[whatwg] ad

2014-12-05 Thread Jens Oliver Meiert
Has there ever been a discussion about a dedicated element for ads, like ad?

I’d like to review or otherwise propose the element, for at least on
the surface, advertising may warrant dedicated markup.

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Re: [whatwg] ad

2014-12-05 Thread Jukka K. Korpela

2014-12-05, 11:41, Jens Oliver Meiert wrote:


Has there ever been a discussion about a dedicated element for ads, like ad?


Probably. What specific purposes would it serve?

The most obvious way of utilizing such markup, assuming it were commonly 
used, would be to have


ad { display: none }

in a user style sheet. I think this suffices to show why such markup 
would not be used.


Yucca




Re: [whatwg] ad

2014-12-05 Thread Cory Sand
On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 4:45 AM, Jukka K. Korpela jkorp...@cs.tut.fi wrote:

 2014-12-05, 11:41, Jens Oliver Meiert wrote:

  Has there ever been a discussion about a dedicated element for ads, like
 ad?


 Probably. What specific purposes would it serve?


Yes. This question has been addressed in the rationale section of the wiki,
here
https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Rationale#Why_isn.E2.80.99t_there_a_dedicated_element_for_advertisements.3F_.28e.g..2C_.3Cad.3E.2C_or_.3Cadvert.3E.2C_or_.3Cbanner.3E.2C_or_whatever.29
.


 The most obvious way of utilizing such markup, assuming it were commonly
 used, would be to have

 ad { display: none }

 in a user style sheet. I think this suffices to show why such markup would
 not be used.


Yup, that's about the size of it, and why the proposal was rejected.

Cory


 Yucca





Re: [whatwg] HTML tags.Panorama, Photo Sphere, Surround shots

2014-12-05 Thread Roger Hågensen

On 2014-11-18 06:57, Paul Benedict wrote:

Is it really the responsibility of HTML to be told about this? I wouldn't
think so. My initial thoughts are that all such information should be
encoded in the file format of the image. I am not saying such information
exists (maybe partially though), but that's where I think it should reside.


Cheers,
Paul



Yeah! Ideally a browser (or client) should be able to request the meta 
information for a image (if available), this would probably be better 
suited as part of HTTP/2.
Instead of a HEAD request a client could do a META request which would 
be the same as a HEAD request but with all meta info the server can 
provide about the file (like lens/ISO etc. info).
Server side something like Apache could let a handler fetch that info 
from a JPG file (maybe even a caching proxy to speed things up). A 
key:value pair would make sense I guess (with maybe a Meta- prefix).
But yeah in HTML itself such would just really bloat up the HTML page 
itself (and one could always use AJAX and serverside scripting or 
similar to fetch such meta info).



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Re: [whatwg] ad

2014-12-05 Thread Jens Oliver Meiert
 https://wiki.whatwg.org/wiki/Rationale#Why_isn.E2.80.99t_there_a_dedicated_element_for_advertisements.3F_.28e.g..2C_.3Cad.3E.2C_or_.3Cadvert.3E.2C_or_.3Cbanner.3E.2C_or_whatever.29

I thought we may have touched it. That makes sense. Though I didn’t
instantly think of the user style sheet one-liner ad would be
begging for.

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