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In which case: if we're not supporting N-1, then what's the reason to not do a
rolling release?
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I'd prefer year/month/day, simply because it's fairly difficult for users to
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Can you share your unit file?
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-1 on dropping Life Support for N-1 unless we're ready to shift to rolling
releases. That's pretty much the worst of all possible worlds.
Proposed policy: Life Support+
From the date N is released:
* We continue offering OSTree
tarray.
You have to admit that it seems really strange in the eyes of a new user
that ISN is packaged with PostgreSQL, whereas better-written and more
popular extensions (like plv8, pg_partman or pgq) are not.
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Roshi: more work is needed, particularly on the Use Case text, which is fairly
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On 02/14/2017 06:33 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
>
> On 02/13/2017 10:42 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> On 02/13/2017 07:32 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>> We are going to try to release our next 2WA release this week.
>>> Feel free to test out today's build and see if there a
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>
>
> On 02/13/2017 10:42 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> On 02/13/2017 07:32 AM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>>> We are going to try to release our next 2WA release this week.
>>> Feel free to test out today's build and see if there a
his may be pilot error,
see KS file.
Installation is on minnowboard from USB key, using the attached
kickstart file.
Error message is:
Failed to pull from repository: g-io-error-quark: No such Metadata
object: {long hex key}
Interactive install succeeded.
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> I am looking for sponsor/reviewers if anyone is interested. I also hope
> to be more active in the fedora community in the future. Thank you!
Wow, thank you for building these!
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> I am looking for sponsor/reviewers if anyone is interested. I also hope
> to be more active in the fedora community in the future. Thank you!
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>> but I'm not sure if that is necessary. I think as long as we have a
>> separation of ownership (mainly different issue trackers) then that
>> should take care of some of the issues.
>
> +1
Yah, given that we also have atomic-de...@projectatomic.io, we do NOT
need more
ince the final pgAdmin 3 release.
How long would you suggest is appropriate? Postgres 11? 12? Let's set
a target date; that way we can communicate it more than once.
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> If the membership thinks this draft is reasonable and is willing to
> support it, I'd love to send it off to our lawyers for any wording
> tweaks from them and then vote on the output of that.
+1, let's do this.
xtensions (also CUBE, earthdistance, etc.). However, one of the
steps in that would be getting the mainstream platforms to package them
so that users have a reasonable upgrade path, so I would not propose
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>> anyone who wants it can maintain a copy elsewhere). Starting a new
>> thread to make sure we collect all the relevant votes, but I really,
>> really think it's past time for this to go away. The last actual
>> change to tsearch2 which wasn't part of a wider cleanup was
>> 3ca7eddbb7c48
pg_shadow/pg_user.
I think Postgres 10 is the right time to break that code (I mean, we
have to do it someday, and we're already telling people about breakage
in 10), but be aware that there will be shouting and carrying on.
-1 on a warning. Very little code today which references the deprecated
co
On 02/09/2017 12:53 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
> * Josh Berkus (j...@berkus.org) wrote:
>> On 02/09/2017 12:42 PM, Stephen Frost wrote:
>>> * Josh Berkus (j...@berkus.org) wrote:
>>>> On 02/09/2017 11:08 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>>>> Agreed, let's just g
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> * Josh Berkus (j...@berkus.org) wrote:
>> On 02/09/2017 11:08 AM, Tom Lane wrote:
>>> Agreed, let's just get it done.
>>>
>>> Although this doesn't really settle whether we ought to do 3a (with
>>> bac
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> On Wed, 2017-02-08 at 14:10 -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> Really, our best hope is that NextCloud cleans up the Owncloud
>> architecture to make it supportable.
>
> This seems entirely likely, but it seems very unlikely t
7 as well.
>
> Given both the complexity of the environment (requiring unsupported PHP
> versions) and the unrest caused by the owncloud/nextcloud fork, is this
> really something that should be pushed through at this time?
See my comment on the ti
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> I am asking to see who is willing and / or able to partake in Bitcamp
> 2017 [0] April 7-9, 2017.
So, ... where is Bitcamp? City? Country?
I ask because the event website doesn't tell me either.
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Folks:
Just in case you upgraded to one of the Fedora Atomic trees with the bad
kernel, I wanted to let folks know that upgrade in place to the latest ostree
will fix DNS on a running Kube cluster, based on my testing. So you don't need
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Maybe we should name the executable something other than "docker_storage_setup"
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BTW, if you know you won't want to migrate back, I recommend having a single
partition with overlayFS (that is, DOCKER_ROOT_VOLUME=no). That way you don't
have to guess at allocations at all.
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The unallocated space is because we can't predict if the user will need more
space for containers, or more for other things (a Gluster storage partition,
for example). This means that, in the default case, the user can easily expand
.
If you want to go to KubeCon, contribute to an Atomic project (whether
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pod in the Red Hat booth, please let me know ASAP so I can get you one.
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> You can give this image a shot by pulling "dustymabe/fedora-min".
> You need to run 'microdnf install' instead of 'dnf install'.
I thought someone else had already built a ~~ 70MB image?
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> On 01/20/2017 08:19 PM, Dusty Mabe wrote:
>
>> This sounds like dns on your node is broken, which is different than
>> the issue we were seeing before (which was a connection issue between
>> containers running on the same n
it has good information in it?
Yah, it's the same as the resolv.conf for the ansible node, where DNS is
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@dustymabe I tested this on one of the minnowboards, and it installed and
booted fine.
Note that, instead of allocating specific bytes for /boot, you can use this KS
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reqpart --add-boot
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Presumably we can do this by changing the default cloud-init?
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The way it is now:
Currently, the rootFS is sized at 3GB, fixed, and the Docker partition is 40%
of the remaining space. This causes new users to run out of disk space if they
do layering, ostree unlock,
, but then Atlanta isn't *that* far from NC ...
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Magnum Devs:
Is there going to be a magnum team meeting around OpenStack Summit in
Boston?
I'm the community manager for Atomic Host, so if you're going to have
Magnum meetings, I'd like to send you some Atomic engineers to field any
questions/issues at the Summit.
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I'm trying to create a canonical container image for pgAdmin4 Server.
However, using Apache is kind of heavyweight for a container. Has
anyone run pgAdmin4 against something lighter weight?
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It's been a long, fun ride, and I'm proud of the PostgreSQL we have
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Once we have containerized kubernetes working, we need an automated or manual
test which creates a 3+ node cluster, installs kubernetes, and launches one or
more applications on it.
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core Postgres, being able to
write extensions in languages other than C (like, full-featured
extensions) would be its own benefit.
Why not start there? That is, assuming that Joel has gobs of time to
work on this? For that matter, I know that Jeff Davis is quite fond of
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On 01/10/2017 10:52 AM, Matthew Miller wrote:
> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:44:03AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>> On Tue, Jan 10, 2017 at 10:33:05AM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>>> USAGE: single command line giving usage example
>>>>>
*Bump*
Sans feedback, I'm going to assume that everyone approves of this pretty
soon ...
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> Folks,
>
> Looking at the new FDLIBS, I'm noticing that there's not a narrative
> description of the image required or provided anywhere tha
getting this done by F26 just because of the outstanding
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We will need to figure out, and then fully document, a migration process for
users of the old built-in Kubernetes binaries to upgrade to F26 with
containerized binaries.
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Once we have working, containerized Kubernetes install process, we'll need to
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In order to remove Kubernetes from the AH base image and have a full
containerized Kube install, we need to have "official" kubernetes containers
produced by the Fedora project. They need to be
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This is one of several issues which need to be overcome in order to remove
Kubernetes from the base Atomic Host image.
This issue is a tracking issue for the various technical problems and bugs
which
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Dusty:
Right, and that question comes down to "how much do we care about revertability
VS. user experience". It's not an easy question to answer. In the long run,
DOCKER_ROOT_VOLUME=no as default is the obvious answer. But for
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@dwalsh aha. The current docks emphasize export/import, so I thought it was
required.
Lemme test that, but if it works that's a powerful argument for maintaining
dual partitions for backwards compatibility. If we're doing that,
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Also, using partitioning to limit Docker's space consumption only makes sense
if we can somehow automagically "right-size" the two partitions. In our
current code, it doesn't matter how much space docker eats up, because we've
only
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@dwalsh see comments above about why those tools won't actually work in
practice. If we can work around those, then that changes things. But right
now what I'm hearing is "you can switch back, but only if you have unallocated
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So, to summarize:
1. The main reason given for keeping "two partitions" by default with
docker-storage-setup is so that users can easily switch back to devicemapper if
there are critical issues with OverlayFS.
2. However, there is
On 01/06/2017 10:11 AM, Jeremy Eder wrote:
> It would be good to confirm ... if you still have the devicemapper
> setup, run docker info
I do my testing on ephemeral AWS instances, so that one is long gone.
I'll do a performance test later when I have time to blog about it.
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OK, so regarding (2), a follow-up question:
Is there any mechanism by which I can take a running system configured for
overlay (with two partitons) and convert it to devicemapper without:
a) needing to re-partition?
b) needing to
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> On Fri, Jan 06, 2017 at 01:38:09PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
>> On 01/06/2017 11:24 AM, Vivek Goyal wrote:
>>> On Thu, Jan 05, 2017 at 04:16:45PM -0800, Josh Berkus wrote:
>>>> So, I've done some testing, thanks to Dusty's
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So, there's two questions here:
Aha, thanks. Seems like DOCKER_ROOT_VOLUME should default to "on" then if
we're going to do partitioning. That leaves us with two questions:
1) What do we feel is the best default settup for an
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So I just did a test of using OverlayFS on Fedora Atomic 25 as a cloud-init
option. This resulted in having the whole disk as one volume, shared with the
overlay, instead of multiple partitions. That's the desireable default setup,
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> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017 at 7:22 PM, Josh Berkus <jber...@redhat.com
> <mailto:jber...@redhat.com>>wrote:
>
> Also, performance is MUCH better on PostgreSQL pgbench than devicemapper
> is. Like 3X better.
>
>
On 01/05/2017 05:39 PM, Colin Walters wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 5, 2017, at 07:22 PM, Josh Berkus wrote:
>
>> Also, performance is MUCH better on PostgreSQL pgbench than devicemapper
>> is. Like 3X better.
>
> You really should not store databases (or any persistent data)
>
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> So, I've done some testing, thanks to Dusty's setup.
>
> I wasn't able to test on Kubernetes because of some setup issues.
> However, I hammered away at Docker using some IO-intensive applications,
> including PostgreSQL and Etcd, both
haven't seen any unexpected IO errors from containers running
under overlayfs.
And having all of storage be one big volume is really nice; it
eliminates a longstanding issue we've had with disk allocation; the
whole disk is simply available.
So +1 on moving to overlayfs for F26.
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On 01/04/2017 02:22 PM, isdtor wrote:
> What is the status of this project? I see 23 open bugs that look like they
> were never updated, going back as far as 2004.
It's long-dead. I'm surprised the mailing list still works.
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> touched a lot of things over the years, but most recently I've mostly been
> involved in plumbing (systemd, networking, udisks and the like) and Ubuntu's
> CI.
Hey, Martin!
Glad to see that even though both of us have changed projects, I'll
still see yo
c/ . On this page i can't find
> information about other images than Atomic.
>
> Are Fedora Server cloud images dead and only Atomic will exist?
This is an issue with some dropped links between getfedora.org and
alt.fedoraproject.org. You can track the issue here:
https://pagure.io/
ry_target_type and recovery_target_value
> into a single parameter could make sense, never mind the other three.
> But I don't really want to argue about it any more.
>
Either solution works for me.
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hard enough; if I (or anyone else) has to argue about whether or not
they're too long, I'm just going to drop the patch and walk away.
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@mattdm I was trying to use kolinar for this, but it won't let me log in; the
OpenID login gets a 404 error. Is there some way I can get access to this tool?
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".
> I don't see any problem with that, particularly if someone other than
> Bruce or me is volunteering to write it ;-)
I'm up for writing it (with help from feature owners), provided that I
don't have to spend time arguing that it's not too long, or that I
should put it somewhere differ
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> here and say that we all collectively know that what Joshua reported is by no
> means an isolated incident but a pattern that has been festering. Plus, we
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> Yes, that is the usual approach.
>
So where in the docs should these go, then? We don't (currently) have a
place for this kind of doc. Appendices?
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e should try that out.
>
> DM would still be supported via configuration of docker-storage-setup,
> just like overlay is supported today in the same way.
I'd the impression from the Docker hackers that overlayfs was their
future platform.
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>
> DM would still be supported via configuration of docker-storage-setup,
> just like overlay is supported today in the same way.
I'd the impression from the Docker hackers that overlayfs was their
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On 12/08/2016 04:16 PM, Tom Lane wrote:
> Josh Berkus <j...@agliodbs.com> writes:
>> On 12/01/2016 05:58 PM, Magnus Hagander wrote:
>>> And in fairness, having such a "guide to changes" chapter in each
>>> release probably *would* be a good id
resources to
> make that. The release notes are good, but having a more hand-holding
> version explaining incompatible changes in "regular sentences" would
> probably be quite useful to users.
We will have enough major changes in 10.0 to warrant writing one of
these. Maybe not
Vasiliy,
You can follow the UEFI bug here:
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Report from the field:
```
Last night, I'm try to install Fedora 25 atomic host on UEFI notebook.
But all the time installation finished with error fail to install bootloader.
As I see after this message /mnt/sysimage have no grub
am sure
> that a new version will be sent for the next CF.
>
Please let's make sure this gets done for 10. We're planning on
breaking a lot of config things in 10, so it would be MUCH easier on
users if we do the recovery.conf changes in that version as well.
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xt4
> lvmvol - / all size ext4
> 2) part1 - fstype EFI, size 500 /boot
> part2 - lvmpv
> lvmvol - / all size ext4
>
> Whats wrong? Thanks for any help.
Thanks for confirming this. I was having the same issues, and hadn't
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Oh? Because the Princeton mirror didn't have the 11/21 ISO either.
Maybe that's a bad mirror?
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Hmmm. Didn't have issues with 24. Let me retest now that 12/7 is available.
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Well, we shouldn't remove the prior ISO until the new one is populated. We had
at least 24 hours with no ISO.
Also, updating getfedora.org should hinge on the mirrors being populated,
somehow. Do the other WGs have this issue?
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Aside from the problem with installing, this raises the question of whether
anyone other than me is testing ISOs on bare metal at all. Queued for meeting
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I'm currently testing the November 21 ISOs by installing on my minnowboard
cluster. It seems to be the case that these ISOs are not bootable; after
getting through most of the install, they give the
The issue: `ISO file is missing` of project: `atomic-wg` has been assigned to
`dustymabe` by jberkus.
https://pagure.io/atomic-wg/issue/184
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jberkus reported a new issue against the project: `atomic-wg` that you are
following:
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Try to download the ISO at this location, as supplied by GetFedora.org:
On 12/07/2016 10:27 AM, Josh berkus wrote:
> On 12/07/2016 09:23 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
>> As Tux Paint is a completely offline program, with no network
>> capabilities at this time -- at least in the Desktop version
>> (other Tux Paint devs, remind me: what do the Android a
On 12/07/2016 09:23 AM, Bill Kendrick wrote:
> As Tux Paint is a completely offline program, with no network
> capabilities at this time -- at least in the Desktop version
> (other Tux Paint devs, remind me: what do the Android and iOS
> versions do, if anything, online?) -- and as the
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