Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-07 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Charles, I find it frustrating that you did not respond to my response to your post, which directly answered your questions as best I could to give you context and hard data to the outreach work and Wikidata activity within that. Yet you took the time to respond to Pigs'. Pigs has done

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-06 Thread Brill Lyle
context of establishing > wikidatan notability? > > > On Jan 6, 2018, at 10:42 AM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi LeadSongDog, > > Yes that is an article that is part of the press list that the Black Lunch > Table has generated > https://en

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-06 Thread Brill Lyle
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 11:27 AM, Thad Guidry <thadgui...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Jan 6, 2018 at 9:53 AM Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Yes. This is the crux of the matter, the big question: *"I'm no

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-06 Thread Brill Lyle
Yes. This is the crux of the matter, the big question: *"I'm not sure we should store this kind of data on Wikidata."* I disagree with "*Point 2 and 3 are for the BLT community to solve.*" In the interest of transparency, Gerard, myself, and BLT came to and are coming to the Wikidata community

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-06 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi LeadSongDog, Yes that is an article that is part of the press list that the Black Lunch Table has generated https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/Black_Lunch_Table/Press Again, not a huge fan of using refs to justify an outreach initiative. Plus would it be necessary to use this ref

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-06 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Charles, Thanks for taking the time to try to understand the issues that are being raised here. - Wikipedia initiatives need a unique identifier in Wikidata they can use on Wikidata to tag items to their initiative -- and most importantly run SPARQL queries on -- I don't think a Q number will

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-05 Thread Brill Lyle
s you to expect me to offer > an alternative way to track your project. I am not responsible for your > project and don't understand what it is. If you can't understand that then > you should not probably not be editing Wikidata. > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 2:33 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.bril

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-05 Thread Brill Lyle
t has to be done without a reference. Making these things clear would > help to reduce the temperature of this discussion. > - LeadSongDog > *Sent:* Friday, January 05, 2018 at 8:33 AM > *From:* "Brill Lyle" <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> > *To:* "Discussion list for

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-05 Thread Brill Lyle
s of item numbers. If you have a list anywhere on > a Wikipedia project, you can also run queries using Petscan. > > On Fri, Jan 5, 2018 at 6:12 AM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> First off, thanks so much for the support and assistance in understanding >&g

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-05 Thread Brill Lyle
ly the wrong way to go. I have tried > to read through the material you made available, but I still don't see why > this project needs any special property at all when you can create listeria > lists from unordered lists of item numbers. If you have a list anywhere on > a Wikipedia project

Re: [Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-04 Thread Brill Lyle
First off, thanks so much for the support and assistance in understanding the work being done here. Thanks to those editors who restored the wholesale deletion of the catalog property. Secondly: While the Black Lunch Table is unique in both its scope and outreach, other projects are using the

[Wikidata] Wikidata + Wikipedia outreach

2018-01-03 Thread Brill Lyle
So User:Multichill has taken it upon himself to delete all of the catalog entries for the Black Lunch Table. One of the first if not only successful implementations of Wikidata as a task list for Wikipedia. There are other initiatives also using catalog, which I assume will also be deleted.

Re: [Wikidata] Identifiers: Multiple VIAF numbers

2017-12-17 Thread Brill Lyle
> *From:* Wikidata <wikidata-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of > Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, December 17, 2017 3:56:05 AM > *To:* Discussion list for the Wikidata project. > *Subject:* Re: [Wikidata] Identifiers: Multiple VIAF numbe

Re: [Wikidata] Identifiers: Multiple VIAF numbers

2017-12-17 Thread Brill Lyle
Thanks Thad. That was very helpful. So Jeff, if you aren't the contact from OCLC who works with VIAF, can you tell us who is, and if they have any plans to address this issue? :-) Best, - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle * On Thu,

[Wikidata] Identifiers: Multiple VIAF numbers

2017-12-12 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi all, I understand this is probably outside the scope of Wikidata-l, but I am looking for advice in what I am noticing is a somewhat re-occuring issue with VIAF identifiers. For a lot of items, I am finding 2 or more VIAF numbers for BLP subjects. Recently I've found up to 4 VIAF numbers: -

Re: [Wikidata] Recoin2: New version of relative completeness status indicator for all entities

2017-12-11 Thread Brill Lyle
* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 2:11 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Thu, Dec 7, 2017 at 7:50 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Hi Simon, > > >

Re: [Wikidata] Recoin2: New version of relative completeness status indicator for all entities

2017-12-07 Thread Brill Lyle
e is a way to have fast, maybe > via triggers on changes. > > Cheers, > Simon > > On 6 December 2017 at 23:45, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Simon, >> >> I installed Recoin and really like the idea of this indicator. I th

Re: [Wikidata] Recoin2: New version of relative completeness status indicator for all entities

2017-12-06 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Simon, I installed Recoin and really like the idea of this indicator. I think it's very useful. Unfortunately, I am seeing a real delay in the indicator populating, with a significant delay of the full page browser refresh. Is that something that can be improved? Best, - Erika *Erika

Re: [Wikidata] [wikicite-discuss] Cleaning up bibliographic collections in Wikidata

2017-11-29 Thread Brill Lyle
In addition to the Black Lunch Table project, which focuses on Visual artists from the African Diaspora, that James mentions below -- the GLAM projects for Colección Patricia Phelps de Cisneros ("CPPC") and WIKIarte, which focus on Latin American art, are both using the catalog P972 as well.

Re: [Wikidata] Query Assistance

2017-04-09 Thread Brill Lyle
>> data for place of birth, death, education, residence etc may simply not >> have been added to Wikidata. But this does let you see what we do have, >> so I hope it is of help. >> >> All best regards, >> >>James. >> >> >> On 09/04/2017 21:

Re: [Wikidata] Query Assistance

2017-04-09 Thread Brill Lyle
). > > Med vänliga hälsningar > Jan Ainali > http://ainali.com > > 2017-04-09 21:47 GMT+02:00 Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com>: > >> I hope it is possible to do this query. It will be very helpful for >> administering task lists for each event. >> >&g

Re: [Wikidata] Query Assistance

2017-04-09 Thread Brill Lyle
On Sun, Apr 9, 2017 at 3:47 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > I hope it is possible to do this query. It will be very helpful for > administering task lists for each event. > > The idea is that all of the different information: > - residence (P551) > - place of

Re: [Wikidata] Query Assistance

2017-04-09 Thread Brill Lyle
dt%3AP551%20%3Fresidence% >> 20%7D%0A%20%20OPTIONAL%20%7B%20%3Fitem%20wdt%3AP69%20% >> 3Feducation%20%7D%0A%20%20SERVICE%20wikibase%3Alabel% >> 20%7B%20bd%3AserviceParam%20wikibase%3Alanguage%20%22en%22%20%7D%0A%7D >> >> Cdlt, ~nicolas >> >> 2017-04-08 3:39 GMT

[Wikidata] Query Assistance

2017-04-07 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi there, I need to do a Wikidata query of the Black Lunch Table task list that includes location-specific faceted searching: So for the upcoming Boston event, would like to be able to search by - residence (P551) - place of birth (P19) - place of death (P20) - educated at (P69) and maybe -

Re: [Wikidata] Open Library, OCLC (VIAF) and Wikidata

2017-04-02 Thread Brill Lyle
I'm not sure but VIAF does tie publications to the creators -- it's in the middle of the VIAF entry. Maybe that's what Gerard is talking about? - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle * On Sat, Apr 1, 2017 at 6:26 AM, raffaele messuti

Re: [Wikidata] Documentation sprint for Wikidata during the Wikimedia Hackathon

2017-03-02 Thread Brill Lyle
Hello Wikidatans, I have been very vocal about the lack of documentation -- and critical need for documentation regarding Wikidata. I haven't had a chance to watch the recent intro to Wikidata video that Asaf did here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVrAx3AmUvA but I think it is in essence and

Re: [Wikidata] Using WD categories to mark items

2017-02-07 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Vladimir and Thad, As to Thad's suggestion: I think this is a bad idea, as it ties Black Lunch Table to Visual artists of the African diaspora in a misleading way. These artists are not specifically Black Lunch Table artists -- they are part of the effort to address a diversity gap on the

Re: [Wikidata] Wikipedia Task Lists for Editathons using Wikidata

2017-02-06 Thread Brill Lyle
gt; > So yes, having a list is no problem but as in any tool, value is added > when you take the tool seriously. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 5 February 2017 at 09:51, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Hi Wikidatans, >> >> Inspired by

Re: [Wikidata] Determining Wikidata Usage in Wikipedia Pages

2016-11-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Supplying this information as a use case -- from my personal Wikipedia editing. For editathons held in NYC via our local Wikipedia chapter, I do a scrub for edits that includes Commons and Wikidata edits. I use the *Global contributions (GUC)* interface (https://tools.wmflabs.org/

Re: [Wikidata] [wikicite-discuss] Entity tagging and fact extraction (from a scholarly publisher perspective)

2016-11-12 Thread Brill Lyle
But the Mix'n'Match tool doesn't work fully -- at least not for Wiki Markup when I tested it the last time. This functionality is critical. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle * On Fri, Nov 11, 2016 at 4:18 PM, Marco Fossati

[Wikimedia-l] Project Grant: Twitterpedian-in-Residence -- Request for Review and Endorsement (10/11 -- today -- deadline)

2016-10-11 Thread Brill Lyle
*Apologies if you receive this as a cross-posting. I am re-sending this one last time as there is an October 11 deadline for review, and the grant has been updated a bit. **Thanks in advance.* Hi Wikipedians, I have written a *Wikimedia Grant Proposal: "Twitterpedian-in-Residence"* and would be

[Gendergap] Project Grant: Twitterpedian-in-Residence

2016-10-10 Thread Brill Lyle
*Apologies if you receive this as a cross-posting.* Hi Wikipedians, I have written a *Wikimedia Grant Proposal: "Twitterpedian-in-Residence"* and would be grateful for review, feedback, advice, and endorsement, if the proposal seems positive.

Re: [Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-10 Thread Brill Lyle
:57 AM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > On 9 October 2016 at 12:34, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > > So I have been noticing that Twitter links often found in the External > link section is starting to move to Wikidata on English Wikipedia.

Re: [Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-09 Thread Brill Lyle
I found the bot and the editors who are doing the change. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:JJMC89_bot I still think Wikidata needs to be part of this discussion, especially if more of these items push to Wikidata. ___ Wikidata mailing list

Re: [Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-09 Thread Brill Lyle
Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 1:55 PM, Yaroslav M. Blanter <pute...@mccme.ru> wrote: > On 09.10.2016 19:46, Brill Lyle wrote: > >> So if this is not the place to discuss these issues, should I be going >&

Re: [Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-09 Thread Brill Lyle
gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How on EARTH could this be the wrong place to talk about this? I am still >> laughing. >> > > Because it's a political/social decision to make

Re: [Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-09 Thread Brill Lyle
< egon.willigha...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Sun, Oct 9, 2016 at 5:25 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> How on EARTH could this be the wrong place to talk about this? I am still >> laughing. >> > > Because it's a political/social decisi

Re: [Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-09 Thread Brill Lyle
edit Wikidata for beginners. > > 2016-10-09 13:34 GMT+02:00 Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com>: >> So I have been noticing that Twitter links often found in the External link >> section is starting to move to Wikidata on English Wikipedia. {{Twitter}} >> template is

[Wikidata] External link Twitter --> Wikidata

2016-10-09 Thread Brill Lyle
So I have been noticing that Twitter links often found in the External link section is starting to move to Wikidata on English Wikipedia. {{Twitter}} template is used much like with {{Authority control}} Was there consensus or discussion about this before it's implementation? I am hoping there

Re: [Wikipedia-l] Editors not understanding the context?

2016-09-14 Thread Brill Lyle
FYI I added a template to the Talk page that I "borrowed" and blanked from Lata Mangeshkar's page -- please update / customize as is helpful. Recommend that to prevent speedy deletions - work on article on namespace/draftspace if possible - 5 to 10 (ideally) Wikilinked citations from large

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thoughts about upcoming Wikimedia strategy

2016-09-12 Thread Brill Lyle
Good points and thoughts here, Pine. *3. Governance* *Decentralization*I think is non-ideal. If WMF becomes incapacitated or corrupted the whole ship goes down. I don't see how decentralizing the structure would prevent this happenstance -- or more importantly provide a solution or contingency

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikitech-l] Wikidata Query Service demo video

2016-09-07 Thread Brill Lyle
Could this be placed somewhere prominent and easy to find -- maybe in the Help section? Speaking of: Is there is a compendium of videos that are good like this on the Wikidata site? I would love to play some of these at our monthly WikiWednesday salon & skillshare during our lightning talk

[Wikidata] Wikidata - Property Proposal

2016-09-06 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Wikidatans, After going past my 500th edit on Wikidata #Whee! I was hoping to dip my toe into doing something that would involve a larger scale project, like adding database information to Wikidata. There's a database I use all the time that is excellent, rich, deep, and well-deployed -- at

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-23 Thread Brill Lyle
I am fundamentally dismayed to read the response that this is not a discussion. I am baffled. Shutting down discussion is rule #1 in NOT fostering community. To create a one-way flow of communication with parties engaged enough to take the time to actively discuss concerns is a non-ideal

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-22 Thread Brill Lyle
This is beautifully said. I just love it. Thank you! > On Aug 22, 2016, at 8:13 PM, Gnangarra wrote: > > We need to focus on building communities > > To me the first thing that should change is rather than focusing on how to > bring down chapters we should be focusing on

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Affiliates] Changes to current chapter and thematic organisation criteria

2016-08-19 Thread Brill Lyle
I agree with Lane. Setting higher criteria is all well and good -- as is expecting boards to be cognizant of these expectations. But we are dealing with volunteers doing a significant amount of free digital labor and organizing. To set a bar super high in that structure is a lot to expect of

Re: [Wikidata] pattern for linking to linked data ?

2016-08-17 Thread Brill Lyle
This sounds very similar to the Authority Control elements, which are tightly controlled. Is there a related template being used in Wikipedia cf. {{Authority control}}? It seems logical to use Database name = value, unless I am not understanding? This would be great for other specific data

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Wikimedians of Iowa User Group

2016-08-08 Thread Brill Lyle
This is great news. I've been trying to assist interested Nebraska Wikipedia editors and librarians with editathons and basic organization. The Midwest Silicon Prairie should include Wikipedia 100%! Please reach out if Wikimedia NYC or other chapters can skill-share, etc. Our chapter has

Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

2016-08-05 Thread Brill Lyle
*Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 3:45 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > Andy and others -- > > Would it be helpful if I did a slide deck that has this as a printable / > proje

Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

2016-08-05 Thread Brill Lyle
, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for > manually > > inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikip

Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

2016-08-05 Thread Brill Lyle
iki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 1:50 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for > manually inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to > Wikidata for new pages that have no ass

Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

2016-08-05 Thread Brill Lyle
I forgot about the duplicate issue. I think the assumption here is a new Wikipedia page -- which is what we encounter at many of the editathons here in NYC -- and how to get Authority control in as a new Wikidata item, but I think I will footnote this Thanks! - Erika *Erika Herzog*

Re: [Wikidata] Authority control help

2016-08-05 Thread Brill Lyle
tps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Fri, Aug 5, 2016 at 2:29 PM, Andy Mabbett <a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk> wrote: > On 5 August 2016 at 18:50, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for > manually >

[Wikidata] Authority control help

2016-08-05 Thread Brill Lyle
I created a pretty rough, but hopefully still usable, help page for manually inputting and moving Authority control metadata from Wikipedia to Wikidata for new pages that have no associated Wikidata item. https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Tours/Authority_control Wasn't sure if it is okay to

Re: [Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-04 Thread Brill Lyle
Yes. Point taken John. Wow. Thank goodness I use syntax highlighting #love... but still: Yikes. Here's the link to the page if anyone wants to dig around the madness. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_Kingdom I guess I see a difference between a casual editor wanting to update a piece of data

Re: [Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Brill Lyle
Because this proposal involves depreciating the infobox to Wikipedia -- my biggest concern -- I changed my endorsement to Weak Support but under no circumstances implement on English Wikipedia. I think it would be a very bad approach. The Danish examples seemed more ideal, which was why I changed

Re: [Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Brill Lyle
e enough, they will not switch to use it until we have our processes > improved. But having other pieces of the puzzle in place will increase the > pressure on Wikidata to fix remaining pain points, and possibly do exactly > what Erika is asking for: make the voice of current Wikipedia

Re: [Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Brill Lyle
only in Wikidata. *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Brill Lyle, 03/08/2016 18:53: > >> Speaking of: Where's the user documentation for

Re: [Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Brill Lyle
Wikipedia templates into the semantics of Wikidata? I find this maddening. And a big problem. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 12:15 PM, Federico Leva (Nemo) <nemow...@gmail.com> wrote: > Brill Lyle

Re: [Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Brill Lyle
Aug 3, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Wed, Aug 3, 2016 at 4:06 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > > The paper focuses, yet again on Visual Editor. And while I understand > that > > many editors prefer this,

[Wikidata] Info box proposal

2016-08-03 Thread Brill Lyle
Saw this posted on Twitter. https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Grants:Project/Putnik/Wikidata_module This proposal is my greatest fear with Wikidata. Depreciate Infoboxes to Wikidata so casual Wikipedia editors can't edit on Wiki, are forced to use Wikidata (comparable to existing Authority

Re: [Wikidata] Controversy around Wikimania talks

2016-07-31 Thread Brill Lyle
Gerard's point that the items are typically found in Wikimedia Commons I think is key. If the item is part of a sister project to Wikidata then it has a corresponding place on Wikidata. Unless I misunderstand the interoperability and mission of Wikidata. Also: I am not a fan of deleting

Re: [Wikidata] first Commons prototype is live \o/

2016-07-28 Thread Brill Lyle
On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:38 PM, Lydia Pintscher < lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.de> wrote: > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 8:24 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > > > On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 2:13 PM, Lydia Pintscher > > <lydia.pintsc...@wikimedia.

Re: [Wikidata] first Commons prototype is live \o/

2016-07-28 Thread Brill Lyle
This is a great development. Not sure if this is helpful to discuss here or if it is preferrable on the Structured data page? Please advise and I will copy info there. https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons_talk:Structured_data In May 2015, Wikimedia NYC supported an editathon with the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Suggesting moderation

2016-07-26 Thread Brill Lyle
I was on a very active music mailing list for over 10 years and I was grateful it was not moderated. Moderation can inhibit discussion, even when there are disruptors, and it also requires moderators donate a lot of volunteer hours. Which I think within the Wikimedia family community is already

Re: [Wikidata] Geo-coordinates?

2016-07-12 Thread Brill Lyle
Thanks so much Stas. Apologies for not following up sooner. I think in order for this to work, we would need to create Wikidata pages that link to Wikipedia:Meetup event pages, I think. 1. Is this possible? 2. Do other chapters do this? We don't typically use Meta #shudder for event pages so

[Wikidata] Geo-coordinates?

2016-07-08 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi, Saw mention of the Geo-coordinates feature being live on the IRC chat today. Apologies if this is a dumb question: How does one access and/or apply coordinates on Wikidata? I would like to add these or figure out a way to create a pathway between Wiki pages with coordinates and Wikidata.

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

2016-07-07 Thread Brill Lyle
These are great -- and love the videos. THANK YOU -- dreams can come true! :-) - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle * On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at 3:01 PM, Magnus Manske wrote: > Sure, maybe it gets more people

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

2016-07-07 Thread Brill Lyle
My concern is that I don't want to bring up anything that might be even a little negative or critical -- as I think this is a delicate issue that could have a real blow-back effect on Wikidata. It would be framed from a constructive perspective, and would reference these upcoming tools, but what

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

2016-07-07 Thread Brill Lyle
e a "set" (e.g. all women chemists), that is, > have all statements references in those items > * Special watchlist for new statements without reference, especially on > otherwise "completely referenced" items > > Magnus > > On Thu, Jul 7, 2016 at

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

2016-07-07 Thread Brill Lyle
*blanket, not blanked... ___ Wikidata mailing list Wikidata@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikidata

Re: [Wikidata] Verifiability and living people

2016-07-07 Thread Brill Lyle
I understand the intention behind the RFC but it's pretty clear that if enforced these changes would effectively ruin Wikidata. This underlying issue is that Wikidata does not have a good enough mechanism to fully cite the way Wikipedia does, and even Wikipedia does not require the type of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-27 Thread Brill Lyle
Saw this on the latest issue of Tech News ( https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Tech/News/2016/26). Thought it might be interest as it's directly related to this thread. https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Edit_Review_Improvements see also: https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/tag/edit-review-improvements/

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-26 Thread Brill Lyle
I know David in real life so maybe I am not as objective as I could be but I know how hard he works and how diligent he is about this admin work he does. He is doing the devil's work in my opinion. I couldn't do what he does so I'm thankful for his efforts. Thank you David. When David has flagged

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-26 Thread Brill Lyle
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Sun, Jun 26, 2016 at 11:33 AM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> wrote: > Thanks for the responses. I think the overarching thought I have is that > Wikipedia needs to learn as much from editors as editors need to learn from >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-26 Thread Brill Lyle
s really great to see this > various explanations. > > > On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 6:34 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Gadzooks! The comments you made about friendly editors to a large > community > > of Wikipedia editors, maybe re-t

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
r <mmi...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi! > > Thank you for your responses. > > On Fri, Jun 24, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Brill Lyle <wp.brilll...@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Please include your user name and the name of the article you were > working > > on. Without an

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
it's less contested? Best, - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle>* On Sat, Jun 25, 2016 at 4:11 AM, carl hansen <carlhansen1...@gmail.com> wrote: > > Brill Lyle, normally connecting real world identity with Wikipedia id >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Why are articles being deleted?

2016-06-25 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Mitar, I haven't been on Wiki-l that long so not sure how (or if) people respond to this issue, which is somewhat common. I will take a stab at responding and will try to keep it short and sweet as you said you don't want a lot of Wiki:Rulz First off: Please include your user name and the

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Community survey to support the WMF ED search starts right now

2016-06-20 Thread Brill Lyle
I have over 15 years experience working in the private sector at an investment bank, much of it working in Mergers & Acquisitions where companies and their leadership were the focus of evaluating companies. I would hope that whatever information is in the A.T. Kearney report, or anything coming

Re: [Wikidata] editing from Wikipedia and co

2016-06-08 Thread Brill Lyle
This is a wishlist item for me -- to have an editable form to input Wikidata-friendly data while on Wikipedia -- so I am very happy to see this analysis, especially as it seems to focus on usability and end-user perspectives. I hope equal weight is given to both the Visual Editor and the Wiki

Re: [Wikidata] WDQS URL shortener

2016-06-01 Thread Brill Lyle
For many events at Wikimedia NYC, we use a shortcut -- once you're on Wikipedia -- like "WP:Harlem" also known as "Wikipedia:Harlem" The redirect (before it redirects): https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Wikipedia:Harlem=no Redirects to the Schomburg editathon we held earlier this year

Re: [Wikimedia-l] The end

2016-05-17 Thread Brill Lyle
I feel really bad for the person who started this thread. I hope and assume that the WMF response means they have some sort of way to provide support to someone suffering from ideations of suicide. In addition to a policy on safe space -- which I know exists and our local chapter as well as our

Re: [Wikidata] [Wikimedia-l] ArticlePlaceholder now live on first 4 Wikipedias

2016-05-13 Thread Brill Lyle
This is a tool that will be really useful to the AfroCROWD initiative that Alice Backer leads (cc'd, as well as Pharos) -- especially for the Haitian Creole community. I'm hoping AfroCROWD and WM NYC can support an intensive translatathon focusing on Wikidata, and really take advantage of this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] ArticlePlaceholder now live on first 4 Wikipedias

2016-05-13 Thread Brill Lyle
This is a tool that will be really useful to the AfroCROWD initiative that Alice Backer leads (cc'd, as well as Pharos) -- especially for the Haitian Creole community. I'm hoping AfroCROWD and WM NYC can support an intensive translatathon focusing on Wikidata, and really take advantage of this

Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-13 Thread Brill Lyle
Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle> Secretary, Wikimedia NYC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC> On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 9:22 PM, Kevin Smith <ksm...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > On Thu, May 12, 2016 at 7:04 AM,

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Recognition of Florida Librarians of Wikipedia

2016-05-12 Thread Brill Lyle
Congratulations to this new user group! Hope it's okay -- I added a link to this meta page to the Wikipedia:Meetup namespace: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup#Projects_.26_initiatives Please reach out if any of us local Wikipedia chapters can be of assistance. To the best of our

Re: [Wikimedia-l] REMINDER: Invitation to upcoming office hours with WMF interim Executive Director

2016-05-12 Thread Brill Lyle
1. The sound quality was fine from what I saw and heard. I was on a desktop computer using the Blue Jeans thing (which had the YouTube video playing) and IRC chat -- and etherpad 2. Session notes were done live in Wiki Markup format on the etherpad which resulted in a truly great cooperative

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Board meeting minutes

2016-05-11 Thread Brill Lyle
Also, a request: Please add: - User names (i.e., {{User0|BrillLyle}} - Links to relevant topics of conversation (i.e., Code of Conduct and Confidentiality Agreement) and events (i.e., WikiCite 2016) The March meeting minutes are making me itchy -- I want to add these links Here at WM NYC we

Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-05 Thread Brill Lyle
Thanks for doing this. It is much appreciated. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* Secretary, Wikimedia NYC On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 11:30 PM, Gregory Varnum

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-04 Thread Brill Lyle
Not really what I was asking. I understand the URI and what the permalink does/is. But thanks anyway. - Erika *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* Secretary, Wikimedia NYC On Wed, May 4,

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-04 Thread Brill Lyle
a *Erika Herzog* Wikipedia *User:BrillLyle* <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:BrillLyle> Secretary, Wikimedia NYC <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Meetup/NYC> On Wed, May 4, 2016 at 8:15 AM, Andrew Gray <andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk> wrote: > On 3 May 2016 at 17:47, Bri

Re: [Wikimedia-l] election for 2 seats on WMF board of trustees ends May 7...

2016-05-03 Thread Brill Lyle
Agree wholeheartedly. Don't need details but a summary list of chapters and the record of who voted would be very welcome. I was dismayed that this information was private. It seems like transparency of basic information like this should be the goal here. I don't think detailed information is

Re: [Wikidata] Aren't pages too long?

2016-05-03 Thread Brill Lyle
As someone very intimidated and overwhelmed by the Wikidata interface, I agree the list of elements is too long. I was trying to update Authority Control for a Wikipedia entry and it was a lot of scrolling around to make sure I wasn't adding duplicates, etc. A Table of Contents would be a huge

Re: [Wikipedia-l] How might interactive maps be used on Wikipedia?

2016-05-02 Thread Brill Lyle
I was also wondering about OpenStreetMap, and if there was any sort of cooperative integration with Wikimedia projects. As far as useful maps, the genealogy society I am a member of has these incredible resource maps. Main locality page:

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Calendars

2016-04-29 Thread Brill Lyle
Hi Quiddity, This is great. I will go over the link you shared. I think I combed through many if not all of these pages, but will double-check. The Calendars I sent out previously now live on the WM NYC Event Archive page here:

[Wikimedia-l] Calendars

2016-04-28 Thread Brill Lyle
Hello -- In an effort to de-clutter the Wikimedia NYC calendar -- and to support the various initiatives and enhance event calendaring within Wikimedia -- after some active discussion, Wikimedia NYC (well that would be me) has set up the following calendars. Many events were pulled from these

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Funding Citation Hunt

2016-04-23 Thread Brill Lyle
I agree this is not a black and white issue. To depend upon a volunteer workforce to chip away at big picture issues -- especially relating to citations (with the idea that they become systemized and full on integrated with Wikidata in a super user friendly way) -- is (a) impractical and (b)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-11 Thread Brill Lyle
Thanks for the response, Pine. I don't know if I agree with your assessment re: resigning being the solution, but I am as not fully versed in many of the details as you are obviously. I see this resignation as a real loss to the community, and hope that possibly going forward there might be

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [recent changes]

2016-04-09 Thread Brill Lyle
I find this issue of Conflict of Interest exceedingly problematic. Almost every person working and living today will have a conflict of interest somehow, especially as one becomes a contributor to any of the Wikimedia projects, gets to know people, tries to organize events or promote the value of

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