Re: Future of /usr/bin/which in Debian?

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 09:00:52AM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 11:02:49AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: It seems to install to /usr/bin/which.gnu, implying that you could upload /usr/bin/which.bsd if you so desire; what's the issue? I think we should have just one

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 06:37:41PM +0100, Tim Woodall wrote: A ransomware attack that exploits a zero day ssh vulnerability for example wouldn't be a complete disaster - this is only home usage - but it seems fairly trivial to create a 'worm' usb device using a pi. I haven't tested yet but with

Re: write only storage.

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
Well, chattr -i turns that off On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 04:29:07PM +, Toni Mas Soler wrote: I use to backup my iPhone's photo library using a stfp connection (all in the same directory in my PC). Thus, I can chattr +i the only directory needed and nobody can remove. I cannot understand

Bug#994832: numactl: fails to install with manpages-dev 5.10-1

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
Package: numactl Version: 2.0.12-1+b1 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 7.6.1 Unpacking numactl (2.0.14-1) over (2.0.12-1+b1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/numactl_2.0.14-1_amd64.deb (--u npack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man2/move_pages.2.gz', which

Bug#994832: numactl: fails to install with manpages-dev 5.10-1

2021-09-21 Thread Michael Stone
Package: numactl Version: 2.0.12-1+b1 Severity: serious Justification: Policy 7.6.1 Unpacking numactl (2.0.14-1) over (2.0.12-1+b1) ... dpkg: error processing archive /var/cache/apt/archives/numactl_2.0.14-1_amd64.deb (--u npack): trying to overwrite '/usr/share/man/man2/move_pages.2.gz', which

Re: Future of /usr/bin/which in Debian?

2021-09-20 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Sep 20, 2021 at 02:38:06PM +0100, Jonathan Dowland wrote: On Fri, Aug 20, 2021 at 11:03:50AM +0800, YunQiang Su wrote: For such a simple tool, do we really need such many versions? At least you've asked the question. I'd love to think that there was a proper evaluation of BSD which

Re: Epoch bump request for ksh

2021-09-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 10:04:08PM +0530, Anuradha Weeraman wrote: > 2) If you do go ahead with switching to the community distribution, then > "93u+m" is part of the name, not the version number, so I'd suggest: [...] Correction: rushed the last email, I meant to say that I agree that 93u+m

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 08:02:42PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 11:08:38AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 04:33:42PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: > On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 08:53:21AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > The only thing I

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 04:33:42PM +0200, David Kalnischkies wrote: On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 08:53:21AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: The only thing I could see that would be a net gain would be to generalizes sources.list more. Instead of having a user select a specific protocol and path, allow

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 09:33:56AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: Laptops of end-user systems are the target, but also developers. When people gather at a place (conference, hackspace, private meetup, etc.) downloading of .debs should just work quickly by default. Many such sites could easily

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 09:33:56AM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: Laptops of end-user systems are the target, but also developers. When people gather at a place (conference, hackspace, private meetup, etc.) downloading of .debs should just work quickly by default. Many such sites could easily

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-10 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Sep 10, 2021 at 12:00:57PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: * Michael Stone [2021-09-08 19:25]: I think the issue isn't certificate validation, it's that https proxy requests are made via CONNECT rather than GET. You could theoretically rewrite the proxy mechanism to MITM the CONNECT

Re: How to format with stride/stripe_width options during install

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 11:07:06PM -0700, Robert Arkiletian wrote: Installing Debian 11 with netinst CD on a server with hardware raid. Installer has no custom format parameters option for ext4, like stride and stripe_width. How does one format the raid partitions with these options during OS

Re: Add support for cksum --algorithm [sm3]

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 01:20:56PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: On 09/09/2021 00:39, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 04:45:23PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: This patch set refactors all digest implementations to their own modules, all interfaced through digest.c. All file operations

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 02:54:21PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: * Michael Stone [2021-09-09 08:32]: I'm honestly not sure who the target audience for auto-apt-proxy is--apparently someone who has an infrastructure including a proxy, possibly the ability to set dns records, etc., but can't

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 02:54:21PM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: * Michael Stone [2021-09-09 08:32]: I'm honestly not sure who the target audience for auto-apt-proxy is--apparently someone who has an infrastructure including a proxy, possibly the ability to set dns records, etc., but can't

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 11:54:44AM +0530, Pirate Praveen wrote: Why can't auto-apt-proxy ask this as a debconf question? I also like auto-apt-proxy but I agree with this, someone needing auto-apt-proxy should be able to change the default as well. I don't really see why adding another

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 08:36:28AM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: * Michael Stone [2021-09-08 19:12]: Why not simply automate setting it at install time using preseed? I'm honestly not sure who the target audience for auto-apt-proxy is--apparently someone who has an infrastructure including

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-09 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Sep 09, 2021 at 08:36:28AM +0200, Timo Röhling wrote: * Michael Stone [2021-09-08 19:12]: Why not simply automate setting it at install time using preseed? I'm honestly not sure who the target audience for auto-apt-proxy is--apparently someone who has an infrastructure including

Re: Add support for cksum --algorithm [sm3]

2021-09-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Sep 07, 2021 at 04:45:23PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: This patch set refactors all digest implementations to their own modules, all interfaced through digest.c. All file operations and diagnostics are done in digest.c. All digests are made available through `cksum -a`. Also we add

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 03:56:14PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: On Wed, 2021-09-08 at 15:41 +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 02:01:03PM +0200, Ansgar wrote: > So what do you suggest then? Tech-ctte as with merged-/usr? Or a > GR? Or > something else? I propose that the proponents

Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:09:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: Enabling https by default quite simply breaks the simple recipe of installing auto-apt-proxy. Would you agree with auto-apt-proxy's postinst automatically editing your sources.list to drop the s out of https? The answer repeatedly

Re: Bug#992692: general: Use https for {deb,security}.debian.org by default

2021-09-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Sep 08, 2021 at 01:09:13PM +0200, Helmut Grohne wrote: Enabling https by default quite simply breaks the simple recipe of installing auto-apt-proxy. Would you agree with auto-apt-proxy's postinst automatically editing your sources.list to drop the s out of https? The answer repeatedly

Re: ifupdown lost at upgrade time to bullseye

2021-08-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Aug 30, 2021 at 03:56:09PM -0400, Dan Ritter wrote: Harald Dunkel wrote: how comes ifupdown is dropped at upgrade time to bullseye, leaving the (headless) system without network connection while the upgrade is not completed yet, and breaking network on the next reboot? This has not

Bug#992399: debianutils: removes interface from essential package without proper transition

2021-08-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:25:22PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:22:53AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: apologies, box I checked was buster and not bullseye No problem, it seems evident that it did little good anyway. well, the note is for users, most of whom aren't

Bug#992399: debianutils: removes interface from essential package without proper transition

2021-08-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:25:22PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 11:22:53AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: apologies, box I checked was buster and not bullseye No problem, it seems evident that it did little good anyway. well, the note is for users, most of whom aren't

Bug#992399: debianutils: removes interface from essential package without proper transition

2021-08-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:06:07PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:53:45AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Adding a message to stderr telling people to use mktemp may be a reasonable step. You mean the thing it does in our stable release? apologies, box I checked was buster

Bug#992399: debianutils: removes interface from essential package without proper transition

2021-08-18 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 03:06:07PM +, Clint Adams wrote: On Wed, Aug 18, 2021 at 10:53:45AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: Adding a message to stderr telling people to use mktemp may be a reasonable step. You mean the thing it does in our stable release? apologies, box I checked was buster

Bug#992399: debianutils: removes interface from essential package without proper transition

2021-08-18 Thread Michael Stone
Adding a message to stderr telling people to use mktemp may be a reasonable step.

Bug#992399: debianutils: removes interface from essential package without proper transition

2021-08-18 Thread Michael Stone
Adding a message to stderr telling people to use mktemp may be a reasonable step.

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 13, 2021 at 10:22:17AM +, Andrew M.A. Cater wrote: Take the opportunity to at least upgrade to Debian 9 and, ideally, 10. Debian 11 should be here inside a month - if you can get to 10, you'll have at least a further year of security support for 10. Worth noting that skipping

Re: APT Sources.list Line Format for Security Updates

2021-07-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 12, 2021 at 04:32:52PM -0400, Greg Wooledge wrote: Try both and see which one works. If the wiki is wrong, edit the wiki so that it's correct. (Then hope some jerk doesn't revert your changes.) There's only one person acting like a jerk here.

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 10:18:44PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:11:21PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: [...] It's entirely too common for obsolete encryption options that are kept for "compatibility" end up being a vector for compromise, and entirely

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 03:20:43PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: If they have buffer overflow-style holes, those should be fixed. Other than that I can't see how they can be less secure than the "none" cipher. I guess since the "none" cipher isn't supported in debian's ssh Good point. you

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 02:16:53PM -0400, Roberto C. Sánchez wrote: Of course, the real answer is to not purchase products with "secure" management that can't be upgraded when it becomes "insecure" management. Sadly, this is not always possible. There are times where someone else decides what

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 08:05:11PM +0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:43:07PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:02:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: >>>I think the first reaction should be to report it as a bug, so that the >>>old

Re: Suggested way to ssh into obsolete devices (with old ssh crypto)?

2021-07-06 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jul 06, 2021 at 01:02:49PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: I think the first reaction should be to report it as a bug, so that the old cipher is re-added. I think the same argument in favor of including the "none" cipher should apply to including old deprecated ciphers. The old ciphers

Re: Memory allocation failed during fsck of large EXT4 filesystem

2021-07-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 02:21:05PM -0700, Thomas D. Dean wrote: On 7/5/21 1:54 PM, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 12:53:39PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: 7TB seems like too much for one partition imho. Consider splitting it into the parts That's silly. It's 2021; 7TB isn't particularly

Re: Memory allocation failed during fsck of large EXT4 filesystem

2021-07-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jul 05, 2021 at 12:53:39PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: 7TB seems like too much for one partition imho. Consider splitting it into the parts That's silly. It's 2021; 7TB isn't particularly large and there's no value in breaking things into multiple partitions for no reason.

Re: why pdf file at archive.org is so slow to open

2021-07-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jul 04, 2021 at 05:03:26PM +0800, loushanguan2...@sina.com wrote: i've found many books at archive.org in pdf format but reading them in acrobat for linux is painful, it's slow it's fast in acrobat for android and i think it's fast in Windows adobe has stopped upgrade for linux i've

Re: Creation of empty files [was: Useful use of dd]

2021-07-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jul 03, 2021 at 02:34:56PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: On 7/3/21 6:44 AM, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 02:30:50PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: 2021-07-02 14:24:30 dpchrist@dipsy ~/sandbox/dd $ du --bytes truncate-sparse 5242880    truncate-sparse I expected

Re: Creation of empty files [was: Useful use of dd]

2021-07-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 02:30:50PM -0700, David Christensen wrote: 2021-07-02 14:24:30 dpchrist@dipsy ~/sandbox/dd $ du --bytes truncate-sparse 5242880 truncate-sparse I expected sparse files, but du(1) does not indicate such (?). You used --bytes, which per the man page implies

Re: Whole Disk Encryption + SSD

2021-07-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 10:02:18AM -0500, David Wright wrote: But what happens with an SSD? If, after the rm step above, you # fstrim /home the mountpoint, where /etc/fstab has the line /dev/mapper/luks-fedcba98-7654-3210-… LABEL1 ext4 /home then what gets zeroed If everything's appropriately

Re: Useful use of dd

2021-07-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jul 02, 2021 at 01:26:23PM +0300, Teemu Likonen wrote: * 2021-07-02 09:49:23+0200, to...@tuxteam.de wrote:

Re: Bullseye (mostly) not booting on Proliant DL380 G7

2021-06-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jun 29, 2021 at 11:08:09AM +0200, Claudio Kuenzler wrote: This line catches my attention: [   62.953082] systemd[1]: modprobe@drm.service: Succeeded. This is missing (doesn't show) when the freeze happens. I tend to suspect it's unrelated, but if you add "nomodeset nofb" to your

Re: Wiping an unencrypted SSD in preparation for encryption

2021-06-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jun 10, 2021 at 11:31:07PM -0500, David Wright wrote: I'm about to install buster or bullseye on a newly acquired laptop with an SSD (a first for me). I'm intending to clean (zero or randomise) the entire drive with dd before I start, and am interested in any pitfalls with that. Do not

Re: Wiping an unencrypted SSD in preparation for encryption

2021-06-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jun 11, 2021 at 06:19:37PM +0300, Reco wrote: Encryption costs me whopping 13 MB/s out of 385. Right now on my desktop I can read about 1.4GByte/s on an unencrypted partition and 1.3Gbyte/s on an encrypted partition. Whether that's significant is subjective.

Re: pppoe performance on debian and debian as router / firewall

2021-06-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Jun 05, 2021 at 08:07:56PM +0200, Antonio wrote: The problem is my ISP uses pppoe for my symmetric 1 gbps connection and I know this type of connection requires a quite performant cpu, as it is single-threaded and uses only one cpu core. That's not correct for linux kernel mode pppoe;

Re: [PATCH 0/1] Introduce sm3sum based on OSCCA SM3 hash

2021-05-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, May 27, 2021 at 04:15:20PM +0100, Pádraig Brady wrote: I'm thinking rather than add yet another *sum util, we might go the route of a single utility with an option to select which algorithm to use. +1

Re: [RFC PATCH] mv: add --swap option

2021-05-28 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, May 28, 2021 at 09:25:26PM +0900, Dominique Martinet wrote: Pádraig Brady wrote on Fri, May 28, 2021 at 12:58:48PM +0100: Yes sorry for the delay. Thanks for the reply! I'm not sure about --swap in mv to be honest. We were considering a separate `replace` utility, which might be

Re: xv (was Re: Changing background automatically, Mint 20.)

2021-05-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, May 22, 2021 at 11:50:57AM -0700, Charlie Gibbs wrote: I have to fall back to another viewer (usually ristretto, which I really don't like) to view these files. (Working on a file that xv likes with the Gimp is one good way to make a file it doesn't like.) I used xv, a long time ago.

Re: how to use mtp command line?

2021-05-23 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, May 23, 2021 at 01:12:50AM +, Long Wind wrote: https://wiki.debian.org/mtp i have success with jmtpfs, but it's very slow i want to use mtp-tools, but can't find documentation i use twm and try gui tool gmtp, with no success Try go-mtpfs. On my system jmtpfs will transfer large

Re: OT: minimum bs for dd?

2021-05-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, May 16, 2021 at 01:31:49PM -0500, Richard Owlett wrote: I'll bite ;} When is it the right tool? When you're using it to convert ebcdic to ascii, while swapping bytes and reblocking an ancient file from a barely readable archival tape. When is it not? When copying a file.

Re: OT: minimum bs for dd?

2021-05-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, May 15, 2021 at 11:32:31PM +0300, IL Ka wrote: As noted, is there a minimum bs size for dd? It seems that you can set bs as small as 1. 512 is the default because of HDD block size which used to be 512 bytes for more than 30 years (before advanced format was invented) dd wasn't

Re: Printing addresses on a #10 envelope (US)?

2021-05-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, May 11, 2021 at 11:26:01AM -0500, Nate Bargmann wrote: This must be a tough bug to resolve as this one has been open almost 9 years: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/show_bug.cgi?id=51132 It's probably hard to find developers who use envelopes

Re: version-sort ugliness or bugs

2021-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Apr 16, 2021 at 09:38:54AM -0700, Kaz Kylheku (Coreutils) wrote: On 2021-04-15 18:44, Erik Auerswald wrote: Hi, On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 11:47:34PM +0200, Vincent Lefevre wrote: I'm currently using version-sort in order to get integers sorted in strings (due to the lack of simple

Re: Boot better have mounted on root or /boot ?

2021-04-16 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Apr 11, 2021 at 02:33:22PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote: On Thu 08 Apr 2021 at 14:37:59 (+0200), Marco Ippolito wrote: What would you consider in your future planning regarding sizing /boot?

Re: [PATCH] ls: add --sort=width (-W) option to sort by filename width

2021-04-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 15, 2021 at 07:56:30AM -0500, Carl Edquist wrote: Anyway, after some time if you find yourself wanting to use the feature a lot but being bored to type --sort=width each time, maybe that will provide more inclination to add a short option... ("Yes," you might say, "but that's what

Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board]

2021-04-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 04:55:28PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: On 2021/04/12 15:37, Michael Stone wrote: Not true, if someone identifies with fascist doctrine, even if they keep those views off of the project channels, then they are not welcome here, no matter where they engaged in those kind

Re: Tone policing by a member of the community team [Was, Re: Statement regarding Richard Stallman's readmission to the FSF board]

2021-04-12 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Apr 12, 2021 at 02:56:34PM +0200, Jonathan Carter wrote: On 2021/04/11 01:28, Bernd Zeimetz wrote: Although I really prefer not to have them in the project, its is not the Debian project's task to rule about political believs, opinions, religions, fetishes and whatever else. But I

Re: Realtek RTL8723DE, RTL8821CE, RTL8822BE and RTL8822CE chipsets

2021-04-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 08:03:23PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Sat, Apr 03, 2021 at 10:37:37AM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: > > > Not sure what hardware you are talking about but the majority of WiFI > > > hardware is supported by the mainline kernels, at le

Re: Realtek RTL8723DE, RTL8821CE, RTL8822BE and RTL8822CE chipsets

2021-04-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Apr 01, 2021 at 11:52:46AM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: On Wed, Mar 31, 2021 at 10:38:11PM -0400, Michael Stone wrote: On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 10:20:03PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: > Not sure what hardware you are talking about but the majority of WiFI > hardware is sup

Re: Realtek RTL8723DE, RTL8821CE, RTL8822BE and RTL8822CE chipsets

2021-03-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Mar 30, 2021 at 10:20:03PM +0500, Andrey Rahmatullin wrote: Not sure what hardware you are talking about but the majority of WiFI hardware is supported by the mainline kernels, at least after you load their firmware. I assume you haven't tried very much wifi hardware. Realistically,

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 03:50:56PM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: In retrospect maybe DEC and SGI should have merged and then partnered with AMD (as you note above some of DEC's processor design team indeed ended up at AMD on the Opteron project), but I think it would have taken a crapload of

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 01:35:42PM -0400, Celejar wrote: Apparently POWER is having a bit of a resurgence lately due to its openness and non-x86ness: https://www.osnews.com/story/133093/review-blackbird-secure-desktop-a-fully-open-source-modern-power9-workstation-without-any-proprietary-code/

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 11:55:40AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: Michael Stone writes: ...HP bought Compaq. Compaq bought HP and then renamed themselves HP. The name was all they really wanted, of course. That's a strange way to position it, since HP gave Compaq shareholders HP shares

Re: [OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 11:03:59AM -0400, Stefan Monnier wrote: From a purely technical perspective, it's hard to understand how Intel managed to pour so much energy into such an obviously bad idea. The only explanations seem all to be linked to market strategies. They just had too much easy

Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Mar 14, 2021 at 10:44:00AM -0500, John Hasler wrote: The Wanderer wrote: It caught on, and became so successful that Intel abandoned its ia64 approach and started making amd64 CPUs itself. Which was unfortunate as the x86 architecture needed to die. Moving to ia64 would have been

Re: [EVEN MORE OFFTOPIC] Re: [?] Why should Distros be called as i386 for a 32-bit PC, and as amd64 for a 64-bit PC, when Intel Core PCs are also 64bit systems

2021-03-15 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Mar 15, 2021 at 12:53:46PM +, Joe wrote: On Mon, 15 Mar 2021 12:34:42 +0100 Sven Hartge wrote: Imagine a PC with 4GB adressable memory space in 1980. I can. It would have cost as much as a mainframe to make full use of it. More. Memory was often the largest line item back then,

Re: Question regarding hardware choices

2021-02-19 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Feb 19, 2021 at 01:45:23PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blind_men_and_an_elephant You thought this was helpful how?

Bug#981996: coreutils: dd create a regular file instead of writing to the block file

2021-02-05 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Feb 05, 2021 at 05:06:19PM +0100, Frédéric MASSOT wrote: Usually to copy an iso image to a USB stick I would do: dd if=image.iso of=/dev/sdg "/dev/sdg" the path to the USB key checked in the logs. Today with version dd (coreutils) 8.32, this command replaces the block device /dev/sdg

Bug#981778: exiv2: add upstream support for nikon ftz

2021-02-03 Thread Michael Stone
Package: exiv2 Version: 0.27.3-3 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch upstream Current exiv2 can't identify nikon F mount lens via FTZ adapter. Upstream support added in this pull, and it would be nice if it were merged in debian. https://github.com/Exiv2/exiv2/pull/1437 -- System Information: Debian

[Pkg-kde-extras] Bug#981778: exiv2: add upstream support for nikon ftz

2021-02-03 Thread Michael Stone
Package: exiv2 Version: 0.27.3-3 Severity: wishlist Tags: patch upstream Current exiv2 can't identify nikon F mount lens via FTZ adapter. Upstream support added in this pull, and it would be nice if it were merged in debian. https://github.com/Exiv2/exiv2/pull/1437 -- System Information: Debian

Bug#981625: coreutils: ln -svf fails on nfs share if symbolic link already exists

2021-02-02 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Feb 02, 2021 at 10:46:29AM +0100, cedric borgese wrote: Package: coreutils Version: 8.32-4+b1 Severity: normal X-Debbugs-Cc: cedric.borg...@gmail.com Dear Maintainer, trying to update a symbolic link from a nfs share silently fails. if the symbolic link /some/nfs/share/tmp already

Re: Disk errors ...

2021-01-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 12:45:56PM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: I agree - probably not a disk error - though it never hurts to check one's drives every once in a while. I can think of a very long list of things that are good to do or can't hurt on a debian system. Enumerating them in response

Re: Disk errors ...

2021-01-14 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Jan 14, 2021 at 11:45:25AM -0500, Miles Fidelman wrote: Dennis Wicks wrote: Greetings; I am getting very frequent disk errors and I can't figure out which drive they are occurring on. I get two messages: [174384.704895] sata_sil :05:00.0: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT

Re: old red cables cause Disk errors ...

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 07:03:54PM -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 05:46:03PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Well, this is all very interesting! I have *two* SATALink/SATARaid expansion cards and neither of them have any red cables! They are at pci addresses 05:00 and 05:01

Re: old red cables cause Disk errors ...

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 05:46:03PM -0600, Dennis Wicks wrote: Well, this is all very interesting! I have *two* SATALink/SATARaid expansion cards and neither of them have any red cables! They are at pci addresses 05:00 and 05:01! How do I tell which is which? Pull one out. :-)

Re: Anyone using a Displayport to VGA adapter?

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 06:27:15PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday, January 13, 2021 05:36:13 PM Michael Stone wrote: On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:50:38PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: >Is anyone on here using a Displayport to VGA adapter? If so: > * How's it w

Re: Disk errors ...

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 02:53:58PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: I used to think "a cable is a cable, color does not matter", but I have experienced many storage hardware issues over the years that were caused by red SATA cables. Other readers on this list have had similar experiences. The

Re: intel-microcode not fixing CVE-2018-3640, CVE-2018-3615 on Debian 10?

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 09:49:43PM +0100, Christoph Pflügler wrote: [    0.00] microcode: microcode updated early to revision 0xd6, date = 2019-10-03 [    0.379026] SRBDS: Vulnerable: No microcode [    1.625090] microcode: sig=0x506e3, pf=0x2, revision=0xd6 [    1.625215] microcode:

Re: Anyone using a Displayport to VGA adapter?

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 12:50:38PM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: Is anyone on here using a Displayport to VGA adapter? If so: * How's it working? * Does it handle at least 1920x1080 resolution? If anybody has used both a Displayport to VGA adapter ands a USB-3.1 to VGA adapter, do you

Re: Disk errors ...

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Jan 13, 2021 at 01:55:37PM -0800, David Christensen wrote: On 2021-01-13 11:07, Dennis Wicks wrote: I am getting very frequent disk errors and I can't figure out which drive they are occurring on. I get two messages: [174384.704895] sata_sil :05:00.0: Event logged [IO_PAGE_FAULT

Re: intel-microcode not fixing CVE-2018-3640, CVE-2018-3615 on Debian 10?

2021-01-13 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Jan 12, 2021 at 05:25:23PM +0100, Giacomo Catenazzi wrote: In any case, according Intel, microcode should be updated by BIOS I wonder if anyone from intel can manage to say that with a straight face.

Re: How automatic are backport package updates?

2021-01-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 08:56:25PM +, Brian wrote: On Mon 11 Jan 2021 at 14:54:52 -0500, Michael Stone wrote: On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 09:26:11PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > > > In my experience 'apt upgrade' is sufficient for most (1 in 10 or even > > > more) upgrades

Re: How automatic are backport package updates?

2021-01-11 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 11, 2021 at 09:26:11PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Lu, 11 ian 21, 08:06:50, Greg Wooledge wrote: On Sun, Jan 10, 2021 at 11:03:54AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: > In my experience 'apt upgrade' is sufficient for most (1 in 10 or even > more) upgrades, even on unstable. I think

Re: intel-microcode not fixing CVE-2018-3640, CVE-2018-3615 on Debian 10?

2021-01-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 10:48:30PM +0100, Christoph Pflügler wrote: On 08.01.21 22:34, Michael Stone wrote: On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 09:12:53PM +0100, Christoph Pflügler wrote: Installing package intel-microcode in Debian 10 (Buster) mitigates most vulnerabilities as per spectre-meltdown

Re: intel-microcode not fixing CVE-2018-3640, CVE-2018-3615 on Debian 10?

2021-01-08 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 08, 2021 at 09:12:53PM +0100, Christoph Pflügler wrote: Installing package intel-microcode in Debian 10 (Buster) mitigates most vulnerabilities as per spectre-meltdown-checker. However, CVE-2018-3640 and CVE-2018-3615 are still displayed as unmitigated after reboot, with

Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller.

2021-01-04 Thread Michael Stone
On Mon, Jan 04, 2021 at 09:30:08AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Du, 03 ian 21, 19:53:07, Michael Stone wrote: Applications which need more data integrity guarantees generally implement some sort of journalling and/or use atomic filesystem operations. (E.g., write a temporary file, flush/sync

Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller.

2021-01-03 Thread Michael Stone
On Sun, Jan 03, 2021 at 11:25:40AM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: That would mean all data is written to the disk twice and would make a journaling file system twice as slow compared to a non-journaling file system; the journal is typically on the same storage. That's almost never how it's

Re: recommendations for supported, affordable hardware raid controller.

2021-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 01:06:47PM -0500, Steven Mainor wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a 6 or 8 port SATA hardware raid controller that will hopefully be supported by the kernel and/or open source drivers to put in my desktop computer. Any input welcome, thanks. Revenue

Re: Webcam resolution in VLC (and elsewhere)

2021-01-01 Thread Michael Stone
On Fri, Jan 01, 2021 at 09:50:00AM -0500, Celejar wrote: On Thu, 31 Dec 2020 11:13:54 -0500 Michael Stone wrote: On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 10:59:36AM -0500, Celejar wrote: >I don't know how to evaluate this. But still, if the camera is >reporting 720p, shouldn't the applications d

Re: Webcam resolution in VLC (and elsewhere)

2020-12-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 10:59:36AM -0500, Celejar wrote: I don't know how to evaluate this. But still, if the camera is reporting 720p, shouldn't the applications default to that? The optical quality on most small web cams is so bad that increasing the resolution just means significantly more

Re: mdadm usage

2020-12-31 Thread Michael Stone
On Thu, Dec 31, 2020 at 07:25:54AM -0500, rhkra...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by power loss protection -- do you mean, for example, that the host computer is on a UPS, or is that a feature of some SSDs? It's a feature of server SSDs. I wouldn't worry about it on a consumer device,

Re: mdadm usage

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:44:09PM +0100, deloptes wrote: It depends. For example on the machine at home with LSI adapter that provides the speed of SATA II I do not see any benefit of using SSD except power saving The improvement in seek times typically makes for a dramatic improvement in

Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 04:07:01PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: If it works, it shouldn't need fixing, or replacing. And yet, this entire subthread was premised on an upgrade! If you want to keep running old hardware then do so. Why on earth would it upset you that someone else isn't? It's

Re: mdadm usage

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 09:12:08PM +0200, Andrei POPESCU wrote: On Mi, 30 dec 20, 13:29:05, Marc Auslander wrote: IMHO, there are two levels of backup. The more common use is to undo user error - deleting the wrong thing or changing something and wanting to back out. For that, backups on the

Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Wed, Dec 30, 2020 at 01:35:19PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Michael Stone composed on 2020-12-30 08:56 (UTC-0500): On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:58:38PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: So people are supposed to discard or replace their older external devices just because something else came along

Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU

2020-12-30 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 10:58:38PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: So people are supposed to discard or replace their older external devices just because something else came along that may or may not actually be as well suited to task? Basically, yes. If I'm provisioning a new system, it seems

Re: No GRUB with brand-new GPU

2020-12-29 Thread Michael Stone
On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 09:42:11PM -0500, Felix Miata wrote: Michael Stone composed on 2020-12-29 17:30 (UTC-0500): On Tue, Dec 29, 2020 at 04:52:48PM -0500, The Wanderer wrote: Matching that level of versatility with *modern* ports on a modern motherboard, especially without access

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