Kumarn:Just to be clear, your prepaid, postpaid, calling card and call termination, the calling cards are used from Indian PSTN and calls terminate within India?. Or those calling card users can also make international outbound calls?
Thanks.On 11/1/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
Hi,
we have just launched a new broadband phone service. We use asterisk
for voicemail and some PSTN connectivity.
Anybody interested please have a look at http://www.growtel.net/
Regards,
Marnus van Niekerk
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Just curious.. what are you using to determine if someone is a
'member'? That is.. how do you determine if the call is off-network
or in-network?
On 11/2/06, Marnus van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
we have just launched a new broadband phone service. We use asterisk
for voicemail and
On 02/11/06, Marnus van Niekerk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi,
we have just launched a new broadband phone service. We use asterisk
for voicemail and some PSTN connectivity.
s/broadband phone service/mlm scheme/
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Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Mister Ponzi, that is an exciting compensation plan!
http://www.growtel.net/index.php?pageID=comm
Marnus van Niekerk wrote:
Hi,
we have just launched a new broadband phone service. We use asterisk
for voicemail and some PSTN connectivity.
Anybody interested please have a look at
s/broadband phone service/mlm scheme/
Agreed, but don't you think
it is about time we use whatever we possibly could to promote voip
adoption :-)
M
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YES!!! But keep mind that the baby bells are trying to you from VOIP ADOPTION.
It's bad for there checking accounts.
Good for our checking accounts!
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Are you outside of the US?
Do you need to call US Toll Free
I don't think the Federal Trade Commission will be too happy about this
'Pyramid' structure you are using.
http://www.ftc.gov/speeches/other/dvimf16.htm
Marnus van Niekerk wrote:
s/broadband phone service/mlm scheme/
Agreed, but don't you think it is about time we use whatever we
Take a look at http://www.sipbroker.com/sipbroker/action/pstnNumbers
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Are you outside of the US?
Do you need to call US Toll Free Numbers?
We can help you save money on calling US toll free numbers.
Email for
What is your point Show me VOIP there.
Or are you saying that VOIP is a Pyramid scam :)
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Are you outside of the US?
Do you need to call US Toll Free Numbers?
We can help you save money on calling US toll free
Why do we need to promote voip adoption? Its not as
reliable andsuffers from call quality issues. The people that are running
around screaming about promoting VoIP (as in ITSP's) are actually doing more
harm than good to the market. The only reliable VoIP service is if you are
getting it
Rhino Equipment and Sangoma.
Kerry
GarrisonDirector of Technical ServicesTech Data Pros -
Business IT
Solutions(949)502-7819 x200- [EMAIL PROTECTED]http://www.techdatapros.com
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michael
YoungSent: Tuesday, October 31, 2006
Al,
I would like to offer you a per minute
marketing fee for sending me your 8xx calls to reterminate.I pay anywhere from
.0025-.005 per minute based on volume.Any interest in finding out more
information?
Jay Kordic
The Horizon Group
Wholesale/Retail VOIP and TDM services
On 02/11/06, Al Bochter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
What is your point Show me VOIP there.
Or are you saying that VOIP is a Pyramid scam :)
No, but their scheme is.
(Any chance you could make your .sig shorter than the content of your
postings? Poor netiquette to continuously promote
You should have read that link you posted.Some people confuse pyramid and Ponzi schemes with legitimate multilevel marketing.
Multilevel marketing programs are known as MLM's,(4) and
unlike pyramid or Ponzi schemes, MLM's have a real product to sell. More importantly,
MLM's actually
If both sides are on decent connections (especially
same carrier), then you should be fine. I agree that the fewest hops wins,
but its not complete junk over the public Internet.
Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
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From:
I sorry but I have to disagree. There are many businesses that can use VoIP,
have a good QOS and save tons of money.
Henry L.Coleman CEO
*VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355
Toronto Ontario
Canada
If both sides are on decent connections (especially same carrier), then
you should be fine. I agree that
Henry.L.Coleman wrote:
I sorry but I have to disagree. There are many businesses that can use VoIP,
have a good QOS and save tons of money.
Henry L.Coleman CEO
*VoIP-PBX* 1-866-415-5355
Toronto Ontario
Canada
If both sides are on decent connections (especially same carrier), then
you
What do you mean by QoS?
The ONLY reliable ITSP service is one that is able to offer end to end QoS.
In other words, TDM circuits so your basically back to using the PSTN again.
An internet connection that is geographically near to(therefore few hops)the
PSTN connection is ok for some but it will
1) Look at the compensation plan.
2) Look at the original Ponzi case.
3) Do the math.
The US population recently hit 300 million. Let's be generous and assume
that all of them, even newborns can be sold the product. If every team
captain signs up 4 who sign up 4 etc. there is room for how many of
First you need a team that is highly familiar with VoIP, Asterisk, SER, CCM, SIP, IAX, H323, etc. That's not something a few posts on a mailing list or even reading some books can give you. You need people who are very familiar with these technologies and have hands on experience. If you are
Sorry for posting this! I overlooked this being posted on the -biz listEhsan: My consulting services are avaliable at a rate of $125/hour if you need further assistance with your business, please contact me off-list.
On 11/2/06, Andrew Joakimsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
First you need a team
I was saying that public Internet links are okay, just a lot better the
fewer AS's you pass through. Almost as good as a private link.
Mike Hammett
Intelligent Computing Solutions
http://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From: Henry.L.Coleman [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Commercial
Almost is ok for some things. A business phone is not one of them.
-Original Message-
From: Mike Hammett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006 10:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
Discussion
Subject: Re: [asterisk-biz] New
Andrew,
thank you for saving me the time of pointing out the differences!
M
Andrew Joakimsen wrote:
You should have read that link you posted.
"Some people confuse pyramid and Ponzi schemes with legitimate
multilevel marketing. Multilevel marketing programs are known as MLM's,(4)
and
Paul wrote:
1) Look at the compensation plan.
2) Look at the original Ponzi case.
3) Do the math.
The US population recently hit 300 million. Let's be generous and assume
that all of them, even newborns can be sold the product. If every team
captain signs up 4 who sign up 4 etc. there is room
Matt wrote:
Just curious.. what are you using to determine if someone is a
'member'? That is.. how do you determine if the call is off-network
or in-network?
This is not done on asterisk, by the time the call hits asterisk it is
either voicemail or a PSTN call.
M
IP: 64.34.163.35EMAIL: @bigstring.comdialing middle eastern , paying paypal ,Got a few providers puzzled.. all chargebacked, fraud.
pass the word/ block / monitor these-- MikeSales Managerhttp://www.theclubvoip.comMaking it happen1.877.807.VOIP (8647)
in this thread please post any country you consider high risk..Let build a null route for unverified/unthrusted users.. or the like..ill start withisrael, irak.--
MikeSales Managerhttp://www.theclubvoip.comMaking it happen1.877.807.VOIP (8647)
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Unless, the provider owns the physical network, and can guarantee
end-to-end qos...
-Original Message-From: Kerry Garrison
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sent: Thursday, November 02,
2006 8:45 AMTo: Commercial and Business-Oriented Asterisk
DiscussionSubject: RE: [asterisk-biz]
Hi Mike,
Not that I am offended or anything regarding Israel.. but I'm curious
why, or based on what basis you include Israel into the blacklist.
Thanks, Tomer (from Israel).
Mike Lynchfield wrote:
in this thread please post any country you consider high
risk..
Let build a null route
As a general rule don't do business with klingons
Mike Lynchfield wrote:
in this thread please post any country you consider high risk..
Let build a null route for unverified/unthrusted users.. or the like..
ill start with
israel
, irak.
--
Mike
Sales Manager
The business user can still have it both ways. You keep a couple of pots
lines available and let them use those when VoIP is iffy, otherwise they are
able to take complete advantage of low cost long distance, or even free LD
if making calls between IP PBX systems.
Don't throw out the baby
Unfortunately the whole Middle-East is suspect. I'd rank Jordan and Egypt up there. Seen some fraudsters route alot of calls to Iraq cellular... which because they fraudulently obtained service, the destination numbers were gladfully turned over to a US intelligence agency.
in this thread please
You can't control QOS over the web
Best regards,
Al Bochter
Bochter Services
http://www.BochterServices.com/?t=Email
Are you outside of the US?
Do you need to call US Toll Free Numbers?
We can help you save money on calling US toll free numbers.
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little presentation is bad..
pots uses more bandwith then voip ?
ok heres a fact.. IF u use gsm /g729 or any crappy compression method
sure..
else its the same.. if not worst... raw slin pstn = ~8k
ulaw = 11k 8k + 2-3 k overhead.. plus packet losses ,
retrasmits... etc..
you cant
Good point. That is actually what I do. It's not mostly VoIP and some
POT's though. It's mostly POT's and some VoIP. It automatically goes to
VoIP for LD but local is POT's. Most customer calls are local for me
anyways. LD is usually suppliers so I don't need perfect sound and no
delay.
Or Romulans with their damn cloaking phones :)On 11/2/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
As a general rule don't do business with klingonsMike Lynchfield wrote: in this thread please post any country you consider high risk.. Let build a null route for unverified/unthrusted users.. or the like..
For what it's worth I started configuring voip in june 06 and now I am using
and deploying gateways for call center apps. Read - read - test - test
Mark Adams
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kendall
Sent: Thursday, November 02, 2006
I have had a technical issue with
GloboTech Communications (gtcomm.net) for a while now, and I cant seem
to get their customer service engaged to get things resolved.
Has anyone dealt with them in the
past? Any suggestions?
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Ehasan,
We do all the similar things, but @ $75/hour :)
We can be your end to end solution provider, right from the initial
installation , configuration to procuring DIDs, inbound,outbound
calling minutes to worldwide locations.
Looking forward to hear from you,
Thanks Regards,
Mitul
Hello,
We have deployed Asterisk in several parts of India, and being Official
Digium Hardware reseller, we can provide all the digium cards that you
would want.
Apart from that, we also run the Indian Asterisk User Community forum :
http://asterisk.pbx.in/, this may allow you to choose
Yeah i dealt with them and figured my things out , all the times i was
unhappy it was my fault ,bad configuration and such.
they know what theyre doing and doing it right. , not sure whats your
beef here ;)
do you need a hand configuring your asterisk box ?
Ron McLeod wrote:
I have
Sure you can... bigger, more direct
pipes. ;-) Well, okay, not exactly the same, but accomplished the
same goal.
Mike HammettIntelligent Computing Solutionshttp://www.ics-il.com
- Original Message -
From:
Al Bochter
To: Commercial and Business-Oriented
Asterisk
Somebody do the math correctly and answer my question. Then it will be
an end-full debate.
Again, the math is simple, the average person will introduce somewhere
between 0 and 10 members. Nobody said that everybody will sign up 4 (or
87,000).
The important thing is that even if a member
Hi,
I understand from your email that you will be
visiting India soon. If you like we can fix up appointment for meeting at our
office at MIDC, Andherinext to Mumbai Airport. I can demonstrate many
features of our setup.
With best Regards,
Kumar DoshiNet Solutions Inc.402, Orchid, Sec
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