Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Storm Dragon
Howdy, No, I don't have pulseaudio installed. I actually can't use it because it will not allow me to use speakup in the console. Interestingly enough, I read something that said moc doesn't have support for pulseaudio. So, I must have found outdated info. Still, I wonder if we are missing a

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Michał Zegan
I believe performance impact is very noticeable, especially I believe it would also be a latency impact. W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:50, Christoph Gysin pisze: The performance impact is hardly an issue on any modern machine you will be running it. The main concerns are regarding security.

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Christoph Gysin
Alsa itself has a pulseaudio plugin. So applications using alsa will be routed through pulseaudio. I tried to find the source for that plugin, but couldn't find it. Maybe it was removed from alsa-plugins upstream? Or merged into another plugin? What is preventing speakup from using pulseaudio?

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Michał Zegan
this is very well known to me, and also quite logical. pulseaudio is a session process, espeakup is a system process. that whole thing actually means it will have exactly those problems. W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:32, Storm Dragon pisze: Howdy, No one has any clue what is stopping it. People have

[arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread AIS Information
Date: Fri, 25 Sep 2015 15:06:27 -0400 > From: Storm Dragon <stormdragon2...@gmail.com> > To: Arch Linux General <arch-general@archlinux.org> > Subject: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC > Message-ID: <20150925190627.GA807@frankendell> > Content-Type: text/plain; charse

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Storm Dragon
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Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Christoph Gysin
Are you using pulseaudio? This works out of the box for me with pulseaudio. moc controls the volume of whatever was the default sink when it was started. On Fri, Sep 25, 2015 at 10:06 PM, Storm Dragon wrote: > Howdy, > I have installed extra/moc 1:2.5.0-3. Reading

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Michał Zegan
It is not recommended for, I believe, a good reason, including severe performance impact. W dniu 26.09.2015 o 15:39, Christoph Gysin pisze: While it's generally not recommended, you *can* run pulseaudio also as a system-wide instance. On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Michał Zegan

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Christoph Gysin
The performance impact is hardly an issue on any modern machine you will be running it. The main concerns are regarding security.

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Storm Dragon
Howdy, No one has any clue what is stopping it. People have contacted the pulse developers who say it's something with espeakup, but then some think it may be speech-dispatcher's crappy pulse implimentation, which may be the case, cause I think it will work if a dekstop infironment isn't

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread kendell clark
On 09/26/2015 08:26 AM, Christoph Gysin wrote: > Alsa itself has a pulseaudio plugin. So applications using alsa will > be routed through pulseaudio. > > I tried to find the source for that plugin, but couldn't find it. > Maybe it was removed from alsa-plugins upstream? Or merged into > another

Re: [arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-26 Thread Christoph Gysin
While it's generally not recommended, you *can* run pulseaudio also as a system-wide instance. On Sat, Sep 26, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Michał Zegan wrote: > this is very well known to me, and also quite logical. pulseaudio is a > session process, espeakup is a system

[arch-general] Alsa Softvol and MOC

2015-09-25 Thread Storm Dragon
Howdy, I have installed extra/moc 1:2.5.0-3. Reading through the docs, and things on the net, I found a way to set up a softvol control for it in alsa, so when I adjust its volume, it only changes the volume for moc. Everything went well, except, I can't adjust the volume from within the moc