[FRIAM] Some funny spoofs of LLM fascination

2023-03-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/04/03/upcoming-landmarks-in-artificial-intelligence?utm_source=nl_brand=tny_mailing=TNY_Humor_032723_campaign=aud-dev_medium=email=5bea160d24c17c6adf1d90ff=26657004=auto_captionentrants_content=A_term=TNY_Humor --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz,

[FRIAM] We're at Downtown Subscription

2023-03-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
They were waxing the floor at St John's. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p

[FRIAM] Sentience

2023-03-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
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[FRIAM] AI and Weirdness

2023-03-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Many of you may have seen this article...

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT and William James

2023-03-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
If you live with a baby you see that they have knowledge that can't be based on "data". --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Mar 6, 2023, 2:50 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > How? > > > > *From:* Friam *On

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT and William James

2023-03-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
>And we humans are different? In a word, yes. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Mar 6, 2023, 12:14 PM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > *However, it's important to remember that there are also important > differences between a large

Re: [FRIAM] vFriam

2023-03-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
your > preferred time and what times would be acceptible? > > Nick > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 10:10 AM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> So far the only one who has arrived is Stephen, who has now left. If no >> one shows up by, say, 10:15 I will close the meeting and ch

Re: [FRIAM] vFriam

2023-03-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
d be your > preferred time and what times would be acceptible? > > Nick > > On Thu, Mar 2, 2023 at 10:10 AM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> So far the only one who has arrived is Stephen, who has now left. If no >> one shows up by, say, 10:15 I will close the m

[FRIAM] vFriam

2023-03-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
So far the only one who has arrived is Stephen, who has now left. If no one shows up by, say, 10:15 I will close the meeting and check in later but at no particular time. Frank -- Frank Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Research: https://www.researchgate.net

Re: [FRIAM] [EXT] News Alert: Most young men are single. Most young women are not.

2023-02-22 Thread Frank Wimberly
; On 2/22/23 09:16, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > I am worried however. I have two grandsons in their 20s. Each has a > girlfriend. Those young women want nothing to do with babies. I assume > they have younger siblings. I hope that as they enter their 30s their > attitudes will cha

Re: [FRIAM] [EXT] News Alert: Most young men are single. Most young women are not.

2023-02-22 Thread Frank Wimberly
I am worried however. I have two grandsons in their 20s. Each has a girlfriend. Those young women want nothing to do with babies. I assume they have younger siblings. I hope that as they enter their 30s their attitudes will change because of the realization that they are running out of time.

Re: [FRIAM] ChatGPT knows FRIAM

2023-02-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
learning more about the group, you might be able to find more > information on their website or through social media channels. > Alternatively, you could try reaching out to the Santa Fe Institute, which > has connections with many researchers and organizations in the Santa Fe > area

Re: [FRIAM] Tangents and the Hamiltonian of News/Cultural Narratives

2023-02-18 Thread Frank Wimberly
Steve Quibbles: An uncountable set is infinite. It's just that there are infinite sets with larger cardinality. There is only one tangent vector at a point along a differentiable curve, I believe. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
Based on my experience, if you tell a Mexican that you changed your mind in Spanish (me cambié la mente) they say, "you can't change your mind you can only change your opinion/intention/etc." --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Feb 17,

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Categories

2023-02-16 Thread Frank Wimberly
me a (shudder) nominalist? I hope not. >> >>> Words…nouns in particular… confuse this category business. Words >> place constraints on how vague these nodes can be. They impose on the >> network constraints to which it is ill suited. True, the more my >> a

Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
Eric Charles > *Sent:* Wednesday, February 15, 2023 10:29 AM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening? > > > > Well shoot. that would do it Thank you! > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Thuram still happening?

2023-02-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
Today is Wednesday, isn't it? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Feb 15, 2023, 10:19 AM Eric Charles wrote: > Are the Thursday online meetings still happening? I missed a few weeks due > to work piling up meetings on, but I'm trying

Re: [FRIAM] Turning Psychology into a Social Science

2023-01-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
Saw this on Facebook https://photos.app.goo.gl/ogQSsx7ahJ2utqdR8 --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jan 24, 2023, 5:31 PM Steve Smith wrote: > As usual, I wasn't seeking anything near as crisp as I think you are. I > was merely

Re: [FRIAM] help with archives

2023-01-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
This led me to look at the archive. This list is 19 years old. I should've known. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Jan 20, 2023, 3:13 PM Prof David West wrote: > Pardon my ignorance of something I should know how to do, but have

Re: [FRIAM] unrest in SoAm & Global ideological/sociopolitical/economic alignment...

2023-01-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
Unless I missed it Mexico wasn't mentioned. I've been there multiple times and I cultivated friendships with university students and young employees in the early 90s. Although I initially contacted these people via internet Debby and I eventually met a number of them and their families during

Re: [FRIAM] Sorting Algorithm? AI? Identifying "types" within data

2023-01-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
This answer seems reasonable to me. I worked on Project Talent during 1967 which had some similar goals and data. See https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Project_Talent Our data was for thousands of highschool students and our software was all written in Fortran. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle

Re: [FRIAM] THURAM virtual meeting

2023-01-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
, 2023 at 12:34 PM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> This morning we were there from 9:00 to 11:00 MST. Sorry we missed you. >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >&g

Re: [FRIAM] THURAM virtual meeting

2023-01-05 Thread Frank Wimberly
This morning we were there from 9:00 to 11:00 MST. Sorry we missed you. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Jan 5, 2023, 11:18 AM Eric Charles wrote: > So, what's the status on the Thursday meetings? > > Are they happening and

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2023-01-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
chnology and Science Laboratory > (ARTS Lab) > Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico > > 1017 Sierra Pinon > Santa Fe, NM 87501 > 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu > 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel > > On Jan 3, 2023, a

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2023-01-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
>For people it’s somewhere in the 70-80 ... As I approach 80 I'm not happy about this. I read or heard that a person over 80 has about a 0.3 probability of dying each year. I calculated, possibly using incorrect assumptions, that that means that the conditional probability of living to 90

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2023-01-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
ish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ >> 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ >> > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom > https:

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2022-12-30 Thread Frank Wimberly
Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:16 AM Stephen Guerin wrote: > I'm heading to Pecos Trail Cafe. Gorge will appreciate us coming. > > On Fri, Dec 30, 2022, 9:05 AM Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> To my surprise St John's Peterson Cent

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2022-12-30 Thread Frank Wimberly
PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning? > > Frank > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. ---

Re: [FRIAM] Friday AM

2022-12-29 Thread Frank Wimberly
See you there, John. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:49 PM John Dobson wrote: > I plan to be there. John Dobson > > On Thu, Dec 29, 2022, 8:44 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> Is anyone planning

[FRIAM] Friday AM

2022-12-29 Thread Frank Wimberly
Is anyone planning to be at St John's tomorrow morning? Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe

[FRIAM] vFriam on Thursday

2022-12-29 Thread Frank Wimberly
As of 10:15 no one has arrived. Last week Barry attended for about an hour. Jack came briefly. Nick arrived after the others had left. I made him a co-host so he could admit others. Nick is back in Santa Fe. Jack Lives in Los Alamos. I would like to see comments about whether vFriam has

Re: [FRIAM] The WEBB seeing back to the first millennia

2022-12-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
My guess: stars, including the Sun, are constantly producing and emitting new photons. This happens as a result of fusion and other processes. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Dec 28, 2022, 9:21 AM Owen Densmore wrote: > In aj

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

2022-12-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
: The symbol "⊃" is the logical symbol for "implies." It is used to form conditional statements in which the formula on the right is true only if the formula on the left is true. Eric, that is an error. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

2022-12-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
ve. What's the old saying? It's better to keep your mouth shut and appear > stupid than to open it and show everyone you are stupid? Oh well. I guess > that ship's sailed. 8^D > > On 12/27/22 11:04, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > My definition is consistent with that. The only state of a

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

2022-12-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
e formula on the left is > true. Not “only if” as gtp is quoted to say above. Correct would be “the > formula on the right is _false_ _only if_ the formula on the left is > _false_. Conditional doesn’t say anything about whether B is true or false > if A is not true. > &

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

2022-12-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
e formula on the right is true _if_ the formula on the left is > true. Not “only if” as gtp is quoted to say above. Correct would be “the > formula on the right is _false_ _only if_ the formula on the left is > _false_. Conditional doesn’t say anything about whether B is true or false >

Re: [FRIAM] talking to bots is fun for everyone

2022-12-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
I've taken courses in formal logic at multiple levels. All that notation is familiar and the explanation seems correct if vacuous. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Dec 27, 2022, 3:19 AM David Eric Smith wrote: > Interesting.

Re: [FRIAM] Merry Xmas from AI-Art mashup

2022-12-25 Thread Frank Wimberly
https://santafe.com/how-to-farolito/ --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Dec 25, 2022, 11:46 AM Jochen Fromm wrote: > Merry Christmas from Berlin. I have heard you have In Santa Fe a festival > where you put lots of lanterns on

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
_Species_separation_and_modification_of_neutron_diagnostics_in_inertial-confinement_fusion/figures?lo=1 >> >> https://www.energy.gov/science/doe-explainsnuclear-fusion-reactions < >> https://www.energy.gov/science/doe-explainsnuclear-fusion-reactions> >&

Re: [FRIAM] technical notes on fusion announcement

2022-12-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
DT = deuterium? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Dec 13, 2022, 10:21 AM glen wrote: > Awesome. Thanks. I'm still trying to catch up with the QC Wormhole > kerfuffle. Who knew Quanta was so click baity? > > What is "DT"? > > On

Re: [FRIAM] models

2022-12-09 Thread Frank Wimberly
The use of the word "theory" in mathematics is different than in other realms. For example group theory and measure theory are, to mathematicians, self contained systems of axioms and theorems. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Dec

Re: [FRIAM] First Sign of Spring

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Wimberly
Las Cruces. Feminine noun. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, 1:25 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > Los Cruces > > On Thu, Dec 8, 2022, 11:29 AM Nicholas Thompson > wrote: > >> And Roger!? Where are you going to fetch

[FRIAM] Please join Zoom meeting in progress

2022-12-08 Thread Frank Wimberly
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Re: [FRIAM] First Sign of Spring

2022-12-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
But the shortest day is around the 21st so that means that sunrise must be later than usual at this time. Right? --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 9:43 AM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Today is the shortest afternoon of

Re: [FRIAM] Index of AI tools

2022-12-07 Thread Frank Wimberly
That will cause the singularity. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Dec 7, 2022, 8:58 AM cody dooderson wrote: > Those are cool. I didn't realize that there were so many. I will start > looking through them. > I tried to write this

Re: [FRIAM] Find String in Spreadsheet

2022-11-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
ySQL and Workbench, you could try LibreOffice Base (the > database component) to accomplish the same thing. This would be the > open source equivalent of using Microsoft Access. > > All this from memory and speculation, of course (isn't that what us > FRIAM'ers are best at?).. > > Ga

Re: [FRIAM] Find String in Spreadsheet

2022-11-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
but it's not something I've used before (despite > having done a good bit of Excel VBA in the past). > > What are you trying to accomplish? > > Thanks, > > Brent > > > > On Sat, Nov 26, 2022 at 10:42 AM, Frank Wimberly > wrote: > I used to know Excel pretty wel

[FRIAM] Find String in Spreadsheet

2022-11-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
I used to know Excel pretty well but that was decades ago. I want to find a given string, say "Wimberly" in a large spreadsheet. How do I do that simply? FIND function wants to provide the location within a larger string of a substring. I want something like the Unix "grep' comm

[FRIAM] Zoom Meeting Started

2022-11-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to

[FRIAM] Thursday Zoom at 10:15am MDT

2022-11-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
I apologize. I won't be home until a little after 10. Most people arrive later than that but for those who are usually early I'm sorry. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. ---

[FRIAM] Zoom meeting has begun

2022-10-27 Thread Frank Wimberly
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to

Re: [FRIAM] moral of the story?

2022-10-23 Thread Frank Wimberly
Who was killed? Ball? Many authors were mentioned in the article. I wish Hywel were here. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Oct 23, 2022, 5:03 AM David Eric Smith wrote: > Well that’s a relief. > > > On Oct 21, 2022, at 7:07 PM,

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
; Ok, I don’t normally like celebrity stories, but that is neat. > > On Oct 21, 2022, at 4:03 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > >  > As for "NeXT machine's software RIP", Rick Rashid, who was central in the > development of that software, was my office neighbor. He left to t

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
As for "NeXT machine's software RIP", Rick Rashid, who was central in the development of that software, was my office neighbor. He left to take a position at Microsoft as VP of Research. I wonder if the software is RIPing. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
of various scripts. That you didn't notice > such is interesting. > > On 10/21/22 08:08, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Yes. From the user's perspective they ran identically. Those > workstations didn't even have the same instruction sets. > > > > --- > > Frank C. Wimbe

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-21 Thread Frank Wimberly
actually mean "produced identical outputs". They > didn't run identically. Simple ways to see this are system and process > monitors, top, strace, etc. > > On 10/20/22 17:19, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > Back in the 80s I wrote many Unix shell scripts. For my purposes they

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
to saying you have the > combination of your gun safe in your mind and also on a piece of paper in > your safety deposit box and also in an encrypted file on your computer? > > > > > > > > Nick Thompson > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nth

Re: [FRIAM] naive question

2022-10-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
Back in the 80s I wrote many Unix shell scripts. For my purposes they ran identically on various workstations whether Sun, SG, or, eventually, Vax (running Unix). The software existed in my mind/brain, in files in the various filesystems, or on paper listings. What's wrong with my thinking?

[FRIAM] Thursday Zoom

2022-10-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
I will start the meeting this morning at about 9:45 (MDT) like last week. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St.

Re: [FRIAM] My Work On Earth Is Not Yet Done

2022-10-20 Thread Frank Wimberly
*NST===>Not at all clear to me what psycho somatic means, unless it involves some sort of assignment of blame. If I, a diabetic eat a hot fudge Sunday and go into ketosis, is my coma psychosomatic? Does it matter that I did it as an unconscious protest against the idiocies of contemporary

Re: [FRIAM] Is consciousness measurable?

2022-10-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
Based on his Facebook info, Jan died. One of his friends gives the details. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Oct 19, 2022, 2:13 PM Douglass Carmichael wrote: > Hard to imagine a computer saying “that’s disgusting” with

Re: [FRIAM] Ralph Abraham, Rob and Chris Shaw (was: Re: Zoom Friam)

2022-10-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
Thank you, Stephen. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Oct 14, 2022, 8:16 PM Stephen Guerin wrote: > > *On Fri, Oct 14, 2022 at 3:45 PM Steve Smith > wrote:* > >> *THE Ralph Abraham >>

Re: [FRIAM] Zoom Friam

2022-10-13 Thread Frank Wimberly
msg me at > 413-404-2942. Thx. N > > > > Nick Thompson > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > *From:* Friam *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Wednesday, October 12, 2022 11:13 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Ap

[FRIAM] Zoom Friam

2022-10-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Will start at about 9:45 MDT tomorrow (Thursday) morning. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe /

[FRIAM] Fwd: Black holes may hide an odd secret about our universe

2022-10-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
What a depressing article. I'm not sure why. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -- Forwarded message - From: The New York Times Date: Wed, Oct 12, 2022, 6:00 AM Subject: Black holes may hide an odd secret about our universe

[FRIAM] Today's Zoom Meeting

2022-10-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
I plan to open the meeting around 9:45am MDT. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, N -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays

Re: [FRIAM] Automata with FFT

2022-10-03 Thread Frank Wimberly
Ah, you city boys. That should be "Mrs. Cow". --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Oct 3, 2022, 1:11 PM Stephen Guerin wrote: > On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 10:20 AM Steve Smith wrote: > >> Glen - >> >> I saw a good little joke this

Re: [FRIAM] What is the response when bad faith is pervasive and coordinated?

2022-10-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
I'm not sure this is relaxant Dave but...When I was a senior at Berkeley I took an upper division course for non-majors in political science (unusual). Among the many required readings was a short book by Eric Hoffer called The True Believer. It presents ideas which may explain schismogenesis.

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

2022-09-30 Thread Frank Wimberly
run with that! > > Assuming it was stupid to bring up atoms, how SHOULD the student respond? > Verbally and behaviorally? > > How do you typically respond to stupid advice? :- ) > > On Fri, Sep 30, 2022, 6:19 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > >> My conclusion: the Lab Tech was dumb for menti

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

2022-09-30 Thread Frank Wimberly
My conclusion: the Lab Tech was dumb for mentioning atoms. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Wed, Sep 28, 2022, 3:21 PM Eric Charles wrote: > Two preliminaries: > 1) For what it's worth, I am trying to back Nick into a different corner

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

2022-09-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
It's not called breakfast at noon. I am wearing black socks. During the Korean War my dad would say that he had to wear his blue uniform. I would say that it wasn't blue but black. I have it stored away. There's nothing blue about it. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

2022-09-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
That's what I always thought. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Mon, Sep 26, 2022, 12:44 PM glen wrote: > Clearly you're a Scientismist! >8^D > > On 9/26/22 11:14, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > I'm sorry I opened that. >

Re: [FRIAM] (no subject)

2022-09-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
I'm sorry I opened that. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Sep 25, 2022, 4:27 PM Jon Zingale wrote: > Steve - > > Reponsive to your references to Sabine Hossenfelder, et al... > > >

Re: [FRIAM] Nick's monism kick

2022-09-23 Thread Frank Wimberly
Yes, and I sent you a brief description of freshman year at Carnegie Tech in1961-62. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Sep 23, 2022, 1:24 PM wrote: > Did you guys not get this? > > > > Nick Thompson > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > >

Re: [FRIAM] truth-preserving math

2022-09-17 Thread Frank Wimberly
3 is {0, {0}, {0, {0}}} according to one approach to a using sets to form numbers that satisfy the Peano axioms. In that approach 0 and the empty set are identical. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Sep 17, 2022, 2:02 PM Gillian

[FRIAM] VFriam

2022-09-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
Will begin around 9:45 MDT today. God willing. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays

Re: [FRIAM] Wolpert - discussion thread placeholder

2022-09-11 Thread Frank Wimberly
My erstwhile boss Raj Reddy was in the same Department with Simon and Newell and knew their work well. He said that it was relatively easy to create a computer program that did the work of a professor that the real challenge would be to develop an autonomous bulldozer. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-09 Thread Frank Wimberly
I always thought "shoot oneself in the foot" was inspired by cowboy gunfighters who were in such a hurry to draw fast that they pulled the trigger before getting their gun out of the holster. I have a Colt 1873 revolver. I'll see if that makes sense. Joke! --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo

Re: [FRIAM] signal and noise

2022-09-09 Thread Frank Wimberly
The related *Causal Markov (CM) condition* states that, conditional on the set of all its direct causes, a node is independent of all variables which are not effects or direct causes of that node --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Sep

Re: [FRIAM] The equations of the mind

2022-09-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
FWIW. Dennett gave a talk at Carnegie Mellon not long after Consciousness Explained was published. He said, "Some wits have said the title should have been 'Consciousess Explained Away'. Ha Ha Ha." With pauses between the Ha's. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505

Re: [FRIAM] more structure-based mind-reading

2022-09-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
I was reading a passage (from this List?) to my wife. My 20 month old granddaughter wanted to say something so she said to me, "Top it! Top it!". That strengthened the bond I feel with her. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Fri, Sep 2,

[FRIAM] Fwd: Fall brAIn (NeuroAI) Seminar

2022-09-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
--- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -- Forwarded message - From: Diane Stidle Date: Fri, Sep 2, 2022, 6:52 AM Subject: Fwd: Fall brAIn (NeuroAI) Seminar To: ml-semi...@cs.cmu.edu You may be interested in this seminar series.

Re: [FRIAM] Thuam

2022-09-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
Frank for maintaining the setting. > > N > > Sent from my Dumb Phone > > On Sep 1, 2022, at 1:44 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > >  > The meeting may be over. I had to go to the dentist. I left Barry, Eric, > and Jack at about 10:30 NM time. > > --- > Frank

Re: [FRIAM] Thuam

2022-09-01 Thread Frank Wimberly
The meeting may be over. I had to go to the dentist. I left Barry, Eric, and Jack at about 10:30 NM time. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Thu, Sep 1, 2022, 11:20 AM Nicholas Thompson wrote: > Let me in > > > Sent from my Dumb Phone

Re: [FRIAM] wtf I thought nuclear weapons was banned since...forever

2022-08-28 Thread Frank Wimberly
Well written, Steve. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Aug 28, 2022, 8:03 PM Steve Smith wrote: > Pandora's cats are out of the bag and nothing will put them back. I'm > not religious but the whole "original sin" thing is a good

[FRIAM] Thursday AM

2022-08-24 Thread Frank Wimberly
I will start the Zoom meeting a little before 10am Mountain Time tomorrow. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St.

Re: [FRIAM] Fourier image space, duality, filtering and compression

2022-08-15 Thread Frank Wimberly
I taught digital signal processing once to MS and PhD students without knowing the field. For what it's worth, I validate Ed's observations. (In my defense, I got very good student evaluations) --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM 87505 On

Re: [FRIAM] Monsoon Information Page

2022-08-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
What I wrote here ^ doesn't make sense. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 10:00 PM Frank Wimberly wrote: > In this season there is often a low over the Southeast which reinforces > the flow from the Gulf

Re: [FRIAM] Monsoon Information Page

2022-08-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
In this season there is often a low over the Southeast which reinforces the flow from the Gulf caused by the 4 Corners high. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 9:56 PM wrote: > https://www.weather.gov/twc/MonsoonInfo >

Re: [FRIAM] FW: monsoon

2022-08-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
When there is a high over the Four Corners its clockwise flow brings moisture from the Gulf. But that's all I know. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 9:39 PM wrote: > Hi, all, > > > > Back in June, when sF had all

Re: [FRIAM] Advice sought: data compromise

2022-08-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
Anonymity is your friend. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sun, Aug 14, 2022, 3:04 PM Roger Critchlow wrote: > I got a "data security incident notification" in the mail from the > "Professional Finance Company, Inc." of Livonia,

[FRIAM] Carnegie Mellon Nanosatellite Project

2022-07-26 Thread Frank Wimberly
https://cmu.is/nanosatellites --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom

Re: [FRIAM] Simple Trig/Geometry challenge. Win a $50 Amazon card :-)

2022-07-22 Thread Frank Wimberly
5)577-5828 > > > On Fri, Jul 22, 2022 at 2:29 PM Frank Wimberly > wrote: > >> Drop a perpendicular from the alpha vertex to S2. >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >>

Re: [FRIAM] YAC - yet another cult

2022-07-19 Thread Frank Wimberly
Looks like a guru to me. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jul 19, 2022, 10:31 AM Merle Lefkoff wrote: > > https://revcom.us/en/avakian/ba-phony-communism-is-dead-long-live-real-communism.html > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2022 at 2:59 PM

Re: [FRIAM] 5G

2022-07-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
it anyway with most digital plans. > > Sent from my iPhone > > > On Jul 14, 2022, at 5:54 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote: > > > >  > > Why would I need 5G cell service? I never download anything that takes > more than a few seconds. > > > > --- > > Fran

[FRIAM] 5G

2022-07-14 Thread Frank Wimberly
Why would I need 5G cell service? I never download anything that takes more than a few seconds. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv

Re: [FRIAM] speaking of hypocrisy

2022-07-12 Thread Frank Wimberly
Not Santa Fe. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jul 12, 2022, 4:38 PM Marcus Daniels wrote: > I think it captures perfectly the culture of Northern New Mexico, no? > > -Original Message- > From: Friam On Behalf Of glen >

[FRIAM] Thursday Zoom

2022-07-06 Thread Frank Wimberly
I will start the meeting around 9:00am MDT. Feel free to come later than that if you like. https://bit.ly/virtualfriam --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied

Re: [FRIAM] Republicans need to renew themselves (was: self-care)

2022-07-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
You probably know this but psychiatrist Eric Berne published a book in 1964 called Games People Play. "Ain't it awful" is one of the games, among dozens of others, that he describes and explains. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat,

Re: [FRIAM] Republicans need to renew themselves (was: self-care)

2022-07-02 Thread Frank Wimberly
Over 1 million registered democrats switched to registering republican this year, so far. Do you really believe that these people somehow became deluded cultists? Maybe they want to vote against Trump endorsed candidates in the primaries. --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM

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