Re: [Langcom] our interaction (WAS: Four Wikipedia project requests dating from 2009 or earlier)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:44 PM, Steven White wrote: > The new voting rules were implemented as of MF-Warburg's email post of > 21:03:56 UTC, 18 July 2017. > (https://lists.wikimedia.org/pipermail/langcom/2017-July/001557.html) Then, it's definitely good to have you as

Re: [Langcom] our interaction (WAS: Four Wikipedia project requests dating from 2009 or earlier)

Michael, I appreciate your effort to be constructive. In short, it is late for real life cooperation. It is late for mutual respect, as well. But it is not late for doing the job of LangCom members without provocations and by not obstructing creation of Wikimedia projects in languages which

Re: [Langcom] our interaction (WAS: Four Wikipedia project requests dating from 2009 or earlier)

> writing-emails-forum-posts/ (esp. no.7) > [3] https://www.simplehelp.net/2006/08/14/how-to-be-polite- > while-youre-online-practicing-good-netiquette/ > [4] http://images.slideplayer.com/47/11762279/slides/slide_3.jpg > > > On 11-Dec-17 12:21, Milos Rancic wrote: > > O

Re: [Langcom] our interaction (WAS: Four Wikipedia project requests dating from 2009 or earlier)

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 9:18 AM, Oliver Stegen wrote: > I support Michael's call to stop offensive rants. And to be precise: Miloš, > I perceive your posts and attitude to be highly disruptive (and that is not > just my personal opinion but based on the standards of

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

there isn’t one. > On 9 Dec 2017, at 21:59, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen > <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Or tafel or tisch or tryezë or ميز and that is exactly why all these words >> are n

Re: [Langcom] Four Wikipedia project requests dating from 2009 or earlier

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 10:53 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > When we cannot civilly talk to each other, then no, we are not agreeing on > anything. Ah, I didn't expect nothing better from you! Because of our conflict, you are ready to punish unrelated people from the

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 10:51 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Or tafel or tisch or tryezë or ميز and that is exactly why all these words > are not to be used in Klingon. The same is true for table actually. Your incompetence is astonishing! Please, tell that to the

[Langcom] Steven to get access to the private list archive

I propose Steven to get access to the private list archive. I've seen that he is making some comments which don't include the information existing there. (AFAIK, we've been talking about Quechua languages before making this list public.) And it makes sense that he, as the clerk, should have access

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

On Sat, Dec 9, 2017 at 8:23 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > It seems important to me to have some sort of rule which ensures consistency > wrt artificial languages. Otherwise it will give reason to all sorts of > unnecessary complaints. I suppose that we will have in the near

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

rardM > > On 8 December 2017 at 23:22, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 10:58 PM, MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com> >> wrote: >> > Can we, by the way, define more detailed criteria for which artificial >> > l

Re: [Langcom] Lingua Franca Nova Wikipedia

On Fri, Dec 8, 2017 at 11:47 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > I’m working with both Boeree and with Simon Davies on a new dictionary of > LFN. I published Simon’s translation of Alice in 2012. > https://www.amazon.com/La-aventuras-Alisia-pais-mervelias/dp/1904808883 > > I’m

Re: [Langcom] Three non-Wikipedia project requests dating to 2010 ... plus Khowar Wikipedia

Yes. "On hold" has two main usages: (1) instead of approving (or rejecting) the project if the request for the *first* project hasn't been made by a native speaker (and the native population has at least one serious obstacle to have a valid project, like very small population or lack of access to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Brazil

opinion. On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 5:30 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > Chico, Rodrigo and I had a very good meeting today. It lasted one hour > and half, we were talking about various topics (via Google Hangouts) > they care of and we've reached the agreement about th

Re: [Langcom] Looking to close two long-open requests for project closures

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 6:07 PM, Steven White wrote: > Bosnian project was a Wikibooks, not a Wikinews. Sorry, I was thinking about Wikinews (and they also have inactive Wikinews). The same applies + Wikibooks is more important project than Wikinews.

Re: [Langcom] Looking to close two long-open requests for project closures

On Wed, Nov 15, 2017 at 12:00 AM, Steven White wrote: > Bosnian (Bosnanski) Wikibooks > > Since the creation of this request in January 2015, about 20 users have > commented. In general, the arguments SUPPORTING state that there are only > 37 (or so) mainspace pages in

Re: [Langcom] Marking of requests as eligible (or not)

On Fri, Nov 17, 2017 at 4:06 PM, Steven White wrote: > Slovincian: Rejected. Has no valid language code; generally considered a > dialect of Kashubian (csb). (The last non-housekeeping edit on this request > was in 2010.) Slavistics recognizes Slovincian as a language

Re: [Langcom] English, USA and Australian

On Sun, Nov 12, 2017 at 6:50 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Absolutely. There is no reason why en-AU or en-US are not valid and cannot > be used in WIkidata for monolingual text.. That is a particular property in > Wikidata. What is a problem is that at the same time

Re: [Langcom] Proposing myself as official clerk to the Language Committee

t;> I am happy with this as well. >> Thanks. >> GerardM >> >> On 8 November 2017 at 10:02, Maor Malul <mao...@zoho.com> wrote: >> >>> Agreed! >>> >>> On 5/11/2017 9:24 p.m., Milos Rancic wrote: >>> >>> I support Steven a

Re: [Langcom] English, USA and Australian

Where is it written and when did we agree about that? On Nov 12, 2017 10:26 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" <gerard.meijs...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hoi, > Yes it does. > Thanks, > GerardM > > On 12 November 2017 at 10:24, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> w

Re: [Langcom] English, USA and Australian

LangCom does not decide about that. On Nov 12, 2017 10:08 AM, "Gerard Meijssen" wrote: > Hoi, > There is a request for a code for Australian and USAmerican English. For > use in Wikidata there is imho no reason why not to allow it. > Thanks, >GerardM > >

[Langcom] Wikipedia Kumyk eligible; approval should be discussed

In 2011 I've put the request [1] on hold, while we were waiting for the native speakers. Native speakers appeared (with >500 pages in Incubator [2]) and I've moved the proposal to the eligible status, as it's a valid language with a valid ISO 639-3 code. It is possible that they could pass with

[Langcom] Fwd: Re: Request for closure of Nahuatl Wikipedia

Forwarding Marcos' email. -- Forwarded message -- From: "Marcos Williamson" <node...@gmail.com> Date: Oct 10, 2017 10:37 PM Subject: Re: [Langcom] Request for closure of Nahuatl Wikipedia To: "Wikimedia Foundation Language Committee" <langcom@lists.

Re: [Langcom] Kurdish autonyms

Autonym is not your/our business. Add something inside of parentheses if it's ambiguous in some contexts, but it's autonym, not langcomnym. On Jul 2, 2017 14:13, "Amir E. Aharoni" wrote: > Hi, > > Maybe somebody here will have an idea about this problematic issue.

Re: [List admins] Help with spam configuration and regex filtering

t; sure, taking into account that the instructions on the very mailman config > page difer a bit. > > Oh, and I forgot to mention that > <https://wikitech.wikimedia.org/wiki/Mailman#Spam_scores> is the advice I > followed on 1) > > Regards, M. > > 2017-06-07 22:18 GMT+02:00 Milos

Re: [List admins] Help with spam configuration and regex filtering

1) I would write the regex this way: "^X\-Spam\-Score:\s*[0-9]+\.[0-9]+\(\+*\)" Note that "^" is here because SMTP protocol requires the filed to start at the beginning of the line. We can't be sure what's at the end of the line. 2) Mail servers should be able to recognize banned domains with

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 2:37 AM, Samuel Klein wrote: > Institutional racism is a problem.* Thank you with astersik! <3 > Changing a lang code on WP to be out > of sync w/ ISO won't change that problem, and will introduce new problems. > (For instance: this list would become a

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:27 AM, MF-Warburg wrote: > By the way, I find it interesting that Steven mentioned that there are some > editors on Incubator currently at Wp/arn. It seems like not all the speakers > object that strongly to it that they feel they can't

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Fri, May 19, 2017 at 12:24 AM, Maor Malul wrote: > For Wayuunaiki speakers, GUC comes from Guajiro, also a derogatory term > imposed by the Spaniards. Again, the definition of maturity is clear, this > issue has been going around for years, and they prefer not to have a >

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 11:59 PM, Maor Malul wrote: > I find it outrageously narrow-minded that the Chileans won't accept a > Wikipedia in Mapudungun because they find the code offensive. So, they care > more about the code than having a Wikipedia? Come on..if they disagree with

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 8:18 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > There is no point of having a project in the incubator that will not be > published as a Wikipedia because it is highly unlikely that we will get > consensus or a qualified majority for such a thing. It is not

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:20 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: >> On 18 May 2017, at 14:11, Steven White <koala19...@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> It seems to me

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 6:16 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > On 18 May 2017, at 14:11, Steven White wrote: > >> It seems to me that the best immediate solution is for us to assign them a >> q-code, maybe qmp. > > If we were to do this we would be open

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 5:55 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > Please explain your reasoning. Do not forget to explain why you have to > attack me by accusing me of not wanting communities without Wikimedia > projects. You know what the policy is like, you know why it came

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 3:39 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Do I remember correctly that using a code for private use (q--) was > discussed before and rejected for a reason I dont remember? Because Gerard was "dead against it". ___

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 3:33 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > I am dead set against it. When time comes, Language committee will vote about the issue. If it doesn't accept it, we will discuss publicly if Wikimedia movement supports or not institutional racism.

Re: [Langcom] Proposed short-to-mid-term solution for Mapudungun/Mapuche

Yes, that seems like an option. We shouldn't perpetuate institutional racism of other important internet organizations. On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 3:11 PM, Steven White wrote: > It seems to me that the best immediate solution is for us to assign them a > q-code, maybe qmp.

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: >> On 18 May 2017, at 12:56, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> >> wrote: >>> The c

Re: [Langcom] Problems keyboarding African languages

Done. On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:07 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > Will do that. > > On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: >> I was looking at https://ak.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twi and have discovered that >> a

Re: [Langcom] Problems keyboarding African languages

Will do that. On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 2:05 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > I was looking at https://ak.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twi and have discovered that > at least half of the letters which should be encoded as LATIN SMALL LETTER > OPEN O have been written as HEBREW LETTER

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 1:43 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > The correct terms to use are “endonym” and “exonym”. You maintain that at > least some Mapuche dislike an exonym so much that they refuse to use a > Wikipedia prefixed with “arn”. They live in Chile, right? In a

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for fast approval policy amendment

On Thu, May 18, 2017 at 7:33 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > I am not in any particular rush to continue this conversation. The way Milos > has rubbed everybody and did not stop and did go on is problematic. For me > the whole idea of a language foundation is something not

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 8:42 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: > On 17 May 2017, at 17:13, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Because SIL is at least sensible enough to have the policy to change >> derogatory codes, while Congress L

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

We should start finishing this issue. May all of you check the previous discussion and say if you agree in general with the proposal amended by MF-Warburg? If so, I would make the next draft. On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 12:52 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Sat, Feb 11, 201

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for fast approval policy amendment

t; think you could convince me. > > 2017-02-08 2:13 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com>: >> >> Gerard and I were talking today about this issue. Here is the proposal >> to be added into the LPP if accepted. Gerard's parts are related to >> the trad

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:59 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > In the mail it says that our director made a suggestion. > > When you see fit to present someone publicly you invite response. The > private mailing list is also applicable for this. Yes, Kathrine suggested

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 1:51 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > === Internal procedures === > > We should define the following internal procedures: > > * Who should define the rules how we are making decisions, per our > communicatio

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 7:41 PM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > I am not comfortable with Asaf in an official role. His summarily dismissal > of any research in the rise of the Cebuano Wikipedia / the use of bot > created articles makes him only acceptable in a role of

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 4:46 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: > On 17 May 2017, at 15:23, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > >>>> BTW, it's about ISO-639-3, not ISO-639-6 code. >>> >>> It is an ISO 639-2 code. >> >&

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:28 PM, Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com> wrote: > On 17 May 2017, at 13:14, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This is the core of the problem of every dominantly white dominantly male >> dominantly Western institution: Ignori

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:18 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: >> === Phabricator task into the project === >> >> Amir should convert the tracking task on Phabricator into a project. >> Our mailing list should be subscribed to relevant >> tasks/tickets/projects, making all

Re: [Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

On Wed, May 17, 2017 at 2:08 PM, Michael Everson wrote: > “Pressure” doesn’t work. They are humans and they will work on pressure which comes from the relevant sides. And it's better they do not piss me enough to show them that everybody has limits. >> To be honest, I am

[Langcom] Notes from the Berlin meeting

Sorry for delay. As I said, I am the sole responsible person for this delay, as I had numerous tasks to do in the meantime and this is not something to be done without being fully concentrated. == Organizational issues == === Yearly meetings in Berlin === Yearly meetings in Berlin. We've

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Closure of Beta Wikiversity

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:32 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > Pretty please, let's not even mention Multilngual Wikisource here. There is > no plan to close it and it's not related to this discussion at all. > > This discussion is only about Beta Wikiversity. True. The

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Closure of Beta Wikiversity

On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Lodewijk wrote: > Thanks for the pointer. On the proposal page, I'm missing a somewhat clear > and straightforward summary of the arguments in favor and against closing > (why is the request made, and what was considered). That seems

[Wikimedia-l] Closure of Beta Wikiversity

There is the proposal for moving Beta Wikiversity into the Incubator [1]. According to the Closing project policy [2], the decision about closing projects is something done by particular members of the Language committee (while the Board could veto the decision). However, this is an unusual

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Proposed projects

On Tue, May 9, 2017 at 5:29 PM, James Heilman wrote: > Wikigames is not educational so not within scope. There are many educational games in the wild. They could also make us less boring. -- Milos ___ Wikimedia-l mailing list,

Re: [Langcom] [Approval] of Hindi Wikivoyage

On Sun, May 7, 2017 at 11:56 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > I am still waiting for information about what has been discussed in > Berlin. Repeatedly promised to me by Milosh.. Apparently he has other > priorities. > Sorry. Not just priorities. I am in the middle of

[Langcom] Fwd: [Newprojects] New wiki: dtywiki

Doteli is up. Satdeep, I suppose you want to write something about it? (I can't find if we've written about it here already.) -- Forwarded message -- From: Date: Mon, Apr 24, 2017 at 2:08 PM Subject: [Newprojects] New wiki: dtywiki To:

Re: [Langcom] Livvi-Karelian Wikisource

Yes. The language is a valid one. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 11:05 PM, Antony Green wrote: > We've had a request for a Wikisource in Livvi-Karelian > [meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikisource_Livvi-Karelian]. > Since there is already a Wikipedia in that

Re: [Langcom] [Strategy] Join the discussion on our strategic direction (Cycle 1: 10 March to 10 April)

Nicole, I've signed up as a [temporary] coordinator. Language committee has been catching things for the last few months and we have to start talking first about what we want to talk in relation to the strategy process. We'll do the best to do that. On Wed, Apr 19, 2017 at 2:04 AM, Nicole Ebber

Re: [Langcom] Beta Wikiversity

Nicolas, Multilingual Wikisource is a non-issue and it won't be an issue as long as it has a decent community fulfilling its goals and helping others. On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:34 PM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > Hi, > > I can't speak and don't know well beta

Re: [Langcom] Moldovan projects

On Sat, Apr 15, 2017 at 10:33 PM, Amir E. Aharoni wrote: > OK, that's what I meant. Does it make sense to move to Incubator? AFAIK, the content is of poor quality. But it's not even about that, but about our message: the educational value of the orthography is

Re: [Langcom] Discussions about membership

rrent. I believe the members of the list are only the > current langcom members, but I'm not sure whether all the e-mail addresses > are current. I'll post the full list of subscribers to the private list so > everyone can check to see if there are errors. > > 2017-04-13 0:14 GMT+02:00

Re: [Langcom] Discussions about membership

I agree. Let's do the following: * Remove everybody who is not a LangCom member from that list. (OK, Asaf should be welcome there as our de facto acting WMF liaison; we need to talk about liaison, as well; I am writing my notes from the Berlin meeting.) * Add there all the LangCom members. *

Re: [Langcom] Proposal to call André Müller as the new LangCom member

> +1 >> >> André, you're very welcome! >> >> On 06-Apr-17 13:24, Milos Rancic wrote: >> >> Andre, sorry for delay in responding... >> >> May we add Andre to the list and welcome him as the new member of the >> Language committee? >> >&

Re: [Langcom] Proposal to call André Müller as the new LangCom member

s from Switzerland, > - André > > 2017-02-13 0:13 GMT+01:00 Michael Everson <ever...@evertype.com>: > >> Please ask him :-) >> >> I’ve cc’d him here. >> >> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:N-true >> >> >> >> >> > On

Re: [Langcom] announcements about new features related to language

On Thu, Apr 6, 2017 at 7:39 AM, Gerard Meijssen wrote: > PS is there a writeup on the Berlin meetup ? > We had meetings every day from Thursday evening to Sunday evening i various lineups. I have some of the notes, others have their own. I've just cached up with my

Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia

On Tue, Apr 4, 2017 at 11:48 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > > "I am using only one account namely Rachitrali, if the other users are > using the same IP address, this is not my fault, more than 100 and 1000 > users are using one IP address, due to same IP address one can not

Re: [Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Kabɩyɛ eligible

s 9 and 10. (This text has been compiled from the Wikipedia articles Kabye people <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabye_people> and Kabiye language <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kabiye_language>.) On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 9:53 AM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > Anyone wil

Re: [Langcom] Proposed rejection of Wiktionary Lingwa de Planeta

Rejected. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:16 AM, Satdeep Gill <satdeepg...@gmail.com> wrote: > I also agree > > Regards > Satdeep Gill > > > > From: Langcom <langcom-boun...@lists.wikimedia.org> on behalf of Milos > Rancic <m

Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia analysis

Thanks! On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 8:22 PM, MF-Warburg <mfwarb...@googlemail.com> wrote: > I will > > Am 19.03.2017 8:14 nachm. schrieb "Milos Rancic" <mill...@gmail.com>: >> >> Who is going to fill the Phabricator ticket? >> >> On Sun, Mar 19

Re: [Langcom] Franc-Comtois

Rejected On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 11:33 AM, Nicolas VIGNERON wrote: > 2017-03-10 10:13 GMT+01:00 MF-Warburg : >> >> I think we have to reject >> >> as well,

Re: [Langcom] Doteli Wikipedia analysis

Who is going to fill the Phabricator ticket? On Sun, Mar 19, 2017 at 1:16 PM, Oliver Stegen wrote: > +1 > > Glad to see that Doteli seems to be ready to get their own domain > dty.wikipedia.org > > > On 19-Mar-17 14:38, Satdeep Gill wrote: > > I just got this email. > >

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligible status for Wikipedia in Cora

I put it on hold on February 20th; forgot to write it here. On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:56 PM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > OK. Changing suggestion into "on hold" and extending discussion till > February 13-14th. > > On Mon, Feb 6, 2017 at 12:54 PM, Ger

Re: [Langcom] Proposed rejection of Wiktionary Lingwa de Planeta

Agreed. On Fri, Mar 10, 2017 at 10:04 AM, MF-Warburg wrote: > A constructed language: > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wiktionary_Lingwa_de_Planeta > Regardless of its "degree of recognition", an ISO code request was rejected > in 2014. > The

Re: [Langcom] Request for Wikipedia in Kabɩyɛ eligible

" >> >> She sent more details on individual words but unless you insist, I won't >> send it all. >> >> As I'm currently in rural Tanzania on a consulting trip with a full >> schedule and unreliable internet access, I would ask one of you to take the >> necessar

Re: [Langcom] Rejection of Sichuanese Mandarin

On Thu, Mar 2, 2017 at 10:26 AM, Oliver Stegen wrote: > As a linguist I cannot support the argument that "it is only a dialect", as > the continuum between language and dialect is often arbitrary and political. > However, based on the argument that Sichuanese Mandarin does

Re: [Langcom] Facebook page

acebook account. Also, Facebook is very ephemeral - posts > come and go, they are hard to search, and it's challenging to find old > ones. > > A recently suggested idea, that a Langcom member who champions a new > project would write a blog post about is much more sustainable, a

Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis

6 15:55 GMT+03:00 Satdeep Gill <satdeepg...@gmail.com>: >> >> Awesome! I would love to write for the wikimedia blog. And yes, we should >> promote languages on the blog. >> >> I will do it the next few days. >> >> Regards >> Satdeep Gill >> >&g

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Punjabi Wikisource

The same as with Khowar Wikipedia: (1) should be moved (Phabricator ticket etc.); (2) I've marked it as approved; (3) a blog post about (Eastern) Punjabi people, culture and language should be written. On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:19 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > Just a reminder

[Langcom] Facebook page

I've created Facebook page for LangCom: https://www.facebook.com/wmlangcom/ It could be used for various announcements ("New Wikimedia language!", "We are now working on this!" etc.) and discussions about things we are interested in. I'll give admin permissions to every LangCom member who wants

Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis

On Sun, Feb 26, 2017 at 1:14 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > I can surely prepare a paragraph about the Khowar people, language and > culture in the next two days. A couple of paragraphs, a legitimate blog post :) But it's not that hard: Wikipedia and Ethnologue could give you

Re: [Langcom] Khowar Wikipedia analysis

So, it's been approved after the first expert confirmed that the written material is indeed in particular language. Do you want to proceed with the approval process? (I've marked it as approved on the page Requests for new languages.) Also, may you prepare a couple of paragraphs about Khowar

Re: [Langcom] - Wikinews Marathi marked eligible

Thank you, Satdeep! On Tue, Feb 21, 2017 at 3:24 PM, Satdeep Gill wrote: > Hi everyone, > > I have marked Wikinews Marathi[1] as eligible as Marathi Wikipedia already > exists. > > 1. > https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Requests_for_new_languages/Wikinews_Marathi > > Regards

[Langcom] Fwd: [Maniphest] [Created] T158730: Automate WMF wiki creation

et. (Thanks to Milos Rancic for raising this issue with me.) *TASK DETAIL* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T158730 *EMAIL PREFERENCES* https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/ *To: *tstarling *Cc: *mobrovac, Reedy, demon, millosh, tstarling, Aklapper, Liudvikas, Luke08

Re: [Langcom] Campidanese Sardinian, suggesting eligibility

Sarda_Comuna On Mon, Feb 20, 2017 at 3:13 PM, Luca Martinelli <martinellil...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hey Milos, I can put you in contact with a couple of Sardinian users, > who can be surely more helpful than me. :) > > L. > > 2017-02-20 4:56 GMT+01:00 Milos Rancic <mill...

Re: [Langcom] Campidanese Sardinian, suggesting eligibility

Hey, Luca, may you (or somebody else from WM IT) find for us an Italian linguist specialized in Romance language and able to give us recommendations in relation to the Campidanese Sardinian (and other Italian languages)? On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:02 AM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com>

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for eligible status for Eastern Bolivian Guarani Wikipedia

Marked as eligible. On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:59 AM, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: > I would mark this proposal [1] as eligible if there is no Guarani > Wikipedia [2], so leaving here for the standard procedure. > > Guarani Wikipedia uses Paraguayan Guarani, so

[Wikimedia-l] Very good news!

This is an extraordinary news for us! For almost 10 years I was hoping to see that and, finally, I've seen it! In short, it seems that we reached the bottom in participation in 2014 and that we are now slowly going upwards. My claim is based on the analysis [1] of the Eric Zachte's participation

Re: [Langcom] Proposal for needed experts / expertise

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 5:25 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Is there anything to decide about point 1 at all? No, but it was just an information, which differs from what I previously proposed. > And if point 2 is a proposal for a new member, can we have an explicit > thread

Re: [Langcom] Voting changes

On Sat, Feb 11, 2017 at 6:19 PM, MF-Warburg wrote: >> 1.2) Clear-cut situations for making a language eligible for Wikimedia >> projects: the language has a valid ISO 639-3 code, there are no >> significant issues in relation to the language itself, the population >> of

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Khowar Wikipedia

s not that I don't believe Rachitrali would be a suitable expert himself, > but when there's one expert, another one will be somewhere who can at least > confirm him, right? And I see Satdeep notes he already contacted one. > > Am 12.02.2017 9:54 vorm. schrieb "Milos Rancic" <mil

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Khowar Wikipedia

On Sun, Feb 12, 2017 at 9:52 AM, MF-Warburg wrote: > Ehm no, why should there not be? The project creator is one of the most important cultural figures of that language. It seems to me redundant to check if the language is legitimate in such circumstances.

[Langcom] After the project creation

It would be nice if the LangCom member, who has taken care about creation of the particular project, writes at least a article about the language and culture (and possible previously created projects) and send it to wikimedia-l and to Wikimedia PR to publish it on blog.wikimedia.org. It doesn't

Re: [Langcom] Approval of Khowar Wikipedia

;> I have emailed a linguist as well. >> >> Just for information, I would like everyone to note that the person >> leading this project, Rehmat Aziz Chitrali has himself founded Khowar >> Academy and has a Wikipedia article about himself as well. >> >> Regards >&g

Re: [Langcom] Membership changes

On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 8:58 PM, Alolita Sharma wrote: > Greetings! I follow the LangCom discussions regularly and appreciate having > access to observe. > > Thank you for having me still being an observer. Let me know if you'd like > to see observers such as myself being

Re: [Langcom] Governance changes

lease. > Thanks, >GerardM > > On 9 February 2017 at 15:30, Milos Rancic <mill...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Based on the input from the previous couple of days, I am listing >> them. Some of them are in the form of the request for comment, some of >>

[Langcom] Membership changes

One issue: membership. == Membership == * Accepting any new member would still require consensus of those who expressed their opinion. (Nothing has changed.) * LangCom members should read messages in a timely fashion (at least twice per week), and to contribute on such decisions, where

[Langcom] Governance changes

Based on the input from the previous couple of days, I am listing them. Some of them are in the form of the request for comment, some of them are in the form of the proposal. So, please, comment if you disagree with some of the items. == Membership == * Accepting any new member would still

Re: [Langcom] Committee governance

On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 9:42 AM, Oliver Stegen wrote: > Re participation expectations: I expect LangCom members to read messages in > a timely fashion (as we have a 7-day deadline on decisions, that would mean > at least twice per week), and to contribute on such decisions,

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