Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-05 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 07:51:09PM -0700, John Wendel wrote:

 Thanks for the reply. When I run the Nouveau driver, I get the Gnome 
 fallback version. And I see a console message that says that there is 
 no 3D hardware acceleration. I've got the same software versions.
 
You mentioned that you have a GeForce 7300 card.
All GeForce 7300 (GT,GS,LE,SE and PCIe or AGP) cards have 3D hardware
acceleration. They should be recognized as such when booting F15.
What does 'lspci -d 10de:' say.

You are running the Nvidia driver. This requires a 'nomodeset' entry
in the kernel line of /boot/grub/grub.conf (if I remember correctly).
To switch to the nouveau driver you have to disable the nvidia driver.
Have you checked if the 'nomodeset' entry has been removed.

Also have a look at
system settings-system info-graphics-forced fallback mode-on/off

Alexander


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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/04/2011 01:32 AM, John Wendel wrote:
 Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working 
 with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse 
 clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).
 
 It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running 
 F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.
 
 Thanks,
 
 John
 

  Have you confirmed this is gnome only not a driver or X problem ?
(e.g. do things work with KDE or xfce?)


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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread John Wendel
On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 01:32 AM, John Wendel wrote:
 Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working
 with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse
 clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).

 It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running
 F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.

 Thanks,

 John

Have you confirmed this is gnome only not a driver or X problem ?
 (e.g. do things work with KDE or xfce?)


I currently running KDE on the box, works fine (but it's boring).

John

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread Genes MailLists
On 08/04/2011 11:00 AM, John Wendel wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:

Have you confirmed this is gnome only not a driver or X problem ?
 (e.g. do things work with KDE or xfce?)


 I currently running KDE on the box, works fine (but it's boring).
 


 Ok good - does KDE still work ok if you turn on desktop effects - that
may tickle the 3D stuff more ... gnome 3 tickles it even more than that
as I understand - but if 3d effects on KDE is a problem then we know for
sure its not gnome per se ...

  gene
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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread Arthur Dent
On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 22:32 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
 Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working 
 with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse 
 clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).
 
 It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running 
 F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.

I too am interested in this. I have a Dell Dimension E520 with Nvidia
GeForce 7300 LE. I have put off upgrading to F15 on this machine (I have
F15 running on a headless server which has no need of Gnomery) because I
read these threads:

http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/400091.html
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/398532.html
http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-July/401484.html

I have not yet seen anything that says it should now be working...

I hope that someone can enlighten me.



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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread gpe

On 04/08/11 16:39, Arthur Dent wrote:
 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 22:32 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
 Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working
 with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse
 clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).


On http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=162959
in the last post there is a possible solution.
Hope it is helped.

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread gpe
 On http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=162959
 in the last post there is a possible solution.
 Hope it is helped.

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Sorry, the solution is in post #4 on the first page. I have not tried it 
myself. My Quadro FX 880M works fine.

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread Darryl L. Pierce
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 05:04:45PM +0100, gpe wrote:
 Sorry, the solution is in post #4 on the first page. I have not tried it 
 myself. My Quadro FX 880M works fine.

Do you have any other issues with F15 relating to the video card? I have
the same one in my laptop (Lenovo W510+) and was told that it's possibly
contributing to heat issues as well as my inability to
suspend/hibernate.

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread gpe
On 04/08/11 17:12, Darryl L. Pierce wrote:

 Do you have any other issues with F15 relating to the video card? I have
 the same one in my laptop (Lenovo W510+) and was told that it's possibly
 contributing to heat issues as well as my inability to
 suspend/hibernate.


I do not have any issues. My laptop is Dell Precision M4500. I am using 
the latest kernel (2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64) and nvidia driver (280.13) 
however I am not using the hibernation.

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread Alexander Volovics
On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 04:39:53PM +0100, Arthur Dent wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 22:32 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
  Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working 
  with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse 
  clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).
  It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running 
  F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.
 
 I too am interested in this. I have a Dell Dimension E520 with Nvidia
 GeForce 7300 LE. I have put off upgrading to F15 on this machine (I have
 F15 running on a headless server which has no need of Gnomery) because I
 read these threads: 
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/400091.html
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/398532.html
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-July/401484.html

I have not tried installing the (latest) Nvidia driver again.
I suspect it will still give problems with at least the NV46 family
of Nvidia chips (including the GeForce 7300 (LE)) as Nvidia has
as far as I know not adressed this problem.

However I can confirm that the Nouveau driver is now functioning
adequately with the Geforce 7300 LE. I have been using it for the
past 2 weeks:
(xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-24.20110324git8378443.fc15.x86_64
 mesa-xxx-7.11-0.16.20110709.0.fc15.x86_64 and
 kernel-2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64)

So if are willing to give up the Nvidia drivers you can comfortably
run F15+Gnome3 with Nouveau.

Alexander


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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread John Wendel
On 08/04/2011 10:07 AM, Alexander Volovics wrote:
 On Thu, Aug 04, 2011 at 04:39:53PM +0100, Arthur Dent wrote:

 On Wed, 2011-08-03 at 22:32 -0700, John Wendel wrote:
 Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working
 with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse
 clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).
 It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running
 F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.

 I too am interested in this. I have a Dell Dimension E520 with Nvidia
 GeForce 7300 LE. I have put off upgrading to F15 on this machine (I have
 F15 running on a headless server which has no need of Gnomery) because I
 read these threads:
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/400091.html
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-June/398532.html
 http://lists.fedoraproject.org/pipermail/users/2011-July/401484.html
 I have not tried installing the (latest) Nvidia driver again.
 I suspect it will still give problems with at least the NV46 family
 of Nvidia chips (including the GeForce 7300 (LE)) as Nvidia has
 as far as I know not adressed this problem.

 However I can confirm that the Nouveau driver is now functioning
 adequately with the Geforce 7300 LE. I have been using it for the
 past 2 weeks:
 (xorg-x11-drv-nouveau-0.0.16-24.20110324git8378443.fc15.x86_64
   mesa-xxx-7.11-0.16.20110709.0.fc15.x86_64 and
   kernel-2.6.40-4.fc15.x86_64)

 So if are willing to give up the Nvidia drivers you can comfortably
 run F15+Gnome3 with Nouveau.

 Alexander


Thanks for the reply. When I run the Nouveau driver, I get the Gnome 
fallback version. And I see a console message that says that there is 
no 3D hardware acceleration. I've got the same software versions.

Regards,

John

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Re: No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-04 Thread John Wendel
On 08/04/2011 08:33 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 11:00 AM, John Wendel wrote:
 On 08/04/2011 04:26 AM, Genes MailLists wrote:
 Have you confirmed this is gnome only not a driver or X problem ?
 (e.g. do things work with KDE or xfce?)


 I currently running KDE on the box, works fine (but it's boring).


   Ok good - does KDE still work ok if you turn on desktop effects - that
 may tickle the 3D stuff more ... gnome 3 tickles it even more than that
 as I understand - but if 3d effects on KDE is a problem then we know for
 sure its not gnome per se ...

gene
Good catch.  Turning on desktop effects kills KDE (hard lockup).  This 
is with the Nvidia driver. Maybe I've got some bad hardware.

Regards,

John
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No Gnome 3 for me

2011-08-03 Thread John Wendel
Anybody have a solution for the bug (?) that keeps Gnome 3 from working 
with Nvidia 7300 video cards? Specifically, the keyboard and mouse 
clicks don't work (but ctrl-alt-backspace does).

It's been a while, I thought this would surely get fixed. I'm running 
F15 with the latest updates and the latest Nvidia driver.

Thanks,

John

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