Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars
Hi, concerning. distribution Cyriel from WMNL is checking with the WMF, if they will take the WLM calendars into their shop -programme. Please check with Your chapter if you would like to order a number of copies on top of the 15 free copies every participating country will receive. The printing house is not supposed to take individual orders, like sending one copy to Seattle and an other one to Cape Town. But they will love to ship 25 copies to Vienna and 30 to Bogotá and so forth. Just let me know, how You feel about it. I' collect your figures to start with out commitment. concerning layout: there will be no printed rear-sides as this would increase the printing cost considerably. All other suggestions will be considered as Tomasz said. best regards Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. 2012/9/23 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com Thanks for the comments, WereSpielCheckquers and Platonides! 1. I am not sure whether we'll be including file descriptions at all this year; it was the only thing besides the last page that made the calendars not language-neutral. This is something we try to avoid as much as possible, as we're having WLM in more countries that use non-Latin alphabets than last year. I'm not saying no to descriptions in English, but this /is/ a problem, and we will not be able to translate them into the 37 languages used in WLM countries, especially due to technical and financial reasons. If you'd prefer to have the descriptions below the photos, I'll make sure to have them in a bigger font than last year :-)) 2. The names of the authors are listed on the last page of the calendars, though as Platonides rightly pointed out, we forgot to include a link to the page of the deed at creativecommons.org; this is something we can improve this time. I am not sure whether adding a link to a winning photo would be useful at all, especially with long filenames or filenames written in non-Latin alphabets (or even in Latin alphabets in countries which use different ones); just imagine how long would typing those from your keyboard take! And by the way, the forward slashes // were just part of the design, with no special meaning. 3. You cannot buy a copy of the 2012 calendars (I'm quite sure there are no spare copies left at all), and I haven't heard about any plans of selling the 2013s to the public. You'd be able to buy (or get) those from a local chapter if they order more than they really need. Last year, a Wikimedia Polska representative gave more than 10 copies to the Wikimedia Foundation staff at the financial meeting in Paris; I've heard they liked them :-) so if the Foundation would like to sell the 2013s in their shop, they will be able to download the design file from Commons -- we'll upload it there as soon as we have it ready, just like I did with the one we used this year. -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars
Hi all, responding to several points at once: * For the license stuff: I suggest to just take the graphical CC BY-SA logo that Creative Commons provides, and show that at the front page in a corner. * Let me just say 'no' to translating everything into all languages. That is simply a journey I refuse to go onto. It would require a huge investment of time from both translators and the coordinators. Lets do the thing that worked well last year: short description in both the local language of the monument and in English. (with exceptions for complicated regions adding another language). Perfection is the enemy of progress: we're on a very tight time schedule once we get to the jury results. We don't have any resources to hunt after people, and any compromise is going to have disadvantages too. If/when we do an online exhibition we could/should do this though. * For those that really really like, we have a few 2012 calendars left in the WMNL office. I'm sure if you give a proper donation, you can get a few ;-) (contact Sandra Rientjes for that). For 2013 I think Barbara will come later with a more detailed update on what is possible and what isn't. This was still under discussion - the publisher did consider providing calendars for public sale. I'm not sure if the WMF is going to order calendars - but I suggest you contact them directly if you want to make that happen. * Providing URL's to the original file is not required. What I can imagine is that the file description in the last page contains the file names - but then that is also barely usable (how well are you able to copy the hebrew characters?). If you want to reuse the images, just go to the Wikilovesmonuments website or Wikimedia Commons - both will contain a full overview of all winning pictures. Lets not make things more complicated than necessary. It is not a legal requirement, and lets not fool ourselves: anyone with a little bit of google experience can type 'wiki loves monuments winners' into google and will find them. * On QR codes: I know some people really fancy them... personally I think that they wouldn't really look well in the existing designs at least on the photo pages. Again: lets not make the process more complicated (these codes need to be created, pages can't be moved, weird characters etc. - all potential errors and problems giving me a headache). People can find the page with the winning pictures quite easily. If we add everything we *can* add, it will be overkill. Anyway, thanks for the feedback. While some of it may not be implementable, it is still appreciated. Best, Lodewijk 2012/9/24 Barbara Fischer barbara.fisc...@wikimedia.de Hi, concerning. distribution Cyriel from WMNL is checking with the WMF, if they will take the WLM calendars into their shop -programme. Please check with Your chapter if you would like to order a number of copies on top of the 15 free copies every participating country will receive. The printing house is not supposed to take individual orders, like sending one copy to Seattle and an other one to Cape Town. But they will love to ship 25 copies to Vienna and 30 to Bogotá and so forth. Just let me know, how You feel about it. I' collect your figures to start with out commitment. concerning layout: there will be no printed rear-sides as this would increase the printing cost considerably. All other suggestions will be considered as Tomasz said. best regards Barbara Fischer Kuratorin für Kulturpartnerschaften Wikimedia Deutschland e.V. | NEU: Obentrautstr. 72 | 10963 Berlin Tel. (030) 219 158 26-0 http://wikimedia.de Wikimedia Deutschland - Gesellschaft zur Förderung Freien Wissens e.V. Eingetragen im Vereinsregister des Amtsgerichts Berlin-Charlottenburg unter der Nummer 23855 B. Als gemeinnützig anerkannt durch das Finanzamt für Körperschaften I Berlin, Steuernummer 27/681/51985. 2012/9/23 Tomasz W. Kozłowski odder.w...@gmail.com Thanks for the comments, WereSpielCheckquers and Platonides! 1. I am not sure whether we'll be including file descriptions at all this year; it was the only thing besides the last page that made the calendars not language-neutral. This is something we try to avoid as much as possible, as we're having WLM in more countries that use non-Latin alphabets than last year. I'm not saying no to descriptions in English, but this /is/ a problem, and we will not be able to translate them into the 37 languages used in WLM countries, especially due to technical and financial reasons. If you'd prefer to have the descriptions below the photos, I'll make sure to have them in a bigger font than last year :-)) 2. The names of the authors are listed on the last page of the calendars, though as Platonides rightly pointed out, we forgot to include a link to the page of the deed at creativecommons.org; this is something we can improve this time. I am not sure whether adding a link to a winning photo would be useful at all,
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars
On Mon, Sep 24, 2012 at 11:59:42AM +0200, Lodewijk wrote: Hi all, * On QR codes: I know some people really fancy them... personally I think that they wouldn't really look well in the existing designs at least on the photo pages. Again: lets not make the process more complicated (these codes need to be created, pages can't be moved, weird characters etc. - all potential errors and problems giving me a headache). People can find the page with the winning pictures quite easily. If we add everything we *can* add, it will be overkill. Didn't follow the discussion completely, but just responding on this one, one QR code on the last page (were also the authors are) with a link to the page with the winners? Regards, Andre ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] Calendars
On 24 September 2012 12:05, Andre Koopal an...@molens.org wrote: Didn't follow the discussion completely, but just responding on this one, one QR code on the last page (were also the authors are) with a link to the page with the winners? This is definitely possible, and I cannot see a reason not to implement that; thanks for the suggestion :-) As mailing lists in general are a bad place to gather ideas, I went ahead and created a simple pad for the brainstorming; feel free to add your ideas at http://etherpad.wikimedia.org/WLM-2012-calendar. Thanks -- Tomasz W. Kozłowski a.k.a. [[user:odder]] ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
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Re: [Wiki Loves Monuments] WLM Android app v1.2.4 Daigo-ji
Jane Many apologies - it seems that I personally made a big mistake in the release. We have just released a new version which should hopefully fix all your problems. Best wishes and I hope this will remove some of the disappointment in the Netherlands Jon On Sun, Sep 23, 2012 at 3:05 AM, Jane Darnell jane...@gmail.com wrote: Philip, On my HTC Desire C Android phone I was experiencing crashes, but I was able to upload my photos one-by-one using the nearby function. Now I cannot upload any photos at all anymore with this latest update. I see my uploads under the button uploads, but they appear to be incomplete and ar enot showing up on Commons. Also, if I choose submit another photo, the app stops. CC'ing your mobile-feedbac...@lists.wikimedia.org. disappointed in the Netherlands, Jane 2012/9/21 Philip Chang pch...@wikimedia.org Dear WLM Members, The WLM Android app has been updated to v1.2.4, named Daigo-ji. Release notes: * Dynamically loads localization updates * Clears large image previews before taking another photo - may help with out of memory errors * Stops Mobile to desktop upload category from being added to uploads from the app - this category should be limited to desktop uploads from a mobile upload Please note: there are issues with the Cordova interface to the camera that are outside of our control (Cordova is the app framework used to build our mobile apps). There are a significant number of users experiencing crashes and we are limited in our ability to debug these problems, for several reasons: * We are not able to reproduce these problems on the same devices that seems to be experiencing the problems * Google Play captures a part of the error which does not include the Cordova aspects * Google Play does not allow us to contact reviewers or people reporting crashes Therefore, if you hear of any users having such problems, please have them contact us by email at: mobile-feedbac...@lists.wikimedia.org. Thanks for your support. Phil -- Phil Inje Chang Product Manager, Mobile Wikimedia Foundation 415-812-0854 m 415-882-7982 x 6810 ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org -- Jon Robson http://jonrobson.me.uk @rakugojon ___ Wiki Loves Monuments mailing list WikiLovesMonuments@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikilovesmonuments http://www.wikilovesmonuments.org
