[videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
Well for me that would boil down to 2 issues. One is what exactly constitutes being a writer. If you just make your show up as you go along, theres no writing involved I guess. Are rough show notes considered writing, or only fullly scripted dialogue etc? The other is whether unions make any sense if you are completely independent and dont work for anybody else. If you dont have anything to negotiate with 3rd parties, dont have a boss, a union would have no function at all? its all so tied to what happens in general with online media, which nobody really knows. If I were looking for a compromise in the current writers strike, it would be to fudge the issue for a few years and have the next contract renewal in not so many years, when its clearer what how much revenue will come from online video. I eman the issue should be a bit more straightforward when we are talking about online shows that are owned by someone and use hired talent to perform various roles, that sort of thing should fit more with current models, and unions should be involved somewhere. But Im not sure the term vlogging will be closely associated with such shows in the longterm, we'll see. As for the idea that people are somehow cheating or being lazy for using lots of writers, well I dont agree with that. Many a fine creative talent has suffered from extreme burnout trying to come up with so much new material. TV has killed the careers of some comedians because of the need for new material all the time, wheras in bygone days of touring your stuff would have a much longer shelflife and could evolve at a saner pace. Cheers Steve Elbows We're vibrating too fast and you know it cant last. --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So it begs the question if vloggers were in a union, which would it be? Writer's Guild? AFTRA? Is it a case-by-case situation?
[videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Yep. New ways of MAKING money call for new ways of DISTRIBUTING profits. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. Interesting side-effect that these shows are based on daily-fresh material, NONE of which is written by the comedians themselves. Therefore, no writers = no show. I'd love to see these guys hold their own show just based on their personal skills at creating and maintaining a conversation, as well as their own research. You'd be surprised how much on-air talent is *completely* dependent on ghost writers. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? How it affects us is that finally, somebody will start seriously looking at how to monetize online video. It wasn't a big deal when it was a bunch of hobbyists _not_ getting paid for putting video on the internet. Now that people who are getting paid to be a part of these MSM productions are getting shorted on their online residuals or whatever writers are supposed to get, a lot of people are going to be focused on how to determine the worth of online video, how to figure out and report demographcs and how to convince advertisers that they can deliver ROI. -- Bill http://billcammack.com http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier, when they underestimated how lucrative home video sales would become and settled for a contract that gives them just three cents of each DVD film sale. The biggest sticking point is new media, new technology, Goldman said after the strike began. Our mantra is, 'if they get paid, we get paid'. Writers get 1.2 percent of revenues from shows streamed online for one-time viewing but get nothing from content downloaded to own from websites such as iTunes. This technology has boomed, Goldman said. We need to get paid for new media, she said, rattling off new-fangled ways movies now are viewed, including webisodes, mobisodes and snippets. More of this is being shown on computer screens and we get nothing, she said. For example, if an entire blockbuster film supported by ads is shown free of charge on the Internet, writers get no money because studios label the display promotional. The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) has refused to discuss anything related to new media in negotiations during the past three months, Goldman said. There is no common ground, the union spokeswoman said. Producers reject the guild's demands as unworkable and too expensive, setting the stage for the first major strike by Hollywood writers in
[videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
Most of the conflict in this dispute is directly related to the growth of the home video market, first VHS and the DVD sales. You are probably going, Umm, Heath they are talking about 'online' video and I know, but the ROOTS of the issue go back to VHS and DVD's. You see when the last contract was agreed upon, VHS sales were just begining, no one knew how much money was to be made and the writers only got a very small residual. And of course the home video market became a HUGE money-maker with the studios. The writers do not want to make the same mistake, and quite frankly neither do the directors or actor's. Their contracts are up this June. This battle is HUGE, HUGE, for Hollywood. I suspect that if the strike goes on for a bit there will be a run at some of the few web stars out there. But I would caution them..cause once the strike is settled and it will settle sooner or later.Hollywood will dump the new talent in a hot minute and they may find the reception a bit chilly from union members. If you have designs of making it in Hollywood, be careful is all I can say. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Yep. New ways of MAKING money call for new ways of DISTRIBUTING profits. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. Interesting side-effect that these shows are based on daily-fresh material, NONE of which is written by the comedians themselves. Therefore, no writers = no show. I'd love to see these guys hold their own show just based on their personal skills at creating and maintaining a conversation, as well as their own research. You'd be surprised how much on-air talent is *completely* dependent on ghost writers. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? How it affects us is that finally, somebody will start seriously looking at how to monetize online video. It wasn't a big deal when it was a bunch of hobbyists _not_ getting paid for putting video on the internet. Now that people who are getting paid to be a part of these MSM productions are getting shorted on their online residuals or whatever writers are supposed to get, a lot of people are going to be focused on how to determine the worth of online video, how to figure out and report demographcs and how to convince advertisers that they can deliver ROI. -- Bill http://billcammack.com http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier,
Re: [videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
And writers may very well see the internet talent that profits out of this situation as scabs, and at worst this could set off an adversarial relationship between traditional content producers and web content producers. It is a tough line to walk here, as there is a tremendous opportunity, but it also could shoot one's self in the foot when this is all over with. There are no clear-cut answers about how to handle this. J On 05/11/2007, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the conflict in this dispute is directly related to the growth of the home video market, first VHS and the DVD sales. You are probably going, Umm, Heath they are talking about 'online' video and I know, but the ROOTS of the issue go back to VHS and DVD's. You see when the last contract was agreed upon, VHS sales were just begining, no one knew how much money was to be made and the writers only got a very small residual. And of course the home video market became a HUGE money-maker with the studios. The writers do not want to make the same mistake, and quite frankly neither do the directors or actor's. Their contracts are up this June. This battle is HUGE, HUGE, for Hollywood. I suspect that if the strike goes on for a bit there will be a run at some of the few web stars out there. But I would caution them..cause once the strike is settled and it will settle sooner or later.Hollywood will dump the new talent in a hot minute and they may find the reception a bit chilly from union members. If you have designs of making it in Hollywood, be careful is all I can say. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Yep. New ways of MAKING money call for new ways of DISTRIBUTING profits. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. Interesting side-effect that these shows are based on daily-fresh material, NONE of which is written by the comedians themselves. Therefore, no writers = no show. I'd love to see these guys hold their own show just based on their personal skills at creating and maintaining a conversation, as well as their own research. You'd be surprised how much on-air talent is *completely* dependent on ghost writers. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? How it affects us is that finally, somebody will start seriously looking at how to monetize online video. It wasn't a big deal when it was a bunch of hobbyists _not_ getting paid for putting video on the internet. Now that people who are getting paid to be a part of these MSM productions are getting shorted on their online residuals or whatever writers are supposed to get, a lot of people are going to be focused on how to determine the worth of online video, how to figure out and report demographcs and how to convince advertisers that they can deliver ROI. -- Bill http://billcammack.com http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically
[videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
--- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And writers may very well see the internet talent that profits out of this situation as scabs, and at worst this could set off an adversarial relationship between traditional content producers and web content producers. Assuming this strike goes on for a while, it'll be interesting to see if there *is* overlap between MSM talent and internet talent. Interestingly enough, we were just discussing the other day the what if of unions getting involved in online video, and now, it's the opposite situation of the potential of online talent influencing the current writers' strike. It is a tough line to walk here, as there is a tremendous opportunity, but it also could shoot one's self in the foot when this is all over with. There are no clear-cut answers about how to handle this. J No doubt. Fortunately, it's not *our* problem... except maybe Tim Street! :D It's the proverbial 'sticky wicket' of the writers wanting a percentage of *something*, and the other side not knowing what that *something* is, in the first place. The writers don't want to get stuck again like they did as Heath mentioned in the VHS situation. Now, people are sitting at home ordering DVD box sets of shows instead of watching those shows on TV. It's going to be 'worse' when people can just download entire seasons of shows via the internet and skip all this Blockbuster/Netflix stuff entirely. Yes. I'm glad it's not MY problem! :D -- Bill http://billcammack.com On 05/11/2007, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the conflict in this dispute is directly related to the growth of the home video market, first VHS and the DVD sales. You are probably going, Umm, Heath they are talking about 'online' video and I know, but the ROOTS of the issue go back to VHS and DVD's. You see when the last contract was agreed upon, VHS sales were just begining, no one knew how much money was to be made and the writers only got a very small residual. And of course the home video market became a HUGE money-maker with the studios. The writers do not want to make the same mistake, and quite frankly neither do the directors or actor's. Their contracts are up this June. This battle is HUGE, HUGE, for Hollywood. I suspect that if the strike goes on for a bit there will be a run at some of the few web stars out there. But I would caution them..cause once the strike is settled and it will settle sooner or later.Hollywood will dump the new talent in a hot minute and they may find the reception a bit chilly from union members. If you have designs of making it in Hollywood, be careful is all I can say. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack BillCammack@ wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Yep. New ways of MAKING money call for new ways of DISTRIBUTING profits. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. Interesting side-effect that these shows are based on daily-fresh material, NONE of which is written by the comedians themselves. Therefore, no writers = no show. I'd love to see these guys hold their own show just based on their personal skills at creating and maintaining a conversation, as well as their own research. You'd be surprised how much on-air talent is *completely* dependent on ghost writers. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? How it affects us is that finally, somebody will start seriously looking at how to monetize online video. It wasn't a big deal when it was a bunch of hobbyists _not_ getting paid for putting video on the internet. Now that people who are getting paid to be a part of these MSM productions are getting shorted on their online residuals or whatever writers are supposed to get, a lot of people are going to be focused on how to determine the worth of online video, how to figure out and report demographcs and how to convince advertisers that they can deliver ROI. -- Bill http://billcammack.com
[videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
Anyone else seeing how bloated the MSM is? They're paying their on air talents who are suppose to be seasoned writers and comedians (Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc) and get whole lot of money to do what they do but they can't even hold their own when some writers leave. Meanwhile some people in new media are creating practically just as good material and they don't need a room full writers, a fancy studio in Burbank or Manhattan, and a $10 million contract. I've always thought its ridiculous the amount of some these people in traditional media get paid. More people are going to look for entertainment options on the web. If the old media doesn't shape up and get rid of all the excess and they are going to become increasingly more irrelevant. Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) � Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier, when they underestimated how lucrative home video sales would become and settled for a contract that gives them just three cents of each DVD film sale. The biggest sticking point is new media, new technology, Goldman said after the strike began. Our mantra is, 'if they get paid, we get paid'. Writers get 1.2 percent of revenues from shows streamed online for one-time viewing but get nothing from content downloaded to own from websites such as iTunes. This technology has boomed, Goldman said. We need to get paid for new media, she said, rattling off new-fangled ways movies now are viewed, including webisodes, mobisodes and snippets. More of this is being shown on computer screens and we get nothing, she said. For example, if an entire blockbuster film supported by ads is shown free of charge on the Internet, writers get no money because studios label the display promotional. The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP) has refused to discuss anything related to new media in negotiations during the past three months, Goldman said. There is no common ground, the union spokeswoman said. Producers reject the guild's demands as unworkable and too expensive, setting the stage for the first major strike by Hollywood writers in nearly 20 years. The strike call came after talks between the guild and the AMPTP broke down hours before an existing agreement expired on October 31. We are very disappointed with ... the action they took, Nicholas Counter, president of the AMPTP, said of the unionists.
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There is one major difference here in all this. I do NOT 'need' Hollywood to distribute my video, audio or any other content. Sure, it helps and they have it down pat, but in the end... if I don't want to associate with the studios or the unions, then I do NOT have to. That is why there has been sooo much uproar from the major studios over everything about iTunes, the internet and Napster. In the days before the Internet, if you wanted to get heard as the artist, you had very little recourse than to go through their channels, IF you wanted or desired to be a big celeb and make big bucks. Of course, my opinion matters very little on this topic as I am neither. (side note, I believe a good writer/author is well worth their weight in salt) The point of this post is that, the writers are striking over something that does makes sense from their business relationship with the studios, but to the rest of the content producers out on the Internet, well, their little squabble with the studios seems trite as I believe most web content producers don't use Union writers and to some degree could care less what happens with the strike. Hell, most content consumers of web content could probably care less as well, because they just might consume *more* web content. It is interesting times to be where we on this list are, web content producers as well as other software producers on the internet. Sorry if this rant seems off, but that is how I see it. Oh and I just joined the list not long ago and this is my first post from the shadows of a lurker. I am into Podcasting and expect to expand into Video as time progresses and I get some good vidoe editing software and skills going. Thanks, Rich Elswick Moya Entertainment http://www.MoyaEntertainment.com http://www.moyaentertainment.com/ On 11/5/07, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And writers may very well see the internet talent that profits out of this situation as scabs, and at worst this could set off an adversarial relationship between traditional content producers and web content producers. It is a tough line to walk here, as there is a tremendous opportunity, but it also could shoot one's self in the foot when this is all over with. There are no clear-cut answers about how to handle this. J On 05/11/2007, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the conflict in this dispute is directly related to the growth of the home video market, first VHS and the DVD sales. You are probably going, Umm, Heath they are talking about 'online' video and I know, but the ROOTS of the issue go back to VHS and DVD's. You see when the last contract was agreed upon, VHS sales were just begining, no one knew how much money was to be made and the writers only got a very small residual. And of course the home video market became a HUGE money-maker with the studios. The writers do not want to make the same mistake, and quite frankly neither do the directors or actor's. Their contracts are up this June. This battle is HUGE, HUGE, for Hollywood. I suspect that if the strike goes on for a bit there will be a run at some of the few web stars out there. But I would caution them..cause once the strike is settled and it will settle sooner or later.Hollywood will dump the new talent in a hot minute and they may find the reception a bit chilly from union members. If you have designs of making it in Hollywood, be careful is all I can say. Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Bill Cammack [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Yep. New ways of MAKING money call for new ways of DISTRIBUTING profits. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. Interesting side-effect that these shows are based on daily-fresh material, NONE of which is written by the comedians themselves. Therefore, no writers = no show. I'd love to see these guys hold their own show just based on their personal skills at creating and maintaining a conversation, as well as their own research. You'd be surprised how much on-air talent is *completely* dependent on ghost writers. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this
[videoblogging] Re: Major Shakeup in Hollywood
I am fascinated by this strike... as an actor I am entirely pro-union and whole heartedly believe that writers and actors deserve their rightful piece of the pie I am also equally enamored by the online video world where most of these production contract lines don't exist (note recent southpark online video contract where the creators receive an unprecedented share of add rev.- I think 50%, correct me if I'm wrong) On line video has the chance to write its own rules...and for most of us online content creators that has meant a far more equal and permanent piece of the pie for all of the production team. Why? because for so many of us online video is about celebrating the true democratization of the entertainment community... however... I also think those of us who are currently smaller content creators are in a precarious position more and more we are competing with the big guys... how do we hold are own? What entices a viewer to turn on synchronis.tv or moya entertainment or batmangeek.com instead of Heroes online? I have a ton of ideas about this which I will get to in the coming weeks... but in the meanwhile an idea was born at podcamp boston last week that could help our community to both empower one another as well as the community at large...for online videos creators, at least at present, the commerce lies in our numbers... how do you increase your numbers? Getting featured in itunes sure helps... How do you get featured in itunes? Well... there are a lot of ways, most of which involve editorial choices on the part of the itunes podcast department.. but one thing that helps is a good number of positive reviews.. so... I created a wiki.. http://reviewitforward.pbwiki.com head over there and list your vodcast... but... by listing your vodcast you are committing to reviewing ten other podcasts on the wiki...now first DO NO HARM! if you don't like the show move on to another podcast but we can have a strong united voice... we can support one another and ourselves while also paving the way for a strong culture of democratization in online video. Maybe its a simple as a wiki... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Rich Elswick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is one major difference here in all this. I do NOT 'need' Hollywood to distribute my video, audio or any other content. Sure, it helps and they have it down pat, but in the end... if I don't want to associate with the studios or the unions, then I do NOT have to. That is why there has been sooo much uproar from the major studios over everything about iTunes, the internet and Napster. In the days before the Internet, if you wanted to get heard as the artist, you had very little recourse than to go through their channels, IF you wanted or desired to be a big celeb and make big bucks. Of course, my opinion matters very little on this topic as I am neither. (side note, I believe a good writer/author is well worth their weight in salt) The point of this post is that, the writers are striking over something that does makes sense from their business relationship with the studios, but to the rest of the content producers out on the Internet, well, their little squabble with the studios seems trite as I believe most web content producers don't use Union writers and to some degree could care less what happens with the strike. Hell, most content consumers of web content could probably care less as well, because they just might consume *more* web content. It is interesting times to be where we on this list are, web content producers as well as other software producers on the internet. Sorry if this rant seems off, but that is how I see it. Oh and I just joined the list not long ago and this is my first post from the shadows of a lurker. I am into Podcasting and expect to expand into Video as time progresses and I get some good vidoe editing software and skills going. Thanks, Rich Elswick Moya Entertainment http://www.MoyaEntertainment.com http://www.moyaentertainment.com/ On 11/5/07, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And writers may very well see the internet talent that profits out of this situation as scabs, and at worst this could set off an adversarial relationship between traditional content producers and web content producers. It is a tough line to walk here, as there is a tremendous opportunity, but it also could shoot one's self in the foot when this is all over with. There are no clear-cut answers about how to handle this. J On 05/11/2007, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the conflict in this dispute is directly related to the growth of the home video market, first VHS and the DVD sales. You are probably going, Umm, Heath they are talking about 'online' video and I know, but the ROOTS of the issue go back to VHS and DVD's. You see when the last contract
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I don't think that's completly fair, I know for me, some of my best writing comes from a group effort. I have a buddy, I run a ton of stuff by and we write a lot of stuff together. I find when we do that we create stuff that is far better than either of us do on our own. And in some cases, the on air talent is friends with the writers, etc. So they are helping each other Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyone else seeing how bloated the MSM is? They're paying their on air talents who are suppose to be seasoned writers and comedians (Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc) and get whole lot of money to do what they do but they can't even hold their own when some writers leave. Meanwhile some people in new media are creating practically just as good material and they don't need a room full writers, a fancy studio in Burbank or Manhattan, and a $10 million contract. I've always thought its ridiculous the amount of some these people in traditional media get paid. More people are going to look for entertainment options on the web. If the old media doesn't shape up and get rid of all the excess and they are going to become increasingly more irrelevant. Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) � Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier, when they underestimated how lucrative home video sales would become and settled for a contract that gives them just three cents of each DVD film sale. The biggest sticking point is new media, new technology, Goldman said after the strike began. Our mantra is, 'if they get paid, we get paid'. Writers get 1.2 percent of revenues from shows streamed online for one-time viewing but get nothing from content downloaded to own from websites such as iTunes. This technology has boomed, Goldman said. We need to get paid for new media, she said, rattling off new-fangled ways movies now are viewed, including webisodes, mobisodes and snippets. More of this is being shown on computer screens and we get nothing, she said. For example, if an entire blockbuster film supported by ads is shown free of charge on the Internet, writers get no money because studios label the display promotional. The Alliance of Motion Picture and Television Producers (AMPTP)
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AP: Writer's Deal Could Impact Other Unions: http://www.philly.com/philly/wires/ap/business/20071104_ap_writersdealcouldimpactotherunions.html Also, there's Tweets on Twitter on the writers strike at http://twitter.com/writersstrike And finally, an article from the Huffington post on Show Runners, like 30 Rock's Tina Faye, who both produce and write television programs. I include this link because many videobloggers are their own writers and producers, etc. etc. : http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2007/11/05/show-runners-forced-to-_n_71124.html So it begs the question if vloggers were in a union, which would it be? Writer's Guild? AFTRA? Is it a case-by-case situation? On 05/11/2007, synchronistv [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am fascinated by this strike... as an actor I am entirely pro-union and whole heartedly believe that writers and actors deserve their rightful piece of the pie I am also equally enamored by the online video world where most of these production contract lines don't exist (note recent southpark online video contract where the creators receive an unprecedented share of add rev.- I think 50%, correct me if I'm wrong) On line video has the chance to write its own rules...and for most of us online content creators that has meant a far more equal and permanent piece of the pie for all of the production team. Why? because for so many of us online video is about celebrating the true democratization of the entertainment community... however... I also think those of us who are currently smaller content creators are in a precarious position more and more we are competing with the big guys... how do we hold are own? What entices a viewer to turn on synchronis.tv or moya entertainment or batmangeek.com instead of Heroes online? I have a ton of ideas about this which I will get to in the coming weeks... but in the meanwhile an idea was born at podcamp boston last week that could help our community to both empower one another as well as the community at large...for online videos creators, at least at present, the commerce lies in our numbers... how do you increase your numbers? Getting featured in itunes sure helps... How do you get featured in itunes? Well... there are a lot of ways, most of which involve editorial choices on the part of the itunes podcast department.. but one thing that helps is a good number of positive reviews.. so... I created a wiki.. http://reviewitforward.pbwiki.com head over there and list your vodcast... but... by listing your vodcast you are committing to reviewing ten other podcasts on the wiki...now first DO NO HARM! if you don't like the show move on to another podcast but we can have a strong united voice... we can support one another and ourselves while also paving the way for a strong culture of democratization in online video. Maybe its a simple as a wiki... --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Rich Elswick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There is one major difference here in all this. I do NOT 'need' Hollywood to distribute my video, audio or any other content. Sure, it helps and they have it down pat, but in the end... if I don't want to associate with the studios or the unions, then I do NOT have to. That is why there has been sooo much uproar from the major studios over everything about iTunes, the internet and Napster. In the days before the Internet, if you wanted to get heard as the artist, you had very little recourse than to go through their channels, IF you wanted or desired to be a big celeb and make big bucks. Of course, my opinion matters very little on this topic as I am neither. (side note, I believe a good writer/author is well worth their weight in salt) The point of this post is that, the writers are striking over something that does makes sense from their business relationship with the studios, but to the rest of the content producers out on the Internet, well, their little squabble with the studios seems trite as I believe most web content producers don't use Union writers and to some degree could care less what happens with the strike. Hell, most content consumers of web content could probably care less as well, because they just might consume *more* web content. It is interesting times to be where we on this list are, web content producers as well as other software producers on the internet. Sorry if this rant seems off, but that is how I see it. Oh and I just joined the list not long ago and this is my first post from the shadows of a lurker. I am into Podcasting and expect to expand into Video as time progresses and I get some good vidoe editing software and skills going. Thanks, Rich Elswick Moya Entertainment http://www.MoyaEntertainment.com http://www.moyaentertainment.com/ On 11/5/07, Jeffrey Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And
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Heath, Agreed. I was probably a little unfair. You're absolutely right writing is often a group effort. However, these stars get substantially more money and credit for something that is a group effort. Terry Ann Rendon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think that's completly fair, I know for me, some of my best writing comes from a group effort. I have a buddy, I run a ton of stuff by and we write a lot of stuff together. I find when we do that we create stuff that is far better than either of us do on our own. And in some cases, the on air talent is friends with the writers, etc. So they are helping each other Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon terry.rendon@ wrote: Anyone else seeing how bloated the MSM is? They're paying their on air talents who are suppose to be seasoned writers and comedians (Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc) and get whole lot of money to do what they do but they can't even hold their own when some writers leave. Meanwhile some people in new media are creating practically just as good material and they don't need a room full writers, a fancy studio in Burbank or Manhattan, and a $10 million contract. I've always thought its ridiculous the amount of some these people in traditional media get paid. More people are going to look for entertainment options on the web. If the old media doesn't shape up and get rid of all the excess and they are going to become increasingly more irrelevant. Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) � Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier, when they underestimated how lucrative home video sales would become and settled for a contract that gives them just three cents of each DVD film sale. The biggest sticking point is new media, new technology, Goldman said after the strike began. Our mantra is, 'if they get paid, we get paid'. Writers get 1.2 percent of revenues from shows streamed online for one-time viewing but get nothing from content downloaded to own from websites such as iTunes. This technology has boomed, Goldman said. We need to get paid for new media, she said, rattling off
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A lot of these stars are in the writers guild as well. They wont be doing any writing either. David http://www.taoofdavid.com http://www.davidhowellstudios.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heath, Agreed. I was probably a little unfair. You're absolutely right writing is often a group effort. However, these stars get substantially more money and credit for something that is a group effort. Terry Ann Rendon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: I don't think that's completly fair, I know for me, some of my best writing comes from a group effort. I have a buddy, I run a ton of stuff by and we write a lot of stuff together. I find when we do that we create stuff that is far better than either of us do on our own. And in some cases, the on air talent is friends with the writers, etc. So they are helping each other Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon terry.rendon@ wrote: Anyone else seeing how bloated the MSM is? They're paying their on air talents who are suppose to be seasoned writers and comedians (Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc) and get whole lot of money to do what they do but they can't even hold their own when some writers leave. Meanwhile some people in new media are creating practically just as good material and they don't need a room full writers, a fancy studio in Burbank or Manhattan, and a $10 million contract. I've always thought its ridiculous the amount of some these people in traditional media get paid. More people are going to look for entertainment options on the web. If the old media doesn't shape up and get rid of all the excess and they are going to become increasingly more irrelevant. Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the-minute scripts. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) � Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier, when they underestimated how lucrative home video sales would become and settled for a contract that gives them just three cents of each DVD film sale. The biggest sticking point is new media, new technology, Goldman said after the strike
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I think the online media world does itself a disservice by comparing itself to MSM or seeing the potential of online media as related to the relative health or relevance of MSM. The only thing the two worlds have in common is that they can make and distribute images and sounds. In all other respects, they are worlds apart, and this is a very very good thing for the long term health of independent media online. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com
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Agreed, as well.of course if someone offered me 10 million dollars to be me.well, I'd know in my heart I didn't deserve it, but somehow I think I could live with it... ;) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heath, Agreed. I was probably a little unfair. You're absolutely right writing is often a group effort. However, these stars get substantially more money and credit for something that is a group effort. Terry Ann Rendon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: I don't think that's completly fair, I know for me, some of my best writing comes from a group effort. I have a buddy, I run a ton of stuff by and we write a lot of stuff together. I find when we do that we create stuff that is far better than either of us do on our own. And in some cases, the on air talent is friends with the writers, etc. So they are helping each other Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon terry.rendon@ wrote: Anyone else seeing how bloated the MSM is? They're paying their on air talents who are suppose to be seasoned writers and comedians (Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc) and get whole lot of money to do what they do but they can't even hold their own when some writers leave. Meanwhile some people in new media are creating practically just as good material and they don't need a room full writers, a fancy studio in Burbank or Manhattan, and a $10 million contract. I've always thought its ridiculous the amount of some these people in traditional media get paid. More people are going to look for entertainment options on the web. If the old media doesn't shape up and get rid of all the excess and they are going to become increasingly more irrelevant. Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the- minute scripts. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) � Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular phones, and other new media outlets. Producers acknowledge that online viewing is increasing and promise to study the issue, but argue that it is too early to say how profitable it will be. Writers are determined not to repeat a mistake made decades earlier, when they underestimated how lucrative home video sales would become and settled for a contract that gives them just three cents of each DVD film sale. The biggest
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And that's exactly what's going to be happening more and more in the next 3-5 years, Heath. This is why, in my opinion, we need to set clear and well-established values (for lack of a better term) in the online space that are so strong that the MSM cannot impose their own values online. On 05/11/2007, Heath [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Agreed, as well.of course if someone offered me 10 million dollars to be me.well, I'd know in my heart I didn't deserve it, but somehow I think I could live with it... ;) Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Heath, Agreed. I was probably a little unfair. You're absolutely right writing is often a group effort. However, these stars get substantially more money and credit for something that is a group effort. Terry Ann Rendon --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Heath heathparks@ wrote: I don't think that's completly fair, I know for me, some of my best writing comes from a group effort. I have a buddy, I run a ton of stuff by and we write a lot of stuff together. I find when we do that we create stuff that is far better than either of us do on our own. And in some cases, the on air talent is friends with the writers, etc. So they are helping each other Heath http://batmangeek.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.com videoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, terry.rendon terry.rendon@ wrote: Anyone else seeing how bloated the MSM is? They're paying their on air talents who are suppose to be seasoned writers and comedians (Jon Stewart, Jay Leno, etc) and get whole lot of money to do what they do but they can't even hold their own when some writers leave. Meanwhile some people in new media are creating practically just as good material and they don't need a room full writers, a fancy studio in Burbank or Manhattan, and a $10 million contract. I've always thought its ridiculous the amount of some these people in traditional media get paid. More people are going to look for entertainment options on the web. If the old media doesn't shape up and get rid of all the excess and they are going to become increasingly more irrelevant. Terry Rendon www.terryannonline.com --- In videoblogging@yahoogroups.comvideoblogging%40yahoogroups.com, Andrew Baron andrew@ wrote: The major studio writers are on strike starting today. They are interested in obtaining royalties or monetary compensation for their work that airs online. I think the studios are moving slow and can not agree on how money will be made in the future are have been unwilling to commit. Most of these people have contracts with terms well into the future that were defined a long time ago and thus have terms that make no mention of use online. Many major TV shows, including The Daily Show, may need to revert to reruns today because they depend on writers for up-to-the- minute scripts. This is really a major shakeup for the industry. Many people expect this to go unresolved for months. What will happen next? How does or can this effect videobloggers? http://news.google.com/news?hl=enq=writers +strikeum=1ie=UTF-8sa=Ntab=wn Hollywood writers' strike begins as talks collapse 2 hours ago LOS ANGELES (AFP) � Hollywood writers went on strike Monday after last-minute talks aimed at ending a standoff between studios and wordsmiths collapsed, with the union demanding a share of cash brought in from DVDs and online distribution of shows. The strike is on, Writers Guild of America spokeswoman Sherry Goldman told AFP. The strike deadline was a minute into Monday in each US time zone, meaning writers in New York City were the first to walk off their jobs, according to Goldman. An 11th-hour negotiating session was held with the help of a federal mediator Sunday, but it broke down without achieving any results. Members of the 12,000-strong union plan to begin picketing Monday morning at major studios in the Los Angeles area and outside NBC studio at Rockefeller Center in Manhattan. The first casualties of the walk-out are likely to be talk shows, soap operas, and comedy programs that rely on fresh scripts. Major motion picture studios and television programs typically have stockpiles of scripts that can insulate them from feeling the effects of the strike for a year or longer. Writers want a greater share of residual profits from television series sold on DVDs and money made from programs shown on the Internet, cellular
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Hi Brook! I think we do ourselves a huge disservice by not comparing and contrasting to MSM. In five to ten years, maybe less, all media will be consumed on demand and from a single portal. A viewer will not know the difference between MSM and independent creators. If, as independent creators who are passionate about creating media without a gatekeeper that speaks to our own particular voices, we are not careful to establish ourselves as separate from MSM and with our own unique attributes we may soon find ourselves launching our media into a viewerless void. Kathryn synchronis.tv's inaugural series 35 is available on itunes. Kathryn Velvel Jones synchronis.tv [EMAIL PROTECTED] 917-992-2217 synchronis.tv's production of 35 is co-produced by The Digital Film Academy New York and Istanbul The Digital Film Academy Join the Evolution On Nov 5, 2007, at 3:08 PM, Brook Hinton wrote: I think the online media world does itself a disservice by comparing itself to MSM or seeing the potential of online media as related to the relative health or relevance of MSM. The only thing the two worlds have in common is that they can make and distribute images and sounds. In all other respects, they are worlds apart, and this is a very very good thing for the long term health of independent media online. Brook ___ Brook Hinton film/video/audio art www.brookhinton.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
