
> LUSER=$USER; export LUSER
> . $HOME/rc/shell/rc
>
> Setting $PATH (and a billion other things) is done in the "rigenv"
> script mentioned above.
>

OK.

Here is my .bashrc:

#
# .bashrc

# Source global definitions
if [ -f /etc/bashrc ]; then
   . /etc/bashrc
fi

# User specific environment
if ! [[ "$PATH" =~ "$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:" ]]
then
   PATH="$HOME/.local/bin:$HOME/bin:$PATH"
fi
export PATH

# Uncomment the following line if you don't like systemctl's auto-paging
feature:
# export SYSTEMD_PAGER=

# User specific aliases and functions
if [ -d ~/.bashrc.d ]; then
   for rc in ~/.bashrc.d/*; do
   if [ -f "$rc" ]; then
   . "$rc"
   fi
   done
fi

unset rc

#


Here is my .bash_profile:



# .bash_profile
# Get the aliases and functions
if [ -f ~/.bashrc ]; then
   . ~/.bashrc
fi
# User specific environment and startup programs
# empty right now.

#



>
> >How does one get the bash environment reloaded without logging out and
> >logging in ?   $source  ?  $exec bash ?  ./bash ?
>
> If your terminals run login shells, opening a new terminal will do. For
> that terminal, of course.
>
> Or you can source your .profile (or separate script):
>
> . ~/.bash_profile
>

Right.  This doesn't seem to be working for me.


>$env should include everything in .bash_profile, right ?
>
> "env" shows the expor

Re: More memory

[linux guy]

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:56 PM Robert Moskowitz 
wrote:

> In a couple days, I will see the swap usage grow.  Until I Quit firefox,
> then restart with all the old windows opening.
>
> But I really never exit Firefox unless forced to.
>

TabSessionManager is your friend.  Look for it in AddOns.

What version of FF are you running ?
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Re: More memory

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I have 75 Windows with 550 tabs.  Across 5 desktops and 4 activities.   My
machine has 64GB of RAM.   It is always responsive.
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Re: More memory

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 top -b -n 1 > top.txt
Not sure why the CPU% ages are so high.  Webpages normally take only a 10%
or so per page.

GeckoMain = FF main thread.
Isolated Web C0 = various web pages.

top - 14:55:15 up 6 days, 16:01, 10 users,  load average: 5.78, 6.13, 3.77
Tasks: 538 total,   1 running, 537 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
%Cpu(s): 80.7 us,  1.0 sy,  0.0 ni, 17.8 id,  0.0 wa,  0.5 hi,  0.0 si,
 0.0 st
MiB Mem :  64273.9 total,  19031.3 free,  30313.6 used,  14928.9 buff/cache
MiB Swap:   8192.0 total,   8192.0 free,  0.0 used.  30195.3 avail Mem

   PID USER  PR  NIVIRTRESSHR S  %CPU  %MEM TIME+
COMMAND
559812 me20   0 9390852   5.1g 132812 S 337.5   8.1 331:58.36
Isolated Web Co
559936 me20   0 6194244   2.4g 142088 S 237.5   3.8 104:34.23
Isolated Web Co
560076 me20   0 6328896   2.6g 141168 S 225.0   4.1  67:50.76
Isolated Web Co
562804 me20   0 5983464   2.1g 142608 S 100.0   3.3  57:26.30
Isolated Web Co
  2159 me20   0 4713052   1.1g 983528 S  31.2   1.8   2470:30
kwin_x11
559129 me20   0   22.8g   6.8g   2.6g S  12.5  10.9 526:53.93
GeckoMain
575656 me20   0 4774780 975436 173984 S  12.5   1.5  40:15.65
Isolated Web Co
  1866 me20   0 5299356   3.3g   2.3g S   6.2   5.2 421:14.24 Xorg
  2694 me 9 -11  390944  65388   9260 S   6.2   0.1  53:04.65
pipewire
  2696 me 9 -11  802360 398056   7464 S   6.2   0.6 161:27.93
pipewire-pulse
559410 me20   0 4338412 545064 147552 S   6.2   0.8  43:09.37
Isolated Web Co
559810 me20   0 3994248 553608 106156 S   6.2   0.8   9:23.27
Isolated Web Co
615816 me20   0 2787544 149608  93300 S   6.2   0.2   2:24.82
Isolated Web Co
681104 me20   0 4324832 525040 153568 S   6.2   0.8  19:38.53
Isolated Web Co
763376 me20   0 2810896 159488  96568 S   6.2   0.2   0:14.92
Isolated Web Co
876107 me20   0  977220 118692  98332 S   6.2   0.2   0:02.95
konsole



On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:51 PM Roger Heflin  wrote:

> If you have too many tabs open on some badly behaved websites firefox
> will eat all of your ram.
>
> weather.com is a good one, leave it setting for a few days open and
> that tab will use up the ram.  It seems ok on my bigger machines
> (32gb) but is a real issue on the machine with 10gb.
>
> My 10gb ram machine was civilized by the earlyoom process that kills
> the process running the badly behaving tabs and using too much ram.
>
> On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 3:35 PM John Mellor  wrote:
> >
> > What on earth are you doing in Firefox and Thunderbird to use that
> > swap?  I have multiple 8GB machines running the same Fedora, Firefox and
> > Thunderbird, and virtually never get into swap at all.  Two the these
> > machines are also Lenovo.  This makes no sense, so there must be
> > something else hogging all that memory. Do a top and sort by RSS and see
> > what the real problem app is.
> >
> > --
> >
> > John Mellor
> >
> >
> > On 2022-01-11 12:30 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > > The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be
> > > not enough.
> > >
> > > $ free
> > >totalusedfree  shared buff/cache
> > > available
> > > Mem: 7380668 6930852  2626761492 187140
> > > 221144
> > > Swap:   241571761204409612113080
> > >
> > >
> > > Firefox seems to be a bit part of the problem.   I quit it and see:
> > >
> > > $ free
> > >totalusedfree  shared buff/cache
> > > available
> > > Mem: 7380668 5146100 17768401364 457728
> > > 1948864
> > > Swap:   24157176 527095618886220
> > >
> > > I am running a VM at 2Gb and a couple of Thunderbird sessions. Closing
> > > these TB and waiting a while I drop down to
> > >
> > > $ free
> > >totalusedfree  shared buff/cache
> > > available
> > > Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396   16228 2480488
> > > 3272716
> > > Swap:   24157176 242295621734220
> > >
> > >
> > > but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at
> > > hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of
> > > memory and swapping like crazy.  Probably bad for my SSD drive.
> > >
> > > So how to get to 16GB memory?
> > >
> > > What follows the x140e in the 12" format?  I can't figure this out
> > > from basic Lenovo sales stuff.  Probably going to have to find a
> > > Lenovo forum to get the info.
> > >
> > > But CompuRAM in UK says they can support up to 32GB on the x140e using
> > > "newer SO-DIMM chips".  Crucial only sells 4GB for the x140e.
> > >
> > > Anyone have any knowledge on this?  Other than booting and getting
> > > into settings, how do I figure out my bios version?  And to see if
> > > Lenovo has a newer one that probably CompuRAM is counting on?
> > >
> > > Any US memory sources that will support more memory for the x140e? I
> > > really don't 

Re: More memory

[linux guy]

Firefox uses a lot of RAM if you have a lot of windows/tabs open.

Another way to see how much memory FF is using is to do an
about:performance in the URL field.

A bare minimum hardware spec for me these days is 16GB of RAM.  I purchased
a laptop this summer and bumped that to 32 GB.   My desktop machine has 64
GB.

I am a heavy user of FF.

On Tue, Jan 11, 2022 at 2:35 PM John Mellor  wrote:

> What on earth are you doing in Firefox and Thunderbird to use that
> swap?  I have multiple 8GB machines running the same Fedora, Firefox and
> Thunderbird, and virtually never get into swap at all.  Two the these
> machines are also Lenovo.  This makes no sense, so there must be
> something else hogging all that memory. Do a top and sort by RSS and see
> what the real problem app is.
>
> --
>
> John Mellor
>
>
> On 2022-01-11 12:30 p.m., Robert Moskowitz wrote:
> > The specs for my Lenovo x140e is 8GB, which I have and it seems to be
> > not enough.
> >
> > $ free
> >totalusedfree  shared buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem: 7380668 6930852  2626761492 187140
> > 221144
> > Swap:   241571761204409612113080
> >
> >
> > Firefox seems to be a bit part of the problem.   I quit it and see:
> >
> > $ free
> >totalusedfree  shared buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem: 7380668 5146100 17768401364 457728
> > 1948864
> > Swap:   24157176 527095618886220
> >
> > I am running a VM at 2Gb and a couple of Thunderbird sessions. Closing
> > these TB and waiting a while I drop down to
> >
> > $ free
> >totalusedfree  shared buff/cache
> > available
> > Mem: 7380668 3751784 1148396   16228 2480488
> > 3272716
> > Swap:   24157176 242295621734220
> >
> >
> > but really the bottom line is I need more memory for the tasks at
> > hand.  Firefox has all these weird processes running eating up lots of
> > memory and swapping like crazy.  Probably bad for my SSD drive.
> >
> > So how to get to 16GB memory?
> >
> > What follows the x140e in the 12" format?  I can't figure this out
> > from basic Lenovo sales stuff.  Probably going to have to find a
> > Lenovo forum to get the info.
> >
> > But CompuRAM in UK says they can support up to 32GB on the x140e using
> > "newer SO-DIMM chips".  Crucial only sells 4GB for the x140e.
> >
> > Anyone have any knowledge on this?  Other than booting and getting
> > into settings, how do I figure out my bios version?  And to see if
> > Lenovo has a newer one that probably CompuRAM is counting on?
> >
> > Any US memory sources that will support more memory for the x140e? I
> > really don't want to deal with overseas shipping and support.
> >
> > And back to the "newer" hardware question on 140 followon.
> >
> > thanks for any input.  All this swapping is taking time when I really
> > have to wait for the system to bring in what is needed and things to
> > start working.
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Re: sudo / su with GUI apps - ?

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For root run GUI apps in KDE, I use kdesu.
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Re: Easy way to keep my F35 laptop and desktop computers perfectly sync'd. Rsync ?

[linux guy]

On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 2:32 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:

> I used to maintain a small fleet of RedHat servers, and had a couple of
> scripts for package comparison:
>

Thanks for the reply.

I took a closer look at the use cases on my laptop and my workstation and
decided against keeping them sync'd.   While it is a headache to have them
unsync'd and have to manually transfer files and individually install
things, the use cases are just different enough that it doesn't work to
keep them entirely sync'd.   At this point in time, anyway.

Should I revisit the need to keep 2 computer sync'd, I'll refer to the
advice in your post.
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Where is PATH stored these days ? Why isn't .bash_profile executed in F35 ?

[linux guy]

I'm trying to add a few directories to PATH in F35.  I'm embarrassed to
admit it isn't going well.

Where is PATH stored in F35 ?

When exactly does .bash_profile get executed ?

How does one get the bash environment reloaded without logging out and
logging in ?   $source  ?  $exec bash ?  ./bash ?

What gets executed upon logging out and logging back in, versus opening a
new terminal (with Konsole) ?

$env should include everything in .bash_profile, right ?

Why doesn't F35 have ~/.profile or ~/.bashrc and instead has
~/.bash_profile ?  Does .bash_profile replace .bashrc and .profile ?  Would
bash read .profile if I created one ?  If so, when ?

What happened to .inputrc ?

Thanks
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Re: Easy way to keep my F35 laptop and desktop computers perfectly sync'd. Rsync ?

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On Fri, Dec 17, 2021 at 2:32 PM Cameron Simpson  wrote:

> 
>

Thanks for the detailed reply.   I'll look into it over the weekend.
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Easy way to keep my F35 laptop and desktop computers perfectly sync'd. Rsync ?

[linux guy]

Hi people.

These days I find myself constantly going back and forth between working on
my laptop and working on my desktop computer.  It is very tiring setting up
the same applications twice, moving files back and forth etc.

I would like to find a way to keep my laptop and desktop computers
perfectly sync'd.   Same applications installed, same setup, same files,
everything.

They are both running F35.  Ideally I'd have a script that I would execute
from either machine that would bring it up to date with the other machine.
So I'd log into a machine, run the script and instantly be at the same
place I was with the other machine.  Like I was working on the new machine
all along.

Thoughts on how to do this ?

Thanks
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Re: Hints, tips and advice on restoring data deleted (rm -rf !) from a Fedora 35 LVM ?

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I tried a bunch of tools.  The results were interesting.  I'll update the
group when I get caught up with things.
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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# hdparm -Tt /dev/sda
/dev/sda:
Timing cached reads:   30886 MB in  2.00 seconds = 15463.41 MB/sec
Timing buffered disk reads: 1046 MB in  3.01 seconds = 348.01 MB/sec
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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Update.

The  USB flash drive I chose (Kingston Data Traveler Exodia, 256GB) was
horrendously slow.  How slow ?  I did the install on an old machine.  It
took forever.  Like an hour.  I thought it was the machine, even though it
has a USB 3.1 port.  This morning I moved to a faster machine and attempted
to do a dnf update on the install.   Again, horrendously slow.  It came to
a complete stop.  I CTRL C'd the update and headed back to my local
computer hardware store.

I chose that particular flash drive because it features USB 3.2 Gen 1
capability and a 5 year warranty !

I replaced the Kingston flash drive with a Western Digital Blue SN550 M.2
NVMe SS, 500GB.  Because it was the right size, on sale and I thought that
a faster SSD would just further overwhelm the USB interface.  Also this SSD
apparently draws less current then some other faster ones and apparently
current draw can be an issue with USB to M.2 SSD adapters.

I mounted the NVMe SSD in a Vantec M.2 NVMe SSD to USB 3.1 Gen 2 type C
external enclosure.  (NST-205C3-SG) I chose this enclosure because it has
heat fins to dissipate the head generated by the SSD.  In fact, this
enclosure has a heat sink that gets installed on the SSD that contacts the
case.  From my reading, heat buildup can be a problem for NVMe SSDs running
in an enclosure like this.

Result: fantastic operating speed !   It is obviously not as fast as
operating on the native OS, but operating from the USB SSD is darn snappy.
I'm used to doing maintenance work with a slow Live USB drive.  THis USB
SSD is a fast Cadillac compared to them.  I am now very happy with my
"maintenance" drive.   I should have done this years ago.

The drive gets warm to the touch during regular use, but nothing alarming
so far.

Aside

An interesting thing happened when I installed F35 on the USB SSD drive
using the Live USB drive :  it chose a plain old file system instead of LVM.

$ df -h
Filesystem  Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
devtmpfs 32G 0   32G   0% /dev
tmpfs32G 0   32G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs13G  1.9M   13G   1% /run
/dev/sda3   465G  4.7G  459G   1% /
tmpfs32G   24K   32G   1% /tmp
/dev/sda3   465G  4.7G  459G   1% /home
/dev/sda2   974M  198M  709M  22% /boot
/dev/sda1   599M   14M  585M   3% /boot/efi
tmpfs   6.3G  144K  6.3G   1% /run/user/1000
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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Bug filed with Fedora:  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2024430

DNF developers notified:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf-plugins-extras/issues/200
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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The USB flash recovery OS is extremely slow compared to a Live OS.  It is
slow even when I ssh into it and not run a window manager.   Why ?   What
can I change to make it faster ?
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

[linux guy]

Thanks for all the advice.

How does one use a discarded NVME SSD drive ?  If it is SATA, put it in an
external enclosure ?

I installed F35 Workstation on a 256GB USB3 flash drive.  It boots and
works, but it is slower than the Live version.   Why would that be ?

Are there any special settings I should use because the OS is installed on
a flash drive ?Swap ?  I/O ?
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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Your comment spurred me to use a 256GB USB flash drive instead of the WD
spinning drive.  256 GB is large enough to do a couple system installs and
multi boot them as well as a bit of data backup.If I need more data
backup than 256 GB provides, I can mount a spinning drive or even a network
drive and back up to that.

I should have done this a long time ago.  There have been many instances
where I've used Live drives when I should have built a maintenance drive.
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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Thank you, Tom.   This is exactly why I ask the group questions like this.
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Re: Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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I'm thinking of using a Western Digital 2TB USB3.2 with a Type A
connector.  I assume that I can partition and format it to work as a
bootable OS ?
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Building a USB maintenance drive instead of using Live USB drives ?

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>From time to time I need to do maintenance on Linux computers that involves
booting an OS other than the one installed on the machine.  Currently I
have 2 computers that need such attention.

In the past I've used Live bootable USB drives.  They have a number of
limitations including:

- they use Gnome.  I'm a KDE guy.
- they lack many of the tools I need - gparted, etc.
- they don't support persistence, so every time I boot with them I'm
running a script to get everything set up to where I was the last time I
booted.

One can supposedly make Live USB images persistent, but 1) it didn't work
when I tried it and 2) there are limitations, including that do a major
upgrade to the Live installation.  (ie, no dnf updates)

So... I'm thinking of installing Fedora35 for real on a USB drive and then
using that for my maintenance work.   Has anyone done this ?  Tips ?
Tricks ?  Advice ?

I'm specifically wondering about setting up partitions on a USB device.
Same as a SATA device ?  Anything special about booting a USB device
instead of a SATA or NVME device ?

Thanks.
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Hints, tips and advice on restoring data deleted (rm -rf !) from a Fedora 35 LVM ?

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As you can read about in another thread, the home directories on one of my
Fedora 35 computers were deleted using rm -rf.   These directories are
located on an EXT4 LVM.

How should I proceed to try to restore this data ?

Thanks
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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> > Except that this is a very different case.  You're not telling dnf where
> > it can create its own directory.  You are saying "this is your
> > directory, use it".
>

Yes, use it.  But don't destroy data in it that the app didn't create !  rm
-rf ?  Really ? That is a lot strong handed.

Yes, you have a point. It's a much better argument, than "it could,
> because it did". I still think the prudent (and simple) thing is to
> create a subdirectory and wipe that. Or at least put a scary warning
> in the documentation.
>

Why didn't dnf create its own sub dir within the given directory and then
just wipe that ?  Absolutely no chance of destroying user data if you do
that.
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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Bug filed with Fedora:  https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=2024430

Developers notified:
https://github.com/rpm-software-management/dnf-plugins-extras/issues/200
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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Sorry, the use of #rm -rf like that is unacceptable.  The developer knows
what directories s/he created.  No need to do an rm -rf and kill everything
on the directory tree from there down.  That is overkill and dangerous.
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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At least WARN the user, either in the man page or on the command line or
both that you are about to destroy data.
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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Sorry, I've been using Redhat/Fedora for 20 years.  Never once lost data
like this.  This is bad programming, period !

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 9:15 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 11/17/21 6:45 PM, linux guy wrote:
> > Any chance I can recover the files ?
>
> I very seriously doubt it because in Linux, gone is gone.  I hope I'm
> wrong here, but this is why you should never upgrade your system without
> first backing up your /home and anything else you consider important.
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

[linux guy]

Just confirmed the dnf system-upgrade probably does a rm-rf on the
"download" dir.

>From dnf-plugins-extras/plugins/system_upgrade.py:

===
def clear_dir(path):
if not os.path.isdir(path):
return

for entry in os.listdir(path):
fullpath = os.path.join(path, entry)
try:
if os.path.isdir(fullpath):
dnf.util.rm_rf(fullpath)
else:
os.unlink(fullpath)
except OSError:
pass


Guess what dnf.util.rm_rf does !   I'm guessing #rm -rf !  Which explains
where my home directories went !

This is crazy coding !
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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"And the "rm" man page also does not warn what would happen if one enters
"rm -rf /home"."

Sorry, not the same context.   Giving an app a directory to use does not
allow the app to delete data it didn't create.
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

[linux guy]

"'I'm not surprised.  You just told dnf that /home was its working
directory, so it can do whatever it wants with it.  It's going to want
to clean it out so only the relevant files are there."

Sorry, I did not give dnf the right to delete files it did not create in
that directory.Note that it also wiped sub directories, which I did not
agree to.

Here is what the man page says:

" --downloaddir=, --destdir=
 Redirect  downloaded  packages to provided directory. The
option has to be used to‐
 gether with the --downloadonly command  line  option,  with
 the  download  command
 (dnf-plugins-core) or with the system-upgrade command
(dnf-plugins-extras)."

No warnings about wiping other data !
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Re: dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

[linux guy]

Or maybe the home directory isn't getting mounted to /home ?

On Wed, Nov 17, 2021 at 6:45 PM linux guy  wrote:

> dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home
> dir... !
>
> So... went to do an upgrade to Fedora 35 and found that I was lacking room
> for the downloads.   I have /home set up on a separate drive, so I did the
> following:
>
> dnf system-upgrade download --downloaddir=/home --releasever=35
>
> The upgrade went well, except when I rebooted into F35 I couldn't log into
> my home directory.  So I rebooted and logged into a console session.  When
> I did, I got an error message stating that /home/ was missing.   ls
> /home showed me that all my home directories are missing.
>
> I'm guessing that dnf downloaded all the packages for the upgrade to /home
> and then did a rm -rf * on them, taking out my home directories in the
> process.  Can someone confirm this ?
>
> Any chance I can recover the files ?
>
> I am beyond angry that this happened.  I've been using Fedora forever.
> I'm sure I've used --downloaddir before without this happening.
>
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dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home dir !

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dnf upgrade to Fedora 35 using --downloaddir just wiped out my entire home
dir... !

So... went to do an upgrade to Fedora 35 and found that I was lacking room
for the downloads.   I have /home set up on a separate drive, so I did the
following:

dnf system-upgrade download --downloaddir=/home --releasever=35

The upgrade went well, except when I rebooted into F35 I couldn't log into
my home directory.  So I rebooted and logged into a console session.  When
I did, I got an error message stating that /home/ was missing.   ls
/home showed me that all my home directories are missing.

I'm guessing that dnf downloaded all the packages for the upgrade to /home
and then did a rm -rf * on them, taking out my home directories in the
process.  Can someone confirm this ?

Any chance I can recover the files ?

I am beyond angry that this happened.  I've been using Fedora forever.  I'm
sure I've used --downloaddir before without this happening.
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Re: Fedora 34/KDE/Plasma desktop wallpaper showing through application windows ?

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On Wed, Sep 1, 2021 at 8:03 AM Ian Pilcher  wrote:

>
> Yes.  I've seen the semi-transparent ghost window issue.  I don't have a
> reproducer, though, so I haven't dug into it.
>
> X11 on an old ATI GPU if it matters.
>

I'm running X11 too.

It happened to me today with a Firefox window.  I restarted Firefox by
killing the Firefox process.   When I did that, the Firefox ghost window
disappeared.  I'm wondering if it has something to do with a shutdown
process that doesn't complete enough to erase (or destroy) its window
object.
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Re: Weird keyboard problem

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On Mon, Aug 16, 2021 at 4:29 AM Frederic Muller  wrote:

>
> Are there any reliable ways to troubleshoot and pinpoint where the issue
> could be coming from?
>

Open up a command line session and test it there.  Plug the keyboard into a
different computer, with a different OS.
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Re: Fedora 34/KDE/Plasma desktop wallpaper showing through application windows ?

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I just noticed something.   If I open a new window, it isn't transparent.
If I move it around, it is transparent when I'm moving it.   Apparently
some windows are staying transparent after they've been moved.

Early this week I had a couple windows that stayed as ghosts after they
were closed.
Anyone else having these issues ?
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Fedora 34/KDE/Plasma desktop wallpaper showing through application windows ?

[linux guy]

Hi.
Fedora 34 / KDE / Plasma.  Everything works great except that I can see the
Fedora 34 desktop wallpaper patterns in my application windows.  The
desktop wallpaper is "bleeding through", like the application windows are
transparent.

How do I fix this ?   Is it an effect in Settings ?

Hardware:  Asus A17 4800H with integrated GPU as well as a discrete
GTX1660Ti.

$ uname -a
Linux fedora 5.13.12-200.fc34.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Aug 18 13:27:18 UTC 2021
x86_64 x86_64 x86
_64 GNU/Linux

Installed Packages
plasma-breeze.x86_645.22.4-1.fc34   @updates

Thanks.

Fedora rocks !
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Re: GPU switching without custom kernels on ASUS AMD hybrid GPU laptops ? asusctl...

[linux guy]

On Thu, Aug 26, 2021 at 4:07 AM Patrick O'Callaghan 
wrote:

>
> That looks interesting, but the link shows no description, not even a
> README. Is this specifically for AMD chipsets or is it more general?
>

Like I said previously, this is alpha quality software.   Not even beta at
this point.   I'm just happy that I can switch GPUs at this point.   I sent
the author the commands that I used to build it.   I'm sure he'll ship a
README at some point.

As far as supergfxctl, I suspect that the GPU switching will work with both
Intel and AMD processors on a variety of laptops.  Intel based laptops are
doing hybrid GPU setups as well.

As far as asusctl, I suspect that is more focused on Asus laptops.
However, I suspect that the components he's controlling and the devices are
used in other laptops.

My ASUS TUF A17 is my first new laptop in a long time.  Laptops have  come
a long, long way recently.   The 4800H is as fast as my desktop 3600X and
the GTX 1660Ti is faster than the GTX 1060 also in my desktop computer.
All this with decent battery life, especially when running with the iGPU
and good keyboard and touchpad.  The display isn't super color or
brightness wise, but the matte finish is excellent for reading text.   I'm
very happy with this machine.
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Re: GPU switching without custom kernels on ASUS AMD hybrid GPU laptops ? asusctl...

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Update

I got GPU switching by downloading and building this utility:
https://gitlab.com/asus-linux/supergfxctl
It does not require a custom kernel.  The author just uploaded it.  There
were a few dependency issues and the daemon did not automatically install.
But the author helped me troubleshoot that stuff on Discord and we got it
working.

He mentioned he plans to release it to various distros once it is tested a
bit.

Upon switching to the NVIDIA dGPU, I found that I had the same issues
driving my 4K monitor - twinkling pixels and the display blanking out every
10s or so.   I solved this problem by dropping the frame rate from 60Hz to
30Hz. Not sure why this was happening or why dropping the frame rate fixed
it.  I was using a brand new HDMI cable and driving it (LG 43UD79) with its
60Hz HDMI port.

Anyway, I can now switch GPUs at will and once again use my large
display.
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GPU switching without custom kernels on ASUS AMD hybrid GPU laptops ? asusctl...

[linux guy]

I recently purchased an ASUS A17 laptop with an AMD 4800H processor. Of
course I immediately installed Fedora 34 on it.  Everything works well out
of the box... except GPU switching.

The ASUS A17 comes with 2 GPUs.  GPU0 is the integrated GPU (iGPU) on the
4800H processor.  GPU1 is a discrete NVIDIA GTX1660Ti GPU. (dGPU)

My laptop is currently running with iGPU using AMD drivers under X11.  I'm
not a gamer.  It works well for driving the 1920x1080 laptop screen but
will not drive an external 4K monitor without blanking out.

I installed the proprietary NVIDIA drivers using akmod from the RPMFusion
repository.   lsmod shows both AMD and NVIDIA drivers installed on my
machine.

There is a utility for controlling a number of ASUS hardware features
called asusctl.
https://asus-linux.org/asusctl/

I'd rather not use this utility because it relies on custom kernels.  I'd
like my kernels to come straight from the Fedora repositories.

I'm OK with rebooting to swap GPUs.   In laptop mode I'm fine using the
iGPU.  When I'm at my desktop, I need to use the dGPU to drive my external
monitor.

Is there an (easy) way to set up grub to blacklist one driver or the other
at boot time in order that the other driver can run and thus use the
desired GPU ?  Right now I'm blacklisting nouveau.  Could I also create
grub entries to blacklist the AMD or NVIDIA driver ?

Any other thoughts on doing this ?

Thanks

# lsmod | grep amd
edac_mce_amd   32768  0
kvm_amd   139264  0
kvm  1007616  1 kvm_amd
amdgpu   7049216  109
drm_ttm_helper 16384  1 amdgpu
ttm77824  2 amdgpu,drm_ttm_helper
iommu_v2   24576  1 amdgpu
gpu_sched  45056  1 amdgpu
i2c_algo_bit   16384  1 amdgpu
drm_kms_helper290816  2 amdgpu,nvidia_drm
drm   630784  22
gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,nvidia,amdgpu,drm_ttm_helper,nvidia_drm,ttm

ccp   110592  1 kvm_amd

# lsmod | grep nvidia
nvidia_drm 69632  2
nvidia_modeset   1200128  3 nvidia_drm
nvidia_uvm   1175552  0
nvidia  35319808  91 nvidia_uvm,nvidia_modeset
i2c_nvidia_gpu 16384  0
drm_kms_helper290816  2 amdgpu,nvidia_drm
drm   630784  22 gpu_sched,drm_kms_helper,nvidia
,amdgpu,drm_ttm_helper,nvidia_drm,ttm
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Re: Can't reliably right click with mouse due to click interval... F33 Workstation, Plasma,

[linux guy]

On Sat, Feb 6, 2021 at 8:46 PM Tim via users 
wrote:

>
> I've had double-clicking problems with dicky mouse switches.  And
> although you can make adjustments for that, it's skirting around the
> real problem (bad mouse / bad mouse buttons).
>
>
I replaced the mouse.
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Re: Can't reliably right click with mouse due to click interval... F33 Workstation, Plasma,

[linux guy]

Thanks for the direction.  However, I don't see anything to change click
timing or turn debouncing on or off.

$ xinput list
⎡ Virtual core pointer  id=2[master pointer
 (3)]
⎜   ↳ Virtual core XTEST pointerid=4[slave  pointer
 (2)]
⎜   ↳ USB Optical Mouse id=8[slave  pointer
 (2)]
⎣ Virtual core keyboard id=3[master keyboard
(2)]
   ↳ Virtual core XTEST keyboard   id=5[slave  keyboard
(3)]
   ↳ Power Button  id=6[slave  keyboard
(3)]
   ↳ Power Button  id=7[slave  keyboard
(3)]
   ↳ Chicony USB Keyboard  id=9[slave  keyboard
(3)]
   ↳ Chicony USB Keyboard System Control   id=10   [slave  keyboard
(3)]
   ↳ Chicony USB Keyboard Consumer Control id=11   [slave  keyboard
(3)]
   ↳ Eee PC WMI hotkeysid=12   [slave  keyboard
(3)]
[me@bigboy ~]$
[me@bigboy ~]$ xinput --list-props 8
Device 'USB Optical Mouse':
   Device Enabled (155):   1
   Coordinate Transformation Matrix (157): 1.00, 0.00,
0.00, 0.00, 1.00, 0.00, 0.00, 0.00, 1.
00
   libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled (289):   0
   libinput Natural Scrolling Enabled Default (290):   0
   libinput Scroll Methods Available (291):0, 0, 1
   libinput Scroll Method Enabled (292):   0, 0, 0
   libinput Scroll Method Enabled Default (293):   0, 0, 0
   libinput Button Scrolling Button (294): 2
   libinput Button Scrolling Button Default (295): 2
   libinput Button Scrolling Button Lock Enabled (296):0
   libinput Button Scrolling Button Lock Enabled Default (297):0
   libinput Middle Emulation Enabled (298):0
   libinput Middle Emulation Enabled Default (299):0
   libinput Accel Speed (300): -0.60
   libinput Accel Speed Default (301): 0.00
   libinput Accel Profiles Available (302):1, 1
   libinput Accel Profile Enabled (303):   0, 1
   libinput Accel Profile Enabled Default (304):   1, 0
   libinput Left Handed Enabled (305): 0
   libinput Left Handed Enabled Default (306): 0
   libinput Send Events Modes Available (274): 1, 0
   libinput Send Events Mode Enabled (275):0, 0
   libinput Send Events Mode Enabled Default (276):0, 0
   Device Node (277):  "/dev/input/event2"
   Device Product ID (278):6447, 2326
   libinput Drag Lock Buttons (307):   
   libinput Horizontal Scroll Enabled (308):   1
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Can't reliably right click with mouse due to click interval... F33 Workstation, Plasma,

[linux guy]

I recently switched from a wireless USB mouse to a wired USB mouse.

I cannot reliably right click links in Firefox because the click interval
on the mouse isn't set up right.

How does one modify the mouse click parameters in Fedora and/or Plasma ?
I've looked in System->Settings but can't find anything for click intervals.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:28 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:

>
> That sounds a lot like the same hardware failure I have on my
> old P8H67-V (AUSTek) system. I just tested it again, and the USB3
> ports will work with a single simple device plugged in (like a
> USB keyboard, which is what I tried), but a hub, or a device which
> actually wants to talk USB3 (like a disk drive) doesn't work.
>

It worked fine up until I rebooted with a new kernel this afternoon.   So
if it is a hardware failure, it has worked perfectly since I got the board
a year ago and failed after I updated and rebooted this afternoon.   Can't
say that didn't happen, but it seems really co-incidental.

I'm assuming the southbridge chip (or whatever it is called)
> is dead or at least half dead.


X570 is an AMD AM4 motherboard.  I'm running a Ryzen 3600X processor.
System has been rock solid since I fixed a power supply issue a few months
ago.

The USB2 ports do work.
>
> The other hardware failure on this is the onboard Intel video
> which I guess must use the same half dead chip.
>

I have an NVIDIA GTX 1080 Ti video card.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 7:16 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 2/4/21 5:28 PM, linux guy wrote:
> >
> > Have you tried booting an earlier kernel?
> >
> >
> > Yes.  The behavior was consistent across the 3 kernels I had installed.
> > uname -a
> > Linux bigboy 5.10.11-200.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 20:21:22 UTC 2021
> > x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
>
> If it's not working now on a kernel version that did work before, that
> suggests that it's more likely to be a hardware issue than a kernel issue.
>
> Does anything show up in the journal when you plug something into the
> ports that aren't working?
>
> Since it appears to be USB3 ports that aren't working, try adding
> "blacklist=xhci_hcd" to the kernel command line before booting and see
> if that makes any difference.  I don't know if that will do anything
> since Fedora has that kernel driver compiled in, it's not a module.  So
> if it doesn't work, try "initcall_blacklist=xhci_init_driver" instead.
> ___
>


I'll test this tomorrow.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

I have a USB2 hub attached to my computer.   It was connected to a USB3
port.  I moved it to a USB2 port and how all my USB devices work.  None of
them are connected to a USB3 port.

$ lsusb
Bus 006 Device 004: ID 0951:1666 Kingston Technology DataTraveler 100
G3/G4/SE9 G2/50
Bus 006 Device 003: ID 152d:0551 JMicron Technology Corp. / JMicron USA
Technology Corp. JMS551 SuperSpeed two ports SATA 3Gb/s br
idge
Bus 006 Device 002: ID 2109:0810 VIA Labs, Inc. VL81x Hub
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 04f2:0402 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Genius
LuxeMate i200 Keyboard
Bus 005 Device 005: ID 192f:0916 Avago Technologies, Pte. ADNS-2710 Optical
Mouse Controller
Bus 005 Device 004: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0b05:18f3 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. AURA LED Controller
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:0025 Intel Corp. Wireless-AC 9260 Bluetooth
Adapter
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub


$ lsusb -t
/:  Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M
   |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 5000M
   |__ Port 1: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage,
5000M
   |__ Port 4: Dev 4, If 0, Class=Mass Storage, Driver=usb-storage,
5000M
/:  Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 480M
   |__ Port 1: Dev 4, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M
   |__ Port 2: Dev 5, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device,
Driver=usbhid, 1.5M
   |__ Port 2: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
1.5M
   |__ Port 2: Dev 3, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
1.5M
/:  Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M
/:  Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 480M
   |__ Port 5: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
   |__ Port 5: Dev 2, If 1, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
   |__ Port 6: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 12M
   |__ Port 6: Dev 3, If 2, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
12M
/:  Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M
/:  Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 480M
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

> > I can't ssh into it.  Connection refused.  Looks like I closed port 22,
> > which is what I normally do.
>
> Workstation defaults to having ssh disabled.
>

I set ssh up on all my machines for various reasons.  I keep the port
closed when I am not using it, as I had it today.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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> Do you happen to have usbguard activated?
>

No I did not.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

> did you check to ensure that any extension USB cable being used is rated
> for USB3?
>

A USB2 device was plugged directly into a USB3 port.  It worked during boot
to edit the kernel boot line in the grub editor, but not after booting.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

> Have you tried booting an earlier kernel?
>

Yes.  The behavior was consistent across the 3 kernels I had installed.
uname -a
Linux bigboy 5.10.11-200.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 27 20:21:22 UTC 2021
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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The only working USB devices on this computer are the wired USB keyboard
and the wired USB mouse.   Not sure which they are in the tree above, I
don't want to unplug anything at the moment as I'm getting work done.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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Ask and you shall receive.

$ lsusb -t
/:  Bus 06.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M
/:  Bus 05.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 480M
   |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
1.5M
   |__ Port 2: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
1.5M
   |__ Port 2: Dev 3, If 1, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
1.5M
/:  Bus 04.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M
/:  Bus 03.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 480M
   |__ Port 5: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
   |__ Port 5: Dev 2, If 1, Class=Wireless, Driver=btusb, 12M
   |__ Port 6: Dev 3, If 0, Class=Vendor Specific Class, Driver=, 12M
   |__ Port 6: Dev 3, If 2, Class=Human Interface Device, Driver=usbhid,
12M
/:  Bus 02.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/4p, 1M
/:  Bus 01.Port 1: Dev 1, Class=root_hub, Driver=xhci_hcd/6p, 480M
   |__ Port 1: Dev 2, If 0, Class=Hub, Driver=hub/4p, 480M
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

One other symptom: the power lights on my USB wired keyboard did not light
up when I was plugging it into the USB3 ports.  They now light up when
plugged into the USB2 port.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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>  my initial thought was probably slow keys were enabled.
>
>   https://forum.kde.org/viewtopic.php?f=66=36625
>

Slowkeys is not enabled.  This is NOT keyboard specific.  It is affecting a
USB hub, flash drive and USB IDE hard drive.

This issue seems to affect all devices connected to my USB3 ports.  USB2
ports appear to work OK.  Might be a coincidence though.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

The USB hard drive that is on the other USB bus does not connect to my
computer.  Nor does anything else connected to that bus.  But a keyboard
connected to that bus works during boot up.

$ lsusb
Bus 006 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 005 Device 003: ID 04f2:0402 Chicony Electronics Co., Ltd Genius
LuxeMate i200 Keyboard
Bus 005 Device 002: ID 192f:0916 Avago Technologies, Pte. ADNS-2710 Optical
Mouse Controller
Bus 005 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 004 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 003 Device 003: ID 0b05:18f3 ASUSTek Computer, Inc. AURA LED Controller
Bus 003 Device 002: ID 8087:0025 Intel Corp. Wireless-AC 9260 Bluetooth
Adapter
Bus 003 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub
Bus 002 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0003 Linux Foundation 3.0 root hub
Bus 001 Device 002: ID 2109:3431 VIA Labs, Inc. Hub
Bus 001 Device 001: ID 1d6b:0002 Linux Foundation 2.0 root hub

I think there is an issue with the USB3 driver.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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> On 2/4/21 1:30 PM, linux guy wrote:
> > I am now logged into my plasma session using a wired keyboard and a
> > wired mouse, using USB ports that were not previously used.
>
> sounds more of a usb port or bus issue.
>

The keyboard and USB port worked fine during boot up.   I was able to edit
the kernel command line in grub without any issue.

This is not a hardware issue.  Something changes in the software during the
boot process.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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I am now logged into my plasma session using a wired keyboard and a wired
mouse, using USB ports that were not previously used.

I am available to troubleshoot anything the community wants.  Fire away
with your questions.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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I'm logged into the console session.   I am going to reboot to plasma, to
see what happens.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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> > It points to
> > a local configuration change to me.
>
> I do remember seeing USB related BIOS settings on systems, maybe
> one of them got changed somehow.
>

 No changes, hardware or BIOS, have been made to the computer.  Uptime was
days to a week, can't remember the last time I rebooted.  All software
updates have been from F33/stable.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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> Maybe the USB hardware is dead. I have an old computer where none of
> the USB ports work (and the onboard video also doesn't work, I think
> perhaps they are on the same dead chipset).
>

The keyboard works fine during early boot.  I can edit in the grub editor
just fine.

My *guess* is that there is an issue in the USB3 software stack somewhere.
FYI, I updated from /stable.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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I got the wired USB keyboard working by plugging it straight into a USB2
port.   Standby for more testing.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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> That sounds like your USB bus might be having problems.
>

I agree, that is what it looks like.   The physical USB bus seems to be
fine as the keyboard works in the grub editor.  This appears to be a USB
bus software issue.


> Have you tried the keyboard in every USB port on your system?
>

I just tried a wired USB keyboard in several ports.  No joy.   I have also
tried my wireless USB keyboard in several ports.  No joy.

Am I the only one experiencing this ?   If this is a global problem a lot
of people are going to be affected !
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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My motherboard (Asus TUF Wifi X570) has a PS/2 connector on it.  But I do
not have a PS/2 keyboard !  I used to... but I think it is long gone.  I'll
check.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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I updated and rebooted my system in the first place because a USB hard
drive I was using wasn't responding.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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Sorry for top posting.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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I was able to edit the kernel boot line in the grub editor.
My system booted to a system login prompt.
My keyboard does not work.   I cannot type a user name to log in.

On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 2:01 PM linux guy  wrote:

>
> So the GRUB screen responds to key-presses, just not the fully booted
>>
>
> That is correct.
>
> OS? Can you tell it to boot into text mode (adding
>> systemd.unit=multi-user.target to the kernel line)?
>
>
> I can.
>
> Does the keyboard
>> work then?
>>
>
> Standby wile I test that.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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> So the GRUB screen responds to key-presses, just not the fully booted
>

That is correct.

OS? Can you tell it to boot into text mode (adding
> systemd.unit=multi-user.target to the kernel line)?


I can.

Does the keyboard
> work then?
>

Standby wile I test that.
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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I can ping the computer and it responds.

I can't ssh into it.  Connection refused.  Looks like I closed port 22,
which is what I normally do.

Ideas ?
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Re: No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

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On Thu, Feb 4, 2021 at 1:51 PM Tom Horsley  wrote:

> On Thu, 4 Feb 2021 13:44:00 -0700
> linux guy wrote:
>
> > How do I resolve this ?
>
> First thing to try is unplugging and plugging back in the USB
> devices (or dongles if they are wireless).
>
> If that doesn't work, try plugging them into a different
> USB port.
>
> If that doesn't work, I guess power cycling is the only thing
> to try if you can't cleanly reboot.
> 
>

I've done all those things.  I also tried booting with every kernel that is
installed on my computer.

Is anyone else having this problem ?
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No USB keyboard or mouse on login ? F33 Workstation, USB devices.

[linux guy]

I just did an update to my F33 Workstation install and now I can log in.  I
can't move the mouse pointer on the login screen.   The keyboard doesn't
appear to work either.   Both are USB devices.

My login manager is GDM.  I'm running Plasma as my desktop manager.

I don't think I have ssh enabled on that computer.   How do I resolve this ?
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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Nothing that I'm aware of.  I'll post if it slows down again.

Thanks for the attention.  Fedora rocks !
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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Oops !
It seems to work properly now.
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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Thanks for testing.  I wonder why I have an issue with it ?

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 7:22 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 26/01/2021 10:12, linux guy wrote:
> > Test case... open a Reddit sub in FF and attempt to reply to a post.
>
> No problem with that either.
>
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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Test case... open a Reddit sub in FF and attempt to reply to a post.
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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Spoke too soon.  YouTube and Reddit are both very slow, esp. for typing.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 4:55 PM linux guy  wrote:

> I think I found the problem.  That battery in my wireless keyboard was
> low.   Interesting thing is... it didn't affect all applications the same.
> Some were much slower and others weren't really affected.  Interesting.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:39 PM linux guy  wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure what is slowing down.  Just noticed FF last night.  Plasma
>> had a few glitches in the last week, but it seems to be operating fine now.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:
>>
>>> On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
>>> > Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
>>> > into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>>> >
>>> > Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>>>
>>> Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any
>>> other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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I think I found the problem.  That battery in my wireless keyboard was
low.   Interesting thing is... it didn't affect all applications the same.
Some were much slower and others weren't really affected.  Interesting.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:39 PM linux guy  wrote:

> I'm not sure what is slowing down.  Just noticed FF last night.  Plasma
> had a few glitches in the last week, but it seems to be operating fine now.
>
> On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:
>
>> On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
>> > Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
>> > into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>> >
>> > Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>>
>> Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any
>> other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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I'm not sure what is slowing down.  Just noticed FF last night.  Plasma had
a few glitches in the last week, but it seems to be operating fine now.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:30 PM Joe Zeff  wrote:

> On 1/25/21 2:51 PM, linux guy wrote:
> > Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text
> > into a webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
> >
> > Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>
> Hard to tell, just from what you've given us.  Do you see this in any
> other programs?  Does Firefox tend to go dark when it slows down?
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Re: Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

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I've been updating Firefox and everything else whenever they arrive in
Fedora33/stable.  This is the first time I've noticed the slowness.   And
the slowness isn't the same on every web page.  Some are worse than
others.  Gmail, for instance, works fine.

On Mon, Jan 25, 2021 at 3:01 PM Łukasz Posadowski 
wrote:

> W dniu pon, 25.01.2021 o godzinie 14∶51 -0700, użytkownik linux guy
> napisał:
>
> Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text into a
> webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?
>
> Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?
>
> Thanks !
>
>
> I'm having the same problem since around 2-3 weeks. I forgot for how long
> exactly. I'm on Gnome, so it is not KDe specific. It's more obvious in a
> text field with a lot of text, like in a long thread on forum. I suspect
> spell checker, but i have to test it more closely.
>
>
> --
>
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>
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Firefox slow and laggy, esp. typing online ?

[linux guy]

Anyone else finding Firefox to be very slow and laggy ?  Typing text into a
webpage has lags of up to several seconds ?

Is this a Linux/KDE issue or a Firefox issue ?

Thanks !

Fedora 33 Workstation, fully up to date.
KDE Plasma desktop
AMD 3600X, 64GB RAM @ 3600 MHz, NVME SSD
Internet connection is 80 Mb/s download, 10 Mb/s upload.

$ uname -a
Linux bigboy 5.10.9-201.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Jan 20 16:56:23 UTC 2021
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU
/Linux

$ dnf list firefox
Last metadata expiration check: 0:00:12 ago on Mon 25 Jan 2021 02:49:09 PM
MST.
Installed Packages
firefox.x86_64  84.0.2-1.fc33
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Re: Problems with conflicts on today's updates (f33)

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Living on the (bleeding) edge !

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:09 PM linux guy  wrote:

> I just did too !   LOL.
>
> On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:01 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:
>
>> On 09/01/2021 05:58, linux guy wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 5:43 AM Ed Greshko > <mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> >
>> > Just to add to this.
>> >
>> > The needed fixes/updates are in "updates-testing" and will
>> eventually get pushed.
>> >
>> >
>> > Any idea how long this will take ?
>> >
>> >
>>
>> Sorry, I don't.
>>
>> FWIW, I just did "dnf --enablerepo updates-testing update" with no ill
>> effects.
>>
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Re: Problems with conflicts on today's updates (f33)

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I just did too !   LOL.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 3:01 PM Ed Greshko  wrote:

> On 09/01/2021 05:58, linux guy wrote:
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 5:43 AM Ed Greshko  <mailto:ed.gres...@greshko.com>> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Just to add to this.
> >
> > The needed fixes/updates are in "updates-testing" and will
> eventually get pushed.
> >
> >
> > Any idea how long this will take ?
> >
> >
>
> Sorry, I don't.
>
> FWIW, I just did "dnf --enablerepo updates-testing update" with no ill
> effects.
>
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Re: Problems with conflicts on today's updates (f33)

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On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 5:43 AM Ed Greshko  wrote:

>
> Just to add to this.
>
> The needed fixes/updates are in "updates-testing" and will eventually get
> pushed.
>

Any idea how long this will take ?
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Re: Problems with conflicts on today's updates (f33)

[linux guy]

I've got the same issue.   Pretty frustrating.  I wasn't watching and
accepted the packages that would install and now I've got a non operational
Plasma desktop.

Fedora and Plasma still rock.

On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 5:15 AM Neal Becker  wrote:

> I think at this point this is a clean F33 installation.  Today I got this:
>
> $ sudo dnf update --best --allow
> Last metadata expiration check: 1:56:50 ago on Fri 08 Jan 2021 05:14:10 AM
> EST.
> Error:
>  Problem 1: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> sddm-breeze-5.20.4-1.fc33.noarch
>   - problem with installed package sddm-breeze-5.20.4-1.fc33.noarch
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma >= 5.78.0 needed by
> sddm-breeze-5.20.5-1.fc33.noarch
>  Problem 2: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> plasma-workspace-5.20.4-1.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package plasma-workspace-5.20.4-1.fc33.x86_64
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 3: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> plasma-desktop-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package plasma-desktop-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-desktop-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 4: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> kwin-common-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package kwin-common-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - nothing provides kf5-kwayland(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> kwin-common-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 5: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> plasma-workspace-xorg-5.20.4-1.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package
> plasma-workspace-xorg-5.20.4-1.fc33.x86_64
>   - package plasma-workspace-xorg-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64 requires
> plasma-workspace = 5.20.5-1.fc33, but none of the providers can be installed
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-32) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.i686
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 6: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> plasma-workspace-wayland-5.20.4-1.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package
> plasma-workspace-wayland-5.20.4-1.fc33.x86_64
>   - package plasma-workspace-wayland-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64 requires
> plasma-workspace = 5.20.5-1.fc33, but none of the providers can be installed
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-32) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.i686
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 7: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> plasma-lookandfeel-fedora-5.20.4-1.fc33.noarch
>   - problem with installed package
> plasma-lookandfeel-fedora-5.20.4-1.fc33.noarch
>   - package plasma-lookandfeel-fedora-5.20.5-1.fc33.noarch requires
> plasma-workspace = 5.20.5-1.fc33, but none of the providers can be installed
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-32) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.i686
>   - nothing provides kf5-plasma(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> plasma-workspace-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 8: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> kwin-x11-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package kwin-x11-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - package kwin-x11-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64 requires kwin-common(x86-64) =
> 5.20.5-1.fc33, but none of the providers can be installed
>   - nothing provides kf5-kwayland(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> kwin-common-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 9: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> kwin-wayland-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package kwin-wayland-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - package kwin-wayland-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64 requires kwin-common(x86-64)
> = 5.20.5-1.fc33, but none of the providers can be installed
>   - nothing provides kf5-kwayland(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> kwin-common-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
>  Problem 10: cannot install the best update candidate for package
> kwin-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - problem with installed package kwin-5.20.4-2.fc33.x86_64
>   - package kwin-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64 requires kwin-common(x86-64) =
> 5.20.5-1.fc33, but none of the providers can be installed
>   - nothing provides kf5-kwayland(x86-64) >= 5.78.0 needed by
> kwin-common-5.20.5-1.fc33.x86_64
> (try to add '--skip-broken' to skip uninstallable packages)
>
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Re: F33 KDE Plasma - how do I get the activity list/menu/bar to disappear/minimize ?

[linux guy]

I figured it out.   Right Click on Desktop -> Activities.   This toggles it
to go away and come back.

After the first time it appears to work correctly.

On Fri, Nov 6, 2020 at 12:17 AM linux guy  wrote:

> F33 KDE workstation.  Dual monitors.
>
> I have an activity widget on my desktops.   You press the widget and a
> list of activities appears.   I've been using it for a couple years, no
> problem.   I pressed it in F33 and the list appears.   But I can't figure
> out how to minimize it or make it disappear.How do I make the activity
> list disappear ?
>
> Thanks
>
> $ uname -a
> Linux bigboy 5.8.17-300.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 29 15:55:40 UTC 2020
> x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Lin
>
> dnf list plasma*
> Installed Packages
> plasma-breeze.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-breeze-common.noarch 5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-browser-integration.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-desktop.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-desktop-doc.noarch   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-drkonqi.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-integration.x86_64   5.19.5-2.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-lookandfeel-fedora.noarch5.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-milou.x86_64 5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm-l2tp.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm-openconnect.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm-openswan.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm-openvpn.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm-pptp.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-nm-vpnc.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-pa.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-pk-updates.x86_640.3.2-7.fc33
> @fedora
> plasma-systemsettings.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-user-manager.x86_64  5.19.5-1.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace.x86_64 5.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace-common.x86_64  5.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace-geolocation.x86_64 5.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace-geolocation-libs.x86_645.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace-libs.x86_645.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace-wayland.x86_64 5.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
> plasma-workspace-xorg.x86_645.19.5-3.fc33
>@fedora
>
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F33 KDE Plasma - how do I get the activity list/menu/bar to disappear/minimize ?

[linux guy]

F33 KDE workstation.  Dual monitors.

I have an activity widget on my desktops.   You press the widget and a list
of activities appears.   I've been using it for a couple years, no
problem.   I pressed it in F33 and the list appears.   But I can't figure
out how to minimize it or make it disappear.How do I make the activity
list disappear ?

Thanks

$ uname -a
Linux bigboy 5.8.17-300.fc33.x86_64 #1 SMP Thu Oct 29 15:55:40 UTC 2020
x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Lin

dnf list plasma*
Installed Packages
plasma-breeze.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-breeze-common.noarch 5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-browser-integration.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-desktop.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-desktop-doc.noarch   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-drkonqi.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-integration.x86_64   5.19.5-2.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-lookandfeel-fedora.noarch5.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-milou.x86_64 5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm-l2tp.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm-openconnect.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm-openswan.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm-openvpn.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm-pptp.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-nm-vpnc.x86_64   5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-pa.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-pk-updates.x86_640.3.2-7.fc33
@fedora
plasma-systemsettings.x86_645.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-user-manager.x86_64  5.19.5-1.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace.x86_64 5.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace-common.x86_64  5.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace-geolocation.x86_64 5.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace-geolocation-libs.x86_645.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace-libs.x86_645.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace-wayland.x86_64 5.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
plasma-workspace-xorg.x86_645.19.5-3.fc33
   @fedora
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Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

[linux guy]

IT WORKED !

You guys just saved me hours and hours of time reinstalling and setting up
a new install on this computer.   Thanks for the help !

Linux rocks.  Fedora rocks !
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Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

[linux guy]

Here's the result:

efibootmgr -c -w -L Fedora -d /dev/sdb -p 2 -l '\EFI\fedora\shimx64.efi'
BootCurrent: 0002
Timeout: 2 seconds
BootOrder: 0003,0002,0001,
Boot* Windows Boot Manager
Boot0001* Hard Drive
Boot0002* UEFI:  Patriot Memory PMAP
Boot0003* Fedora

I'm rebooting right now.






On Tue, Nov 3, 2020 at 12:59 PM Samuel Sieb  wrote:

> On 11/3/20 8:25 AM, Chris Murphy wrote:
> > If you get a single line error message from efibootmgr then we need to
> > figure out what's going on. Seems like Windows 10 is installed with
> > UEFI "enabled" and somehow Fedora got installed with a "Legacy BIOS"
> > mode enabled. In which case it's easier to just reinstall - don't
> > forget to backup /home though first.
>
> It's confusing.  The anaconda log shows a legacy install, but all the
> EFI files are there.  If adding the boot entry doesn't work, then a
> reinstall would be the next step.
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Re: How do I fix my messed up F31 boot partition setup ?

[linux guy]

Remember, I am running on a live USB.  I did not boot from the drive that I
am trying to fix.
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