[Wiki-research-l] Re: updating the wikipedia page: "Wikipedia:List of academic studies about Wikipedia"

2024-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wikiresearch declined to eat our own dogfood and consequently it did not enter publications in Wikidata. Given functionality like Scholia, they lose out. Also given that they are not involved, I moved to subjects that are as interesting. Thanks, GerardM On Wed, 13 Mar 2024 at 06:07,

[Wikimedia-l] A Red Wikibase for every Wikipedia

2024-03-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The two biggest technical changes that had a huge impact on all our projects were first Commons and then Wikidata. Commons centralised pictures in one location and this saved Wikimedia a huge amount in storage costs. Wikidata centralised all the interwiki links in one database and it stopped

[Langcom] Re: Moroccan Tamazight (Wp/zgh)

2023-08-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There may be some who consider languages in the Arabic family as ineligible. This is not the case, one example is the Egyptian Arabic Wikipedia. The notion that everyone who speaks one kind of Arabic understands every other version of Arabic is wrong. There are many languages derived from

[Langcom] Re: Haryanvi - script issues

2023-08-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
A script may exist but when it is in complete, does it serve its purpose? Op ma 14 aug. 2023 21:29 schreef MF-Warburg : > The script exists and is being used. > > Gerard Meijssen schrieb am Mo., 14. Aug. > 2023, 20:47: > >> Hoi, >> You can not really write a script wh

[Langcom] Re: Haryanvi - script issues

2023-08-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
sue here is not with fonts or Unicode, but with the fact > that the language is written in two different scripts, which don't have > (and maybe can't have) a script converter between them. > > Am So., 6. Aug. 2023 um 09:29 Uhr schrieb Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...

[Langcom] Re: Haryanvi - script issues

2023-08-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In the past the Wikimedia Foundation paid for the development of characters that became part of Unicode. Missing characters in an existing characterser are "easy. More complicated is to populate fonts withe these added characters..At the time the design of a non-Unicode font was used with

[Wikidata] Re: WEB references

2023-07-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Probably Mrs Lemaire does consider only the primary author to be the recipient for the award. It is not strange when a person is not considered a recipient in this way. Thanks, GerardM On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 at 20:02, Andy Mabbett wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jul 2023 at 18:31, Thomas Douillard

[Langcom] Re: Min Nan aliases

2023-01-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In the past many requests for changes to the domains for projects just did not happen. It is quite complicated we were told... It would be cool when it is technical feasible. Thanks, GerardM On Tue, 24 Jan 2023 at 13:14, Danny B. wrote: > I agree with removal, however, before such

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Recent press around December Office Action

2023-01-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I know the license... is it wise to use these pictures? What is it that the WMF advises? Thanks, GerardM On Sun, 8 Jan 2023 at 14:38, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Dear all, > > Fjmustak (Farah Jack Mustaklem, a recent candidate for the WMF board) has > uploaded a picture of the two jailed

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Long Reddit post laying out inner workings of English Wikipedia

2022-12-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The best competition to the English Wikipedia? Any other Wikipedia. The Wikimedia Foundation increasingly puts its effort outside the borders of the USA. As a techie I am really pleased with a full fledged data centre in France. Then there is the Abstract Wikipedia, given that facts are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost issue is out!

2022-11-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Quote: "A significant minority of participants" so the majority is not what Sign Post represents.. obviously. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 28 Nov 2022 at 17:33, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > The Signpost – Volume 18, Issue 11 – 28 November 2022 > -- > > News and notes:

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

2022-10-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
hat >> different projects consider to be important. I'd really like to encourage >> that other newsletter links be posted on this list. >> >> Risker/Anne >> >> On Mon, 3 Oct 2022 at 07:31, Gerard Meijssen >> wrote: >> >>> Hoi, >>&

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

2022-10-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
gt; Message: 2 >> Date: Sat, 1 Oct 2022 16:35:35 +0200 >> From: Gerard Meijssen >> Subject: [Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out! >> To: Wikimedia Mailing List >> Message-ID: >> > f...@mail.gmail.com> >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The new Signpost is out!

2022-10-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, De Signpost is een publicatie van de Engelse Wikipedia. Waarom wordt de Wikimedia mailing list daarmee lastig gevallen? Vriendelijke groet, GerardM On Sat, 1 Oct 2022 at 14:26, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > The Signpost – Volume 18, Issue 9 – 30 September 2022 >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Decentralized fundraising, centralized distribution

2022-09-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, At the same time, Wikipedia was offered to the world in English and only now we put more effort into bringing Wikipedia to the rest of our world, in other languages. When you consider the huge bias we offer in our information about ourselves. Your arguments centre around a past that was

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

2022-05-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is the point of diversity when the agenda for everyone is insisted to be the same. What is the point of much of what we do as volunteers when it will not be considered as the basis for use by a public? Thanks, GerardM On Fri, 20 May 2022 at 12:26, WereSpielChequers wrote: >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Are you considering running for the 2022 Wikimedia Foundation board elections?

2022-05-04 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, My experience as a candidate was that the diversity sought is external. You may look different, have a different background, speak a different language, come from a different country. However, when you have an agenda, want something that is not on the agenda, you are informed that there is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Legacy maintenance

2022-04-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, How do you compare functionality that is totally broken with "another tool". Or is your tool broken as well? As to Commons, we once had a Wikidata provided search tool that allowed search in any language. It was "adopted" by general search and is now no longer functional. In essence it

[Wikimedia-l] Legacy maintenance

2022-04-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In information I read the WMF intends to spend less. However, given that there is a huge technical debt in maintenance, including software that is currently not functional. I wonder why we intend to spend less when our technical house is not in order. For just one example of technical debt

[Wikimedia-l] Re: UNLOCK free knowledge projects | Call for application

2022-04-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Wikimedia Germany produced a tool that allows people to find pictures based on the Wikidata item they are associated with (depicts)... As Wikidata uses labels in all the Wikimedia languages, it follows that when labels exist, children who seek pictures at school can find these pictures. When

[Langcom] Re: Request for comments on approval of Sassarese Wikipedia

2022-03-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, You are right. Are the most used messages fully translated? Thanks, GerardM On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 09:59, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > No, having the most used messages fully translated has been the rule. That > is not the same as core. > > lør. 26. mar. 2022, 08:53 skrev Ger

[Langcom] Re: Request for comments on approval of Sassarese Wikipedia

2022-03-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
> > > lør. 26. mar. 2022, 08:20 skrev Gerard Meijssen >: > >> Core messages, all of them, is a minimum. I am against. >> Thanks, >> GerardM >> >> On Sat, 26 Mar 2022 at 07:42, Sotiale Wiki wrote: >> >>> Dear Language committe

[Langcom] Re: Georgian Wikisource

2022-03-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For Wikisource there is little need to be cautious. It is largely a hub for activity.. Finding an audience for the work done is the challenge. Thanks, Gerard On Fri, 25 Mar 2022 at 07:06, Satdeep Gill wrote: > Yes, please. We should approve it as separate Wikisource. > > Best >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation governance and Russian finances

2022-03-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
re > appropriate transparency. > > Please avoid making bad faith accusations of using a "page out of the > playbook" of escalation when they have done no such thing. It is > manipulative and unwelcome when you know nothing about who you are > attacking. > > Lane > >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Foundation governance and Russian finances

2022-03-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, A reality check. With a Wikipedian in jail in Belarus, it is easy to grasp that Wikipedia is not the flavour of the month in either Belarus or in Russia by the "powers that be". When you compare Wikimedia projects to Facebook, the glaring difference between them is money. Our money has as a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Form 990 clarification request (for the attention of WMF accounts staff)

2022-03-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What you describe is a standard approach to what is not the real problem.The problem is in diversity. It is a stated objective and the Wikimedia Foundation does a comparatively good job.. except that it could be so much better. Another issue with concentrating on fundraising is that it is

[Wikimedia-l] What diversity is about

2022-03-03 Thread Gerard Meijssen
One of the stated objectives for the board of the Wikimedia Foundation is to have a more diverse representation, for it to be more inclusive. As an abstract it is a really worthwhile objective, once chosen as one of the more diverse board members of the Wikimedia Foundation however, it is easy to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Our World in Data (OWID)

2022-03-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi James, The biggest bottleneck to innovation is our own community process. It is also an impossibility to get Wikimedia to consider how it performs for specific groups of students. Never mind. When you want to increase the value of "Our World in Data", it helps when their identifiers are

[Wikimedia-l] Re: RfC: Stop accepting cryptocurrency donations

2022-01-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, For what it is worth, I don't mind the WMF accepting crypto.. I do mind WMF hanging on to crypto currencies. So when they get it and monetise it immediately, all well and good. The motto being: You do not look a gift horse in the mouth ... Thanks, GerardM On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at

[Langcom] Re: Serbocroatian

2022-01-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The problem will be that we open a can of worms when we go this route. Arguably there is no such language as Croatian and Serbian became separate languages.. The question would be who is its public. Thanks, Gerard On Tue, 11 Jan 2022 at 05:18, MF-Warburg wrote: > A user has asked

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Only Pallas Athena arrived fully mature in armour from the head of Zeus. We will never have a complete plan when all we do is based on the existence of budgets, it failed us miserably. The way forward is to own our infra structure including all software and decide its worth, its risc and if

[Wikimedia-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Uplifting the multimedia stack (was: Community Wishlist Survery)

2022-01-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There should be several mechanisms determining what work gets done. What Asaf describes is a budget based process. Another mechanism is centred around responsibility. The granularity of responsibility does not negate that the buck stops at a certain level. When responsibility has no

[Wikimedia-l] Wikisource gains a public

2021-12-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy to have noticed that Wikisource books will be offered by the Internet Archive in its Open Library project. Obviously, it is well deserved that Wikisource gets a bigger public. I have two questions: * to what extent is the Wikimedia Foundation aware and has been involved *

[Wikisource-l] Wikisource gains a public

2021-12-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am really happy to have noticed that Wikisource books will be offered by the Internet Archive in its Open Library project. Obviously, it is well deserved that Wikisource gets a bigger public. I have two questions: * to what extent is the Wikimedia Foundation aware and has been involved *

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Approval of Human Rights Policy

2021-12-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What Jimmy does or does not from within his own organisation has nothing to do with the Wikimedia Foundation. You know that.. Thanks, GerardM On Thu, 9 Dec 2021 at 22:20, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Given the topic of human rights, I would like to point out that we have > not had any

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Creating new Wikidata items for all Commons categories

2021-12-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As long as we can not confidently search for pictures in any language I really wonder what the point is of such an exercise. In my opinion we should prioritise measurable effects for our users. Something like: "A nine year old will find pictures in his or her language on all the subjects of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 355, Issue 1

2021-12-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
the list at >> wikimedia-l-ow...@lists.wikimedia.org >> >> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >> than "Re: Contents of Wikimedia-l digest..." >> >> Today's Topics: >> >>1. Re: Wikimedia-l Dig

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia-l Digest, Vol 348, Issue 3

2021-12-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Why is it that you consider the "community" a single body that has a remit under the law for anything? It is not and it has not. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 13 Dec 2021 at 11:40, Nosebagbear wrote: > Dear Patrick, > > Firstly, you (and in this case, I mean, "I notified members of T

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Movement Charter Drafting Committee elections are now open!

2021-10-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Dear Todd, thank you for the invite to read up on this document full of "buzzwords and fury, signifying nothing". I did just that and not find what you suggested, what I found is a determined effort to bring more equity and diversity (you can look up the words in Wiktionary or any other

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Andreas, you are entitled to an opinion. But it is your opinion. When others say things about the WMF, what it is there for, its challenges, when they build an argument you can and you do ignore it. The consequence is that it invalidates your refutations and your opinion is only that at best.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-28 Thread Gerard Meijssen
a=3876137=3875379 > [2] https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Wikilegal/Database_Rights#Conclusion > [3] > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost/2016-01-13/News_and_notes > [4] https://wikipedia20.pubpub.org/pub/fcgjp9ul/release/2 > [5] > https://diff.wikimedia.org/2021/09/23/

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Thank you for your reply. I am grateful for the insight that you offered and find that my notions have mostly aligned. They will align even more as I consider it further. There is one other aspect that you miss.. probably quite deliberately. There are those that consider that Wikipedia is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikimedia Endowment reaches initial $100 million goal and welcomes new board members

2021-09-26 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Facts are in and of themselves not copyrightable. Collections of data may be copyrighted.We choose not to and as a result Wikidata is the powerhouse that it has become.The CC-by-sa license is our license of choice for Wikipedia however, the way it has been enforced so far has been defensive,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, As you present your numbers in isolation, you can make up any argument and not address any of the points made in the original post and subsequent replies. When you mention salaries, you do not compare them to the common practices for remuneration and only when you do, can you argue that it is

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
eventing it from happening. > > Please correct me if I am wrong by pointing out how much money was spent > on the priorities you highlight. > > Vito > > Il giorno sab 25 set 2021 alle ore 09:19 Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> H

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
t; Once again this is not what the fundraising messages point out. > > This is just a quite shareable list of top priorities in your opinion. > > Vito > > Il giorno sab 25 set 2021 alle ore 09:00 Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> ha scritto: > >> H

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
y that they couldn't do with some more money than > the amount they have – but about whether you give the public and > prospective donors a more or less accurate impression of your financial > situation and your spending intentions. > > Do you think the current fund

[Wikimedia-l] Re: About raising money

2021-09-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
; portrayed by banners is not true, there's no risk of closing our projects. > > *Assumes that there is only one project* is true, but in terms of current > fundraising communication. > > Vito > > > Il giorno ven 24 set 2021 alle ore 14:50 Gerard Meijssen < > gerard.meijs..

[Wikimedia-l] About raising money

2021-09-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are some people who repeatedly argue that we raise way too much money. Given a set of assumptions an argument can be constructed to make this point. In my opinion there is little merit to the argument. We do need money to operate the Wikimedia projects and a positive outcome per year

[Langcom] Re: About raising money

2021-09-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, No.. you are right.. wrong audience Sorry, Gerard On Fri, 24 Sept 2021 at 14:31, Jon Harald Søby wrote: > Did you mean to send this to the langcom list? It doesn't seem very > langcom-specific > > fre. 24. sep. 2021, 14:08 skrev Gerard Meijssen >: > >>

[Langcom] About raising money

2021-09-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There are some people who repeatedly argue that we raise way too much money. Given a set of assumptions an argument can be constructed to make this point. In my opinion there is little merit to the argument. We do need money to operate the Wikimedia projects and a positive outcome per year

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

2021-09-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
currrent process could be an ideal chance to > gain some more knowldge and accomodate these languages in a sensible manner. > > > On 22 Sep 2021, at 15:35, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > People may bastardise a dead language and come up with anything. It does > not become

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

2021-09-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
onale in rejecting > wikiprojects written in such ancient language. > > Gerard Meijssen 於 2021年9月22日週三 下午8:25寫道: > > > > Hoi, > > Latin is outside of the remit of the language committee because its > Wikipedia already existed. The fact that some people write new poems or >

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

2021-09-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
that didn't exists when the labguage was widely used. I cannot > see how that's not acceptable for ancient languages. > > 在 2021年9月21日週二 05:46,Gerard Meijssen 寫道: > >> Hoi, >> The problem is that you insist on a deterministic approach. You seek a >> solution for s

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Encyclopedic Coverage of American Elections

2021-09-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
es with updates to Wikipedia election > articles anywhere. I have no idea how to tackle these issues but have > complete confidence in the various election-related WikiProjects so if > there’s such a project on meta maybe they have already joined forces on > this. > Jane > > Sent from

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Encyclopedic Coverage of American Elections

2021-09-21 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, What is painfully obvious is the bias that exists. For countries in Africa we do not even know all the government ministers past and present for the last 70 years let alone that we know about past elections. At that, it is fine with me that subjects like this are raised. Thanks, GerardM

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

2021-09-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
anguages in your view should omit “Ancient > Greek”; then perhaps you could agree the rest of it? > > > On 20 Sep 2021, at 10:48, Jim Killock wrote: > > Signed PGP part > Der Gerard > > On 20 Sep 2021, at 10:15, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > I

[Langcom] Re: Ancient Languages: Current Proposals and feedback

2021-09-20 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I am appalled by the continued misrepresentation of the existing language policy and the hyping of the suggested changes. - Latin is an existing Wikipedia, it is outside of the remit of the current policy and that will not change. - When a proposal is made, we have always considered

[Langcom] Re: Important: Transparency and policy gaps for Ancient Languages

2021-09-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, This committee predates the charter. Thanks, GerardM On Tue, 14 Sept 2021 at 13:42, Jim Killock wrote: > Do any of the other Committee members have an opinion about this below? > > I do not believe it the problem here to be a "process issue”. > > >1. The orginal consultation was

[Langcom] Re: Important: Transparency and policy gaps for Ancient Languages

2021-09-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Once Wikis have started, it is outside the remit of the language committee. As far as I am aware the committee does not seek authority outside of the current remit. Every now and again we are asked to look at a specific project because it is not functioning well, particularly when people find

[Langcom] Re: Important: Transparency and policy gaps for Ancient Languages

2021-09-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
tion about any prior consultation, > or whether that was not seen as necessary at that point > > The Board of course will have records, papers and minutes, (maybe public?) > so this should not be too hard to find, or to point me to where I can find > it. > > Thank you very much

[Langcom] Re: Important: Transparency and policy gaps for Ancient Languages

2021-09-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
mmittee must not simply assume that is if does not like the > current RFC it can simply leave the current policy in place. The current > policy still lacks consultatation and carries all the rough edges you would > expect. > > Thank you again for responding > > Jim >

[Langcom] Re: Important: Transparency and policy gaps for Ancient Languages

2021-09-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The point of the policy is to explicitly invalidate any and all arguments that were used before. There is no point in looking in older history, at best it shows the genesis of the policy. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 13 Sept 2021 at 00:57, Jim Killock wrote: > > > On 12 Sep 2021, at 21:09,

[Langcom] Re: Request to revist Ancient Language policy

2021-09-12 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, We have a set of rules. They are designed to prevent problems. They work. You may differ in your opinion and you are entitled to your opinion. It does not follow that you are convincing given the objectives of the rules. Thanks, GerardM On Sun, 12 Sept 2021 at 09:24, Phake Nick

[Langcom] Re: Request to revist Ancient Language policy

2021-09-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
ere brought forward? it > ould be helpful for me to reference these discussions on the current RFC > alongside any information about the reasons they were rejected. > > On 8 Sep 2021, at 06:45, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > Hoi, > The arguments inherent in the policy ar

[Langcom] Re: Request to revist Ancient Language policy

2021-09-07 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The arguments inherent in the policy are not affected by the "fear mongering" by some. At the same time in the later suggestions there is nothing new. >From my perspective there is no reason to revisit the criteria for a new Wikipedia. Thanks, GerardM On Wed, 8 Sept 2021 at 02:00,

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Please use Google when you do not know who you are talking to. Thanks, GerardM On Fri, 27 Aug 2021 at 19:09, wrote: > >Mike is not an employee nor a spokesperson for the > Wikimedia Foundation. > > Oh, thanks. > > I don't know who he is. His manner led me to believe he represented

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Get your facts straight. Mike is not an employee nor a spokesperson for the Wikimedia Foundation. Andreas has a set of hobby horses. That is fine but it does not follow that we have to be grateful for them. Yes, there are plenty of issues with all of our projects and at that, English sets a

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-22 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, There were Wikipedias closed in the past before the recent issue at the Croation Wikipedia because of content, language. It is not only recent, it is more pronounced but not a shift Thanks, GerardM On Sun, 22 Aug 2021 at 19:00, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Well, that was the difference I

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given that I reply to your statement.. it should be obvious. Thanks, GerardM On Wed, 18 Aug 2021 at 13:12, Peter Southwood wrote: > Gerard, > > With whom do you beg to differ? > > P > > > > *From:* Gerard Meijssen [mailto:gerard.meijs...@gmail.com] >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikipedia issues in UNDARK.org #Opinion article to check...

2021-08-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I beg to differ. If anything the WMF needs to focus us more on the imbalance that exists between the fundamental bias toward English versus all other languages. For me the easiest picking is to share in the sum of the knowledge that is available to us. To get there simple goals like "a nine

[Langcom] Re: Wikipedia Levantine Arabic

2021-08-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, When the language policy was defined, we accepted any and all living ISO-639-3 languages. It follows that many languages in the Arabic language family are eligible. What it takes for a Wikipedia to be realised is a community who create a resource for their language. At the end, when it is to

[Langcom] Re: Wikipedia Levantine Arabic

2021-08-01 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, it is a recognised language. With enough people supporting a new project, there is no reason not to have it. Thanks, GerardM On Sun, 1 Aug 2021 at 14:39, Sotiale Wiki wrote: > * related: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikipedia_Levantine_Arabic > > It

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-19 Thread Gerard Meijssen
es irrespective of > multilingualism issues, but we have notably improved over time. > > best, > > Dariusz Jemielniak, "pundit" > > On Mon, Jul 19, 2021 at 6:33 AM Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > >> Hoi, >> The notion that search works because "there is so

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-18 Thread Gerard Meijssen
n.com/in/ircpresident> < > http://instragram.com/ircpresident> > > > > Key: 0x5D13669E Fingerprints: 7838 7FE7 E0E4 BF88 0024 2703 B452 E75A > > 5D13 669E > > > > Amplifying Global Voices stories by the translation into dozens of > > languages with the help of

[Wikimedia-l] Making Wikicite a success by putting the Wikipedia editor first

2021-07-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, After a five year run, the Wikicite project has come to an end, it is a success. To secure the accomplishments of the last five years, it is vitally important to find a public for what comes next. The suggestion from the Wikicite people is to support all Wikipedias [1]. This is a great

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
gt; A board that starts dictating how projects must function, is probably > a board that volunteers would never elect, if they have a choice. > > Thanks, > Fae > > On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 15:26, Gerard Meijssen > wrote: > > > > Hoi, > > You make your point and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-16 Thread Gerard Meijssen
do not truly value the data that we have. Thanks, GerardM [1] https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Special:MediaSearch?type=image=beaver [2] https://hay.toolforge.org/sdsearch/#q=haswbstatement:P180=Q181191 On Fri, 16 Jul 2021 at 13:42, Fæ wrote: > On Tue, 6 Jul 2021 at 17:32, Gerard Meijsse

[Wikidata] Re: Upcoming Search Platform Office Hours—July 14th, 2021

2021-07-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I could not join.. I worked until 17:30 European time. There was not enough staff.. Thanks, Gerard On Wed, 7 Jul 2021 at 21:49, Trey Jones wrote: > The Search Platform Team > usually holds > office hours the first Wednesday

[Wikipedia-l] Re: Norse?

2021-07-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The existing policy of the Language Committee does not allow for extinct languages. Sorry but no. Thanks, GerardM On Wed, 14 Jul 2021 at 16:07, Kräfta wrote: > I am wondering about the creation of an Old Norse wikipedia page? > ___ >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-14 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, In an ideal world, it is indeed the content of the Wikimedia projects that our public sees. Each project represents a set of editors who contribute to a project. In general, all well meaning contributors are welcome. Some contributors contribute regularly, take pride in it and associate

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-10 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The purpose of a Wikipedia is to provide encyclopaedic knowledge to a public. The purpose of the Wikimedia projects is to share in the sum of all knowledge. What the Wikimedia organisation supports is the infrastructure for our public to share in the sum of all the knowledge available to us

[Languages] Re: [European Language Equality Project] Invitation to participate in consultation

2021-07-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Next week there will be an "office hour" about search. Please get in touch with them because there is functionality that enables, in literally every language supported by the Wikimedia Foundation, a search functionality for Wikimedia Commons. In the past I described user stories. The latest

[Wikidata] Re: Upcoming Search Platform Office Hours—July 14th, 2021

2021-07-08 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have a few questions for you that I send to you well in advance. In a previous exchange of emails I informed someone in your staff that search functionality that works well for over 50% of our public had regressed in functionality; it used to work it no longer does. The Special:MediaSearch

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Foundation org chart

2021-07-06 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi. One reason why I am a candidate for the board of the WMF is that in my opinion one function is lacking. There is no reflection of the fact that all that we do is to share the sum of all knowledge. It is not only about the creation of content but also about sharing the sum all the knowledge

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Concerns about BoT Election Q

2021-07-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Fae a few points..First board members are volunteers like you and all the things that are asked of a candidate represents a significant amount of time. In addition there are timelines and the notion of a process to improve questions is not really feasible. Also I said it before, many of the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Concerns about BoT Election Q

2021-07-05 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, some reflections: You have to appreciate that fulfilling the role of a board member of the Wikimedia Foundations is very time consuming. The candidates that may be chosen from are all volunteers, they have a day job. The argument for having only eleven questions as given to us candidates

[Langcom] Re: Langcom Digest, Vol 92, Issue 8

2021-07-02 Thread Gerard Meijssen
gt; > *Päivämäärä: *torstaina, 1. heinäkuuta 2021 klo 15.01 > *Vastaanottaja: *langcom@lists.wikimedia.org lang...@lists.wikimedia.orge > *Aihe: *Langcom Digest, Vol 92, Issue 8 > >1. Some housekeeping (Kimberli Mäkäräinen) >2. Re: Some housekeeping (Gerard Meijssen) > >

[Langcom] Re: Some housekeeping

2021-06-30 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I take it that you mean that they are not eligible. For me that means that we will not approve at a later date. The proposals in your mail.. OK Thanks, GerardM On Thu, 1 Jul 2021 at 04:32, Kimberli Mäkäräinen < kimberli.makarai...@tuni.fi> wrote: > Hei! Sorry for the long mail. > >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming María Sefidari as a Foundation consultant. :)

2021-06-27 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, First, I am a candidate for the board of the Wikimedia Foundation. I have taken time to see what people say, not react immediately. For María to become a consultant, I am of two minds. She is probably best placed to support the implementation of the strategy as defined. With both the

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Appropriate promotion OR Appropriate canvassing protocol/policy

2021-06-25 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Why is a guideline on English Wikipedia the right place for a policy that is of a global relevance? Thanks, GerardM On Fri, 25 Jun 2021 at 09:05, টিটো দত্ত Tito Dutta wrote: > Hello, > This is something I have been thinking about for some time. This June–July > we will see a couple of

[Langcom] Re: Requesting approval for Javanese Wikisource

2021-06-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The font exists when users know the font exists and are able to find it in MediaWiki. Thanks, Gerard On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 at 20:08, MF-Warburg wrote: > Yes, that's why by "resolved" I obviously mean they seem to exist now. > > Am Do., 17. Juni 2021 um 19:53

[Langcom] Re: Requesting approval for Javanese Wikisource

2021-06-17 Thread Gerard Meijssen
When people ask for the development of UNICODE definitions and associated fonts, there is no such thing as "resolved" when there is a need for them. Thanks, GerardM On Thu, 17 Jun 2021 at 19:18, MF-Warburg wrote: > > > Am Di., 15. Juni 2021 um 19:37 Uhr schrieb Nicolas VIGNERON < >

[Langcom] Re: Requesting approval for Javanese Wikisource

2021-06-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Why not ask for funding improving the font? It is not the first time money for UNICODE development was paid for by the WMF. Thanks, GerardM On Tue, 15 Jun 2021 at 19:37, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > Hi y'all, > > Sure, done: I made a comment on >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Why I am a candidate for the WMF board

2021-06-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
13 Jun 2021 at 11:41, Željko Blaće wrote: > On 6/13/21, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > > > https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2021/06/board-member-of-wikimedia-foundation.html > > Good for you Gerard. However it would be better if your inputs would > not consistently direct away fr

[Wikimedia-l] Why I am a candidate for the WMF board

2021-06-13 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I have put myself forward as a candidate for the board of the Wikimedia Foundation. What I hope to achieve is that as a global community, as a movement, foundation, we will share more of "the sum of the knowledge that is available to us". In my opinion this fits in perfectly with our

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Flourishing of the Endowment

2021-05-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I respectfully totally disagree. My response you find on my blog.. Thanks, GerardM https://ultimategerardm.blogspot.com/2021/05/wikimedia-needs-your-support-because.html On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 16:49, Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Hi again, Julia and Pats, > > I've written an article for

[Langcom] Re: Requesting Approval for Balinese Wikisource

2021-05-24 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, Given enough interest, I do not mind a Wikisource early and quickly. As it is, Wikisource has as its prime beneficiaries its editors. Thanks, GerardM On Mon, 24 May 2021 at 06:45, Satdeep Gill wrote: > Hi all, > > I believe Balinese Wikisource should be moved to a separate domain

[Langcom] Re: Wikipedia Emoji

2021-05-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, The sooner we indicate that this is a "no-hoper", the better. Thanks, GerardM On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 06:45, Sotiale Wiki wrote: > I think this proposal should be rejected. Their test project page has been > deleted from the incubator. > >

[Langcom] Re: Approval of Dagbani Wikipedia

2021-05-15 Thread Gerard Meijssen
Hoi, I concur. Thanks, GerardM On Sat, 15 May 2021 at 05:56, Sotiale Wiki wrote: > I have been watching the activities of Wp/dag, and I think it is steady > and stable. I believe that if there are no other issues, there will be no > issues with approval. > > Sotiale > > 본 이메일은 Avast로 보호되는

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