it at
the moment...
There is an ongoing issue with the thumbnail server, which has been
acting up all week. We're working on a quick temporary fix.
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will end up near
the bottom of the body though, so you can't use inline JS to call
functions defined in that script.
Aren't too much
number of extensions would become suddenly incompatible due of that
change?
As long as they're not using inline JS, they won't break.
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there to optimize your site, or you can have humans
implement those optimizations in MediaWiki. The latter is exactly what
ResourceLoader is doing.
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if those people don't have time because their real responsibilities
take up all their time.
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* Back in December 2009, I had to take a few weeks off for fiscal
reasons and spent that time processing some of the backlog, which I
remember jokingly characterizing as doing Rob's
geoip.wm.o allows querying arbitrary IPs, but there's plenty of
other such services out there) and find out the rough location it
corresponds to. That means any questions regarding privacy of location
fall back to privacy of IP, and that's something we already have a
well-established policy for.
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links from
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PHP - which would be a list of 6 items
(Official website, PHP, Open Directory Project, ...)
You can't do this with the API other than just pulling the wikitext of
that section and parsing that or something.
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of
enabling a feature on a certain set of wikis (possibly all) upon
deployment and have requests to extend that set go through the shell
request procedure works just fine IMO.
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is a cookieless
domain. As opposed to other domains like wikipedia.org and
wikibooks.org , wikimedia.org doesn't get domain-wide cookies either,
because there are wikimedia.org subdomains not controlled by WMF.
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to be deployed to the Wikimedia
cluster, but in the meantime changing your clients to no longer depend
on the patrol token to stay the same can't hurt.
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This'll get 50 search results for Albert Einstein, then get the first
50 categories for each of those pages.
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Never before did we load JS through a special page like that, and with
the resource loader coming up it will never be needed ever again,
cause we can and will run everything through load.php . It's a
one-time anomaly, so no need for any convention.
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complications, I do think Tim should be involved.
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feared, this is an after X plan, where X is the
next release. I disagree that that necessarily implies
procrastination, however. Sometimes there are valid reasons to do X
first, then Y, and I think this is such a case.
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Is there any way in which I can do that elegantly?
Afraid not.
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. Volunteers, in turn, should be aware that they have a
part to play too. Also, both sides should realize behaviors don't
change overnight, and should give each other time to adapt and cut
each other some slack in the meantime.
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after having worked at WMF for quite some time. Don't
underestimate how long this process takes. We as a community go way
back, and outside staffers have missed all that history.
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with the 1.17 release, but that should be
discussed in a separate thread I guess.
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/Alan_Jackson).
Page ID 328877 does not correspond to [[Alan Jackson]], but to [[List
of music performers]], see
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querypageids=328877prop=info
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/Special:ExpandTemplates ), but I don't know if
and how I could access its functionality from my application and how I could
use it for several templates at once.
Special:ExpandTemplates has the same functionality as
action=expandtemplates AFAIK.
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don't think any
new commenters will.
Let's just move Vector and WikiEditor into core soon and be done with it.
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after which the
toolbar will Just Work for them is fine.
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2010/10/8 MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com:
I don't see how the link you provided addresses the post you were replying
to at all.
I think Ryan meant that the hiring a (full-time) Bugmeister was in the
annual plan.
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(no way to tell without
trying it out), but it makes sense to avoid wasteful requests.
Changing the default of the existing preference makes sense to me.
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onload hooks fire before imported scripts in Chrome. You could
try using jQuery's document ready instead of addOnloadHook() and see
if that works.
Instead of addOnloadHook( function() { code here } ); do $j( document
).ready( function() { code here } );
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that 1.4.2 breaks.
If you are the author of a user/site script or gadget, please do check
it for jQuery 1.4.2 compat just to be sure. If stuff breaks, feel free
to poke me on IRC and I'll help troubleshoot.
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[1] https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=25419
(instead of or
together with the name). Is there a simple way to do this?
http://en.wikipedia.org/w/api.php?action=querytitles=Active_Worldsgenerator=linksprop=info
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in some database table. The software can't find out what
the recommended definition is unless it understands English.
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locate it by myself, hence asking for help.
The software does not treat disambig pages specially. If you're really
just interested in the link targets, you can use prop=links to obtain
them like you would with any normal page.
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it.
I don't understand why this would be insulting, but whatever... These
people should file a bug in Bugzilla per the normal site request
procedure.
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I don't understand why this would be insulting, but whatever...
Following the causes.com link clarifies this: it's a Russian influence thing.
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our numbers first, but some preliminary
playing around seems to indicate Tim's right about this one.
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Colons get urlencoded but dashes are fine, so what about (and I know
I'm stealing this suggestion from /someone/, I just can't remember who
suggested it to me) 1985-04-12T10-15-30Z ?
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unminified (and uncombined) code.
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am not looking at the right place, please point me to
appropriate links.
There is no API call for this. The best you can do is obtain the
wikitext of the entire page and look for tables yourself.
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(If using memcached, be sure to clear those out, reinitialize, or otherwise
do something that forces old values to be cleared or ignored.)
$wgCacheEpoch is a good one for this. The easiest way to change it is
to touch LocalSettings.php.
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acceptable usage AFAIK,
but I do think that the Toolserver would better suit your needs.
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it, on WMF we stick
it in memcached, I believe). So unless there's some ridiculous
vulnerability allowing people to obtain the value of arbitrary keys in
$_SESSION, you should be fine AFAIK.
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SQL query buliding
methods but also the possibility to override the default printer? Why
these methods are limited to action=query lists and generators only?
That's a very good suggestion. Feel free to implement it or, if you
can't or don't want to, file a bug requesting it in Bugzilla.
Roan
2010/9/22 Roan Kattouw roan.katt...@gmail.com:
I understand that not every ApiBase derived class needs these, but many
could have. Why not make inheritance chain like this:
ApiBase - ApiListBase - ApiQueryBase
Actually, let's just put that stuff in ApiBase so every module can use
it easily
to ApiBase won't break any
other ApiBase subclasses. There is no advantage in creating a new
class over simply moving this stuff to ApiBase.
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2010/9/22 Dmitriy Sintsov ques...@rambler.ru:
2. I don't have core commit access only extension commit access, however
I don't feel like MW guru, so I don't even want to request it. I'll
probably file a bug.
You can submit patches on Bugzilla too :)
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2010/9/22 Dan Nessett dness...@yahoo.com:
How does memcached fit into this? When I looked at BagOStuff, I didn't
find a MemcacheBagOStuff class. Is it defined elsewhere?
Either memcached.php, MemCached.php or MWMemcached.php, I forget. The
class name is MWMemcached.
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again.
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to trunk, yes, and I think
that's a bad thing. Branching then freezing the branch to various
degrees is fine by me, but trunk should remain open to changes that
are neither insane nor necessarily very stable.
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is not valid in core either. Looks like Wikia either
hacked this in themselves or added it using an extension.
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engineering, mobile,
maybe more), Alolita Sharma (LiquidThreads, ResourceLoader, and more)
and Rob Lanphier (FlaggedRevs at least, don't know what else).
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the first 500 (or 5,000 if you're a bot or sysop) pages in the
main namespace that only sysops can edit (i.e. that are fully
protected). If you're not a privileged user and only get 500 entries,
you can use the information in the query-continue tag to get the next
500.
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view. As far as detection goes, the two are completely
separate problems: one requires a checksum to be added to the revision
table, the other requires the minor/bot flags to be added to that
table.
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Returns image URL, width, height and thumbnail URL for a 200px thumbnail.
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Licensing info is not available through the API because it's just some
text or template on the image description page; it has no meaning to
the MediaWiki software.
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I may or may not
get my wish).
It's true that the dumps situation is still a problem, but you (OP)
should assume some good faith here rather than accusing the WMF of
ignoring you, not earning the community's trust or even trying to
usurp Wikipedia. You're right, you are being paranoid.
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requiring people to
subscribe to Yet Another Mailing List.
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2010/9/9 Neil Kandalgaonkar ne...@wikimedia.org:
I need an open source irony detector.
Hint: it starts with this code:
if ( $name === 'domas' ) return true;
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guess we might as well save ourselves the trouble and load
them as wiki pages,
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support this better.
Or did you mean a hook into the client-side loader?
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definitely think this is the future, provided it's implemented
reliably cross-browser. Also, you'd probably want to have a fallback
library for browsers that have no or incomplete (e.g. missing a jQuery
feature that's newer than the browser) native support.
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it's
excessive for what it's supposed to be documenting (the interface to
.suggestions(), which takes 12 arguments of various types and with
various semantics, allowed values and default values).
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2010/9/5 Aryeh Gregor simetrical+wikil...@gmail.com:
On Fri, Sep 3, 2010 at 11:59 PM, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org
wrote:
Over the past couple of months, Roan Kattouw and I (Trevor Parscal) have
been working on a JavaScript and CSS delivery system called
ResourceLoader. We're really
? The ones you mentioned in this
post have either already been solved or are trivially solvable.
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(probably best to move stuff to the wikis anyway, though). We
often posted the Etherpad link to our usability progress meeting notes
in #wikipedia_usability , although to be fair that wasn't done with
transparency or non-staff involvement in mind.
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now?
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JS/CSS caching and Squid for text and image caching). From what I
understood and remember, the Varnish migration is not really a top
priority right now and is expected to be completed in a year or so. In
the meantime, we can make the mobile redirect suck slightly less.
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since it closely ties into one specific core feature.
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of JS and CSS we do (such as wrapping JS in a
mediaWiki.loader.implement() call, direction flipping in CSS and image
embedding in CSS) don't introduce or remove any lines, thereby
preserving line numbers.
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And I don't understand what this last paragraph is about :) You are
trying to reuse the same loader for all gadgets?
What I was saying is that when you use a custom registration script,
that script is responsible for providing the loader with all the
information
.
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arbitrary event that occurred in the past 5 years for everything
that's worse now than it was 5 years ago without backing up that
assertion with convincing arguments.
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[1] These numbers blow my mind every so often: when I started in July
2007 we were in the r26000s vs
and I will advocate for that to happen, but I don't think we
need to take things quite as far as you propose. So let's start by
getting the powers that be behind that idea and see if we can improve
the situation that way first.
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could have solved it that
would've happened long ago.
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that used to work on it are now working on other
tasks while still supporting the existing UsabilityInitiative / Vector
software and performing rollouts such as the one this week. Other such
project-specific mailing lists should preferably be public, yes.
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2010/8/18 陈文 chen...@lingpan.net:
Hi
How to retrieve TEXT without picture through the API ?
What exactly do you mean with text without picture? Wikitext without
images? HTML without images? Something else?
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2010/8/20 Huib Laurens sterke...@gmail.com:
All databases are localhost, and have the prefix mw_ and I'm sure all
databases contain a user table.
They contain an mw_user table, not a user table. You have to set the
prefix setting in $wgConf for all wikis.
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2010/8/23 Michael Walsh bluehairedlaw...@gmail.com:
Hi Chad,
Thanks for the quick response. Would it be possible to set a localised name?
AFAIK that only works per-language, not per-wiki, so that would cause
problems when e.g. enwiki and enwikinews use different models.
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or core access?
If and when you get commit access for extensions, you're encouraged to
develop your extension in our SVN repo.
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easier to obtain.
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hired (or partially hired).
People who do work for WMF also have this problem: they are generally
more up to speed, but they don't have complete knowledge either.
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personal conviction and I'm not aware of any
successful editors built this way.
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on a different box or NFS is involved
or whatever, I don't think the power outage could've caused this.
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no session or token cookies for enwiki.
What happens when you rerequest the token afterwards? Do you get the
same token or a different one?
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/apache/common-local/wmf-deployment/includes/db/LoadBalancer.php(685):
DatabaseBase-gt;reportConnectionError(\'Unkn', page u'[[fi:aero]]')
eh?
A database server went down today, and people using the UI were
getting the same error message. This has been fixed now.
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intending on reducing the number of requests made and on keeping the
long client-side cache expiry times (Cache-Control:
maxage=largenumber) that we already use.
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? In the latter
case, it taking long would make sense, and would actually be slowed
down by moving all script tags to the bottom (incidentally, that's
what I've done today in the resourceloader branch).
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it was outweighed by other factors; I
wasn't on the jury so I don't know the rationale for this decision.
For the record, from what I've seen so far I have high expectations
for Wikimania 2011, and the issues mentioned in this thread plus the
climate aside, I'm sure it's gonna be awesome.
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of a given category.
Neither goes multiple levels deep, though.
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more useful, as that'll return 'real' results), but I'm
guessing this stage is really just about the UI.
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) of that gap with editors that can accomplish other
simple-ish tasks.
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2010/8/9 Natasha Brown learnrussianspeakruss...@gmail.com:
It gave me
Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_ELSE, expecting T_FUNCTION in
/home/wikitra2/public_html/w/includes/SkinTemplate.php on line 894
Sounds like you have a missing } somewhere (or one too many).
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to this variable:
https://bugzilla.wikimedia.org/show_bug.cgi?id=18958
From reading that and the commits involved, it seems
$wgDisableLangConversion doesn't completely disable language
conversion, so that may need to be fixed first.
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. If this is not
possible, it can be put in a branch, but trunk would really be
preferred here, and disableability should be relatively easy to
accomplish.
Then when it's agreed that this should go on a prototype wiki, Ryan or
I will set up the wiki and configure it, and it'll be all yours.
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of purging. There's
no code for it yet, but I don't think it involves more than updating
page_touched in the remote DB and notifying Squid.
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and below. Simply grepping
the source for 'tar' would've shown that.
Interestingly, none of the ExtensionDistributor files have GPL
headers. This should probably be fixed.
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