Re: [Wikitech-l] Special pages
Brion Vibber wrote: Last week some of the background batch jobs were reorganized to run under a less privileged user account, a good security practice. Unfortunately the log files the batch jobs logged to didn't have their ownership updated, so the batch jobs were unable to actually run, due to being unable to open their output files. :P I've fixed the file ownership; they should start updating in the next day or two per regular schedule. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l I've checked enwiki and hewiki, and the special pages are still not updated. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] category page with curious data
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 9:38 AM, Uwe Baumbach u.baumb...@web.de wrote: after our upgrade to 1.14 we see at one category page: http://wiki-de.genealogy.net/Kategorie:Stiftung_Stoye/Band_42_(Genealogische_Nachl%C3%A4sse) that this cat should have 618 pages. But browsing through the pages we can see: they are only 351. This correct number is shown by our own mini extension that queries table categorylinks... Running maintenance/populateCategory.php --force should fix this. It will refresh *all* category table counts, however, not just one. There's currently no nice mechanism to force a category size recount, other than removing enough entries to get it below 200 and then re-adding them. There's probably a bug open for this somewhere. Thx - this was the solution! Uwe (Baumbach) u.baumb...@web.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJmndcFEbayCH8zXkRAs38AJ9xpEyYVA5c/QzBEQlpoLdFkSRIVACeNf8h kFh9+nPDfXgmGB0frzRbIpc= =3/nS -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification
Aryeh Gregor wrote: Part of the problem is that the measure of job queue length we really care about is what was the last job executed?, not how many jobs are in the queue?. If we added a job_timestamp column and put an index on it, we could replace (or supplement) the cruddy poor-quality estimate we have now with a probably more useful and certainly more accurate one. Agree. Adding job queue lag to Special:Statistics would benefit both users and sysadmins. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] list of recurring maintenance scripts/tasks?
Daniel Friesen wrote: Wait... MediaWikians? If we're MediaWikians, then are the users on MediaWiki.org MediaWiki.orgians? Nowait... aha, it's MediaWiki.organs! /me goes to see if he can find a way to get the .organs .tld created...; /humor No, MediaWikians would be the people at MediaWiki.org, people here would be wikitechians or mediawikialns ;-) ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 8:20 PM, Tim Starling tstarl...@wikimedia.org wrote: I'm not sure what good a complaining bot would do, any more than a complaining user which we seem to have plenty of. Deleting the jobs was not a solution, and can't really be repeated without breaking things. There's still a fair bit more programming to do. I misunderstood the problem, evidently. I thought it was a one-off thing due to software bugs the sysadmins didn't know about. It seems it's more like a known, ongoing problem whose cause isn't understood yet, so there's no point in bugging people about it all the time, no. ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Feature-request: euro-symbol (TeX)
Hello, In several Tex-implementations, Euro-sign (€) can be created by \euro, \EURO \texteuro or \EUR. This isn't implemented in Mediawiki jet - but several WP-users have been asking for it. Could anyone please do this? Best Regards, Michi -- Michael F. Schönitzer Mail: mich...@schoenitzer.de Homepage: http://www.schoenitzer.de Jabber: schoenit...@jabber.ccc.de/Home ICQ: 294808517 Magdalenenstraße 29 80638 München Tel: 089/152315 signature.asc Description: Dies ist ein digital signierter Nachrichtenteil ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Email notification
Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:27 AM, Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com wrote: I misunderstood the problem, evidently. I thought it was a one-off thing due to software bugs the sysadmins didn't know about. It seems it's more like a known, ongoing problem whose cause isn't understood yet, so there's no point in bugging people about it all the time, no. Although, I still think a oldest job statistic might be useful. Not only for statistics, it would also provide users with an opportunity to see whether it is due to the job queue or a bug if a category membership or a link/template relationship is not updated soon after the actual edit to article. In the same way it would be nice to extend ?action=purge to log any discrepancies it encounters between the pre- and post-purge states to ease debugging. Tim ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] empty parts in print preview and print
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, after upgrade to 1.14 we suffer from empty parts in print preview and print output at only some pages! It works only with IE7, FF and other IE versions print well. Is this a known thing? Empty part (white area) seems to start right after a toc and then ends at not remarkable places within text to show/print the rest of an article. Now there is an example: One wiki, one article in two versions, that differ only in one paragraph (4.1 Quickttext), where some characters ' (for formatting italic) are substituted by .: http://wiki-test.genealogy.net/w/index.php?title=Stadtdiff=217734oldid=217731 You can see (with IE7 only!) in print preview mode this situation: * version 217734 (http://wiki-test.genealogy.net/w/index.php?oldid=217734) (the original text with italic formatting) has empty pieces. * version 217731 (http://wiki-test.genealogy.net/w/index.php?oldid=217731) suddenly shows all correct. We cannot recommand all users not to use IE7 (though we should). Any suggestions? Uwe (Baumbach) u.baumb...@web.de -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.7 (MingW32) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFJmt+kFEbayCH8zXkRAnLIAKCFq2ck2Lq47uQWbX72n6k+11l9+wCfc5l7 rA8WyHF26yF9T3uaBoDS4R0= =9nLx -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Dump processes seem to be dead
Andreas Meier andreasmeie...@gmx.de wrote in message news:4997d645.8050...@gmx.de... Hello, the current dump building seem to be dead and perhaps should be killed by hand. Reported: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17535 ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special pages
On 2/17/09 8:33 AM, Russell Blau wrote: Rotem Lissroteml...@gmail.com wrote in message news:499a7134.5090...@gmail.com... Brion Vibber wrote: Last week some of the background batch jobs were reorganized to run under a less privileged user account, a good security practice. Unfortunately the log files the batch jobs logged to didn't have their ownership updated, so the batch jobs were unable to actually run, due to being unable to open their output files. :P I've fixed the file ownership; they should start updating in the next day or two per regular schedule. -- brion I've checked enwiki and hewiki, and the special pages are still not updated. Reported: https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17534 Fixed the cron job for real this time... there were misleading log file entries which indicated the problem was different. :P Actual bug was obsolete hardcoded paths in the batch scripts -- attempting to run PHP from /usr/local/bin and grabbing the cluster id from /etc/cluster which we apparently no longer use on new machines? I've started a manual run of the small-wikis updates. Large wikis will continue on their regular schedule. -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Special pages
Brion, You Rock!!! ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
[Wikitech-l] Will MediaWiki continue to use GPLv2?
Are there any plans of MediaWiki migrating from GPLv2 to GPLv3? If so, will GPLv2 still be supported in future release? ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Will MediaWiki continue to use GPLv2?
On 2/17/09 11:34 AM, Trond Olsen wrote: Are there any plans of MediaWiki migrating from GPLv2 to GPLv3? If so, will GPLv2 still be supported in future release? We have no particular plans to update to GPLv3 at this time. Any particular interest in us converting or not in the future? -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Will MediaWiki continue to use GPLv2?
It was in regard to if you're mixing in GPLv2 compatible sourcecode and then later will be unable to receive security updates if MediaWiki becomes GPLv3 only. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 2/17/09 11:34 AM, Trond Olsen wrote: Are there any plans of MediaWiki migrating from GPLv2 to GPLv3? If so, will GPLv2 still be supported in future release? We have no particular plans to update to GPLv3 at this time. Any particular interest in us converting or not in the future? -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Will MediaWiki continue to use GPLv2?
Most GPLed code is GPL version #, or later. That's what MediaWiki is, so even if a move to GPLv3 is made anything specifying the , or later which all the MW extensions using GPL in svn should be, then that code can still be used because the , or later allows the code to be used under GPLv3 ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://nadir-seen-fire.com] -Nadir-Point (http://nadir-point.com) -Wiki-Tools (http://wiki-tools.com) -MonkeyScript (http://monkeyscript.nadir-point.com) -Animepedia (http://anime.wikia.com) -Narutopedia (http://naruto.wikia.com) -Soul Eater Wiki (http://souleater.wikia.com) Trond Olsen wrote: It was in regard to if you're mixing in GPLv2 compatible sourcecode and then later will be unable to receive security updates if MediaWiki becomes GPLv3 only. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 2/17/09 11:34 AM, Trond Olsen wrote: Are there any plans of MediaWiki migrating from GPLv2 to GPLv3? If so, will GPLv2 still be supported in future release? We have no particular plans to update to GPLv3 at this time. Any particular interest in us converting or not in the future? -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Will MediaWiki continue to use GPLv2?
I see now that the different sourcecode mentions GPL version #, or later. I'm only using the webservices API so misunderstood the COPYING file which only says GPLv2, but that's only a reference for GPLv2. Thanks for the answers. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:35 PM, Daniel Friesen dan_the_...@telus.netwrote: Most GPLed code is GPL version #, or later. That's what MediaWiki is, so even if a move to GPLv3 is made anything specifying the , or later which all the MW extensions using GPL in svn should be, then that code can still be used because the , or later allows the code to be used under GPLv3 ~Daniel Friesen (Dantman, Nadir-Seen-Fire) [http://nadir-seen-fire.com] -Nadir-Point (http://nadir-point.com) -Wiki-Tools (http://wiki-tools.com) -MonkeyScript (http://monkeyscript.nadir-point.com) -Animepedia (http://anime.wikia.com) -Narutopedia (http://naruto.wikia.com) -Soul Eater Wiki (http://souleater.wikia.com) Trond Olsen wrote: It was in regard to if you're mixing in GPLv2 compatible sourcecode and then later will be unable to receive security updates if MediaWiki becomes GPLv3 only. On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 8:51 PM, Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 2/17/09 11:34 AM, Trond Olsen wrote: Are there any plans of MediaWiki migrating from GPLv2 to GPLv3? If so, will GPLv2 still be supported in future release? We have no particular plans to update to GPLv3 at this time. Any particular interest in us converting or not in the future? -- brion ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
Re: [Wikitech-l] Will MediaWiki continue to use GPLv2?
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 3:17 PM, Trond Olsen tolse...@gmail.com wrote: It was in regard to if you're mixing in GPLv2 compatible sourcecode and then later will be unable to receive security updates if MediaWiki becomes GPLv3 only. You would in any event be able to receive and apply security updates. You would, at most, be forbidden from distributing them combined with the GPLv2-only source code (like, I don't know, if you ported some function from the Linux kernel to PHP?). ___ Wikitech-l mailing list Wikitech-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-l
