[Wikimedia-l] Re: Outcomes from the March Meeting for the Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

On Thu, Mar 28, 2024 at 1:51 PM Samuel Klein wrote: > I wanted to clarify that it is not 3% of all donors that go on to make an >> unreverted edit. All donors are directed to a “Thank You” page after their >> donations, which includes several calls-to-action. This year, we included >> a call

[Xmldatadumps-l] Re: [Wikitech-l] Re: Wiki content and other dumps new ownership, feedback requested on new version!

+1 to Dan. Ariel thank you for so many years of doing this essential work. On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 4:14 AM Dan Andreescu wrote: > Ariel, your dedication to dumps has always been an inspiration to me, both > in how you handled the technology and how you fused that with your care for > the ideas

[Wikitech-l] Re: Wiki content and other dumps new ownership, feedback requested on new version!

+1 to Dan. Ariel thank you for so many years of doing this essential work. On Thu, Sep 28, 2023 at 4:14 AM Dan Andreescu wrote: > Ariel, your dedication to dumps has always been an inspiration to me, both > in how you handled the technology and how you fused that with your care for > the ideas

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Launch of Justapedia

On Sun, Sep 17, 2023 at 4:04 PM James Heilman wrote: > There are Wikis that have "succeeded" with IP editing turned off with > some being WikEM and Eyewiki > > Additionally PT Wikipedia banned IP editing in 2020 > >

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

d their own >> community of mentors, alums, and practitioners!) would be wonderful. >> Their impact per unit of funding seems, at very casual inspection, well >> ahead of all comparable initiatives. And we could even fund them directly, >> who have often helped us in turn.

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

> But it?s the different from what you started the discussion with where >> you were saying ?we all should want?. >> >> I want us to make things that move the needle regarding knowledge equity >> and that probably require outside of the projects programs. >> >> As to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

e projects. The problem is that none of these things are what donors believe they are funding when they give us $5 from a banner on Wikipedia asking them to support the projects. > > On Aug 16, 2023, at 8:36 AM, Steven Walling > wrote: > > ? > This is really really disappointing to

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Sharing an update on the Wikimedia Foundation Knowledge Equity Fund’s grantees

This is really really disappointing to see. The lessons noted in the blog post totally miss the point as to why the Wikimedia community has objected to Knowledge Equity Fund. The issue is not community oversight via committees or visibility into the work. It’s that the work had no demonstrable

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Wikianswers Proposal

We don’t really need to test the idea that people want to ask factual questions in natural language. The question is: what’s the best way to serve people who want to ask a normal human question and get an answer? The definitive truth is that people want to search this way in the same place they

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

On Sat, Mar 18, 2023 at 3:49 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > On Fri, Mar 17, 2023 at 7:05 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > > > IANAL of course, but to me this implies that responsibility for the > *egregious* lack > > of attribution in models that rely substantially on

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

ca-lora> >> >> >> 3.) 8,4,3 bit-quantization of model for reduced hardware requirements >> >>- Running LLaMA 7B and 13B on a 64GB M2 MacBook Pro with llama.cpp >><https://til.simonwillison.net/llms/llama-7b-m2> >>- Github: bloomz.cpp

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Bing-ChatGPT

On Sun, Mar 5, 2023 at 8:39 PM Luis (lu.is) wrote: > On Feb 22, 2023 at 9:28 AM -0800, Sage Ross , > wrote: > > Luis, > > OpenAI researchers have released some info about data sources that > trained GPT-3 (and hence ChatGPT): https://arxiv.org/abs/2005.14165 > > See section 2.2, starting on page

[Wikitech-l] Re: Book creation

On Feb 15, 2023 at 3:45:23 PM, Samuel Klein wrote: > I ran across another reference to our lovely, important book creation > tools of yore, on a global Open Education forum > > . > > What is the best place to discuss

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

On Fri, Feb 3, 2023 at 9:47 PM Gergő Tisza wrote: > Just to give a sense of scale: OpenAI started with a $1 billion donation, > got another $1B as investment, and is now getting a larger investment from > Microsoft (undisclosed but rumored to be $10B). Assuming they spent most of > their

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Chat GPT

On Thu, Dec 29, 2022 at 4:09 PM Victoria Coleman < vstavridoucole...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi everyone. I have seen some of the reactions to the narratives generated > by Chat GPT. There is an obvious question (to me at least) as to whether a > Wikipedia chat bot would be a legitimate UI for some

[Wikimedia-l] Re: WMF financial statements for 2021-2022 published

On Wed, Nov 9, 2022 at 10:37 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Dear WMF Finance staff, > > I inquired over a week ago on Meta-Wiki why the WMF is reporting a > negative investment income (–$12 million). There has been no answer to > date.[1] > > I am a layperson, but how can an investment income be

[Wikipedia Library] Re: Edit requirements for access

enegotiating) contractual agreements with partners is why we have staffed partnerships and legal teams at the Wikimedia Foundation. There are people we pay with donor funds to do nothing but this. > On Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 5:55 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > >> >> >> On

[Wikipedia Library] Re: Edit requirements for access

ccess their resources, a low bar for some 57,000 >> editors. >> >> Paul >> >> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 11:48 AM Steven Walling >> wrote: >> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Jul 28, 2022 at 3:37 AM Sam Walton >>> wrote: >>>

[Wikipedia Library] Re: Edit requirements for access

the right one. I would say that if our >> mission is to give everyone on the planet free access to the sum of all >> knowledge, we need to treat it like a resource that's available to anyone >> who wants to make a good faith effort to create and edit articles. The bar >>

[Wikipedia Library] Re: Edit requirements for access

you don't use it. (Do we do that already? Pardon my ignorance here.) > > _ > Jessamyn West > User:Jessamyn > box 345, randolph vt 05060 > > On Wed, Jul 27, 2022 at 4:26 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > > > > I wanted to start a discussion on lowering the threshold for access. &

[Wikipedia Library] Edit requirements for access

I wanted to start a discussion on lowering the threshold for access. Very very very few people qualify for the current requirements of 500+ edits, 6+ months editing, 10+ edits in the last month, and no active blocks. In fact basically this excludes any new editor no matter how good faith and

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

kin and do the math: how much > collective time are we going to spend on this? > > Best, > Lodewijk > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:12 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:35 PM Nathan wrote: >> >>> >>> &g

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 4:35 PM Nathan wrote: > > > On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 5:38 PM Steven Walling > wrote: > >> >> >> On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM Evelin Heidel >> wrote: >> >>> +1 to this, my perception is that we're wasting a lot of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Simplifying governance processes

On Thu, May 19, 2022 at 10:27 AM Evelin Heidel wrote: > +1 to this, my perception is that we're wasting a lot of volunteer's + > staff time + resources into complex governance processes without clear > results. In theory, the reason why you want this much transparency & > process is to make sure

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

On Sat, Apr 30, 2022 at 12:37 AM effe iets anders wrote: > Hi Danny, > > this is great thinking. There's one more angle that I'd like to offer, but > it would come with plenty of risks and downsides, so I'm not sure if it is > actually viable (I guess it falls in the 'mitigate harm' category).

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 5:24 PM Risker wrote: > > I'm less concerned about the "protected page" issue raised by SJ. There > are generally good reasons why those pages are protected. They have either > been the long- or short-term target of repeated vandalism (e.g., > biographical articles of

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Open proxies and IP blocking

On Wed, Apr 20, 2022 at 1:04 PM Benjamin Ikuta wrote: > > > I've always thought this justification fraught with bias. > > Vandalism is highly visible: you can point to it and say it's a problem. > And it's true! > > But the *lack* of contributions is of course, by nature, invisible. > This 100%

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Give WMF feedback on model cards

On Thu, Mar 17, 2022 at 3:50 PM Hal Triedman wrote: > Hi all, > > The WMF Privacy and Machine Learning Platform teams are developing model > cards to increase visibility, transparency, and accountability of > algorithmic decision-making on WMF platforms. The broad goal is for every > ML model

[Wikimedia-l] Re: The Wikipedia Library: Accessing free reliable sources is now easier than ever

+1 to The Cunctator, this is wonderful. I used it thanks to the invite notification you sent to eligible users and it was super fast to get going. Kudos! On Wed, Jan 19, 2022 at 12:20 PM The Cunctator wrote: > This is really well done. One suggestion that's probably already been made > and may

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Luis Bitencourt-Emilio Joins Wikimedia Foundation Board of Trustees

On Thu, Jan 13, 2022 at 7:40 AM Guettarda wrote: > Crypto + NFTs + {tech startup + disrupt + housing market} sounds like > *just* the kind of person WMF needs on its board! > > Luis Bitencourt-Emilio might be a great person, and just who we need on > the Board right now, but the optics seem

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Welcoming the new Wikimedia Foundation CEO

On Tue, Sep 14, 2021 at 11:30 AM Andreas Kolbe wrote: > Hi Maryana, > > Welcome, great opening letter. > > You mention that you want to do some of your own volunteer editing in the > months before you officially start, which is great. > > Here is an idea: between now and then, tell absolutely no

[Wikimedia-l] Re: Paid editing dashboard and metrics?

Given that it’s completely trivial to make new pseudonymous accounts how would you propose even remotely accurate data collection to measure paid editing? If we are worried about the impact of paid editors on the integrity of content, we are much better served investing even more in efforts to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution about the upcoming Board elections

On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 12:47 PM Erik Moeller wrote: > On Sun, Apr 25, 2021 at 10:35 AM Steven Walling > wrote: > > So I don’t think your point is the highest priority item compared to > deciding the > > election / appointment for all the rest of the seats. > > I agre

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Resolution about the upcoming Board elections

On Fri, Apr 23, 2021 at 4:24 PM Luis Villa wrote: > This looks like a very thoughtful start on a very thorny problem, well > done. > > Given that we’re trying to diversify the board, and that Jimmy has > recently criticized FSF for having lifetime board appointments for > founders,* I was

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

necessary, although other chapters aren’t as > > technologically developed as I’d have liked to have seen. > > > > Thanks, > > Mike > > > > > On 30 Sep 2020, at 19:35, Steven Walling > > wrote: > > > > > > SJ hinted at a related problem w

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Moving the technical infrastructure out of the US

SJ hinted at a related problem which is that we'd also need a backup organizational structure to run things operationally and legally. If the US becomes so politically unstable that hosting Wikimedia data is under threat there, just moving the data would not be enough. You'd also have to include a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Logging everyone out

Good to know it was so few people. Thanks for your diligence as always. On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:57 PM Tim Starling wrote: > On 26/6/20 3:26 pm, Steven Walling wrote: > > Thanks Tim, > > > > 1. Does “saw the site” mean users actually had full or partial access to >

Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] [Wikitech-l] Logging everyone out

Thanks Tim, 1. Does “saw the site” mean users actually had full or partial access to the accounts of other users, or simply were viewing a cached version of the site that appeared as if they were logged in as someone else? How many users were impacted? 2. Does the WMF hold incident review

Re: [Wikitech-l] Logging everyone out

Thanks Tim, 1. Does “saw the site” mean users actually had full or partial access to the accounts of other users, or simply were viewing a cached version of the site that appeared as if they were logged in as someone else? How many users were impacted? 2. Does the WMF hold incident review

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Summary of the Brand Project presentation

I can't believe I'm saying this but I agree with Fæ as well. Having been on the inside at some companies that underwent controversial rebrands, I can see how this might be a very early stage thing to help guide and shape thinking about how to approach a rebrand by unifying around a high level

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Partial blocks update

On Thu, Sep 19, 2019 at 5:09 PM Sydney Poore wrote: > Hello all, > > The Wikimedia Foundation Anti-Harassment Tools team is wrapping up > improvements > to Special:Block that added the ability to set a Partial block > < >

Re: [Wikimedia-l] America may go bizarro, but Wikipedia has a choice to make

Great question to think about for our long term sustainability. I think we already have a universal "plan B" however? It's providing all content under free licenses and regularly distributing complete dumps of our content. Many larger and more well-funded technology organizations (Google,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Please comment on the draft consultation for splitting the admin role

I'm definitely supportive of greater security for sitewide JS/CSS, but Bart's proposal is an interesting one. (Sorry for top posting, on mobile) What if we required review of edits to JS/CSS in the MediaWiki namespace (not in other namespaces), ala pending changes or something similar? We require

Re: [Wikitech-l] Wikistats gets a facelift - Alpha Launch of Wikistats 2

This is an amazing improvement. Great work! On Thu, Dec 14, 2017 at 12:41 PM zppix e wrote: > Great Work I love the design. Can't wait for finished product! > > -- > Zppix > Volunteer Wikimedia Developer > Volunteer Wikimedia GCI2017 Mentor > enwp.org/User:Zppix >

Re: [Wikitech-l] ResistanceManual.org looking for co-maintainers

Dear Brad, Yes. On Mon, Jan 30, 2017 at 6:42 AM Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > On Sun, Jan 29, 2017 at 6:38 PM, Ori Livneh wrote: > > > Resistance Manual < > https://www.resistancemanual.org/Resistance_Manual_Home > > > > > is a guide for organizing

Re: [Wikitech-l] Changes in colors of user interface

Pine, please chill for once. On Fri, Dec 9, 2016 at 5:40 PM Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > On 12/09/2016 05:25 PM, Pine W wrote: > > While I appreciate the attempt to be funny, I am not amused in this case. > > Surprise UI changes could, for example, result in thousands of

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Apple Pay donations

> > And thanks, Amir, for selecting us for Amazon Smile! > > Best, > > Lisa Gruwell > > On Tue, Nov 15, 2016 at 4:06 AM, Antoine Musso <hashar+...@free.fr> wrote: > > > On 15/11/16 02:12, Steven Walling wrote: > > > > > >> Given th

[Wikimedia-l] Apple Pay donations

Hey all, Today Apple announced a bunch of 501(c)3 partners which now can use Apple Pay to make instant donations. Announcement at: http://www.apple.com/newsroom/2016/11/a-touch-of-giving-with-apple-pay.html Does WMF fundraising have plans to integrate with Apple Pay, especially on mobile

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikitech-ambassadors] Opening the door to a new look...a Wikipedia.org Portal Page Update

On Tue, Aug 16, 2016 at 9:39 AM Anne Gomez wrote: > Congrats portal team! Very cool to look at both the new and the old side by > side - the visual design is much cleaner, but more than that the > improvements to clarifying flows for the user is remarkable. > > I

Re: [Wikimedia-l] With my thanks to everyone ...

Congrats on the new role Geoff, and thank you so much for your leadership over the last half-decade. You have been a huge asset to the movement, and will be sorely missed. On Wed, Jul 13, 2016 at 3:29 PM Olatunde Isaac wrote: > Thanks for your impeccable service,

Re: [Wikitech-l] Campaigns extension / ServerSideAccountCreation log - does anyone still use it?

Hey Brad, That sounds fine to me. We previously used the loginCTA campaign to measure the value of that secondary button on the login page ( ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwiki_campaigns) but it doesn't need to happen on an ongoing basis. On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:31 AM Brad Jorsch (Anomie)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] [Wikitech-l] Campaigns extension / ServerSideAccountCreation log - does anyone still use it?

Hey Brad, That sounds fine to me. We previously used the loginCTA campaign to measure the value of that secondary button on the login page ( ee-dashboard.wmflabs.org/graphs/enwiki_campaigns) but it doesn't need to happen on an ongoing basis. On Tue, May 31, 2016 at 11:31 AM Brad Jorsch (Anomie)

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Fwd: [WikimediaMobile] "Among mobile sites, Wikipedia reigns in terms of popularity"

It's really great to see Wikipedia highlighted as a source for news and current events. It's rare that people fully recognize the degree to which the "encyclopedia" is actually very good at trending news information. That said, the report paints a rosy picture that, strategically speaking, may not

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Thank you, Jan-Bart and Stu

Thanks for starting this thread Lodewijk. Jan-Bart and Stu: Wikimedia has been lucky to have your participation over these years. Stu, thank you in particular for helping steer the financial governance of the Wikimedia movement. Your expertise and professionalism have been deeply important to

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement about changes to the Board

Pine, Given that the way James and the Board should relate to staff was one issue that lead to his removal, the situation in the wider WMF as an organization is highly relevant here. Under normal, smoothly-functioning circumstances (and most of my 4 year tenure at WMF) there was little reason

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Revision scoring as a service launched

This is really cool! Congrats to everyone who worked on this. On Mon, Nov 30, 2015 at 7:51 PM Dario Taraborelli < dtarabore...@wikimedia.org> wrote: > (cross-posting from wikitech-l) > > Today we published an announcement on the Wikimedia blog marking the > official launch of revision scoring as

Re: [Wikimedia-l] internet-in-a-boxs to the refugee camps?

Offline access is a nice idea, but the logistics of delivery seem daunting. Thankfully, a large number of refugees and migrants have smartphones.[1] Probably the biggest ways we could help refugees are really to: A) make Wikipedia super performant on mobile, particularly for low-end Android

Re: [Wikitech-l] QA: Holding our code to better standards.

Just to hop on the bandwagon here: this seems like the only sane path going forward. One unmentioned benefit is that this is a step toward continuous deployment. Having integration tests run on every commit and then block when there are failures is pretty much a requirement if Wikimedia ever wants

Re: [Wikitech-l] Code of conduct

On Fri, Aug 7, 2015 at 7:32 AM MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Matthew Flaschen wrote: We're in the process of developing a code of conduct for technical spaces. This will be binding, and apply to all Wikimedia-related technical spaces (including but not limited to MediaWiki.org,

Re: [Design] Winter

Having been away from WMF engineering and design for almost a year, I'd like to reiterate how what Ryan is outlining is not some bold outlandish idea. In fact, it's standard operating procedure for how the top tier of product development is done at every non-enterprise software company worth a

Re: [Wikitech-l] Search engine indexing of userspace - has something changed?

FWIW I have also seen many cases of userspace drafts being indexed. Perhaps something to do with the fact that they are always subpages? On Mon, Jul 6, 2015 at 10:35 AM Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com wrote: Looks like a bug Looking closely this meta tag is present in user pages: meta

[Wikitech-l] MediaWiki, as seen on TV

There's a pretty hilarious American police procedural TV show in 2015 called CSI: Cyber, featuring mostly cybercrime. Obviously they have to dredge up snippets of code from places for screenshots on the show. Episode 4 happened to include a tidbit from MediaWiki 1.25/wmf3. Supposedly the code was

Re: [Analytics] [EE] Facebook edit button for Wikipedia

The edit link has been there for a long time. On Fri, May 8, 2015 at 6:11 PM Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Quite possibly. I'm only on Facebook occasionally. Still, I haven't heard of WMF tracking FB content views or edits that come through FB. Perhaps there are opportunities here. Pine

Re: [Mediawiki-i18n] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

-Wikimedia-l Amir, this is awesome. Glad to see it's taking off. On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:24 AM Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: * In all the Wikipedias in which ContentTranslation is deployed, it is currently defined as a Beta feature, which means that it is only

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wikimedia-l] ContentTranslation gets to 2000

-Wikimedia-l Amir, this is awesome. Glad to see it's taking off. On Thu, Apr 30, 2015 at 6:24 AM Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: * In all the Wikipedias in which ContentTranslation is deployed, it is currently defined as a Beta feature, which means that it is only

Re: [Wikimedia-l] WMF office location and remodel

On Tue, Apr 7, 2015 at 9:58 PM Pine W wiki.p...@gmail.com wrote: Questions: What happens to the remodel expenses that WMF is paying for at its current location? If WMF vacates the premesis, will it be compensated for the remodel by the building owner? I hope that WMF is contemplating fully

Re: [Wikitech-l] Extension:Gather launching on beta for English WP mobile users.

Thanks for the link Jon. It seems only fair that people actually try the feature before ripping it to shreds. Right? We've had extensions to create alternative content curation features in the past, such as books, and this is hardly the first time an experimental feature was launched on mobile

Re: [Wikitech-l] [Wmfall] VisualEditor on Wikipedia now faster with RESTBase

Nice work! This is big. On Thu, Mar 19, 2015 at 3:08 PM Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Fantastic work! :) VisualEditor is becoming really zippy -- which had been one of the top concerns in user feedback in the past. Congratulations to everyone involved. Erik -- Erik Möller VP of

Re: [Design] a new free font project

Yes, the people working on Flow have mastered wiki text talk pages. One of the engineers is User:Superm401, an admin on enwiki, and the product manager is Danny Horn, who has been a regular MediaWiki user for years. As a meta point, you don't actually need to be a hardcore power user of any

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Announcement: WMF to file suit against the NSA

On Fri, Mar 13, 2015 at 7:00 AM Andreas Kolbe jayen...@gmail.com wrote: Steven Walling has written an interesting answer on Quora about one aspect of the New York Times op-ed, i.e. the threat NSA surveillance supposedly poses to Wikipedians living under oppressive regimes: https

[Design] Wikiwand iOS app released

The CEO announced on Quora ;-) http://qr.ae/jFd21 ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design

Re: [Wikitech-l] S Page debuts as Technical Writer

Congrats S! You'll do great at this and MediaWiki sure needs your help. On Mon, Jan 5, 2015 at 3:59 PM Subramanya Sastry ssas...@wikimedia.org wrote: On 01/05/2015 04:06 PM, Quim Gil wrote: It is an honor to announce that S Page[1] has moved from the Collaboration (Flow) team to join the

[Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

I just noticed a disturbing trend on Commons that highlights a general issue with its use as the media repository for our projects. I recently had an image nominated for deletion under Commons policy against photos of packaging: https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Commons:PACKAGING. It was of some

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

. There's nothing more to say. Russavia On Fri, Dec 12, 2014 at 12:40 AM, Steven Walling steven.wall...@gmail.com wrote: I just noticed a disturbing trend on Commons that highlights a general issue with its use as the media repository for our projects. I recently had an image nominated

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Commons copyright extremism

On Thu Dec 11 2014 at 12:40:09 PM Pipo Le Clown plecl...@gmail.com wrote: I'm on the road every two weekends, and processing pictures the rest of the time on my free time. I've provided around 8000 pictures to Commons, and helped to have pictures for articles like Cristiano Ronaldo, Roy

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

MZ: you mean removing just for account creation right? There is also a CAPTCHA delivered on external link addition for some editors–I think IPs and users not autoconfirmed. This is probably a lot more important for combating spam. (Sorry for top posting. On my phone.) On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 8:03

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

On Wed Dec 03 2014 at 8:57:38 PM MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: Steven Walling wrote: MZ: you mean removing just for account creation right? There is also a CAPTCHA delivered on external link addition for some editors–I think IPs and users not autoconfirmed. This is probably a lot more

Re: [Wikimedia-SF] WikiCheese California

I'm definitely in. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 9:49 PM Stephen LaPorte stephen.lapo...@gmail.com wrote: Hey Frank, This is an awesome idea! I'm interested. On Mon, Dec 1, 2014 at 6:30 PM, Frank Schulenburg fr...@wikiphotographer.net wrote: Hi all, I was wondering whether anyone here would

Re: [Wikitech-l] Our CAPTCHA is very unfriendly

On Fri, Nov 7, 2014 at 2:19 PM, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: I think that's unfair. Wikis have a serious spam problem. People associate CAPTCHAs with spam prevention. On the English Wikipedia, one of the actions that results in the user being required to successfully enter a CAPTCHA

Re: [Wikimedia-l] thank vs. like

On Sun Oct 26 2014 at 12:45:55 PM Amir E. Aharoni amir.ahar...@mail.huji.ac.il wrote: In the Hebrew Wikipedia there's a discussion about the Thanks feature, which raises the following confusion among other things: Why does the person who is sending the thank-you gets a message saying $1 was

Re: [Wikitech-l] Looking for project status updates

On Thu, Oct 23, 2014 at 12:27 AM, Erik Moeller e...@wikimedia.org wrote: Yes, the Growth team was disbanded, and the engineers working on this team are now supporting Mobile (Rob Moen, Sam Smith) and Flow (Matt Flaschen). We'll be updating wiki pages as we go, but help is welcome. Meta,

Re: [Analytics] LinkedIn Samza Use

the wheel. /troll -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Analytics mailing list Analytics@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/analytics

Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Task recommendations for new editors

them. Thanks for your email, -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Wikitech-ambassadors mailing list Wikitech-ambassadors@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/wikitech-ambassadors

Re: [Translators-l] GettingStarted extension

%3AMessageGroupStatsx=Dgroup=ext-gettingstartedsuppressempty=1language= -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Translators-l mailing list Translators-l@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/translators-l

Re: [Wikitech-ambassadors] Task recommendations for new editors

On Thu, Sep 4, 2014 at 6:12 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org wrote: This is a quick notice and a call for help from translators: likely next week, we'll be launching a new experiment aimed at helping newly-registered editors, called task recommendations. You can check out the UI

Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the default

to focus on getting those through - are there any teams currently needing these or is this likely to be a 20% type project? Rather than restyle more elements, let's just reduce scope rather than cause creep. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Endless drama around solutions to non-problems as misdirection

On Sat, Sep 6, 2014 at 1:54 AM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Steven Walling wrote: ... We practically can't and don't take on initiatives that directly try to provide more free time or money to editors That is absolutely false. Individual Engagement Grants have recently

Re: [Design] Getting $wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true to be the default

enough on the UX side to more seriously request Jared is pushing them to Bugzilla. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo

Re: [Wikimedia-l] Next steps regarding WMF-community disputes about deployments

On Fri, Sep 5, 2014 at 1:48 PM, John Mark Vandenberg jay...@gmail.com wrote: IMO the WMF should stop focusing on English Wikipedia as a target deploy site, and stop allowing its product management team and WMF staff in general to be salesman for it - it is scaring the community that all WMF

[Wikitech-ambassadors] Task recommendations for new editors

on Translatewiki, then it would be great to keep an eye out for untranslated strings coming soon in the GettingStarted extension. If you're curious about how the recommendations are generated or anything else, let me know. :) Thanks, -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org

Re: [Design] Praise for the mobile site

] [1] https://gerrit.wikimedia.org/r/#/c/118037/7/includes/MobileFrontend.hooks.php On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:46 PM, Steven Walling swall...@wikimedia.org javascript:_e(%7B%7D,'cvml','swall...@wikimedia.org'); wrote: On Tue, Aug 26, 2014 at 4:41 PM, Jon Robson jdlrob...@gmail.com

Re: [Design] MediaWiki UI Forms

the minimum viable release for updating Preferences to match mw.ui styles. This will provide the most benefit with the least effort. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https

Re: [Design] MediaWiki UI Forms

]* (mw.constructive.normal) Whether we change to follow this pattern needs to validated with users before we attempt to standardize on it. If we're going to completely flip the order of our actions on forms then we need to demonstrate that it's worth it. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https

Re: [Analytics] pitching the Gender Edit Dashboard

. It's documented at https://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Research:Gender_micro-survey Frankly this was pretty hackish and limited. The data is not garbage but it's not the most elegant approach to a one question survey. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org

[Design] Praise for the mobile site

hard to evaluate how the mobile view stands up over sustained use on desktop. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design

Re: [Design] Praise for the mobile site

the preferences. This is easy to rectify though if you wanted us to. Yeah but that's not persistent across views right? Tomasz: thanks for the tip. I'll give it a spin. ;) -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Design mailing

[EE] Recommending things to edit

to recommend articles. We hope that we can build something which can be continually useful for a content contributor as they get more experienced. Thanks, -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ EE mailing list EE

[WikimediaMobile] [iOS app] Left-hand navigation menu

Now that the left-hand navigation menu has expanded to six links, I'm having a little trouble quickly scanning it to find the item I need. Previously it was no issue, since there were only three or four links. Have we considered adding icons? -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https

Re: [Wikimedia-l] editor retention initiatives

On Sat, Aug 23, 2014 at 6:55 PM, James Salsman jsals...@gmail.com wrote: Is there a list somewhere of all currently active Foundation initiatives for attracting and retaining active editors? I am only aware of the one project, Task Recommendations, to try to encourage editors who have made a

Re: [Design] mwui.wmflabs.org reactivated, showing upcoming MW UI styles ($wgUseMediaWikiUIEverywhere = true; )

a Beta Feature we don't intend to graduate. -- Steven Walling, Product Manager https://wikimediafoundation.org/ ___ Design mailing list Design@lists.wikimedia.org https://lists.wikimedia.org/mailman/listinfo/design

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