Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Samson's proposal to SLOBs

2016-04-20 Thread Dave Crossland
(removed all direct emails, only using iaep list) Hi Chris On 20 April 2016 at 01:39, Chris Leonard wrote: > I worked with Samson to refine a narrower proposal that has been > presented to the SLOB by email. It is for the SLOB or Samson to > decide how / when to

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 23:14, Justin Overton wrote: > I did look to see if I could find a way to buy an XO-4, but I ended up > rooting my chromebook instead. It mostly runs fine on the chromebook, but > several of the apps don't work. EToys, Speech, and a couple of others.

[IAEP] "How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education?"

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi At FSF Libre Planet last month, Walker and Devin asked - https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/File:Education-needs-free-software.pdf - the following question to conclude: How can we advocate for Free/Libre Software in Education? As I am delving into OLPC history, I've been interested the last

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! I'm adding back the list - I feel annoyed that the SL lists are currently configured for reply-to-sender-only, but the systems team rejected my proposal to change this. Does it bother you? :) The other question I'm curious to ask you is, would you buy an

Re: [IAEP] Khan Academy?

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 21:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > My point is that they aren't shipping sugar platforms, they are shipping > android platforms; Sorry Tony :) I got confused between KAlite and their newer product, https://learningequality.org/kolibri/ KAlite is

Re: [Sugar-devel] Vision

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 22:19, Tony Anderson wrote: > Sebastian Silva has just given us a way to leverage the library of Sugar > activities outside of Sugar, another way to extend the benefits of the > Sugar community. This is

Re: [IAEP] IAEP Digest, Vol 97, Issue 52

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 18:50, Tony Anderson wrote: > It might be good for comparison: https://learningequality.org/ka-lite/. > VERY GOOD. Their platform - custom Android build - seems similar to OLPC Australia's "XO Duo" Android build. An old Paul Graham tip is to pay

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 18:04, Walter Bender wrote: > It complains that my phone is not adequate -- that I should use chrome or > safari or firefox -- and gives me a skeleton presentation. > In fact that's just a feature of the 1st demo. http://valeka.net/freelancer/ and

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 17:45, Walter Bender wrote: > Not such a great experience on my phone. > Did this not work? http://imgur.com/FpMncO1 ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > > Other slide shows I have experimented with, tend to leave too much white > space, and/or it is difficult to arrange image and text nicely, and/or > images have to be re-sized at production time, resulting in the

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 17:19, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > the challenge is to find a "screen shot + text" slide show. > Jeykll is a simple static site generator; I think it can integrate well with remarkjs, looking at view-source:http://remarkjs.com :)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Fwd: GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 15:01, Sanchit Bansal wrote: > How do you guys like the slider to the show the three main images of the > website or I should do something else ? > > What do you think ? > If the images are in a scrolling page that is simple - like today -

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Fwd: GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 15:01, Sanchit Bansal wrote: > How do you guys like the slider to the show the three main images of the > website or I should do something else ? > > What do you think ? > If the images are in a scrolling page that is simple - like today -

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Fwd: GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 04:47, Sean DALY wrote: > Hopefully the MIT Sloan conclusions will be taken into account > Yes, https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Marketing_Team#MIT_Sloan_MarketLab_Study is GREAT! :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-19 Thread Dave Crossland
On 19 April 2016 at 11:20, Iain Brown Douglas wrote: > It seems this conversation has gone a long way from wiki gardening :) > :D What I have in mind for the wiki gardening is focused entirely on the wiki content; and making a list of wiki pages to be migrated to

Re: [lively-kernel] Lively GIT home

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 22:27, wrote: > Hi, what is the Liverly Kernel GitHub home? > > https://github.com/LivelyKernel/LivelyKernel ___ lively-kernel mailing list lively-kernel@hpi.uni-potsdam.de

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 22:00, Tony Anderson wrote: > OLE Nepal later converted the squeak activities to html5/javascript > because to speed up execution and reduce the memory size of the activities. THAT is interesting! :) Thanks!

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Gonzalo Could you help explain this? :) On 18 April 2016 at 19:33, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 06:37:49PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > > On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron <[1]qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > > >

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 April 2016 at 18:21, Sam P. wrote: > Content is genuinely the most important. No matter how nice your design > is, no new visitor will be able to get what sugarlabs is by looking at your > site - it simply doesn't say it! I agree 100%, however, as I understood it, I

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 April 2016 at 15:04, Juan Carlos Murillo wrote: > > In addition to Sugar Labs main webpage, Wiki, Planet, and the Translation > webpages, which other websites do you think will need to be redesigned? > I would prioritize/order them as: homepage,

Re: [Sugar-devel] GSoC 2016 Website Redesign

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 17:48, James Cameron wrote: > help.sugarlabs.org > How is this generated? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 16:01, Justin Overton wrote: > Is this the correct place for the current javascript development? > https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar-web > That's the python wrapper that allows web-platform activities to run within a full Sugar Desktop. There's also

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
On 18 April 2016 at 11:47, Jonas Smedegaard wrote: > Etoys is arguably a World of activities. > In theory there's no difference between theory and practice. Let me put this another way: I am new to SmallTalk and it makes grand claims, yet I can not see much real world impact.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote: > Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using javascript > (sugar-web-activities). These activities work in Sugar exactly as do the > Python-base activities. They also work on Sugarizer requiring only a

Re: [Sugar-devel] Active development

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Justin I was also astonished to learn that Sugar is still going last month, but the community is pretty active still, I agree with what Tony said :) On 18 April 2016 at 00:03, Tony Anderson wrote: > Very much so. Currently the focus is writing activities using

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
I LOVE IT :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [Sugar-devel] Allow running Sugar Activities outside Sugar

2016-04-18 Thread Dave Crossland
I LOVE IT :D ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[IAEP] Early Sugar Design Documentation?

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Trawling the depths of the OLPC/Sugar history again today, I came across http://www.mail-archive.com/fonc@vpri.org/msg04503.html in which Alan Kay opines on how Apple and Microsoft’s “app” based OS designs in the 80s introduced fundamental flaws that persist to Android and iOS today. To what

[IAEP] Wired: Pearson’s Quest to Cover the Planet in Company-Run Schools

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Interesting #longread in Wired this month: http://www.wired.com/2016/04/apec-schools/ -- Cheers Dave This article appears in the April 2016 issue. By Anya Kamenetz (@anya1anya), the author of The Test, a book about standardized testing in US schools. FOR DECADES, THE major landmark of

Re: [IAEP] SL 2016 Annual Budget / Presupuesto Proyecto Sugar Labs año 2016

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi! Today I was reading the proposed budget for Wikimedia Foundation, which has been undergoing some leadership problems in the last few years - cf. mollywhite.net/wikimedia-timeline/ - and I hope this might also be interesting for those considering the Sugar Labs budget.

[Fonc] The future of VPRI?

2016-04-17 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi I ran into Walter Bender at the FSF Libre Planet event last month, and have since been been reading up on OLPC. I was a G1G1 customer 8 years ago, but I lost interest in the project and stopped paying attention soon after. I have been intensely curious what happened to OLPC in the last 8

Re: [IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
I love Neko!! :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 13 April 2016 at 16:19, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Wed, Apr 13, 2016 at 03:35:50PM -0400, Dave Crossland wrote: > > http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/ > > These black borders something awful familiar about that ;) > >

[IAEP] [joke] The Sugarization of Windows

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi http://blog.emojipedia.org/ninja-cat-the-windows-only-emoji/ These black borders something awful familiar about that ;) -- Cheers Dave ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 17:40, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > What are the next steps for the Wiki Gardening Weekend location > Who would like to join myself, Walter and Bernie the weekend of May 14-15 in Boston? :) ___ IAEP -- It's

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-13 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 17:51, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > Nikola/Lektor > It seems http://grow.io has great l16n, perhaps that could be used. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarl

Re: [Sugar-devel] Screenshot feature [GSoC Project]

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 April 2016 at 21:05, James Cameron wrote: > The question at hand is whether the new screenshot dialog from Utkarsh > should be styled like the wireless password dialog, or styled like My > Settings. > Seems to me the "My Settings" style is better.

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Martin! On 12 April 2016 at 17:02, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> wrote: > > On 12 Apr 2016, at 14:45, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler <mar...@martindengler.com> > wrote: > >> T

Re: [Sugar-devel] Not able to comment on bugs.sugarlabs.org

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
I am now able to moderate bugs, and all pending bug submissions are now approved. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 April 2016 at 19:59, Tony Anderson wrote: > Bash would not have graphics, but as I understood it Bash would be used to > launch Linux programs which would presumably have access to a Window. I think users will still need to install and run an X server to run unix

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 April 2016 at 15:38, Martin Dengler wrote: > The point is that because it's a waste of work and nobody wants to do it, Give me the keys and I'll do it. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
, https://github.com/sugarlabs/www-sugarlabs and https://developer.sugarlabs.org already started the move from wiki to markdown-on-github, and I'm advocating for completing it. > El 12/04/16 a las 07:58, Dave Crossland escribió: > > > > +1 > > > > Who will set this up

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 11 April 2016 at 23:30, Sam P. wrote: > Hosting a static site is a non-issue. We can easily do it on SL servers. > We can even configure it to automatically rebuild on git update. > > I would not use github pages. It does not yet support TLS, which is very > important in

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-12 Thread Dave Crossland
On 12 April 2016 at 08:16, Sean DALY wrote: > On Tue, Apr 12, 2016 at 11:58 AM, Tony Anderson > wrote: > >> One development that seems to be ignored on these lists is Microsoft's >> announcement that it will support Bash on Windows 10. As I understand

Re: [Sugar-devel] Not able to comment on bugs.sugarlabs.org

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
I also am suffering from this :( ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

[IAEP] 2015 SocialHelp Survey?

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sam! Pinned to the top of https://socialhelp.sugarlabs.org is a thread, "Survey - “How bad is Sugar (software)?”" Are the results of this survey available anywhere? :) If not, the survey contents is anonymous, so I don't see any reason to keep the full results private, but perhaps I'm

Re: [IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sebastian! In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said, On 11 April 2016 at 14:57, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 11/04/16 a las 13:56, Walter Bender escribió: > > >> Generally I think all mediawiki instances should be retired and

[IAEP] Wiki Gardening Weekend (May 14-15, Boston, USA)

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Walter! In the "Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions" thread you said, On 11 April 2016 at 14:56, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> On 11 April 2

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam On 11 April 2016 at 15:21, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 2:46 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: >> >>> You are thorough enough to

Re: [IAEP] [Sugar-devel] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:37, Sean DALY wrote: > Prior to the pack, I was funding press releases on pay-as-you-go out of my > pocket, and I wasn't able to continue that any more at over $200 a pop. > Thank you so much for that huge material contribution - there are so

Re: [Marketing] [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:57, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Given the trademark fee was recently paid to renew the trademarks, I >> guess the merits were acce

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Sean! On 11 April 2016 at 15:57, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 7:51 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Given the trademark fee was recently paid to renew the trademarks, I >> guess the merits were acce

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 14:32, Adam Holt wrote: > > You are thorough enough to consider the fiduciary/stewardship secretary > role outlined below, and/or coaching/mentoring someone younger to assist > you -- would you consider giving back in this way? > Sort of: I don't want to

Re: [IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
SORRY I shot this off and didn't double check, I think I confused myself because (IIRC) Adam put together the finance wiki page summary and I got confused =) THANK YOU WALTER :D ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 13:35, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 1:06 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> Hi >> >> On 11 April 2016 at 10:41, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: >> >>> On Sun,

[IAEP] Seeking insights into Oversight_Board/Decisions

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Thanks to Adam for putting together https://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/Decisions - is a great read :) I have some questions about some of the motions, but some are a few years old and perhaps it is no longer easy to answer them - no pressure :) > selectricity This sounds great!

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 11 April 2016 at 10:41, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Sun, Apr 10, 2016 at 11:40 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> Are you saying that some corresponding laptops were NOT given to poor >> kids as promised, and the foundation

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Laura! Thanks for the spreadsheet - this is great! On 10 April 2016 at 23:57, Laura Vargas wrote: > According to the published numbers (I'm attaching a Spreadsheet with the > information published by you) for the last 4 years, ~80% (USD$26,400) of > expenses are

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Laura! Thanks for the spreadsheet - this is great! On 10 April 2016 at 23:57, Laura Vargas wrote: > According to the published numbers (I'm attaching a Spreadsheet with the > information published by you) for the last 4 years, ~80% (USD$26,400) of > expenses are

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-11 Thread Dave Crossland
On 11 April 2016 at 05:04, James Cameron wrote: > OLPC, Inc. Not OLPC Association. Anybody who has referred to > Association is talking about a previous organisation. > I'm still getting my bearings with all this. The foundation and the association have closed, but the Inc

[ft-devel] TTFAutohint Without TT Point Numbers

2016-04-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On twitter, Behdad said of ttfautohint control files, "Any reliance on ttf point numbers is futile..." - https://twitter.com/behdadesfahbod/status/719340420216434688 In response, I asked, how should type designers be hinting fonts these days? :) Behdad suggested we move the discussion to

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 April 2016 at 09:26, Walter Bender wrote: > the XO-4 was the machine we aspired to build in 2006-7 That's a powerful quote, I think :) But it seems premature for use of the past-tense - XO-4s are available today brand new in modest quantities. Or do you think

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-10 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam On 10 April 2016 at 22:05, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > On Apr 10, 2016 9:37 PM, "Dave Crossland" <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > > > > On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> > >> Just imagine if

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt wrote: > Just imagine if OLPC had not chosen to run off with $40 Millon in > community-driven revenue I don't understand this. What are you referring to? :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] [UKids] Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 10 April 2016 at 20:35, Adam Holt wrote: > Back in that pre-Twitter era when it was somehow considered Perfectly Ok > and Normal to step on one's one community, as nothing more than pretty > Give1Get1 fundraising whores. CoC language fail :)

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-10 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 April 2016 at 16:23, Walter Bender wrote: > Just need a mechanism for accessing a supply of XO-4s... > >> Who has bought XO-4s, and in what quantities? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re:The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 April 2016 at 20:30, Sebastian Silva wrote: > El 09/04/16 a las 09:41, Lionel Laské escribió: > > Sugarizer OS will take the place of the Google/Amazon Launcher so > > users will be able to launch both Sugarizer and Android application. > > Interestingly, this is

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

2016-04-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 April 2016 at 11:26, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I also agree that $500 does seem excessive, and even inappropriate FWIW, I thought it was small; it is under minimum wage for some places. ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project

Re: [Sugar-devel] [IAEP] [SLOBS] Action needed on two issues

2016-04-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 April 2016 at 11:26, Caryl Bigenho wrote: > I also agree that $500 does seem excessive, and even inappropriate FWIW, I thought it was small; it is under minimum wage for some places. ___ Sugar-devel mailing list

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-09 Thread Dave Crossland
On 9 April 2016 at 06:31, James Cameron wrote: > The XO-4 is in production. > What's the minimum order from OLPC? :) ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi 10,000. Okay. How about this? I suppose a batch of 10,000 costs $200 each from OLPC, that's a $2M capital outlay. That's just 10 schools with 4 year groups each, at 250 laptops per year group. Finding ten ritzy private primary schools in the US where the parents can drop $400 in a hat

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 21:43, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > On 1 April 2016 at 01:24, Adam Holt <h...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> In Haiti XO-1s will be dominant across many schools for years and year to >> come. Similar to Tony's description, but these typically

Re: [IAEP] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 5 April 2016 at 05:32, Tony Anderson wrote: > I move that the SugarLabs Oversight Board approve the position of > Translation-Community Manager as described at > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Translation-Community_Manager. > > I further move that Chris Leonard be named

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 8 April 2016 at 08:08, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Fri, Apr 8, 2016 at 5:26 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> Does any one have an idea of the cost of 1000 32GB SD cards? >>> >> >> I expect about $2,000,

Re: [Sugar-devel] Porting Fraction Bounce to Sugarizer

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
Perhaps SVG is better than canvas? ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/sugar-devel

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-08 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 13:33, Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: > > > El 06/04/16 a las 10:30, Dave Crossland escribió: > > On 6 April 2016 at 03:25, James Cameron <qu...@laptop.org> wrote: > >> Wiki technology is a bad match for decision mak

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 22:54, Tony Anderson wrote: > AFIK, the Government of Rwanda annual fiscal year begins July 1. Some one > may have access to the records, but there are probably 1000 XO-1s deployed > there. Does any one have an idea of the cost of 1000 32GB SD cards? >

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi On 7 April 2016 at 22:04, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 9:43 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> A layer of Scotch tape remedies the trackpad problem in many cases. > ... > The keyboard is more robus

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Adam! On 1 April 2016 at 01:24, Adam Holt wrote: > In Haiti XO-1s will be dominant across many schools for years and year to > come. Similar to Tony's description, but these typically will be using > 32GB SD cards -- thankfully these are incredibly affordable. > What is

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 17:24, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> How many kids is Sugar targetting? >> >> Low millions? Or billions? >> > > A few years ago, I es

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 17:24, Sean DALY <sdaly...@gmail.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 5:39 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> How many kids is Sugar targetting? >> >> Low millions? Or billions? >> > > A few years ago, I es

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 10:15, Sebastian Silva wrote: > The problem with Sugarizer as a shell is that it can only run sugarizer > Activities (Sugar Web Activities) and not the Android apps. These > activities are very limited on a first experience. There was a GSOC

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Tony! On 7 April 2016 at 19:14, Tony Anderson wrote: > > There are a number of projects to put Linux on Android devices, e.g. > http://linuxonandroid.org/. > Nice! I didn't know it :) > I could see an openWRT scenario in which there would be an inventory of >

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
Not used it, would like to :) Yep, definitely for design docs! :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 10:33, Sean DALY wrote: > Smart marketing involves identifying a target with an objective, then > choosing a media channel to touch that target. It's tempting to go the > other way around and say "facebook is a heavyweight channel, so let's > concentrate

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
On 7 April 2016 at 12:54, Sean DALY wrote: > As strange as it may sound, effective marketing comes from a rigorous > approach. > Right - one of the top Google marketing partners is http://www.conversion-rate-experts.com - one of the 2 co-foundners was previously a rocket

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
ain, sugarizer itself has only a few activities as of now > compared to Sugar, so I guess it would be limited in that way anyways. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
ain, sugarizer itself has only a few activities as of now > compared to Sugar, so I guess it would be limited in that way anyways. > > On Thu, Apr 7, 2016 at 6:36 PM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart

Re: [Marketing] [Sugar-devel] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing, but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.

Re: [Sugar-devel] [Marketing] Sugar on Facebook app(Sugarizer)(sugar activities))

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
I think facebook app/game versions of sugar activities is smart marketing, but I would suggest making them a little limited, to get people hooked on them, and then telling people to upgrade to the main http://server.sugarizer.org app to play the next level.

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-07 Thread Dave Crossland
hool server, we already put them to shame. > > Tony > > > On 04/07/2016 11:24 AM, Dave Crossland wrote: > > > On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson <tony_ander...@usa.net> wrote: > >> Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quan

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 20:49, Tony Anderson wrote: > Our need is a deployable device - one that can be purchased in quantities > of 30+. > If we develop a technique to install Sugar on such a device, that can be > done for all of them at > the time of deployment. So, if anyone

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 20:53, Tony Anderson wrote: > One approach is for the 'cloud' server to emulate the school server. > 100% agree ___ Sugar-devel mailing list Sugar-devel@lists.sugarlabs.org

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
Hi Lionel! On 6 April 2016 at 15:56, Lionel Laské wrote: > I'm just considering that the limited resources of SugarLabs should be > dedicated in priority to increase the community and I'm not convinced at > all that translation is the better way. At least the ratio cost

Re: [Sugar-devel] The future of Sugar on XO-1s

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 10:48, Martin Dengler wrote: > Sugar is not a technology. Ahhh come on man, you know what I mean :) I was pretty clear that I am talking about https://github.com/sugarlabs/sugar/graphs/contributors If you have ever put a UI in front of kids That

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 10:41, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Wed, Apr 6, 2016 at 10:09 AM, Dave Crossland <d...@lab6.com> wrote: > >> >> On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender <walter.ben...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>>

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 10:44, Walter Bender wrote: > Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) >> > > Never intentionally. When it does happen, we try to catch the mistake, > such as Adam reminding Tony to circulate his motion publicly, > I think this is all

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote: > If we can develop within the context of Sugar desktop and the browser, it > is to a large extent a win-win. That is the 'great hack' I referred to earlier - I think its copyleft-level clever stuff :) I'm not so familiar

Re: [IAEP] [SLOBS] Motions to create position of Translation-Community Manager

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 09:42, Walter Bender wrote: > the traffic on the list is close to nil Does the traffic include deliberation of motions? :) ___ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!)

Re: [Sugar-devel] Python is good - don't waste time (was Re: The future of Sugar on XO-1s)

2016-04-06 Thread Dave Crossland
On 6 April 2016 at 09:17, Walter Bender wrote: > the service model that is inherent to the web is really problematic from > the point of view of children's privacy, security, and freedom. Naw, it ain't inherent to the model! :) Off the top of my head, here are 3

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