Re: [videoblogging] re: scoble thinggy and rev models
Hey Lisa, Happy Holidays to all. While my voice may not be one that's paid attention to, I will agree with that sentence and state that for me, the vlogs I make become content for the overall SBS website and blog network. So they help draw traffic which then -- at times -- becomes revenue from clicks or sim accounts, or affiliate marketing. But also I have a BIG WEB PORTAL -- about 20K in pages. I'm not the norm. Best, Zennie --- Lisa Rein [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This thread has lead me to reach a conclusion that I would like to run by y'all before I *officially* believe to be true. Do you agree with this blanket statement? Most videobloggers seem to have figured out by now that they're going to have to develop their own independent business models/sponsors in order to ever make any real money from their creations. where real = enough money to live on If there are stories that provide exceptions to this conclusion, I would love to know about them. thanks! lisa Never miss a thing. Make Yahoo your home page. http://www.yahoo.com/r/hs
Re: [videoblogging] For Dan McVicar (was Re: Loren Feldman = Technigga)
Hey Irina and all, Dan speaks for me; I for one don't understand -- or want to -- this need to express racism via this medium. I also remind all that the American Psychiatric Association does consider racism a mental illness like depression. Zennie --- Irina [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: out of all the hullabahoo, daniel mcvicar sums it up best for me in what he wrote below. On 8/5/07, danielmcvicar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Loren Feldman's post was wrong, terribly wrong. His followup piece playing the rehab card, tongue in cheek, was a dismissal of any responsibility that he may have for putting this poison out. This 'satire is destructive, and serves no purpose. It is also, for me, a negative reflection on Podtech. I sent John Furrier a message suggesting that Podtech cut ties with 1938media. I think it is the right thing to do for them, because they are besmirched by association. I am also dismayed by the comments that appeared on 1938media from snickering people with pseudonyms that continue the lousy and abhorrent jokes. That is how poison is spread, how racism gets perpetuated. I wish Loren Feldman all the best, but I do not want this racist humor to be part of my life or of my community. _ -- http://geekentertainment.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545433
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NY Times Kit Seelye Can't Get Her Black Vloggers Straight!....
Hey Bill! HA! That's a good idea. Maybe I should have a caption that reads Warning. Same black vlogger alert! LOL Zennie --- Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's even funnier is that you said your name in the beginning of BOTH clips! :D (her article: http://tinyurl.com/2b4bzc) Maybe you should speak more slowly or use a text overlay (called a lower 3rd) to VISUALLY represent your name and title (or whatever) so that in the future, you won't be mistaken for DIFFERENT people in BACK-TO-BACK clips! :D hahahaha u. Or make sure you wear the same shirt in every single videoblog! :D -- billcammack --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, thisiswar3005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Katharine Seelye a reporter for The New York Times wrote an article about tommorrow's CNN / YouTube Debates where she links to two of my videos twice in paragraphs close to each other, but fails to identify me as the same person! This is both sad and funny. But it's mostly sad and not that funny. Here are the details: http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-york-times-cant-get-its-black-guy.html Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: NY Times Kit Seelye Can't Get Her Black Vloggers Straight!....
Hi Again, Something else. Someone at Yalleywag said that the reporter was being sloppy, but not racist. Well, I pointed out that some people can't see beyond obvious racism, for some reason. For example, why was it SO IMPORTANT to describe a black man in the second paragraph where I'm linked, and not the first one? I despair that we've lost our collective ability to think critically when it matters most. Z --- Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Bill! HA! That's a good idea. Maybe I should have a caption that reads Warning. Same black vlogger alert! LOL Zennie --- Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What's even funnier is that you said your name in the beginning of BOTH clips! :D (her article: http://tinyurl.com/2b4bzc) Maybe you should speak more slowly or use a text overlay (called a lower 3rd) to VISUALLY represent your name and title (or whatever) so that in the future, you won't be mistaken for DIFFERENT people in BACK-TO-BACK clips! :D hahahaha u. Or make sure you wear the same shirt in every single videoblog! :D -- billcammack --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, thisiswar3005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Katharine Seelye a reporter for The New York Times wrote an article about tommorrow's CNN / YouTube Debates where she links to two of my videos twice in paragraphs close to each other, but fails to identify me as the same person! This is both sad and funny. But it's mostly sad and not that funny. Here are the details: http://zennie2005.blogspot.com/2007/07/new-york-times-cant-get-its-black-guy.html Choose the right car based on your needs. Check out Yahoo! Autos new Car Finder tool. http://autos.yahoo.com/carfinder/ Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [videoblogging] Political video bloggers
Hi, Here's a couple I produced: Great Leaders http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4332qcXf78 and Barack Obama in Oakland http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZCijEB3PkBg and.. Why are you a Democrat? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mF8jhloslMg Thanks, Zennie Abraham, Jr. Chairman and CEO Sports Business Simulations 510-387-9809 http://www.sbs-world.com --- Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here's a couple I did: Dennis Kucinich meets Josh Wolf's Mom http://richardshow.org/show/2007/01/21/dennis-kucinich-meets-josh-wolfs-mom/ and A letter from our representative on net neutrality http://richardshow.org/show/2006/08/21/a-letter-from-our-representative-on-net-neutrality/ ... Richard On 6/26/07, mediamogirl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all...I am looking for links to great political videos and videobloggers to feature on my vlog and also for a MSM project I'm working on. I am producing some myself and interested in linking up with other creators who are doing satirical work/parodies and opinion/commentary. I have found many on my own, but know that there are probably a lot of great videos out there that I'm missing. Thoughts? -- Richard http://richardhhall.org Shows http://richardshow.org http://inspiredhealing.tv [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Park yourself in front of a world of choices in alternative vehicles. Visit the Yahoo! Auto Green Center. http://autos.yahoo.com/green_center/
Re: [videoblogging] Re: ustream.tv a doubt
Greetings, We worked with Usteam for the NFL Draft. I recommend the dedicated Internet connection, rather than a Wifi signal -- it worked but only when the traffic on the system was low. Also, what are UStream.tv's competitors? Zennie --- johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Carla: One good way to know for sure is to simply do a few test broadcasts. Start with a couple of short broadcasts, then try a test that lasts as long as your event. John www.HistoricHomeWorks.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Competition for YouTube?
Hi, Congrats on the site. I'm not sold on it from a usability perspective. It's way too busy. It reminds me of Bloglines in its design problems. The three main concerns of your design should be Can a person easily find the link button to go to his or her page?, Can a person set up an account with a few steps? , and Does the site promote vital video distribution well? The front page throws a lot at one and doesn't have that simple Start Here button. I'd do a complete redesign here. Do a useability study. Check it out. Best, Zennie --- Steve Watkins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agree with your observations. Its hard to tell from the press release but I assume they may well lmit some or all of it to US only due to the complexities of international media rights, for example that many of these US series are shown on UK TV much later, and the UK companies that pay a lot for the broadcast rightss arent likely to be chuffed if the stuff was already available to watch online first. This international angle is one area where forward-thinking new media could have the upper hand for ages, if traditional media cant escape the shackles of the international broadcast rights marketplace. Cheers Steve Elbows --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Frank Sinton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This will be interesting to watch, of course. A couple of comments: 1) US only? They only mentioned US. As we all know, online video is a lot more than just the US. 2) They are calling this a strategic alliance rather than a joint venture, probably to try to avoid being labeled the next Movielink, but they will have to prove to everyone that they can operate differently. 3) ubiquitous distribution? - also followed by Post-launch, sites affiliated with founding companies, including iVillage and IGN, will also have the opportunity to become distribution partners. I'm just not seeing it as ubiquitous - will all video feeds be available via MediaRSS with enclousures? Will I be able to download to my iPod? Just my initial thoughts... still lots of question marks, obviously. -Frank Frank Sinton CEO, Mefeedia [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.mefeedia.com - Find, Watch, and Share great videoblogs and podcasts. Our blog: http://mefeedia.com/blog --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, tony.katz tony.katz@ wrote: http://www.drudgereport.com/flash3.htm I hope you like pre-roll advertising. Tony Katz http://www.talkshowonthego.com http://www.aweli.com The fish are biting. Get more visitors on your site using Yahoo! Search Marketing. http://searchmarketing.yahoo.com/arp/sponsoredsearch_v2.php
Re: [videoblogging] YouTube sued for 1 billion dollars.....(Insert doctor evil laugh)
Viacom's a stupid organization. They'll lose big time. I thnk Google should just buy them and fire Summer Redstone. Z --- Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Check it http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17592285/ I mean seriously, 1 billion dollars?!?! Give me a freaking break...I worry about the future I really doI mean yeah, they have got content but 1 billion?!? Get real. Interesting that this announcement comes on the heals of Viacom saying that they are going to create a site where people can leagaly mash up their work...Ah...corprate politics at it's finest. NEW YORK - MTV owner Viacom Inc. said Tuesday it has sued YouTube and its corporate parent Google Inc. in federal court for alleged copyright infringement and is seeking more than $1 billion in damages. Viacom claims that the more than 160,000 unauthorized video clips from its cable networks, which also include Comedy Central, VH1 and Nickelodeon, have been available on the popular video-sharing Web site. The lawsuit marks a sharp escalation of long-simmering tensions between Viacom and YouTube. Last month Viacom demanded that YouTube remove more than 100,000 unauthorized clips after several months of talks between the companies broke down. In a statement, Viacom lashed out at YouTube's business practices, saying it has built a lucrative business out of exploiting the devotion of fans to others' creative works in order to enrich itself and its corporate parent Google. Viacom said YouTube's business model, which is based on building traffic and selling advertising off of unlicensed content, is clearly illegal and is in obvious conflict with copyright laws. A representative for Google didn't immediately respond to a request for comment. Other media companies have also clashed with YouTube over copyrights, but some, including CBS Corp. and General Electric Co.'s NBC Universal, have reached deals with the video-sharing site to license their material. Universal Music Group, a unit of France's Vivendi SA, had threatened to sue YouTube, saying it was a hub for pirated music videos, but later reached a licensing deal with them. Viacom filed the lawsuit in the U.S. District Court for the Southern District of New York and is also seeking an injunction prohibiting Google and YouTube from using its clips. Heath http://batmangeek7.blogspot.com Food fight? Enjoy some healthy debate in the Yahoo! Answers Food Drink QA. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=listsid=396545367
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Follow up to Rocketboom break-up.
Hi ALL, OMG...You mean this is STILL outstanding? I'm running for cover Z --- Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not going to go into depth here... but Andrew's announcement on dembot was completely factually incorrect. Unfortunately, we've yet to come to a resolution. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, greg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You know, the Rocketboom mess was so publicly discussed on this board. However, the follow-up resolution was not touched at all. What is up with that? I read in Andrew's blog a few months ago that he got 100% ownership of RocketBoom, but I never saw it mentioned here. (or anywhere else for that matter..) I did a quick look in the archives and it does not seem to be mentioned on this group at all, so I thought I would mention it. (Unless I missed that string, someone let me know if I did)... Here is the link to the announcement. http://www.dembot.com/012049.html Anyway, after all the He Said, She Said, it is nice to see some resolution. (I hate when the MSM does a story and never does a follow up.. We don't want to be like the MSM do we?) So, since nobody else has seemed to say it, congratulations Andrew! Greg http://gregsvideoblog.blogspot.com Now that's room service! Choose from over 150,000 hotels in 45,000 destinations on Yahoo! Travel to find your fit. http://farechase.yahoo.com/promo-generic-14795097
Re: [videoblogging] Re: LO-FI SAINT LOUIS signs with Podtech
Congrats Bill, Seems a lot has come out of the Vloggies interactions for all of us! Zennie --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So cool man, not just the new gig but the walls, I'm digging the walls. It is an exciting time. There are going to be quite a few folks migrating to the next level of experience. Make the most of it and don't forget to enjoy the process. I'm happy for you but green with envy about that wonderful paint job. Gena - http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Streeter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey I just wanted to let you all know that I followed in Jay and Ryanne's footsteps and joined the Podtech Network this week. It's probably a very similar deal that they got--I have creative freedom to do what I want with my stuff, it's a licensing deal so I get to keep ownership of my stuff. And they're paying me. Which is way cool. It's a good feeling to think that someone liked your stuff enough to pay you to do something that you really love doing. I really dig the folks at Podtech (I got to hang with them this past week at the Bloghaus at CES) and I think that they are doing the business side of this stuff the right way. The process was relatively painless and I got great help from Morty Wiggins from OuThink who has loads of experience dealing with all aspects of the entertainment business. (http://www.outhink.com) And I got legal help from Colette Vogele who literally wrote the book on Podcasting and the law (I'm serious! Google it!). Her web site is here: http://vogelelaw.com So anyway I posted an announcement video on my site. You probably won't get a lot more info from it than you got here. But you do get to see me on video (a rare thing) and you get to see the orange walls in my house. Here is the link to the post: http://lofistl.com/2007/01/13/special-announcement/ Bill Streeter LO-FI SAINT LOUIS www.lofistl.com Yahoo! Music Unlimited Access over 1 million songs. http://music.yahoo.com/unlimited
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Merry X-MAS!
Nice fireplace! My Christmas thought... http://threeminutesvlog.blogspot.com/2006/12/three-minutes-on-christmas-and-heather.html Zennie --- johnleeke [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here is my Season's Greetings, for family and fellow vloggers: http://johnleeke.blip.tv/file/121463/ John Leeke by hammer and hand great works do stand by cam and light he shoots it right __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Videos Ready - Let's band together to do something about Global Warming!!!
Hi Casey, I jumped the gun, but it's all here: http://threeminutesvlog.blogspot.com/2006/12/three-minutes-on-global-warming.html and on both Blip.tv and YouTube! Zennie --- Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi everyone, I'm really glad so many of you are in... I have lost faith in our governments and believe we need to put pressure on them to take action. I've received a couple of suggestions to tag vlogglobalwarming so I guess we should use that. Let's see if we can inspire others to do the same and try to make a difference. I'll try making a short video in the next week over the holidays. Thanks for caring for the world we live in! Let us know when you post your videos! Best, Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Again, I recoded the file, so here's the new Blip.tv link: http://blip.tv/file/120508 Zennie --- Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the fog has cleared now, so I can't do a video that supports vloglobalwarming, not that fog has anything to do with it, just that it's managed to scupper people plans to escape England, this year. I wish I could help, but I am geo-located in a place that usually doesn't have snow at christmas time. Paul Knight On 23 Dec 2006, at 02:07, Joshua Paul wrote: In here, too. Funny, I recorded a video a couple of weeks ago while the winds were whipping around our home. Recently, the winds here are *insane*. Although, I agree that vlogforglobalwarming seems like we're somehow in support of it. :-(? -- josh On Dec 22, 2006, at 5:21 PM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote: Okay, listen people... this is important. We have no snow in Montreal... NONE. I seriously believe that we are being affected by global warming and would like to know if you are being affected as well. If so, I would like to propose a community collaboration: - Make a vlog entry about global warming and how it is affecting the weather in your area; - Tag it! (What do you think of the tag vlogforglobalwarming?) - We should make a collective site to post the videos in a central location (with link backs to the original posts) - Promote it heavily to see if we can make a difference in the world... Feel free to show your concern and even rant at your government for not doing enough... Let me know what you think about this... it's sad that the winter wonderlands that many of us grew up in will not be white for Christmas. A concerned community member, Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] BlipTV - Three Minutes - Meat Prices In Georgia
H, It works here: http://threeminutesvlog.blogspot.com/ Zennie --- Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: is Blip down tonight ? It don't work in France tonight ;-( Loiez __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Three Minutes - My New Vlog
Hi, Yeah, this is an annoying byproduct of how I used the MacBook with the internal mic. What I will do next time and in the future is just use the camcorder as a feed, where the sound embalance is null. ..Unlesss someone has a sugestion. But thanks for this. Zennie --- Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Good luck with the show. Technical point: Your intro music is at least three times as loud as your voice. Causing the viewer to adjust audio levels messes up their immersion. Also, if you have music at the end, they get blasted with it because they turned their system up so loud to listen to your voice. Bill C. http://ems.blip.tv --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, thisiswar3005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was thinking one day of just having a set up where I sit in front on the i-Sight- equipped MacBook for three minutes and talk about some subject of the day. So after thinking and thinking about it, I did it. The rule for me is that it can't be longer than three minutes and I can't use any uploaded images other than the base video itself. So I use photos in my hand! Check it out at: http://www.threeminutes.tv And I appreciate whatever feedback comes, if any. It's the second of our vlog shows, but for me an experiment in pure vlogging. Whatever that is. To me, it's just talking about something on camera. __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's band together to do something about Global Warming!!!
Hi, I just finished a Three Minutes on this subject as per your request to the group. I'll let you know when it's up. Zennie . --- Amanda Congdon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mario and I are in, Case. Great, GREAT idea. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Casey McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Okay, listen people... this is important. We have no snow in Montreal... NONE. I seriously believe that we are being affected by global warming and would like to know if you are being affected as well. If so, I would like to propose a community collaboration: - Make a vlog entry about global warming and how it is affecting the weather in your area; - Tag it! (What do you think of the tag vlogforglobalwarming?) - We should make a collective site to post the videos in a central location (with link backs to the original posts) - Promote it heavily to see if we can make a difference in the world... Feel free to show your concern and even rant at your government for not doing enough... Let me know what you think about this... it's sad that the winter wonderlands that many of us grew up in will not be white for Christmas. A concerned community member, Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's band together to do something about Global Warming!!!
Hello All, Ok, Casey. Here's my contribution. I happened to tune into weather.com and based the episode around what I found there. It's a fresh upload, not yet into the vlog site, but on Blip.tv Here it is: http://blip.tv/file/120486/ Zennie --- Joshua Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In here, too. Funny, I recorded a video a couple of weeks ago while the winds were whipping around our home. Recently, the winds here are *insane*. Although, I agree that vlogforglobalwarming seems like we're somehow in support of it. :-(? -- josh On Dec 22, 2006, at 5:21 PM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote: Okay, listen people... this is important. We have no snow in Montreal... NONE. I seriously believe that we are being affected by global warming and would like to know if you are being affected as well. If so, I would like to propose a community collaboration: - Make a vlog entry about global warming and how it is affecting the weather in your area; - Tag it! (What do you think of the tag vlogforglobalwarming?) - We should make a collective site to post the videos in a central location (with link backs to the original posts) - Promote it heavily to see if we can make a difference in the world... Feel free to show your concern and even rant at your government for not doing enough... Let me know what you think about this... it's sad that the winter wonderlands that many of us grew up in will not be white for Christmas. A concerned community member, Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Let's band together to do something about Global Warming!!!
Hi Again, I recoded the file, so here's the new Blip.tv link: http://blip.tv/file/120508 Zennie --- Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Unfortunately, the fog has cleared now, so I can't do a video that supports vloglobalwarming, not that fog has anything to do with it, just that it's managed to scupper people plans to escape England, this year. I wish I could help, but I am geo-located in a place that usually doesn't have snow at christmas time. Paul Knight On 23 Dec 2006, at 02:07, Joshua Paul wrote: In here, too. Funny, I recorded a video a couple of weeks ago while the winds were whipping around our home. Recently, the winds here are *insane*. Although, I agree that vlogforglobalwarming seems like we're somehow in support of it. :-(? -- josh On Dec 22, 2006, at 5:21 PM, videoblogging@yahoogroups.com wrote: Okay, listen people... this is important. We have no snow in Montreal... NONE. I seriously believe that we are being affected by global warming and would like to know if you are being affected as well. If so, I would like to propose a community collaboration: - Make a vlog entry about global warming and how it is affecting the weather in your area; - Tag it! (What do you think of the tag vlogforglobalwarming?) - We should make a collective site to post the videos in a central location (with link backs to the original posts) - Promote it heavily to see if we can make a difference in the world... Feel free to show your concern and even rant at your government for not doing enough... Let me know what you think about this... it's sad that the winter wonderlands that many of us grew up in will not be white for Christmas. A concerned community member, Casey --- http://www.galacticast.com/ [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's program The Future right now. And she's doing well. Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than working out and holiday shopping... Zennie --- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it has entertainment value for some, but they're hurting themselves more than each other. You know how in movies you see someone doing something really stupid and wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or hurt, or killed? Like when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in Desperate Housewives and you can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those scenes - they hurt my stomach, I get up and walk out. Which is how this whole thing makes me feel. On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: Moderators, where are you? this one is sitting back watching this tread with great amusement. thanks for the entertainment. in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez shared. that was the highlight. i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for a long long time and this one was actually a real treat. for those who wish it would stop: please just ignore it. btw, a moderator started this thread. and another moderator already set it on fire. what more do you want? play nice kids :) --- Markus Sandy -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: OOoh, Amanda's Up!
Find your path, and share the joy! The People Of The United Methodist Church. --- Paul Knight [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dang, so much for my attempt to distract away from the tears and tantrums episode. Paul On 16 Dec 2006, at 20:07, Zenophon Abraham wrote: Meanwhile, Amanda marches on. She's on CNN's program The Future right now. And she's doing well. Of course, this means I'm blogging rather than working out and holiday shopping... Zennie --- Deirdre Straughan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess it has entertainment value for some, but they're hurting themselves more than each other. You know how in movies you see someone doing something really stupid and wrong and you know they're going to get caught, or hurt, or killed? Like when Susan is doing the nth stupid thing in Desperate Housewives and you can see the trainwreck coming? I can't take those scenes - they hurt my stomach, I get up and walk out. Which is how this whole thing makes me feel. On 12/16/06, Markus Sandy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Dec 16, 2006, at 10:34 AM, Deirdre Straughan wrote: Moderators, where are you? this one is sitting back watching this tread with great amusement. thanks for the entertainment. in particular, i really liked the hugs video loiez shared. that was the highlight. i really haven't had time to watch soap operas for a long long time and this one was actually a real treat. for those who wish it would stop: please just ignore it. btw, a moderator started this thread. and another moderator already set it on fire. what more do you want? play nice kids :) --- Markus Sandy -- best regards, Deirdré Straughan www.beginningwithi.com (personal) www.tvblob.com (work) [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] racism vs vlogger ?
Hi, The post's title seems to indicate a race bias at play, but not in this story. I think it's more a problem of an institution in a post-911 environment imposing it's will and the general public standing back and allowing it to do so. As a momentary aside, there's too many examples of people being arrested and put away for non-violent matters and zero -- zero protest or screaming about it or even lawsuits. That's scary, and I am going to place myself in the sea of people who need to get off their ass and do something. Z --- Loiez D. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, You know i am in France and sometimes i don't understand american culture I watched on TV channel the Darryl Hunt' story Do you think it's the same story with Josh Wolf ? a crazy judge Apologies if i am over the limit Loiez (Anybody here is working on vlogging and Virtual Identity ?) Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] please test for me
Hi Richard! Unfortunately, yes. It's slow...Now at 1 minute and still nothing. Zennie --- Richard (Show) Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would really appreciate it if someone would go to this post: http://richardhhall.org/makemediatv/?p=15 Try and download the quicktime file and tell me if it goes REALLY slow. (You don't have to download the whole thing, I just want to confirm that it's going REALLY slow.) This has been a problem on godaddy for the last few weeks, and I know it's time to switch all my links to blip but, for now, I have some files I need to get off there and I can't even download them and haven't put them on blip yet and I don't want to go through all the compressing and everything again. I found this to be true on my dsl at home and on the t1 at the university, and I called godaddy and they said it worked fine on their machines. Please test and let me know. .. thanks! ... Richard -- http://richardhhall.org http://richardshow.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] For research Geeks
Hi, Nice find. I also discovered a social bookmarking script that one can install in their blogs. See: http://www.toprankblog.com/tools/social-bookmarks/social-buttons.php Z --- Zachary Braiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys, just found an amazing blog entry that highlights every free tool to track and watch buzz online. wanted to share: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2006/11/24/buzz-monitoring-observing-und-tracking also, wanted to ask how you find out about new information...do you use any remarkable websites or subscribe to an RSS alert worth sharing? -research geek zachary www.quiverandquill.com On 11/27/06, Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't even need motion picture techniques. A good experiment is to go into a school class of say 8 - 10 year olds and read them the nonsense poem Jabberwocky then film them telling you what the poem is about. It's great fun and a good answer to the question how much of our own perspective taints the news we hear/see/read? Regards, Gary http://www.garyshort.org/ http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jan / The Faux Press Sent: 27 November 2006 12:16 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Example of how video could change things Oh, Iliya, Iliya, Iliya, Herein lies one of the main points of why it's important to help make people media literate through videoblogging: motion pictures can be shaped to point the truth in lots of different directions. If you learn nothing else from vlogging, this should be it. I'd love to see us - as a group - take that piece of subject video and edit it to say various things using motion picture techniques. XO, Jan On 11/26/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]supercanadian%40gmail.com mailto:supercanadian%40gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) Are you saying that people might assume extra things not shown in the video? Or am I misunderstanding you? See ya -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] For research Geeks
Opps... Try this link: http://www.toprankblog.com/tools/social-bookmarks/ --- Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Nice find. I also discovered a social bookmarking script that one can install in their blogs. See: http://www.toprankblog.com/tools/social-bookmarks/social-buttons.php Z --- Zachary Braiker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey guys, just found an amazing blog entry that highlights every free tool to track and watch buzz online. wanted to share: http://www.smashingmagazine.com/2006/11/24/buzz-monitoring-observing-und-tracking also, wanted to ask how you find out about new information...do you use any remarkable websites or subscribe to an RSS alert worth sharing? -research geek zachary www.quiverandquill.com On 11/27/06, Gary Short [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't even need motion picture techniques. A good experiment is to go into a school class of say 8 - 10 year olds and read them the nonsense poem Jabberwocky then film them telling you what the poem is about. It's great fun and a good answer to the question how much of our own perspective taints the news we hear/see/read? Regards, Gary http://www.garyshort.org/ http://www.carnoustiegolflinks.co.uk/ From: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com[mailto: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Jan / The Faux Press Sent: 27 November 2006 12:16 To: videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [videoblogging] Example of how video could change things Oh, Iliya, Iliya, Iliya, Herein lies one of the main points of why it's important to help make people media literate through videoblogging: motion pictures can be shaped to point the truth in lots of different directions. If you learn nothing else from vlogging, this should be it. I'd love to see us - as a group - take that piece of subject video and edit it to say various things using motion picture techniques. XO, Jan On 11/26/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED]supercanadian%40gmail.com mailto:supercanadian%40gmail.com wrote: I'm not sure what you mean here. How could that video show anything but the truth. (You don't believe it to be a fake do you?) Are you saying that people might assume extra things not shown in the video? Or am I misunderstanding you? See ya -- The Faux Press - better than real http://fauxpress.blogspot.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Cheap talk? Check out Yahoo! Messenger's low PC-to-Phone call rates. http://voice.yahoo.com __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: You Tube Anti-Racism Project
I guess, for me, it boils down to communicating this question: Would you say something to hurt a person's feelings just because your skin is different than there own? If your answer is yes, then America has a problem... That's how I'd start a vlog. And it's because the bottom line is that some think they have the right to hurt the feeling of others for no good reason. None. It's getting bad. The NYPD just shot a Black man unarmed 50 times -- no explaination. It's as if we're animals. And that's the point, those of us who are not animals must take action to curb those who are. Z --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting. YT'ers doing a collective mash-up for a cause. They are coming along. Very positive. I have feelings about it - gonna have to find a way to vlog about it. It is one thing to say you are against the isms or that people should be conscious of what the say and write in public. But that is not what the isms is - those are just the symptoms. What is needed is a video that gets at the rage and anger. For that you need to be able to say the words and hear the responses. That is harder to do. Risky. Not safe. Can shatter illusions on both sides. Going beyond the surface, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, thisiswar3005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I just saw a video which was made as part of YouTube's Anti-Racism project. I think all of us should make some contribution to this effort, or if you run a video distribution company like Grouper, Blip.tv, etc., start your own version of the YouTube initiative. I'm personally saddened over the words of hate that some have written in response to clips of the recent Michael Richards rant. We have to do something to counter what seems to be a small movement toward, not away from, racism. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mB3pDYTne0 Thanks! Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: You Tube Anti-Racism Project
Hi, I think the bottom line is if we really don't want to see others harmed or cause harm to them -- for whatever silly color or sex reason (there's no scientific support for the idea of race divisions amoung humans) -- we need to take up vlog arms agains the action. We need to be the breakwater. Even if we take the draconian step of accusing those who are that way of being mentally ill. An approach the American Psyciatric Association has discussed and is close to adopting. The claim of 40 percent of their members is that racism is a mental illness. Z --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's part of my problem on trying to find video ways to express the root causes. It is not just skin, but gender, sexual orientation, nationality, age, beauty, celebrity worship... Fox-TV has built its reputation not on true conservative values but by pitting 1/2 of the nation against the other 1/2 that does not think, look or have the same opinions. Define the other as being less than you are or less loyal and you are working the isms. Rush has made $$$ by having so-called humor and commentary at the expense of Latinos, Asians and African-Americans. I am not for censorship. Hate it. But look at the body of his work and tell me that a certain level of society permission was given to think and feel that way. Michael Richards did not blow up in isolation. The Rev that fought gay marriage only to be found humping his way to heaven with a male hooker with side order of meth did not live in isolation. Foley, Gibson, and a bunch more. I got the question but I don't want to fire up this group in that direction. Not my point. I got other questions that are harder to videotape - if there is (and there is) systemic isms embeded in our culture how do you show that to people? Heck of a week. Be careful out there, Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess, for me, it boils down to communicating this question: Would you say something to hurt a person's feelings just because your skin is different than there own? If your answer is yes, then America has a problem... That's how I'd start a vlog. And it's because the bottom line is that some think they have the right to hurt the feeling of others for no good reason. None. It's getting bad. The NYPD just shot a Black man unarmed 50 times -- no explaination. It's as if we're animals. And that's the point, those of us who are not animals must take action to curb those who are. Z --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting. YT'ers doing a collective mash-up for a cause. They are coming along. Very positive. I have feelings about it - gonna have to find a way to vlog about it. It is one thing to say you are against the isms or that people should be conscious of what the say and write in public. But that is not what the isms is - those are just the symptoms. What is needed is a video that gets at the rage and anger. For that you need to be able to say the words and hear the responses. That is harder to do. Risky. Not safe. Can shatter illusions on both sides. Going beyond the surface, Gena http://outonthestoop.blogspot.com http://pcclibtech.blogspot.com http://voxmedia.org/wiki/Video --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, thisiswar3005 thisiswar3005@ wrote: I just saw a video which was made as part of YouTube's Anti-Racism project. I think all of us should make some contribution to this effort, or if you run a video distribution company like Grouper, Blip.tv, etc., start your own version of the YouTube initiative. I'm personally saddened over the words of hate that some have written in response to clips of the recent Michael Richards rant. We have to do something to counter what seems to be a small movement toward, not away from, racism. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-mB3pDYTne0 Thanks! Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com Do you Yahoo!? Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta. http://new.mail.yahoo.com
Re: [videoblogging] Re: You Tube Anti-Racism Project
Great point! I stand corrected! Z --- Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I know this probably doesn't help your argument, but... there IS actually genetic evidence for race (or whatever you want to call it). It's just that they don't necessarily fall along the lines people are drawing up. Alot of the lines people seem to draw up seem to be based on politics... instead of genetics. And there's alot more interbreeding and mixing going on than most people probably realize. And it's been going on for quite a while. (Take a look at some of the studies using mitochondrial dna.) Also, even though some of the divisions are supported by the genetic data,... some of the people's others tend to group into one race aren't one race according to the genetic data... but are essentially different groups. There's also alot of things Anthropologists wouldn't dare say because of the political ramifications. (For example, Anthropologists wouldn't dare use the word species in describing different people. Also, wouldn't dare push the point that certain langauges developed from Creole languages in certain parts of the world... because that implies a mixing of different people in the past. Etc etc.) I don't think going about this with the scientific card is going to help. It's what people do that matters. What do they do if they are racist? Do they attack people because of it? If they do argue it on a moral point. See ya On 11/26/06, Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I think the bottom line is if we really don't want to see others harmed or cause harm to them -- for whatever silly color or sex reason (there's no scientific support for the idea of race divisions amoung humans) -- we need to take up vlog arms agains the action. We need to be the breakwater. Even if we take the draconian step of accusing those who are that way of being mentally ill. An approach the American Psyciatric Association has discussed and is close to adopting. The claim of 40 percent of their members is that racism is a mental illness. Z --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's part of my problem on trying to find video ways to express the root causes. It is not just skin, but gender, sexual orientation, nationality, age, beauty, celebrity worship... Fox-TV has built its reputation not on true conservative values but by pitting 1/2 of the nation against the other 1/2 that does not think, look or have the same opinions. Define the other as being less than you are or less loyal and you are working the isms. Rush has made $$$ by having so-called humor and commentary at the expense of Latinos, Asians and African-Americans. I am not for censorship. Hate it. But look at the body of his work and tell me that a certain level of society permission was given to think and feel that way. Michael Richards did not blow up in isolation. The Rev that fought gay marriage only to be found humping his way to heaven with a male hooker with side order of meth did not live in isolation. Foley, Gibson, and a bunch more. I got the question but I don't want to fire up this group in that direction. Not my point. I got other questions that are harder to videotape - if there is (and there is) systemic isms embeded in our culture how do you show that to people? Heck of a week. Be careful out there, Gena --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess, for me, it boils down to communicating this question: Would you say something to hurt a person's feelings just because your skin is different than there own? If your answer is yes, then America has a problem... That's how I'd start a vlog. And it's because the bottom line is that some think they have the right to hurt the feeling of others for no good reason. None. It's getting bad. The NYPD just shot a Black man unarmed 50 times -- no explaination. It's as if we're animals. And that's the point, those of us who are not animals must take action to curb those who are. Z --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Very interesting. YT'ers doing a collective mash-up for a cause. They are coming along. Very positive. I have feelings about it - gonna have to find a way to vlog about it. It is one thing to say you are against the isms or === message truncated === Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo
Re: [videoblogging] Re: You Tube Anti-Racism Project
Again, great point, but what point I thought was great was essentially the need to move to a place where people don't focus on such differences. Big deal, in other words. It's interesting that Dogs don't seem to give a damn about breed, yet are thought of as less intelligent than we. I'm starting to question that. We need to move to a point of outlawing racist behavior. Period. Z --- Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Nox, On 11/26/06, Nox Dineen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/26/06, Charles Iliya Krempeaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There's also alot of things Anthropologists wouldn't dare say because of the political ramifications. (For example, Anthropologists wouldn't dare use the word species in describing different people. That's because it would be a wildly inaccurate application of the scientific term species. Or at least, that's what I learned while obtaining a degree in anthropology with a minor in biology (human genetics). I'll probably start using it during my PhD work next year, though, since I'm specialing in cyborg anthropology, and with cybernetics and such you really *are* starting to move into what could be argued is a leap in species. Also, wouldn't dare push the point that certain langauges developed from Creole languages in certain parts of the world... because that implies a mixing of different people in the past. Etc etc.) Care to cite some sources? I can try and give specifics if you're interested in the topic. I can't remember where I was reading it. I think it may have been our a couple different books or papers... and if that's the case I'll have to do some hunting... but... the particular example I was thinking about when I wrote that was that of Proto-Germanic. There's evidence to suggest that Proto-Germanic was a Creole language. And something else I read was arguing that the Germanic people's are a hybrid of (at least) Celtic people and today what we call Iranian people. There were some other arguments citing similarities between the old Aryan religion Zoroastrianisms... and Pre-Christian Germanic mythology (But you say that around some people will have all sorts of political fallout.) After reading some of that, I was actually wondering myself as to whether there was a link between the runes and the ancient Aryan wedge writing (that I can't remember the English name for right now). But I don't know enough about runes to really even guess on it. See ya Every linguistic anthropology class I've ever taken (and my brother's entire study of Near and Middle Eastern history (he specialized in linguistics). Linguistic anthropologists *love* talking about pidgeon and creole as ways to study migration and intermixing of cultures. No offence, but I'd definitely like to see the sources you're basing your comments on. Nox I don't think going about this with the scientific card is going to help. It's what people do that matters. What do they do if they are racist? Do they attack people because of it? If they do argue it on a moral point. See ya On 11/26/06, Zenophon Abraham [EMAIL PROTECTED]thisiswar3005%40yahoo.com wrote: Hi, I think the bottom line is if we really don't want to see others harmed or cause harm to them -- for whatever silly color or sex reason (there's no scientific support for the idea of race divisions amoung humans) -- we need to take up vlog arms agains the action. We need to be the breakwater. Even if we take the draconian step of accusing those who are that way of being mentally ill. An approach the American Psyciatric Association has discussed and is close to adopting. The claim of 40 percent of their members is that racism is a mental illness. Z --- Gena [EMAIL PROTECTED] compumavengal%40earthlink.net wrote: That's part of my problem on trying to find video ways to express the root causes. It is not just skin, but gender, sexual orientation, nationality, age, beauty, celebrity worship... Fox-TV has built its reputation not on true conservative values but by pitting 1/2 of the nation against the other 1/2 that does not think, look or have the same opinions. Define the other as being less than you are or less loyal and you are working the isms. Rush has made $$$ by having so-called humor and commentary at the expense of Latinos, Asians and African-Americans. I am not for censorship. Hate it. But look at the body of his work and tell me that a certain level of society permission was given to think and feel that way. Michael