Re: [AFMUG] Fiber question

2019-10-21 Thread Jon Langeler
Thanks guys! I might check both avenues Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc. > On Oct 21, 2019, at 7:36 PM, ch...@wbmfg.com wrote: > >  > I do both. Frequently the ROW is wide enough and the local road department > will authorize the cabinet. Once it is there it is there. Private

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
Doesn't seem so long, oldest on the list is only 5 months old https://www.arin.net/resources/guide/ipv4/waiting_list/ On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 11:18 AM Steve Jones wrote: > last i heard it was 3 years > > On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:04 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < >

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Dennis, can you cite a source for that? I am unable to find a single place that says .gov domains will start blocking access via IPv4. In fact, current status seems to be that less than half of US govt domains are even accessible via IPv6.

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber question

2019-10-21 Thread chuck
I do both. Frequently the ROW is wide enough and the local road department will authorize the cabinet. Once it is there it is there. Private easements can become difficult if not negotiated properly. From: Jon Langeler Sent: Tuesday, October 22, 2019 12:25 AM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users

Re: [AFMUG] Fiber question

2019-10-21 Thread Colin Stanners
Assuming that by switching you mean with network switches / powered, at least in our jurisdiction it seems that most authorities don't want anything new in the RoW with an electrical meter - so you need to buy / long-term lease from a private owner. If this may become an important site, it's

[AFMUG] Fiber question

2019-10-21 Thread Jon Langeler
Having to put a Purcell cabinet with fiber switching in the RoW. Is that normal to use the RoW or sublease 5ft sq from a private owner? Extra paperwork involved? Jon Langeler Michwave Technologies, Inc.-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

2019-10-21 Thread chuck
Will take a look. Time is a bit tight. From: SmarterBroadband Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 9:50 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time Hi Chuck If you can, visit The Verdon Gorge and Moustiers-Sainte-Marie while you are on you way South. We

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread James Howard
So you think they can get ip6 to work on dos within 10 years? I bet it takes them longer than that. From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Steve Jones Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 2:21 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space yeah, no.

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/21/19 13:22, Adam Moffett wrote: Exactly.  Maybe 1/3 of networks have IPv6, but since the big boys are on it there's a large volume of total traffic that'll run on v6. There's more for sure, but those are the top three off the top of my head people that people will go to first and

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Adam Moffett
Exactly.  Maybe 1/3 of networks have IPv6, but since the big boys are on it there's a large volume of total traffic that'll run on v6. IPv6 is immediately useful with Facebook, YouTube, Netflix. I believe Xbox Live will use IPv6 but I don't know about PSN. Especially if you've ever had to

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 10/21/19 12:06, Steve Jones wrote: NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for more IP space IP6 is still years out for us IPv6 is immediately useful with Facebook, YouTube, Netflix. I believe Xbox Live will use IPv6 but I don't know about PSN. Especially if you've ever had to deal

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

2019-10-21 Thread SmarterBroadband
Hi Chuck If you can, visit The Verdon Gorge and Moustiers-Sainte-Marie while you are on you way South. We just discovered this area earlier this year. Well worth a visit. Adam From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of ch...@wbmfg.com Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019

Re: [AFMUG] OT Travelin' computer

2019-10-21 Thread Josh Luthman
Glad you enjoy it as well :) I found it was exceptionally great on a Delta flight last week - I was able to do a bunch of christmas light show programming. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:34 PM wrote: >

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Steve Jones
yeah, no. .gov agencies still run dos 10 years at best til the ones that matter will be organized enough to shut down ip4 access On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 2:12 PM Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: > Keep in mind that IPv6 will be necessary within 2-4 years, if the .govs > shutdown access via v4 for

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Adam Moffett
What's this about .gov shutting down v4 access?  Is that a real goal they have? -Adam On 10/21/2019 3:11 PM, Dennis Burgess via AF wrote: Keep in mind that IPv6 will be necessary within 2-4 years, if the .govs shutdown access via v4 for security reasons.  No more FCC/ IRS or any .GOV

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Dennis Burgess via AF
Keep in mind that IPv6 will be necessary within 2-4 years, if the .govs shutdown access via v4 for security reasons. No more FCC/ IRS or any .GOV unless over v6. Note that the current plan is 2-3 years, I have given it an extra year for measure! V6 should be deployed NOW. Not later, when

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Steve Jones
NAT problems with BGP are why we are looking for more IP space IP6 is still years out for us On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 1:43 PM Adam Moffett wrote: > If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual stack with IPv4 > CGN and IPv6 public IPs. There's a learning curve, but it's not that

[AFMUG] Fwd: [WISPA Members] Short Survey to Support Extension of Time to Transition to Part 96 CBRS Rules

2019-10-21 Thread Sean Heskett
Hello Animal Farmers, Even if you are not a WISPA member please fill out this survey if you use 3.65Ghz equipment and need a waiver to continue operation of your part 90 equipment beyond April 16, 2020. Thanks! -Sean Heskett -- Forwarded message - From: Louis Peraertz Date:

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Sterling Jacobson
That’s what I’m thinking of migrating to real soon. I need to find a secondary IPv6 upstream and a good block of maybe /22 IP’s then call it good forever. From: AF On Behalf Of Adam Moffett Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 12:43 PM To: af@af.afmug.com Subject: Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Adam Moffett
If you're not doing it already, start thinking about dual stack with IPv4 CGN and IPv6 public IPs.  There's a learning curve, but it's not that bad. -Adam On 10/21/2019 12:51 PM, Steve Jones wrote: Where is the best place to get these? How do we verify space has a decent reputation so we

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Steve Jones
last i heard it was 3 years On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 12:04 PM Forrest Christian (List Account) < li...@packetflux.com> wrote: > ARIN apparently has a Waitlist for smaller sized blocks that they are > working through as they discover blocks which have no valid ownership. > > Dont know how long the

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Forrest Christian (List Account)
ARIN apparently has a Waitlist for smaller sized blocks that they are working through as they discover blocks which have no valid ownership. Dont know how long the Waitlist is or what sized blocks (I think someone said /22s) On Mon, Oct 21, 2019, 10:53 AM Steve Jones wrote: > Where is the best

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
IMHO being Canadian would be a plus. They’re so nice, and they speak English. FWIW, Preseem is Canadian and their support is excellent. They even work on U.S. holidays. Also, it seems Sangoma sells hosted PBX, it’s possible they are more of a VoIP services company not a hardware company

Re: [AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Tyson Burris
There was two places at the show selling. We used Hilco before. IP4 Depot we haven’t but they are being aggressive on prices. Tyson Burris, President Internet Communications Inc. 739 Commerce Dr. Franklin, IN 46131 Daytime # 317-738-0320 Cell/Direct # 317-412-1540 Online: www.surfici.net [ICI]

[AFMUG] Buying new IP space

2019-10-21 Thread Steve Jones
Where is the best place to get these? How do we verify space has a decent reputation so we dont go through months of cleanup and all that stuff? -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

2019-10-21 Thread James Howard
I didn’t have it quite right. The 3 Stooges line apparently went: "And what were you doing in Paris?" "Oh, looking over the Parasites." From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Ken Hohhof Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 11:11 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re:

[AFMUG] OT Travelin' computer

2019-10-21 Thread chuck
This Surface Pro has been ideal. Wonderful machine.-- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

2019-10-21 Thread chuck
No, visiting the grandkids then taking them down South to Lascaux to see the caves. Then on to Nice, Montecarlo, London, Cornwall, Amsterdam and back to Utah. From: James Howard Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 5:31 PM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

2019-10-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
Wait, was that a parasite joke? From: AF On Behalf Of James Howard Sent: Monday, October 21, 2019 10:31 AM To: 'AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group' Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time Are you in France to see the Paris sites? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Nate Burke
Is there any concern that a Canadian company is buying a US Voip Provider?  Not from like a security 'OMG my calls are going to go to Canada' Question, but more of a regulatory, or support thinking. Eventually I'm sure they'll want to consolidate support within the company, would that be a

Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time

2019-10-21 Thread James Howard
Are you in France to see the Paris sites? From: AF [mailto:af-boun...@af.afmug.com] On Behalf Of Chuck McCown Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2019 6:57 PM To: AnimalFarm Microwave Users Group Subject: Re: [AFMUG] OT dinner time I didn’t find out. Sent from my iPhone On Oct 19, 2019, at 5:53 PM,

Re: [AFMUG] OT: Netflix - series "Halt and Catch Fire"

2019-10-21 Thread Louis Arsenault
I enjoyed it a lot. On Mon, Oct 21, 2019 at 10:51 AM CBB - Jay Fuller wrote: > > Supposed to be about compaq, which I also noticed Netflix has a great > documentary on. > > Anyone seen the series? It is supposed to be on Netflix. > > > -- > AF mailing list > AF@af.afmug.com >

[AFMUG] OT: Netflix - series "Halt and Catch Fire"

2019-10-21 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller
Supposed to be about compaq, which I also noticed Netflix has a great documentary on. Anyone seen the series? It is supposed to be on Netflix. -- AF mailing list AF@af.afmug.com http://af.afmug.com/mailman/listinfo/af_af.afmug.com

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Jeff Broadwick - Lists
ImageStream used Sangoma cards for years. Jeff Broadwick CTIconnect 312-205-2519 Office 574-220-7826 Cell jbroadw...@cticonnect.com > On Oct 21, 2019, at 10:23 AM, Lewis Bergman wrote: > >  > I think I bought a Sangoma quad T1 card back in the 90's. They have owned > FreePBX for a good while

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Lewis Bergman
I think I bought a Sangoma quad T1 card back in the 90's. They have owned FreePBX for a good while and while they do make it worth your while to use Sangoma equipment, including their phones, with FreePBX they don't try to keep you from using anything else. If I remember right they have some

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Bill Prince
Sangoma has been around for a long time. VI only started a decade ago. There's not a lot of information about what kind of revenue VI made, but the whole deal was only worth $42 million. You can slice their annual revenue a few different ways, but Sangoma was grossing around $57 million in the

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Ken Hohhof
I was a little surprised that Sangoma was large enough to buy VI, instead of the other way around, or a merger of equals. Hoping it's not like Google buying Nest where Nest became just a brand and everything got sucked into the Google ecosystem. As in having to use Sangoma software and

Re: [AFMUG] Sangoma buying Voip Innovations

2019-10-21 Thread Matt Hoppes
I realize people may not of heard of them, so I’m not really trying to make fun of you. Your question just kind of struck me like somebody asking who is Facebook? They’ve been around for many years doing voice things specifically with asterisk. I think I’ve been using their PRI cards since