[Wikidata] units

2023-01-24 Thread Olaf Simons
Dear SPARQLists

could you help me with the trick that will bring units into this search?

https://tinyurl.com/2globymn


The Tutorial 
(https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/SPARQL/WIKIDATA_Precision,_Units_and_Coordinates#Quantities)
 tells me that I will even manage conversions - once I understand how I get the 
units into the picture...

much obliged, 
Olaf






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[Wikidata] Units

2015-12-20 Thread John Erling Blad
Can someone give an explanation why development of units are so difficult,
or what seems to be the problem? Is there anything other people can do?

It seems to me like this has a serious feature creep...

https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77977
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Re: [Wikidata] Units

2015-12-20 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:08 AM, John Erling Blad  wrote:
> Can someone give an explanation why development of units are so difficult,
> or what seems to be the problem? Is there anything other people can do?
>
> It seems to me like this has a serious feature creep...
>
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77977

We have done the minimum version and deployed it. You're able to enter
and retrieve information with quantities and units. Now that the
minimum is in place other things got higher priority. That was/is
mainly data quality, properly linking to other sources in out export
formats and a UI cleanup including separating out identifiers. Those
are still in progress. Once we've brought those further along we'll
pick up the remaining work for units as well.
The main thing that is left now is unit conversion for the query service.


Cheers
Lydia

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Re: [Wikidata] Units

2015-12-20 Thread John Erling Blad
Sorry for long rant!

1. How do I get/set the list of base units (try "foot" and then ask
yourself "which foot is this?" [4])
2. How do I get/set derived units (Siemens is the inverse of Ohm, that is
S=Ω⁻¹ [3])
3. How do I add prefixed units (1kΩ, and 1mΩ, and note there is a bunch of
non-standard prefixes - not to forget localized ones! [5] I hate the mess
on Wikipedia... And note the mess with kilogram[7])
4. How to normalize a unit (it is (nearly) always µF, even when you write
4700µF [6] - this text is so messy and it does not really address the
problem)
5. Is there any plan to handle deprecated units (the weight prototype
gaining weight[1], and the new proposed standard [2] is one known problem
6. How to disambiguate units (the feet-problem in another version)
7. Is there any plan to add warnings about units that needs disambiguation
(the feet-problem is well-known, but how about kilogram? And note that is
the kilogram that is the standard unit, not the gram.)
8. How to handle incompatibilities between unit systems (you can't convert
some old units to newer ones.)

On 1, perhaps we could make Wd-entries for the different feets, but then
the lookup-list will be very long. Old classical units for length, area,
volume, and weight are the biggest problems. Some of them also coincide
with 8, as accurate conversions isn't possible.

On 2, some derived units can be transformed from one form into another.
Siemens is one of them. Others can be expressed in different ways, but all
variants is really just one and the same. We could use aliases for this, as
for example Farad (F) is s⁴A²⋅m⁻²kg⁻¹ and a bunch of other. An other
solution is to cluster descriptions, that makes a better solution for 1.

On 3, the simple solution is to add the SI-prefixes to everything. It
almost works, except we have units like kilogram (kg) which should retain
the "k". It will also create problems with kph and a bunch of other such
localized units.

On 4, don't confuse normalization of the unit with normalization of the
value. Normalization of the unit is highly domain specific.

On 5, note that there is a subtle difference here between an unit that goes
out of common use and a unit that is deprecated through law. Not sure if we
need to differentiate those, hope not!

On 6, I think foot is a good example on how long this list can be. Note
that in some countries different trade unions used different length of a
foot, and even some cities defined their own foot. I would like to define
my foot as the new standard unit.

On 7, note that the accuracy (error bounds) on the number should trigger a
need for disambiguation. Also note that precision imply a set level of
accuracy. Accuracy and precision is not the same, but precision can be used
as a proxy for accuracy.

On 8, there are several posts about this problem. Some claim you can avoid
the problem by setting the accuracy in the conversion sufficiently high. I
don't think that would be a valid solution. Perhaps we should have a
property for valid conversions, with constants for each one of them and
with proper error bounds. If a conversion isn't listed, then it isn't valid.

[1] http://www.livescience.com/26017-kilogram-gained-weight.html
[2]
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3161130/Reinventing-kilogram-Official-unit-weight-measurement-new-accurate-definition-following-breakthrough.html
[3] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Siemens_%28unit%29
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Foot_%28unit%29
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decametre
[6] https://www.westfloridacomponents.com/blog/is-mf-mfd-the-same-as-uf/
[7] http://www.bipm.org/en/bipm/mass/ipk/

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 11:57 AM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 10:08 AM, John Erling Blad 
> wrote:
> > Can someone give an explanation why development of units are so
> difficult,
> > or what seems to be the problem? Is there anything other people can do?
> >
> > It seems to me like this has a serious feature creep...
> >
> > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T77977
>
> We have done the minimum version and deployed it. You're able to enter
> and retrieve information with quantities and units. Now that the
> minimum is in place other things got higher priority. That was/is
> mainly data quality, properly linking to other sources in out export
> formats and a UI cleanup including separating out identifiers. Those
> are still in progress. Once we've brought those further along we'll
> pick up the remaining work for units as well.
> The main thing that is left now is unit conversion for the query service.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
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> Product Manager for Wikidata
>
> Wikimedia Deutschland e.V.
> Tempelhofer Ufer 23-24
> 10963 Berlin
> www.wikimedia.de
>
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Re: [Wikidata] Units

2015-12-20 Thread John Erling Blad
Ok, still not working properly.

On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:23 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> On Sun, Dec 20, 2015 at 5:08 PM, John Erling Blad 
> wrote:
> > Sorry for long rant!
> >
> > 1. How do I get/set the list of base units (try "foot" and then ask
> yourself
> > "which foot is this?" [4])
> > 2. How do I get/set derived units (Siemens is the inverse of Ohm, that is
> > S=Ω⁻¹ [3])
> > 3. How do I add prefixed units (1kΩ, and 1mΩ, and note there is a bunch
> of
> > non-standard prefixes - not to forget localized ones! [5] I hate the
> mess on
> > Wikipedia... And note the mess with kilogram[7])
> > 4. How to normalize a unit (it is (nearly) always µF, even when you write
> > 4700µF [6] - this text is so messy and it does not really address the
> > problem)
> > 5. Is there any plan to handle deprecated units (the weight prototype
> > gaining weight[1], and the new proposed standard [2] is one known problem
> > 6. How to disambiguate units (the feet-problem in another version)
> > 7. Is there any plan to add warnings about units that needs
> disambiguation
> > (the feet-problem is well-known, but how about kilogram? And note that is
> > the kilogram that is the standard unit, not the gram.)
> > 8. How to handle incompatibilities between unit systems (you can't
> convert
> > some old units to newer ones.)
>
> That's why I said a minimal version is live. In due time we'll get to
> these but they're not more important than the other things I
> mentioned.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
>
> --
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-21 Thread Gil Francopoulo

Hi,

I agree with Gerard.

Could someone tell us where to find information about the data migration 
from Freebase to Wikidata?


This subject seems to be particularly taboo.

Gil



Le 20/09/2015 21:24, Gerard Meijssen a écrit :

Hoi,
Nitpicking.. I do not have a Wikipedia account, I have multiple all 
together in a SUL account.


When a discussion takes place you effectively kill it by saying: 
nanana this is where I will not react and read it. I have a 
phabricator account and it is not as convenient as good old mail.


Some insist on Phabricator, some on Meta, Mail, Wikidata.. The point 
is that we want that discussion. When you insist on concentrating, you 
get situations where you are blamed for the choices you make. Choices 
that may be unfortunate. And you will complain: but I told you that 
the discussion was at Phabricator

Thanks.
 GerardM

On 20 September 2015 at 21:13, Daniel Kinzler 
> wrote:


Am 20.09.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
> Hoi,
> It is certainly one way to exclude many people who might be
interested.

Focusing a discussion in one place is a bad thing? I find it
rather problematic
if conversations are scattered across several places. It makes it
easy to miss
half of it, especially when trying to read up later.

You are welcome to keep this list in sync with the phabricator
ticket if you
think it's important. I suggest to make a separate threat with a
meaningful
subject line for that.

BTW: I think you can sign into phabricator using your wikipedia
account.  That
should allow most interrested people to particupate without having
to create a
new account. I'm not quite sure of the details though.

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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-21 Thread Thomas Douillard
On the other hand the users, especially on some specific domains, are
probably the one who knows how the uncertainty data are used and
represented in their field and could give good inputs of what they would
need, both on the UI and on the technical side. With discussion on a
project tracker we may have a big bias on computer-tecchi members on the
community.

2015-09-21 12:40 GMT+02:00 Daniel Kinzler :

> Am 21.09.2015 um 12:08 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
> > Focussing such a discussion in Phabricator is a bad thing
> > .
> > To my mind, discussion of how Wikdiata represents statements should be
> > conducted on Wikidata; Phabricator should be used for discussion of
> > how, in coding terms, to enact the consensus at Wikidata.
>
> As long as we can agree on one place, it's fine with me. I was pointing to
> Phabricator because the discussion about deriving uncertainty intervals
> from the
> dignificant digits of decimal notation has been going on there for some
> weeks
> and months already.
>
> Also, the issue does seem rather technical to me. It's a question of how to
> interpret the decimal (and scientific) notation of measured quantities when
> parsing user input.
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-21 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 21.09.2015 um 12:08 schrieb Andy Mabbett:
> Focussing such a discussion in Phabricator is a bad thing
> .
> To my mind, discussion of how Wikdiata represents statements should be
> conducted on Wikidata; Phabricator should be used for discussion of
> how, in coding terms, to enact the consensus at Wikidata.

As long as we can agree on one place, it's fine with me. I was pointing to
Phabricator because the discussion about deriving uncertainty intervals from the
dignificant digits of decimal notation has been going on there for some weeks
and months already.

Also, the issue does seem rather technical to me. It's a question of how to
interpret the decimal (and scientific) notation of measured quantities when
parsing user input.

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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-21 Thread Andy Mabbett
On 20 September 2015 at 20:13, Daniel Kinzler
 wrote:

>> It is certainly one way to exclude many people who might be interested.
>
> Focusing a discussion in one place is a bad thing?

Focussing such a discussion in Phabricator is a bad thing
.
To my mind, discussion of how Wikdiata represents statements should be
conducted on Wikidata; Phabricator should be used for discussion of
how, in coding terms, to enact the consensus at Wikidata.

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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-20 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 20.09.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
> Hoi,
> It is certainly one way to exclude many people who might be interested.

Focusing a discussion in one place is a bad thing? I find it rather problematic
if conversations are scattered across several places. It makes it easy to miss
half of it, especially when trying to read up later.

You are welcome to keep this list in sync with the phabricator ticket if you
think it's important. I suggest to make a separate threat with a meaningful
subject line for that.

BTW: I think you can sign into phabricator using your wikipedia account.  That
should allow most interrested people to particupate without having to create a
new account. I'm not quite sure of the details though.

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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-20 Thread Daniel Kinzler
I replied at https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623. Lets keep the discussion
there.

Am 19.09.2015 um 21:14 schrieb Michael Peel:
> 
>> On 19 Sep 2015, at 19:16, Daniel Kinzler  wrote:
>>
>> Am 19.09.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Egon Willighagen:
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Michael Peel >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>It seems to assume a default uncertainty on values, though: I just added 
>>> the
>>>elevation above sea level to:
>>>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1513315
>>>just specifying the central value, and it assumes that this value is +- 
>>> 0.1
>>>km - which isn't a good assumption to make...
>>>
>>>
>>> Did you mean to write 2.80 km about sea level? Then the error would be 0.01 
>>> km
>>>  I am guessing the uncertainty follows the scientific notation of the
>>> number... 2.8 has the numeric uncertainty of (about) +/- 0.1...
>>>
>>> That sounds like a reasonable approach to me...
>>
>> Yes, the uncertainty follows the scientific convention about significant 
>> digits.
> 
> Taking that approach is a *really* bad idea. You can't just assume/make up 
> uncertainties!
> 
> As an example, say you have a length of 100m. Which significant digit do you 
> assume is correct? Is this +- 100m, 10m or 1m? What if it's referring to the 
> length of a 100m run, where the accuracy could be much higher than the 
> significant digit given, e.g. 100m +- 1cm? Or what if it's the size of a 
> crater on a distant planet, where it might be 100m+-50m? Or if the actual 
> value is 100m +- 3m, but we say that it's +- 1m (which I see is the default 
> in this case), which might be believable to readers but very misleading in 
> reality?
> 
>> We are currently thinking about adjusting this a bit, see
>> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623
> 
> As thiemowmde says there:
> "The fact that the parser "guesses" a precision based on basically zero 
> information always was and still is wrong. It must default to ±0. Everything 
> else is misleading and a source of significant confusion and actual errors."
> ... although perhaps a better approach if possible might be to default to -1, 
> or something else indicating the absence of data.
> 
> Thanks,
> Mike
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi,
Nitpicking.. I do not have a Wikipedia account, I have multiple all
together in a SUL account.

When a discussion takes place you effectively kill it by saying: nanana
this is where I will not react and read it. I have a phabricator account
and it is not as convenient as good old mail.

Some insist on Phabricator, some on Meta, Mail, Wikidata.. The point is
that we want that discussion. When you insist on concentrating, you get
situations where you are blamed for the choices you make. Choices that may
be unfortunate. And you will complain: but I told you that the discussion
was at Phabricator
Thanks.
 GerardM

On 20 September 2015 at 21:13, Daniel Kinzler 
wrote:

> Am 20.09.2015 um 20:52 schrieb Gerard Meijssen:
> > Hoi,
> > It is certainly one way to exclude many people who might be interested.
>
> Focusing a discussion in one place is a bad thing? I find it rather
> problematic
> if conversations are scattered across several places. It makes it easy to
> miss
> half of it, especially when trying to read up later.
>
> You are welcome to keep this list in sync with the phabricator ticket if
> you
> think it's important. I suggest to make a separate threat with a meaningful
> subject line for that.
>
> BTW: I think you can sign into phabricator using your wikipedia account.
> That
> should allow most interrested people to particupate without having to
> create a
> new account. I'm not quite sure of the details though.
>
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>
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-19 Thread Michael Peel

> On 19 Sep 2015, at 19:16, Daniel Kinzler  wrote:
> 
> Am 19.09.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Egon Willighagen:
>> 
>> 
>> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Michael Peel > > wrote:
>> 
>>It seems to assume a default uncertainty on values, though: I just added 
>> the
>>elevation above sea level to:
>>https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1513315
>>just specifying the central value, and it assumes that this value is +- 
>> 0.1
>>km - which isn't a good assumption to make...
>> 
>> 
>> Did you mean to write 2.80 km about sea level? Then the error would be 0.01 
>> km
>>  I am guessing the uncertainty follows the scientific notation of the
>> number... 2.8 has the numeric uncertainty of (about) +/- 0.1...
>> 
>> That sounds like a reasonable approach to me...
> 
> Yes, the uncertainty follows the scientific convention about significant 
> digits.

Taking that approach is a *really* bad idea. You can't just assume/make up 
uncertainties!

As an example, say you have a length of 100m. Which significant digit do you 
assume is correct? Is this +- 100m, 10m or 1m? What if it's referring to the 
length of a 100m run, where the accuracy could be much higher than the 
significant digit given, e.g. 100m +- 1cm? Or what if it's the size of a crater 
on a distant planet, where it might be 100m+-50m? Or if the actual value is 
100m +- 3m, but we say that it's +- 1m (which I see is the default in this 
case), which might be believable to readers but very misleading in reality?

> We are currently thinking about adjusting this a bit, see
> https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623

As thiemowmde says there:
"The fact that the parser "guesses" a precision based on basically zero 
information always was and still is wrong. It must default to ±0. Everything 
else is misleading and a source of significant confusion and actual errors."
... although perhaps a better approach if possible might be to default to -1, 
or something else indicating the absence of data.

Thanks,
Mike


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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-19 Thread Daniel Kinzler
Am 19.09.2015 um 10:27 schrieb Egon Willighagen:
> 
> 
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Michael Peel  > wrote:
> 
> It seems to assume a default uncertainty on values, though: I just added 
> the
> elevation above sea level to:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1513315
> just specifying the central value, and it assumes that this value is +- 
> 0.1
> km - which isn't a good assumption to make...
> 
> 
> Did you mean to write 2.80 km about sea level? Then the error would be 0.01 km
>  I am guessing the uncertainty follows the scientific notation of the
> number... 2.8 has the numeric uncertainty of (about) +/- 0.1...
> 
> That sounds like a reasonable approach to me...

Yes, the uncertainty follows the scientific convention about significant digits.
We are currently thinking about adjusting this a bit, see
https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T105623

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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-19 Thread Michael Peel

> On 9 Sep 2015, at 22:08, Lydia Pintscher  wrote:
> 
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Lydia Pintscher
>  wrote:
>> Hey everyone :)
>> 
>> As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
>> Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
>> height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.
>> 
>> Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
>> are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
>> you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.
> 
> For anyone who is curious: Here is the list of properties already
> created since unit support is available:
> https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListProperties/quantity=50=103
> and here is the list of properties that were waiting on unit support:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2
> Those should change over the next hours/days.

Sweet!

It seems to assume a default uncertainty on values, though: I just added the 
elevation above sea level to:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1513315
just specifying the central value, and it assumes that this value is +- 0.1 km 
- which isn't a good assumption to make...

Thanks,
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-19 Thread Egon Willighagen
On Tue, Sep 15, 2015 at 10:12 PM, Michael Peel  wrote:

> It seems to assume a default uncertainty on values, though: I just added
> the elevation above sea level to:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Q1513315
> just specifying the central value, and it assumes that this value is +-
> 0.1 km - which isn't a good assumption to make...
>

Did you mean to write 2.80 km about sea level? Then the error would be 0.01
km  I am guessing the uncertainty follows the scientific notation of
the number... 2.8 has the numeric uncertainty of (about) +/- 0.1...

That sounds like a reasonable approach to me...

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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread Amir Ladsgroup
I probably won't sleep tonight :)

Best

On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:48 AM Stryn <strynw...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Wow, finally, great!
> I've been waiting for units so long.  I'm already in my bed, so will try
> tomorrow then :-)
>
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> Hey everyone :)
>
> As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
> Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
> height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.
>
> Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
> are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
> you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.
>
>
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread Leila Zia
This is very good news, congratulations! :-)

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 1:26 PM, Amir Ladsgroup <ladsgr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I probably won't sleep tonight :)
>
> Best
>
> On Thu, Sep 10, 2015 at 12:48 AM Stryn <strynw...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wow, finally, great!
>> I've been waiting for units so long.  I'm already in my bed, so will try
>> tomorrow then :-)
>>
>> Stryn 
>> Sent from Windows Phone
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>> <wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org>
>> Aihe: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/
>>
>> Hey everyone :)
>>
>> As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
>> Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
>> height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.
>>
>> Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
>> are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
>> you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lydia
>>
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread Stryn
Wow, finally, great!
I've been waiting for units so long.  I'm already in my bed, so will try 
tomorrow then :-)

Stryn  
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Aihe: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

Hey everyone :)

As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.

Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.


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[Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread Lydia Pintscher
Hey everyone :)

As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.

Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.


Cheers
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread Lydia Pintscher
On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Lydia Pintscher
 wrote:
> Hey everyone :)
>
> As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
> Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
> height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.
>
> Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
> are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
> you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.

For anyone who is curious: Here is the list of properties already
created since unit support is available:
https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListProperties/quantity=50=103
and here is the list of properties that were waiting on unit support:
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2
Those should change over the next hours/days.


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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread David Cuenca Tudela
Just created "area" after two years of waiting! yay! congratulations! \o/

On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:

> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Lydia Pintscher
>  wrote:
> > Hey everyone :)
> >
> > As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
> > Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
> > height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.
> >
> > Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
> > are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
> > you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.
>
> For anyone who is curious: Here is the list of properties already
> created since unit support is available:
>
> https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListProperties/quantity=50=103
> and here is the list of properties that were waiting on unit support:
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2
> Those should change over the next hours/days.
>
>
> Cheers
> Lydia
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Re: [Wikidata] Units are live! \o/

2015-09-09 Thread Navino Evans
So much exciting news lately! many congratulations! :)

On 9 September 2015 at 22:29, David Cuenca Tudela  wrote:

> Just created "area" after two years of waiting! yay! congratulations! \o/
>
> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 11:08 PM, Lydia Pintscher <
> lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, Sep 9, 2015 at 9:49 PM, Lydia Pintscher
>>  wrote:
>> > Hey everyone :)
>> >
>> > As promised we just enabled support for quantities with units on
>> > Wikidata. So from now on you'll be able to store fancy things like the
>> > height of a mountain or the boiling point of an element.
>> >
>> > Quite a few properties have been waiting on unit support before they
>> > are created. I assume they will be created in the next hours and then
>> > you can go ahead and add all of the measurements.
>>
>> For anyone who is curious: Here is the list of properties already
>> created since unit support is available:
>>
>> https://www.wikidata.org/w/index.php?title=Special:ListProperties/quantity=50=103
>> and here is the list of properties that were waiting on unit support:
>> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/Pending/2
>> Those should change over the next hours/days.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Lydia
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