Re: pipewire and wireplumber
R. G. Newbury wrote: >> And did that version have an exception for when the sacrifice is to >> be undertaken if being undertaken *in California*? Joe Zeff: > Having spent most of my 72 years in California, I know that the most > important thing is to make sure you're using black candles. > It's much harder to find a virgin these days. -- uname -rsvp Linux 3.10.0-1160.59.1.el7.x86_64 #1 SMP Wed Feb 23 16:47:03 UTC 2022 x86_64 Boilerplate: All unexpected mail to my mailbox is automatically deleted. I will only get to see the messages that are posted to the mailing list. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On 3/26/22 21:16, R. G. Newbury wrote: And did that version have an exception for when the sacrifice is to be undertaken if being undertaken *in California*? Having spent most of my 72 years in California, I know that the most important thing is to make sure you're using black candles. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
DJ Delorie wrote "R. G. Newbury" writes: If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? It took a LOT of googling to find the one person who mentioned it elsewhere in the space-time continuum. And did that version have an exception for when the sacrifice is to be undertaken if being undertaken *in California*? In that case it would have been me. (Long ago in a galaxy far far away) iirc it involved the entrails of an OS/2 installation. Geoff ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 2:57 PM R. G. Newbury wrote: > It took a couple of years for each of pulseaudio and systemd to reach > adequate levels of instalability and reliability. Likely the same for > pipewire systemd can't even reboot a system which has been booted into rescue mode, so calling it "stable" or "reliable" clearly involves definitions of those words with which I'm not familiar. -justin > . > > Geoff > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
> On 25 Mar 2022, at 18:58, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > >> >> Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:02:01 -0700 > Samuel Sieb wrote >> Subject: Re: pipewire and wireplumber >> R. G. Newbury wrote: >>> DJ Delorie wrote >>>> Geoffrey Leach writes: >>>>> Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber >>>>> somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my >>>>> connections? >>>> As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession >>>> snippets: >>>> >>>> # Required by pipewire, at least >>>> export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d/tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) >>>> >>>> # Required by most things >>>> eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` >>>> >>>> pipewire & >>>> pipewire-pulse & >>>> (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & >>>> >>>> >>>> There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend >>>> as pulseaudio used. >>> If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen >>> which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at >>> midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? >>> Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of >>> these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure >>> magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. > >> That's because they aren't necessary. For any standard desktop all >> those pieces are already setup for you. Notice how he said >> "non-display-manager user". Those are only necessary if you don't have >> a graphical login session. > > Non-display-manager user or not, those might be necessary even if you have a > graphical login session. I installed the KDE spin of Fedora 35 on Monday. A > bare metal install: I partitioned the sda drive and formatted it during the > install. > I had NO audio. As another data point. I just installed f35 KDE spin on a new pc and everything just worked. I have no audio issues. I did not do any special config it just worked. Barry > And nothing I did allowed the system to even *find* any audio hardware. I > played a fugue's worth of combinations and read everything I could find. > Unfortunately, as noted in this thread, there is no install guide. It just > works - NOT. I saw an error message about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and spent most of > an evening down that rabbit-hole, but nothing worked. Pipewire would not even > find a module which its own rpm had installed. In the end, I basically > inverted the lines of the install process script I was playing with, and > re-installed pulseaudio. > > Audio works fine now. My opinion of pipewire is, that like pulseaudio and > systemd were, it has been released far too early in its beta stages. It took > a couple of years for each of pulseaudio and systemd to reach adequate levels > of instalability and reliability. Likely the same for pipewire. > > Geoff > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2022 01:02:01 -0700 Samuel Sieb wrote Subject: Re: pipewire and wireplumber R. G. Newbury wrote: DJ Delorie wrote Geoffrey Leach writes: Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my connections? As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession snippets: # Required by pipewire, at least export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d/tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) # Required by most things eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` pipewire & pipewire-pulse & (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend as pulseaudio used. If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. That's because they aren't necessary. For any standard desktop all those pieces are already setup for you. Notice how he said "non-display-manager user". Those are only necessary if you don't have a graphical login session. Non-display-manager user or not, those might be necessary even if you have a graphical login session. I installed the KDE spin of Fedora 35 on Monday. A bare metal install: I partitioned the sda drive and formatted it during the install. I had NO audio. And nothing I did allowed the system to even *find* any audio hardware. I played a fugue's worth of combinations and read everything I could find. Unfortunately, as noted in this thread, there is no install guide. It just works - NOT. I saw an error message about XDG_RUNTIME_DIR and spent most of an evening down that rabbit-hole, but nothing worked. Pipewire would not even find a module which its own rpm had installed. In the end, I basically inverted the lines of the install process script I was playing with, and re-installed pulseaudio. Audio works fine now. My opinion of pipewire is, that like pulseaudio and systemd were, it has been released far too early in its beta stages. It took a couple of years for each of pulseaudio and systemd to reach adequate levels of instalability and reliability. Likely the same for pipewire. Geoff ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
Roger Heflin writes: > He has a graphical login session. I very clearly stated that I did not. I boot to a text login prompt, log in, and run "exec xinit .xsession -- -listen tcp -retro" (I have a script for it called "x" :) I've never had much luck getting login managers to run my weird environment correctly. > I am going to guess he is using straight-X windows with one of the > ancient simple window managers (twm, mwm). fvwm2 :-) > DJ: are you the same DJ Delorie that did the work 30 years ago on > djgcc for DOS? If so, that was some good work. I used it for some > image processing work. Yes. You're welcome! It's always good to hear that someone found my work useful. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
"R. G. Newbury" writes: > If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen > which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at > midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? It took a LOT of googling to find the one person who mentioned it elsewhere in the space-time continuum. > Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of > these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure > magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. IIRC it was Arch's or Gentoo's forums that had this bare-metal-gem. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 10:35:55 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > It appears that I should try rawhide. Short of removing the elevant > packages, is there anything else that I should know about making the > transition? That seems a little drastic! While rawhide is far more stable now than the rawhides of yore, it still has occasional issues because it is where all the discontinuous changes are introduced. I first started using rawhide when it was f35. Like you, I found pipewire to be *difficult* [1]. So, also like you, I switched back to pulseaudio. When rawhide became f36, I noticed the swap command, used it. I then read that wireplumber was going to obsolete pipewire-manager, and switched to it. With the exception of the setting of the default device and the recent glitch (that, as far as I know didn't get into stable versions), wireplumber 4.8.2, I have had no problems. I also have a simple use case, though I have multiple cards. I was able to set up everything satisfactorily using pavucontrol. I don't use the command line equivalents, so I don't know if they work, but I didn't need them. As far as I am aware, the same versions in rawhide are in the stable releases, after they pass muster in rawhide. 1. I was using pulseaudio-equalizer, and I didn't find an equivalent for pipewire, so I was reluctant to give it up. Later, I found the easyeffects package for pipewire that provides an equalizer, so I made the switch. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 10:35 -0700, Geoffrey Leach wrote: > It appears that I should try rawhide. Short of removing the elevant > packages, is there anything else that I should know about making the > transition? If you go ahead, note that Rawhide issues should be discussed on the Fedora Test list rather than here. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
It appears that I should try rawhide. Short of removing the elevant packages, is there anything else that I should know about making the transition? On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 6:59 AM stan via users < users@lists.fedoraproject.org> wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:07:27 -0700 > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > I've just installed Fedora 35 and have discovered to my dismay that > > previously-working (not at all sophisticated) audio no longer works. > > > > Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber > > somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my > > connections? > > I'm successfully using wireplumber and pipewire in rawhide, since it > was f36. I think I had your issue as some point. But, just like with > pulseaudio, it turned out to be that the default device was incorrect. > I used pavucontrol, still present though it is no longer pulseaudio > under the covers, and set the default device to the one I wanted, and > it has worked fine ever since. > > There was a recent glitch with a wireplumber update that caused sound to > stop working, but it was fixed within a few days. > > In summary, for me sound is just working with wireplumber and pipewire > replacing pulseaudio. And, since it is inevitable that they are going > to replace pulseaudio, might as well bite the bullet and get them > working. When replacing pulseaudio with pipewire, use the swap command, > dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire-pulseaudio > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On 25/03/2022 04:42, R. G. Newbury wrote: Geoffrey Leach wrote: Obviously we are guinea pigs for this premature piece of software. Could not agree more with the last sentence. To get audio recognized It works both ways. I have had long term problems with pulseaudio that disappeared when I tried an early version of pipewire for Fedora, in the days before pipewire became the default. Pipewire wasn't really complete the last time I checked. Specifically, surround sound with PCM was buggy, and surround sound with things like AC3, which worked with pulseaudio, didn't work at all with pipewire. However, for stereo setups it fixed all the problems I had. Regards, Steve ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:07:27 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I've just installed Fedora 35 and have discovered to my dismay that > previously-working (not at all sophisticated) audio no longer works. > > Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber > somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my > connections? I'm successfully using wireplumber and pipewire in rawhide, since it was f36. I think I had your issue as some point. But, just like with pulseaudio, it turned out to be that the default device was incorrect. I used pavucontrol, still present though it is no longer pulseaudio under the covers, and set the default device to the one I wanted, and it has worked fine ever since. There was a recent glitch with a wireplumber update that caused sound to stop working, but it was fixed within a few days. In summary, for me sound is just working with wireplumber and pipewire replacing pulseaudio. And, since it is inevitable that they are going to replace pulseaudio, might as well bite the bullet and get them working. When replacing pulseaudio with pipewire, use the swap command, dnf swap pulseaudio pipewire-pulseaudio ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On Fri, 2022-03-25 at 00:42 -0400, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > > Obviously we are guinea pigs for this premature piece of > > > software. > > Could not agree more with the last sentence. Bear in mind that Fedora is where we are always guinea pigs to some extent. That's part of the deal. poc ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
He has a graphical login session. I am going to guess he is using straight-X windows with one of the ancient simple window managers (twm, mwm). I have used similar setups on set-top boxes where memory is limited and gnome is overcomplicated and often gets in the way of it working. DJ: are you the same DJ Delorie that did the work 30 years ago on djgcc for DOS? If so, that was some good work. I used it for some image processing work. On Fri, Mar 25, 2022 at 3:03 AM Samuel Sieb wrote: > On 3/24/22 21:49, R. G. Newbury wrote: > > > > DJ Delorie wrote > > > >> Geoffrey Leach writes: > >>> Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber > >>> somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my > >>> connections? > >> > >> As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession > >> snippets: > >> > >> # Required by pipewire, at least > >> export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d /tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) > >> > >> # Required by most things > >> eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` > >> > >> pipewire & > >> pipewire-pulse & > >> (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & > >> > >> > >> There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend > >> as pulseaudio used. > > > > If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen > > which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at > > midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? > > Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of > > these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure > > magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. > > That's because they aren't necessary. For any standard desktop all > those pieces are already setup for you. Notice how he said > "non-display-manager user". Those are only necessary if you don't have > a graphical login session. > ___ > users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org > To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org > Fedora Code of Conduct: > https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ > List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines > List Archives: > https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org > Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: > https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On 3/24/22 21:49, R. G. Newbury wrote: DJ Delorie wrote Geoffrey Leach writes: Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my connections? As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession snippets: # Required by pipewire, at least export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d /tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) # Required by most things eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` pipewire & pipewire-pulse & (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend as pulseaudio used. If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. That's because they aren't necessary. For any standard desktop all those pieces are already setup for you. Notice how he said "non-display-manager user". Those are only necessary if you don't have a graphical login session. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
DJ Delorie wrote Geoffrey Leach writes: Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my connections? As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession snippets: # Required by pipewire, at least export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d /tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) # Required by most things eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` pipewire & pipewire-pulse & (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend as pulseaudio used. If you don't mind answering, was it a Rhode Island Red cockerel or a hen which you sacrificed to learn these arcane secrets? And, full-moon at midnight, or dark of the moon? Or did this take moving up to a goat? Or are you a graduate of Hogwarts? Because I am quite sure that none of these snippets show up anywhere in the so-called documentation. Pure magic, just like any sufficiently advanced technology. Geoff ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
Geoffrey Leach wrote: I'm happy for you. For me, not so much :-( I've just installed Fedora 35 and have discovered to my dismay that previously-working (not at all sophisticated) audio no longer works. Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my connections? Bob Marcan wrote: systemctl --user --now disable wireplumber works for me. Obviously we are guinea pigs for this premature piece of software. Could not agree more with the last sentence. To get audio recognized in order I did this: systemctl stop wireplumber.service dnf erase wireplumber systemctl stop pipewire-pulse.service pipewire-pulse.socket systemctl stop pipewire.service pipewire.socket systemctl daemon-reload dnf --skip-broken erase pipewire pipewire-* libpipewire* pipewire-media-session pipewire-pulseaudio* dnf -y install plasma-desktop # An error message said that plasma-desktop was deleted although that does not appear to be true systemctl stop elogd.service dnf erase elog* # I tried installing elog to get the global XDG_RUNTIME_DIR set: no joy doing that. dnf --allowerasing --skip-broken --best install alsa* kde-settings-pulseaudio dnf --allowerasing --skip-broken --best install pulseaudio* alsa-plugins-pulseaudio dnf --allowerasing install pavucontrol pulseaudio-module-zeroconf The TL:DR is, that I re-installed alsa and pulseaudio after a couple of hours spent trying to get *anything* to connect to the hardware. Geoff ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
Geoffrey Leach writes: > Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber > somewhere? Or should they 'just work' and I need to check my > connections? As a non-gnome (and non-display-manager) user, I share these .xsession snippets: # Required by pipewire, at least export XDG_RUNTIME_DIR=$(mktemp -d /tmp/$(id -u)-runtime-dir.XXX) # Required by most things eval `dbus-launch --sh-syntax --exit-with-session` pipewire & pipewire-pulse & (sleep 2 ; wireplumber & ) & There wasn't a pipewire-specific config; it uses the same ALSA backend as pulseaudio used. ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
I'm happy for you. For me, not so much :-( On Thu, Mar 24, 2022 at 2:53 PM Bob Marcan wrote: > On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:07:27 -0700 > Geoffrey Leach wrote: > > > I've just installed Fedora 35 and have discovered to my dismay that > > previously-working (not at all sophisticated) audio no longer works. > > > > Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber somewhere? > Or > > should they 'just work' and I need to check my connections? > > > > Thanks. > > systemctl --user --now disable wireplumber > works for me. > Obviously we are guinea pigs for this premature piece of software. > > BR, Bob > ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
Re: pipewire and wireplumber
On Thu, 24 Mar 2022 14:07:27 -0700 Geoffrey Leach wrote: > I've just installed Fedora 35 and have discovered to my dismay that > previously-working (not at all sophisticated) audio no longer works. > > Is there a 'Getting Started With pipewire' and/or wireplumber somewhere? Or > should they 'just work' and I need to check my connections? > > Thanks. systemctl --user --now disable wireplumber works for me. Obviously we are guinea pigs for this premature piece of software. BR, Bob ___ users mailing list -- users@lists.fedoraproject.org To unsubscribe send an email to users-le...@lists.fedoraproject.org Fedora Code of Conduct: https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/project/code-of-conduct/ List Guidelines: https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Mailing_list_guidelines List Archives: https://lists.fedoraproject.org/archives/list/users@lists.fedoraproject.org Do not reply to spam on the list, report it: https://pagure.io/fedora-infrastructure
