Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property

2018-08-18 Thread Situ. Sokol 
Dear Ergon,  What do you mean by  Q4 risk zone?   Miss. Dr. Doogie  Houser

On August 18, 2018, at 6:18 PM, Egon Willighagen  
wrote:



Dear Houcemeddine,


interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically 
says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will 
be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these 
links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a 
few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any 
ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').


With kind regards,


Egon






On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki 
 wrote:

Dear Mr. or Ms.,

I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk 
factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution 
to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for 
digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This 
property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed.

Yours Sincerely,

Houcemeddine Turki

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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property

2018-08-18 Thread Egon Willighagen 
Dear Houcemeddine,

interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically
says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims
will be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see
these links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can
think of a few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope
no one gets any ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').

With kind regards,

Egon





On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki <
turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr> wrote:

> Dear Mr. or Ms.,
> I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk
> factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent
> contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to
> be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor.
> This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I
> developed.
> Yours Sincerely,
> Houcemeddine Turki
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Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property

2018-08-16 Thread Houcemeddine A. Turki 
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. If you like that, we can discuss the method of the 
automatic extraction of risk factors in details and adjust it.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki

De : Wikimedia-Medicine  de la 
part de Thomas Lapsley 
Envoyé : jeudi 16 août 2018 04:01:02
À : Wiki Medicine discussion
Objet : Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata 
property

I have to comment on the following email statement you made that I disagree. 
You said, "As you already know, the relations having important number of query 
results are more likely to be accurate." This is a vague comment. I find this 
most of the time definitely not true. Any person can manipulate the sample. It 
is not the size of the sample but, the credibility and quality of the sample 
pool that's important.

Then the statement was written "After we do this, we will give the list of the 
retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification." Again the 
sample of physicians that are given the data is important. I the sample pool is 
from the same school of thought the end result would have no merit. I think the 
credentials of the sample is important but, I would add research Phd's, nurses, 
students and patients. etc...

I think Wiki, Wikimedical etc... is doing a good job and I like the open source 
architectural the mediators are excellent but, I'd like to have links in the 
sites to a higher level of research information.

Respectfully,
Thomas Lapsley TL

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Houcemeddine A. Turki 
mailto:turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr>> wrote:
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. This is an absolutely interesting question. The 
method we will use is based on PubMed Entrez API. Using a Python code, we 
retrieve the number of PubMed publications jointly involving the name of the 
disease and the name of the risk factor and we retrieve the PubMed ID of the 
most relevant search result. As you already know, the relations having 
important number of query results are more likely to be accurate. After we do 
this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of 
physicians for verification. After that, we will add them to Wikidata using 
QuickStatements. As for the concerns you raised, they are absolutely accurate. 
We can discuss them in details after the acceptance of the proposal. You can 
also be a co-author of the work.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki

De : Wikidata 
mailto:wikidata-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org>>
 de la part de Egon Willighagen 
mailto:egon.willigha...@gmail.com>>
Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2018 06:50
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Dear Houcemeddine,

interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically 
says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will 
be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these 
links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a 
few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any 
ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').

With kind regards,

Egon





On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki 
mailto:turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr>> wrote:
Dear Mr. or Ms.,
I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk 
factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution 
to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for 
digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This 
property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki
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Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
PubList: https://www.zotero.org/egonw
ORCID: -0001-7542-0286<http://orcid.org/-0001-7542-0286>
ImpactStory: https://impactstory.org/u/egonwillighagen

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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property

2018-08-15 Thread Thomas Lapsley 
I have to comment on the following email statement you made that I
disagree. You said, "As you already know, the relations having important
number of query results are more likely to be accurate." This is a vague
comment. I find this most of the time definitely not true. Any person can
manipulate the sample. It is not the size of the sample but, the
credibility and quality of the sample pool that's important.

Then the statement was written "After we do this, we will give the list of
the retrieved risk factors to a number of physicians for verification."
Again the sample of physicians that are given the data is important. I the
sample pool is from the same school of thought the end result would have no
merit. I think the credentials of the sample is important but, I would add
research Phd's, nurses, students and patients. etc...

I think Wiki, Wikimedical etc... is doing a good job and I like the open
source architectural the mediators are excellent but, I'd like to have
links in the sites to a higher level of research information.

Respectfully,
Thomas Lapsley TL

On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 6:39 AM, Houcemeddine A. Turki <
turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr> wrote:

> Dear Mr.,
> I thank you for your answer. This is an absolutely interesting question.
> The method we will use is based on PubMed Entrez API. Using a Python code,
> we retrieve the number of PubMed publications jointly involving the name of
> the disease and the name of the risk factor and we retrieve the PubMed ID
> of the most relevant search result. As you already know, the relations
> having important number of query results are more likely to be accurate.
> After we do this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a
> number of physicians for verification. After that, we will add them to
> Wikidata using QuickStatements. As for the concerns you raised, they are
> absolutely accurate. We can discuss them in details after the acceptance of
> the proposal. You can also be a co-author of the work.
> Yours Sincerely,
> Houcemeddine Turki
> --
> *De :* Wikidata  de la part de Egon
> Willighagen 
> *Envoyé :* lundi 13 août 2018 06:50
> *À :* Discussion list for the Wikidata project.
> *Cc :* mohamed.benaoui...@fss.usf.tn; mohamedali.hadjta...@gmail.com;
> wikimedia-medicine@lists.wikimedia.org
> *Objet :* Re: [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property
>
>
> Dear Houcemeddine,
>
> interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which
> basically says we need qualifiers and references. The references because
> some claims will be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while
> I also see these links as likely time bound, due to changing health
> policies (I can think of a few other reasons), at least for the residence
> examples (I hope no one gets any ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence'
> 'war zone').
>
> With kind regards,
>
> Egon
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki <
> turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr> wrote:
>
> Dear Mr. or Ms.,
> I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk
> factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent
> contribution to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to
> be useful for digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in
> https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor.
> This property is a generalization of the first property proposal I
> developed.
> Yours Sincerely,
> Houcemeddine Turki
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> wikid...@lists.wikimedia.org
> https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata
>
>
>
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> Department of Bioinformatics - BiGCaT
> Maastricht University (http://www.bigcat.unimaas.nl/)
> Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
> LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
> Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
> PubList: https://www.zotero.org/egonw
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Re: [Wiki-Medicine] [Wikidata] Please support risk factor Wikidata property

2018-08-13 Thread Houcemeddine A. Turki 
Dear Mr.,
I thank you for your answer. This is an absolutely interesting question. The 
method we will use is based on PubMed Entrez API. Using a Python code, we 
retrieve the number of PubMed publications jointly involving the name of the 
disease and the name of the risk factor and we retrieve the PubMed ID of the 
most relevant search result. As you already know, the relations having 
important number of query results are more likely to be accurate. After we do 
this, we will give the list of the retrieved risk factors to a number of 
physicians for verification. After that, we will add them to Wikidata using 
QuickStatements. As for the concerns you raised, they are absolutely accurate. 
We can discuss them in details after the acceptance of the proposal. You can 
also be a co-author of the work.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki

De : Wikidata  de la part de Egon 
Willighagen 
Envoyé : lundi 13 août 2018 06:50
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Dear Houcemeddine,

interesting proposal, indeed. I left a comment on the page, which basically 
says we need qualifiers and references. The references because some claims will 
be controversial (even if backed up by literature), while I also see these 
links as likely time bound, due to changing health policies (I can think of a 
few other reasons), at least for the residence examples (I hope no one gets any 
ideas about Q4 'risk factor' 'residence' 'war zone').

With kind regards,

Egon





On Fri, Aug 10, 2018 at 10:05 PM Houcemeddine A. Turki 
mailto:turkiabdelwa...@hotmail.fr>> wrote:
Dear Mr. or Ms.,
I thank you for your efforts. I invite you to support the proposal of risk 
factor as a Wikidata property. The property will be an excellent contribution 
to Wikidata as it can allow this high-scale knowledge base to be useful for 
digital epidemiology purposes. The proposal is available in 
https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Property_proposal/risk_factor. This 
property is a generalization of the first property proposal I developed.
Yours Sincerely,
Houcemeddine Turki
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Homepage: http://egonw.github.com/
LinkedIn: http://se.linkedin.com/in/egonw
Blog: http://chem-bla-ics.blogspot.com/
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