Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
* Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: [snip] The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Does the latency increase on your throughput tests inside the tunnel? Are you considering fragmentation/MTU issues? -- Jeremy L. Gaddis e: jer...@as54225.net CCNP/JNCIA/ASE m: +1.812.865.0581 Network Engineer w: evilrouters.net ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
* Nick Olsenn...@flhsi.com wrote: [snip] The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Does the latency increase on your throughput tests inside the tunnel? Are you considering fragmentation/MTU issues? I would vote for the fragmentation/MTU -- Ing. Paolo Di Francesco Level7 s.r.l. unipersonale Sede operativa: Largo Montalto, 5 - 90144 Palermo C.F. e P.IVA 05940050825 Fax : +39-091-8772072 assistenza: (+39) 091-8776432 web: http://www.level7.it ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
[WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have.. They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's to allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of packets, (makes for nice speed test results). If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !). :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst traffic by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where it will do a consistent 50mb/s. Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 From: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM To: wireless@wispa.org Subject: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have.. They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's to allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of packets, (makes for nice speed test results). If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !). :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
What are you generating the bandwidth test on? Is it MT? Is it TCP? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Wed, May 30, 2012 at 2:07 PM, Nick Olsen n...@flhsi.com wrote: Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst traffic by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where it will do a consistent 50mb/s. Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 -- *From*: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net *Sent*: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM *To*: wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have.. They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's to allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of packets, (makes for nice speed test results). If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !). :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing listWireless@wispa.orghttp://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
EOIP performance should be a a bit less than the full pipe , cause it will fragment packets and re-assemble them. When you are testing, pay attention to CPU utilization on the Routerboard.. (just make sure you are not running out of CPU cycles). Additionally, when you are testing via tunnel, try to test with multiple streams... (from another discussion on the MT forums). Regards. Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email: supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/30/2012 2:07 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Correct. It is a 50/5 connection. I can verify its not just burst traffic by using the mikrotik bandwidth test OUTSIDE the tunnel. Where it will do a consistent 50mb/s. Inside the tunnel without fail, it'll drop to 25-30Mb/s Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 *From*: Faisal Imtiaz fai...@snappydsl.net *Sent*: Wednesday, May 30, 2012 1:59 PM *To*: wireless@wispa.org *Subject*: Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance Take a closer look at what the Cable Package you / your customer have.. They are all bursty packges, and it is fairly common for the Cable Co's to allow http traffic to burst, while throttling the other types of packets, (makes for nice speed test results). If you are shaping traffic or doing QOS, I would suggest that you setup your limits based on the lower (minimu) set of number that the Cable Co packages describes.. (its the stuff written in fine print !). :) Faisal Imtiaz Snappy Internet Telecom 7266 SW 48 Street Miami, Fl 33155 Tel: 305 663 5518 x 232 Helpdesk: 305 663 5518 option 2 Email:supp...@snappydsl.net On 5/30/2012 1:52 PM, Nick Olsen wrote: Afternoon All, We've got a few locations that we service with a dedicated connection of ours. We extend OSPF to our router on site..etc.etc.. If the customer would like. We let them purchase a cable connection from the local cable company for backup. We create a EOIP or GRE tunnel over this cable connection back to our main POP. And just run it at a higher OSPF cost. This is all well and good, Here's the problem. The cable connections are normally 50Mb/s down, 5Mb/s up. If I run a bandwidth test inside the tunnel, I can only get 25-30Mb/s down. Outside the tunnel, It does the full 50Mb/s. This is the same for every cable connection we have. They are all terminating back to a RB493G in our rack sitting on GigE. I can even run multiple bandwidth tests to all of the locations and get an aggregate of 200Mb/s but no more then 25-30 to any single endpoint. And ideas? Nick Olsen Network Operations (855) FLSPEED x106 ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
Re: [WISPA] EOIP/GRE Performance
EOIP performance should be a a bit less than the full pipe , cause it will fragment packets and re-assemble them. When you are testing, pay attention to CPU utilization on the Routerboard.. (just make sure you are not running out of CPU cycles). Additionally, when you are testing via tunnel, try to test with multiple streams... (from another discussion on the MT forums). Is there anyway to compress a EOIP stream? When our PTP fiber was cut we used an EOIP tunnel over a DSL line as backup. Could not figure out how to get compression to work. Needed to squeeze every last bit we could out of the line. ___ Wireless mailing list Wireless@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/wireless
