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Hi Chris
On 20 April 2016 at 01:39, Chris Leonard wrote:
> I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been
> presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to
> decide how / when to
On 19 April 2016 at 23:14, Justin Overton wrote:
> I did look to see if I could find a way to buy an XO-4, but I ended up
> rooting my chromebook instead. It mostly runs fine on the chromebook, but
> several of the apps don't work. EToys, Speech, and a couple of others.
Hi
At FSF Libre Planet last month, Walker and Devin asked -
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Education-needs-free-software.pdf - the
following question to conclude:
How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education?
As I am delving into OLPC history, I've been interested the last
Hi!
I'm adding back the list - I feel annoyed
that the SL lists are currently configured for reply-to-sender-only, but
the systems team rejected my proposal to change this. Does it bother you?
:)
The other question I'm curious to ask you is, would you buy an
On 19 April 2016 at 21:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> My point is that they aren't shipping sugar platforms, they are shipping
> android platforms;
Sorry Tony :) I got confused between KAlite and their newer product,
https://learningequality.org/kolibri/
KAlite is
On 19 April 2016 at 22:19, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Sebastian Silva has just given us a way to leverage the library of Sugar
> activities outside of Sugar, another way to extend the benefits of the
> Sugar community.
This is
On 19 April 2016 at 18:50, Tony Anderson wrote:
> It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/.
>
VERY GOOD. Their platform - custom Android build - seems similar to OLPC
Australia's "XO Duo" Android build.
An old Paul Graham tip is to pay
On 19 April 2016 at 18:04, Walter Bender wrote:
> It complains that my phone is not adequate -- that I should use chrome or
> safari or firefox -- and gives me a skeleton presentation.
>
In fact that's just a feature of the 1st demo.
http://valeka.net/freelancer/ and
On 19 April 2016 at 17:45, Walter Bender wrote:
> Not such a great experience on my phone.
>
Did this not work?
http://imgur.com/FpMncO1
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On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas
wrote:
>
> Other slide shows I have experimented with, tend to leave too much white
> space, and/or it is difficult to arrange image and text nicely, and/or
> images have to be re-sized at production time, resulting in the
On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas
wrote:
> the challenge is to find a "screen shot + text" slide show.
>
Jeykll is a simple static site generator; I think it can integrate well
with remarkjs, looking at view-source:http://remarkjs.com :)
On 19 April 2016 at 15:01, Sanchit Bansal wrote:
> How do you guys like the slider to the show the three main images of the
> website or I should do something else ?
>
> What do you think ?
>
If the images are in a scrolling page that is simple - like today -
On 19 April 2016 at 15:01, Sanchit Bansal wrote:
> How do you guys like the slider to the show the three main images of the
> website or I should do something else ?
>
> What do you think ?
>
If the images are in a scrolling page that is simple - like today -
On 19 April 2016 at 04:47, Sean DALY wrote:
> Hopefully the MIT Sloan conclusions will be taken into account
>
Yes, https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team#MIT_Sloan_MarketLab_Study
is GREAT! :)
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On 19 April 2016 at 11:20, Iain Brown Douglas
wrote:
> It seems this conversation has gone a long way from wiki gardening :)
>
:D
What I have in mind for the wiki gardening is focused entirely on the wiki
content; and making a list of wiki pages to be migrated to
On 18 April 2016 at 22:27, wrote:
> Hi, what is the Liverly Kernel GitHub home?
>
>
https://github.com/LivelyKernel/LivelyKernel
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On 18 April 2016 at 22:00, Tony Anderson wrote:
> OLE Nepal later converted the squeak activities to html5/javascript
> because to speed up execution and reduce the memory size of the activities.
THAT is interesting! :) Thanks!
Hi Gonzalo
Could you help explain this? :)
On 18 April 2016 at 19:33, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 06:37:49PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> >
> > On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >
>
Hi
On 18 April 2016 at 18:21, Sam P. wrote:
> Content is genuinely the most important. No matter how nice your design
> is, no new visitor will be able to get what sugarlabs is by looking at your
> site - it simply doesn't say it!
I agree 100%, however, as I understood it, I
Hi
On 18 April 2016 at 15:04, Juan Carlos Murillo
wrote:
>
> In addition to Sugar Labs main webpage, Wiki, Planet, and the Translation
> webpages, which other websites do you think will need to be redesigned?
>
I would prioritize/order them as: homepage,
On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron wrote:
> help.sugarlabs.org
>
How is this generated?
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On 18 April 2016 at 16:01, Justin Overton wrote:
> Is this the correct place for the current javascript development?
> https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web
>
That's the python wrapper that allows web-platform activities to run within
a full Sugar Desktop.
There's also
On 18 April 2016 at 11:47, Jonas Smedegaard wrote:
> Etoys is arguably a World of activities.
>
In theory there's no difference between theory and practice.
Let me put this another way: I am new to SmallTalk and it makes grand
claims, yet I can not see much real world impact.
Hi
On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using javascript
> (sugar-web-activities). These activities work in Sugar exactly as do the
> Python-base activities. They also work on Sugarizer requiring only a
Hi Justin
I was also astonished to learn that Sugar is still going last month, but
the community is pretty active still, I agree with what Tony said :)
On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using
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Hi
Trawling the depths of the OLPC/Sugar history again today, I came across
http://www.mail-archive.com/fonc@vpri.org/msg04503.html in which Alan Kay
opines on how Apple and Microsoft’s “app” based OS designs in the 80s
introduced fundamental flaws that persist to Android and iOS today.
To what
Hi
Interesting #longread in Wired this month:
http://www.wired.com/2016/04/apec-schools/
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Dave
This article appears in the April 2016 issue.
By Anya Kamenetz (@anya1anya), the author of The Test, a book about
standardized testing in US schools.
FOR DECADES, THE major landmark of
Hi!
Today I was reading the proposed budget for Wikimedia Foundation, which has
been undergoing some leadership problems in the last few years - cf.
mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ - and I hope this might also be
interesting for those considering the Sugar Labs budget.
Hi
I ran into Walter Bender at the FSF Libre Planet event last month, and have
since been been reading up on OLPC. I was a G1G1 customer 8 years ago, but
I lost interest in the project and stopped paying attention soon after. I
have been intensely curious what happened to OLPC in the last 8
I love Neko!! :D
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On 13 April 2016 at 16:19, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 03:35:50PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote:
> > http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/
> > These black borders something awful familiar about that ;)
>
>
Hi
http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/
These black borders something awful familiar about that ;)
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On 11 April 2016 at 17:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> What are the next steps for the Wiki Gardening Weekend location
>
Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15
in Boston? :)
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On 11 April 2016 at 17:51, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> Nikola/Lektor
>
It seems http://grow.io has great l16n, perhaps that could be used.
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On 12 April 2016 at 21:05, James Cameron wrote:
> The question at hand is whether the new screenshot dialog from Utkarsh
> should be styled like the wireless password dialog, or styled like My
> Settings.
>
Seems to me the "My Settings" style is better.
Hi Martin!
On 12 April 2016 at 17:02, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> wrote:
>
> On 12 Apr 2016, at 14:45, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>
> On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com>
> wrote:
>
>> T
I am now able to moderate bugs, and all pending bug submissions are now
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On 12 April 2016 at 19:59, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Bash would not have graphics, but as I understood it Bash would be used to
> launch Linux programs which would presumably have access to a Window.
I think users will still need to install and run an X server to run unix
On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler wrote:
> The point is that because it's a waste of work and nobody wants to do it,
Give me the keys and I'll do it.
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, https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs and
https://developer.sugarlabs.org already started the move from wiki to
markdown-on-github, and I'm advocating for completing it.
> El 12/04/16 a las 07:58, Dave Crossland escribió:
> >
> > +1
> >
> > Who will set this up
Hi
On 11 April 2016 at 23:30, Sam P. wrote:
> Hosting a static site is a non-issue. We can easily do it on SL servers.
> We can even configure it to automatically rebuild on git update.
>
> I would not use github pages. It does not yet support TLS, which is very
> important in
On 12 April 2016 at 08:16, Sean DALY wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Tony Anderson
> wrote:
>
>> One development that seems to be ignored on these lists is Microsoft's
>> announcement that it will support Bash on Windows 10. As I understand
I also am suffering from this :(
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Hi Sam!
Pinned to the top of https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org is a thread, "Survey
- “How bad is Sugar (software)?”"
Are the results of this survey available anywhere? :)
If not, the survey contents is anonymous, so I don't see any reason to keep
the full results private, but perhaps I'm
Hi Sebastian!
In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said,
On 11 April 2016 at 14:57, Sebastian Silva
wrote:
> El 11/04/16 a las 13:56, Walter Bender escribió:
>
>
>> Generally I think all mediawiki instances should be retired and
Hi Walter!
In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said,
On 11 April 2016 at 14:56, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 11 April 2
Hi Adam
On 11 April 2016 at 15:21, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>>> You are thorough enough to
Hi Sean!
On 11 April 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote:
> Prior to the pack, I was funding press releases on pay-as-you-go out of my
> pocket, and I wasn't able to continue that any more at over $200 a pop.
>
Thank you so much for that huge material contribution - there are so
Hi Sean!
On 11 April 2016 at 15:57, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> Given the trademark fee was recently paid to renew the trademarks, I
>> guess the merits were acce
Hi Sean!
On 11 April 2016 at 15:57, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> Given the trademark fee was recently paid to renew the trademarks, I
>> guess the merits were acce
On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt wrote:
>
> You are thorough enough to consider the fiduciary/stewardship secretary
> role outlined below, and/or coaching/mentoring someone younger to assist
> you -- would you consider giving back in this way?
>
Sort of: I don't want to
SORRY
I shot this off and didn't double check, I think I confused myself because
(IIRC) Adam put together the finance wiki page summary and I got confused
=)
THANK YOU WALTER :D
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On 11 April 2016 at 13:35, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> On 11 April 2016 at 10:41, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>>
>>> On Sun,
Hi
Thanks to Adam for putting together
https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions - is a great read
:)
I have some questions about some of the motions, but some are a few years
old and perhaps it is no longer easy to answer them - no pressure :)
> selectricity
This sounds great!
Hi
On 11 April 2016 at 10:41, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> Are you saying that some corresponding laptops were NOT given to poor
>> kids as promised, and the foundation
Hi Laura!
Thanks for the spreadsheet - this is great!
On 10 April 2016 at 23:57, Laura Vargas wrote:
> According to the published numbers (I'm attaching a Spreadsheet with the
> information published by you) for the last 4 years, ~80% (USD$26,400) of
> expenses are
Hi Laura!
Thanks for the spreadsheet - this is great!
On 10 April 2016 at 23:57, Laura Vargas wrote:
> According to the published numbers (I'm attaching a Spreadsheet with the
> information published by you) for the last 4 years, ~80% (USD$26,400) of
> expenses are
On 11 April 2016 at 05:04, James Cameron wrote:
> OLPC, Inc. Not OLPC Association. Anybody who has referred to
> Association is talking about a previous organisation.
>
I'm still getting my bearings with all this. The foundation and the
association have closed, but the Inc
Hi
On twitter, Behdad said of ttfautohint control files,
"Any reliance on ttf point numbers is futile..."
- https://twitter.com/behdadesfahbod/status/719340420216434688
In response, I asked, how should type designers be hinting fonts these
days? :)
Behdad suggested we move the discussion to
On 8 April 2016 at 09:26, Walter Bender wrote:
> the XO-4 was the machine we aspired to build in 2006-7
That's a powerful quote, I think :)
But it seems premature for use of the past-tense - XO-4s are available
today brand new in modest quantities. Or do you think
Hi Adam
On 10 April 2016 at 22:05, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> On Apr 10, 2016 9:37 PM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> >
> > On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
> >>
> >> Just imagine if
On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt wrote:
> Just imagine if OLPC had not chosen to run off with $40 Millon in
> community-driven revenue
I don't understand this. What are you referring to? :)
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On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt wrote:
> Back in that pre-Twitter era when it was somehow considered Perfectly Ok
> and Normal to step on one's one community, as nothing more than pretty
> Give1Get1 fundraising whores.
CoC language fail :)
On 8 April 2016 at 16:23, Walter Bender wrote:
> Just need a mechanism for accessing a supply of XO-4s...
>
>>
Who has bought XO-4s, and in what quantities?
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On 9 April 2016 at 20:30, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> El 09/04/16 a las 09:41, Lionel Laské escribió:
> > Sugarizer OS will take the place of the Google/Amazon Launcher so
> > users will be able to launch both Sugarizer and Android application.
>
> Interestingly, this is
On 9 April 2016 at 11:26, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> I also agree that $500 does seem excessive, and even inappropriate
FWIW, I thought it was small; it is under minimum wage for some places.
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On 9 April 2016 at 11:26, Caryl Bigenho wrote:
> I also agree that $500 does seem excessive, and even inappropriate
FWIW, I thought it was small; it is under minimum wage for some places.
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On 9 April 2016 at 06:31, James Cameron wrote:
> The XO-4 is in production.
>
What's the minimum order from OLPC? :)
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10,000. Okay. How about this?
I suppose a batch of 10,000 costs $200 each from OLPC, that's a $2M capital
outlay.
That's just 10 schools with 4 year groups each, at 250 laptops per year
group.
Finding ten ritzy private primary schools in the US where the parents can
drop $400 in a hat
On 7 April 2016 at 21:43, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
> On 1 April 2016 at 01:24, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote:
>
>> In Haiti XO-1s will be dominant across many schools for years and year to
>> come. Similar to Tony's description, but these typically
On 5 April 2016 at 05:32, Tony Anderson wrote:
> I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of
> Translation-Community Manager as described at
> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager.
>
> I further move that Chris Leonard be named
On 8 April 2016 at 08:08, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> Does any one have an idea of the cost of 1000 32GB SD cards?
>>>
>>
>> I expect about $2,000,
Perhaps SVG is better than canvas?
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On 7 April 2016 at 13:33, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote:
>
>
> El 06/04/16 a las 10:30, Dave Crossland escribió:
>
> On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote:
>
>> Wiki technology is a bad match for decision mak
On 7 April 2016 at 22:54, Tony Anderson wrote:
> AFIK, the Government of Rwanda annual fiscal year begins July 1. Some one
> may have access to the records, but there are probably 1000 XO-1s deployed
> there. Does any one have an idea of the cost of 1000 32GB SD cards?
>
Hi
On 7 April 2016 at 22:04, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> A layer of Scotch tape remedies the trackpad problem in many cases.
>
...
>
The keyboard is more robus
Hi Adam!
On 1 April 2016 at 01:24, Adam Holt wrote:
> In Haiti XO-1s will be dominant across many schools for years and year to
> come. Similar to Tony's description, but these typically will be using
> 32GB SD cards -- thankfully these are incredibly affordable.
>
What is
On 6 April 2016 at 17:24, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> How many kids is Sugar targetting?
>>
>> Low millions? Or billions?
>>
>
> A few years ago, I es
On 6 April 2016 at 17:24, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> How many kids is Sugar targetting?
>>
>> Low millions? Or billions?
>>
>
> A few years ago, I es
On 7 April 2016 at 10:15, Sebastian Silva wrote:
> The problem with Sugarizer as a shell is that it can only run sugarizer
> Activities (Sugar Web Activities) and not the Android apps. These
> activities are very limited on a first experience.
There was a GSOC
Hi Tony!
On 7 April 2016 at 19:14, Tony Anderson wrote:
>
> There are a number of projects to put Linux on Android devices, e.g.
> http://linuxonandroid.org/.
>
Nice! I didn't know it :)
> I could see an openWRT scenario in which there would be an inventory of
>
Not used it, would like to :)
Yep, definitely for design docs! :)
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On 7 April 2016 at 10:33, Sean DALY wrote:
> Smart marketing involves identifying a target with an objective, then
> choosing a media channel to touch that target. It's tempting to go the
> other way around and say "facebook is a heavyweight channel, so let's
> concentrate
On 7 April 2016 at 12:54, Sean DALY wrote:
> As strange as it may sound, effective marketing comes from a rigorous
> approach.
>
Right - one of the top Google marketing partners is
http://www.conversion-rate-experts.com - one of the 2 co-foundners was
previously a rocket
ain, sugarizer itself has only a few activities as of now
> compared to Sugar, so I guess it would be limited in that way anyways.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart
ain, sugarizer itself has only a few activities as of now
> compared to Sugar, so I guess it would be limited in that way anyways.
>
> On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>> I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart
I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing,
but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on
them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main
http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.
I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing,
but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on
them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main
http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.
hool server, we already put them to shame.
>
> Tony
>
>
> On 04/07/2016 11:24 AM, Dave Crossland wrote:
>
>
> On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote:
>
>> Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quan
On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson wrote:
> Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quantities
> of 30+.
> If we develop a technique to install Sugar on such a device, that can be
> done for all of them at
> the time of deployment. So, if anyone
On 6 April 2016 at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote:
> One approach is for the 'cloud' server to emulate the school server.
>
100% agree
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Hi Lionel!
On 6 April 2016 at 15:56, Lionel Laské wrote:
> I'm just considering that the limited resources of SugarLabs should be
> dedicated in priority to increase the community and I'm not convinced at
> all that translation is the better way. At least the ratio cost
On 6 April 2016 at 10:48, Martin Dengler wrote:
> Sugar is not a technology.
Ahhh come on man, you know what I mean :) I was pretty clear that I am
talking about https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/graphs/contributors
If you have ever put a UI in front of kids
That
On 6 April 2016 at 10:41, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote:
>
>>
>> On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>>
On 6 April 2016 at 10:44, Walter Bender wrote:
> Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :)
>>
>
> Never intentionally. When it does happen, we try to catch the mistake,
> such as Adam reminding Tony to circulate his motion publicly,
>
I think this is all
On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote:
> If we can develop within the context of Sugar desktop and the browser, it
> is to a large extent a win-win.
That is the 'great hack' I referred to earlier - I think its copyleft-level
clever stuff :)
I'm not so familiar
On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote:
> the traffic on the list is close to nil
Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :)
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On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote:
> the service model that is inherent to the web is really problematic from
> the point of view of children's privacy, security, and freedom.
Naw, it ain't inherent to the model! :)
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