This can be seen in NR B.3, but the C/F/G snippet (sourcefileline 782)
in NR 2.4.1. / Predefined fret diagrams is suitable for regression testing.
Starting with doc tarball version 2.12.1-2 the C/F/G diagrams have
neither their fingering nor their first frets aligned.
It is as if there were a
Eluze wrote:
looking at the example(s) (\sourcefileline 765 and following) in _notation
reference_ the finger indications seem to be on the same line and so do the
top fret lines (in the pdf and html version).
when i compile these examples the results look different and unbalanced:
I get
Chipwrote:
I want a multi-measure rest with no number on it.
This gets rid of the number:
mmrNoNum = \once \override MultiMeasureRestNumber #'stencil = ##f
as in:
\mmrNoNum R1*16
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Ed Ravin wrote:
I'm guessing the silent rest somehow makes the grace note silent?
I wanted a rest (for silence).
If you say just r32, lilypond gives you silence OK,
but also does the vertical positioning automatically,
so you can't adjust the slur any more.
\rest lets you do the vertical
Ed Ravin wrote:
Would the extra grace notes corrupt the MIDI output?
No.
But you can hear them, and you might think that inappropriate. :)
Try out this:
{ \once \override Rest #'transparent = ##t \grace b4\rest\( c8 g8 c8 \) | }
Cheers,
Robin
Stefan Thomas wrote:
Is there a possibilitie to avoid automatically this collision
The eyeglasses example in NR B.8.3.
uses the \with-dimensions command for this.
\with-dimensions #'(0 . 3.5) #'(0 . 4) for your case?
Cheers,
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Stefan Thomas wrote:
What does this \with-dimensions-command exactly do?
Is it explained in the manual?
It is mentioned right at the end of NR B.8.6.
I think that by dimensions you are meant to understand
the X-extent and Y-extent [1] of the markup that follows.
I suppose that if the
Well, \repeatTie doesn't take you very far into the ensuing phrase.
And it doesn't swoop properly.
A fairly easy way in this case is to add a hidden grace note:
{ \hideNotes \grace b16\( \unHideNotes c8 g8 c8 \) | }
And you can use the grace pitch to adjust the starting height.
This is
Simon Bailey wrote:
so basically that paragraph is telling me to NOT use
the manual repeat barlines and use \repeat volta instead.
The documentation uses a lot of different names for repeats.
When you say manual repeat barlines it sounds as though
you may not be distinguishing
- manual
Stefan Waler wrote:
I'm not able anymore to set a
manual shift for a note. Any workaround...?
I'm not sure what you want. How about this?
\once \override NoteColumn #'horizontal-shift = #-1
Cheers,
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A similar problem was discussed recently
http://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/lilypond-user/2009-01/msg00530.html
Cheers,
Robin
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Stefan Waler wrote:
\once \override NoteColumn #'horizontal-shift = #-1
As you can see, this is part of my score - but is has no effect.
Please reconsider.
There are two note-column-interface shifts; this is the other one.
And if this turns out to be more like what you are looking for,
Dmytro O. Redchuk wrote:
You probably can make slur transparent?
Or precede \grace with
\once \override Stem #'stroke-style = #grace
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Mark Polesky wrote:
... with an identifier:
.. which can be adapted to cope with a group of grace notes:
mygrace = #(define-music-function (parser location music) (ly:music?)
#{ \override Stem #'stroke-style = #grace \grace $music
\revert Stem #'stroke-style #})
N.B. - any
Grateful Frog wrote:
how to get that out in a midi file that plays properly,
and only the melody not the lyrics and chords?
You can get the midi output to do repeats,
but it won't know about the D.C.
So give it a helping hand by defining
myNotesDC = {
\repeat
Chip wrote:
How do I get a staff line to break when I am using \credenzaOn?
Insert a \bar command where you want to allow a line break
i.e.\bar (or \bar |)
I don't see any info on this in the manuals
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.12/Documentation/user/lilypond/Line-breaking
end of
Trevor Daniels wrote:
This is a known bug - see issue 40.
The workaround given there is:
\once \override Glissando #'gap = #0.5
\once \override Glissando #'extra-offset = #'(-0.5 . 0)
Hope that's good enough for you, as the bug priority is low!
I was going to try and answer this one,
Joe Mc Cool wrote:
Surely the repeat should play from
d4 d8 e d c.
What am I doing wrong ?
The \bar commands are only graphical.
They make it look, on paper, as if the repeat would start from d4.
But the repeat actually starts where you have placed the \repeat command.
Put the \repeat
Hallo. Me again, this time with a navbar suggestion.
The first time I saw the navbar it seemed rather indigestible -
so much text to read.
But I did understand that the square brackets were indicating buttons.
The second time was after visiting help, where I came to see that,
for me at
Patrick McCarty wrote:
I would greatly appreciate any feedback on the new color choices.
My quoted Yes please was to Blue in Green which really shouted at you.
This one is a lot more restrained but just as easy to read.
OK, the tocpane is not unified with the navbar in any way,
but I can
Richard Wattenbarger wrote:
the d-flat tie doesn't render in the upper voice
When you ask for tieWaitForNote like this, it gets turned on for the voice
and doesn't affect any other voices, e.g. a voice for the right hand.
The {} // {} construct needs two voices and sets up its own,
and
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
No! After all, you are already reading the documentation, so a link
to Documentation simply does not make sense.
I was visiting LM 4.6.1 this morning, reading about tweaking output,
and I wondered afterwards if, while there, I could have argued that
a link to
Francisco Vila wrote [Re: translated big pages]:
Additionally, would it be possible to internationalize
the Back To Documentation Index link?
Some usability comments, please, before this gets translated.
This is currently displayed as
Back to Documentation Index
_a___
I suppose
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
unless someone can come up with something better than ,
which also indicates a navigational element
But *you* did, some time ago! [Top][Contents][Index][ ? ]
All you need is the above. See it at
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
How about Overview instead of Index?
A better choice!
And I counter with Documentation Home.
But a second word is overkill.
Cheers,
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Some thoughts on searching.
Valentin Villenave wrote:
the search function should show the results in the main frame
on the right, without making the tocframe disappear
The toc pane and the main pane are a coherent unit.
The user refers to the toc to see e.g.
- what part of the document
It's fine having the language bar down at the bottom of a docs page.
But in the bigpage case
you've probably done a lot of reading before you reach it,
and wish you had seen it earlier.
So I suggest something like bighead.png:
I
Put an additional language bar at the top of bigpages.
Patrick McCarty wrote:
I've created another design with a color palette that passes the
W3C Web Content Accessibility guidelines for color contrast
Yes, yes, yes! Thank you very much.
At last I feel the web designer was more concerned about
making it easy to read rather than easy to look
Me answering Rheinhold:
The pale yellow/light brown would make the navbars almost invisible on TFT
screens, so I think the current state is much better.
...
So what/where is the current state?
Sorry, I got mixed up; I thought this meant the navbars would disappear.
But now I think it
Patrick McCarty wrote:
I agree with yours and Reinhold's idea to remove underlining and
visited link colors in the TOC pane. Should the same apply to the
main doc pane?
NAV BAR
What I said about TOC scanning doesn't apply here; there is no list.
There are probably two main sorts of
Kurt Kroon wrote:
the CSS quasi-frames already provide the affordance of a fixed navigation
frame, so it isn't necessary to make their backgrounds matchy-matchy.
I don't understand which background areas you are referring to.
By navigation bars I was referring to the horizontal stripes
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
This is always a good argument (similar things should look similar), however,
I think in our case we can afford to use a nicer color in the sidebar,
since it is already spacially separated from the contents (by having its own
column on the left).
I would turn this
Christian Keil wrote:
and what follows is ... only achieved with single angle brackets.
Using double brackets results in three staffs with the corresponding notes.
Try putting something up front, as in:
{ s4 c4 d4 e4 }
You have tripped up over one of those inconsistencies caused by
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
Am Montag, 22. September 2008 schrieb Robin Bannister:
So I propose
A
Replace the (passive) text Table of Contents in the TOC panel,
with the document title, e.g. Learning Manual.
This nearly always visible (on biggish screens).
(And when offscreen, near the end
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
so basically, you want ... a link to the back to the documentation index
No, I didn't mean that.
That is in your TODO, and not at all urgent for regular users.
Robin Bannister wrote:
This is because I regard B as just another entry in the TOC.
The TOC does
Patrick McCarty wrote:
Okay, see if this design looks better:
...
What do you think?
Well, I ought to be asleep.
But that hasn't worked out too well yet.
I realised I had messed up my last two posts (png uncompressed)
and got back online to patch things up a bit.
What do you think?
In the (latest) docs (both online and download)
I see no navigation menu bars.
These were present in 2.11.60.
And you can see them at kainhofer.com (pre 2.11.62).
Cheers,
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And for your second question:
B.
Wha I can make a different size of staff? Upper bigest
look for Changing the staff size in
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/input/lsr/lilypond-snippets/Staff-notation
Cheers,
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In the (latest) online docs
there are three examples [1]
- typography-demo
- wilhelmus
- bach-schenker
where the png link is wrong.
My IE6 gets given the midi file instead of the picture.
The download 2.11.60-1 documentation seems OK.
[1]http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.11/examples
Cheers,
I like the comprehensive navigation of the new layout [1],
but feel there is still something missing.
__
Say I am reading the mailing list, looking at a thread or message.
I see something which gets me thinking about a
Sebastian Menge wrote:
But then the second part starts a new staff. How can I prevent that?
One way would be to have just one part,
which starts all three things together (like your second part)
and then make the lyrics skip the intro bars.
To see how, search (twice) for Skips in lyric
Graham Percival wrote:
This would simply the docs (particularly LSR stuff), bug reports,
and the like. On initial review, I can't see any downside[1]. Joe,
would this be easy to add? Can you see any downsides to this?
[1] provided that the docs are clear about this and mention that the
Stefan Thomas wrote:
why in the below quoted example the tuplet bracket is hidden?
But in the example you supplied, both tuplet brackets are visible [1].
Did you test your example before posting?
However,
the tuplet brackets get shorter as additional measures are added.
If enough measures
One way to keep it longer would be to make the tuplet contents wider,
Another way, illustrated in the LSR [1], is easier to apply:
\once \set tupletFullLength = ##t
[1] http://lsr.dsi.unimi.it/LSR/Item?id=398
Cheers,
Robin
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Michael Phillips wrote:
Thanks for your input
You're welcome.
It was pretty much a wild guess; there was so little to go on.
And I've never used Lilypad.
there is very little unimportant content I can remove.
Certainly, no music notes
There is another way to reduce the file size
jo.clarinet wrote:
do padding of some sort -
either to get just the relevant bar numbers moved up a little
(but NOT the rest of them)
Follow the reference to BarNumber in the Notation Reference [1] index.
This talks mostly about moving sideways (using self-alignment-X).
But you probably
T Högvall wrote:
I did attempt to put in the real instruments then,
by including lines like
\set Staff.midiInstrument = #clarinet
in the score section
...
What am I missing?
Either A or B.
A:
In the score section you have put your \set command
between one \new Staff block and the next.
Michae Phillips wrote:
Is there a reason why entering notes in a score is suddenly stopped?
Well, I had a hunch and followed it up.
Lilypad handles up to 3 bytes and no more. [1]
Maybe you are using Lilypad and your file has become too large for it.
By way of explanation:
When you
Cath Downie wrote:
I'd be grateful if anyone could advise me on what I'm doing wrong.
These other things you tried don't belong in \layout.
Look at the Notation Reference [1]
In 4.2.2. the \layout and \paper blocks are contrasted.
You will find the things you tried in 4.1.2,
where it is
Grammostola Rosea wrote
I think I can use this for bends:
http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.9/Documentation/user/lilypond/Falls-and-doits
This 2.9 page doesn't say very much, does it?
Have a look in the 2.11 docs for a bit more.
(You seem to be using 2.11 anyway.)
Cheers,
Robin
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
Question 2) still remains
There will be other problems like this in the bars to come,
each needing a special effort to overcome,
usually in an unsatisfactory way.
This is because you are trying to put overlapping durations into a single voice.
Try starting
If you change the pitch of one of the notes of a correctly tied pair,
but forget to delete the tilde
A: the graphic output looks ok (pitch changed, curve removed)
B: there is no warning
C: midi is messed up
I have got used to the A/B behaviour (B is annoying, but A makes it harmless).
Now I
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
there are not ties between the gis b and gis b
To get ties between
gis b and gis b
you must put a squiggle between them,
( like you did between a, and a, cis' a ).
This then looks like:
gis b ~ gis b
the a is now connected to the e which is wrong
You are using
Grammostola Rosea wrote:
1) You see the last two low a's (a,) doesn't have an tie. I like to
have one between them. I can't connect them with ~ cause there are
other notes between the two a's (e.g. gis and b).
...
Ok, I think I solved problem 1 for 90%
...
a,8~a, cis'4. a,4 (gis b8 ~ a, gis
2.10.33 on XP SP3
Valentin Villenave wrote
they invariably mistake the note icon
for an *application* icon,
although it's actually a *document* icon.
A contributing factor might be that
Lilypond doesn't (seem to) supply a text
of any sort for its document type.
This then defaults to LY
James E. Bailey wrote
open the pdf in a web [b]rowser ... and then just refresh the page.
Yes, a copy (like viewer.pdf) would then be held in the browser's cache.
I have the pdf add-on disabled because it obstructs my browsing habits.
But I tried this out just to see how it felt (using AR8
2.10.33 on Win XP SP3
I started using XP for Lilypond work about half a year ago,
leaving behind 2.8.6. on Win98, where I had had Adobe Reader for
viewing pdf output.
I thought being on XP might offer the chance of finding a viewer
which didn't get in the way of Lilypond generating its pdf.
Trevor Daniels wrote
? I don't understand.
\tempo 4.=60
works fine in the \score block.
Sorry.
For early read prehistoric, I suppose.
Because [1] worked, I never needed to do anything differently.
And convert-ly.py (2.10.33) now removes \tempo from my files.
[1]
Hallo again!
At the end of LM 3.3.2. there is the caution:
Note the distinction between the name of the context type, Staff, Voice, etc,
and the identifying name of a particular instance of that type ...
Well, I can manage that, I think.
Because when I'm looking at the snippets,
these names
Trevor Daniels wrote
I learned you can have digits in context names! --- as long as the
names are in quotation marks.
which I regard as slightly more confirmation of my fragile suspicion that
in (the current GDP) Learning Manual 3.1.1 - In summary
there shouldn't be a backslash in front of
Trevor Daniels wrote
Thanks, Robin
Well, you're welcome. Glad to be of some use.
But also disappointed,
because I thought I had understood something (from reading the manual!),
and now it seems I hadn't.
Statistics for NR (pdf dated 2008-08-09, only slightly stale):
A: 21 hits for
Robin Bannister wrote
A: 21 hits for \context Staff
B: 14 hits for \context { \Staff
I think I get it now.
It must be that \context is overloaded,
does two quite different things.
Upon meeting a \context you must categorise it as A or B.
The uninitiated attach no particular
There are a few places in the NR (version 2008-08-09)
still mentioning
- program reference
- programmer's reference
i.e. terms obsoleted by GDP.
And in NR 5.2.1 it says
This section will be much more difficult to understand
if you are using the PDF manual.
Did / does / will this exist?
Trevor Daniels wrote
You don't say where these are, but I suspect they are
still in sections not yet completed within GDP, ie
sections 3 onward.
NR sections 5.2.1 to 5.7.1
but I can't see a mention of the PDF version.
Well, er - I was using the PDF version (easier for me to search)
It
But could someone please tell me, where I can find this file
For (a default installation on) Windows (de), I suggest
C:\Programme\LilyPond\usr\share\lilypond\current\ly\drumpitch-init.ly
Cheers,
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Graham Percival wrote on -dev
Well, the fact is that most users don't seem interested in
helping with the docs, even to the extent of reading them. :|
I had my first contact with Lilypond over two years ago (2.6.5 on win98).
I was extremely confused before I could get it to compile
I've already had a look at the first few pages of the LM
and this time I'm going to start on it properly.
So I'm back at the web page for the docs. [see webdoc.png]
I click on it's Learning Manual (LM) link -
the one saying (start here) - and then again on
Tutorial: A tutorial
Graham Percival wrote:
If you look at the latest docs using texi2html, this has already
been dealt with:
http://kainhofer.com/~lilypond/texi2html-out/Documentation/index.html
Well, well, thank you very much.
Robin Bannister had written:
Two further points:
- The tree version will benefit
David Biddiscombe wrote on the bug list:
Below is an input file representing small parts of a file for a four-verse
song.
The rhythm of the fourth verse, which differs from that of the other verses,
is
shown in the .pdf file by the small notes above the top staff, except that
the
two
Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
All the choral scores that I have seen put the pickup note before the |: and
use whole measures for the voltas (like in the attached example).
Patrick Horgan wrote:
What else are you going to do if there's a pickup note
and the 2nd ending goes on? You can
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