Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-23 Thread Eric Chamberlain
Yehavi, You might want to check out some of the EDUCAUSE http://www.educause.edu mailing-lists to find out what other universities are doing. -- Eric Chamberlain ___ -- Bandwidth and Colocation Provided by http://www.api-digital.com --

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-22 Thread Tim Panton
On 22 Nov 2008, at 00:06, Michael Collins wrote: Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:20:28 -0600 From: Terry Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Gordon Henderson
On Fri, 21 Nov 2008, Al Baker wrote: Remember - You are going from a CARRIER GRADE purpose built piece of hardware with Software built under a rigid CMM with extensive soak-testing to software that has been developed under , shall we say, a somewhat less rigid and stringent methodology. You

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread EdPimentl
Strongly suggest to consider a Freeswitch/OpenSER implementation instead. Regarding purpose built and supported software.sometimes throwning billions of CMM software development to a product does not guarantee a good product... look at Micro$oft Vista. E http://Gpro.ws

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Grygoriy Dobrovolskyy
2008/11/21 Yehavi Bourvine [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hello, Our university has to upgrade soon its old Nortel PBX's which holds around 10,000 extensions tied to 5 PBXes. Up to now we thought about commercial solutions but now there is a window openning for open source solution. However, I need

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
Thanks to everyone who replies so far! We have Nortel PBX'es with a support contract from one of the local VARs (Nortel does not give direct support here). In the last two weeks we had one of our exchanges down for three half days; one was after a failure, and the other two were when the

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread RE Kushner List Account
Yehavi Bourvine wrote: Thanks to everyone who replies so far! We have Nortel PBX'es with a support contract from one of the local VARs (Nortel does not give direct support here). In the last two weeks we had one of our exchanges down for three half days; one was after a failure, and

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Al Baker wrote: Remember - You are going from a CARRIER GRADE purpose built piece of hardware with Software built under a rigid CMM with extensive soak-testing to software that has been developed under , shall we say, a somewhat less rigid and stringent methodology. You will be moving

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Noah Miller
Due diligence is required on anything 10,000 people are going to be pounding on. Undersizing is common, I think due diligence is THE key with any open source solution, including asterisk. I'll admit that I pretty badly screwed up one asterisk installation because I didn't adequately prepare it

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Noah Miller wrote: With that many extensions, I'll second using a SIP registrar like Freeswitch or OpenSer. Just use asterisk to provide the services. Third. -- Alex Balashov Evariste Systems Web: http://www.evaristesys.com/ Tel: (+1) (678) 954-0670 Direct : (+1) (678) 954-0671

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: [..snip..] With that many extensions, I'll second using a SIP registrar like Freeswitch or OpenSer. Just use asterisk to provide the services. Is Asterisk even needed? - Gonzalo

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..snip..] With that many extensions, I'll second using a SIP registrar like Freeswitch or OpenSer. Just use asterisk to provide the services. Is

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread RE Kushner List Account
Noah Miller wrote: and is only one of the roads that leads to Hell (I prefer Patterson Lake Road myself since I drive in from the North East). Hmm. You must live near Ann Arbor. No, northern suburbs of Detroit. M-59 to US-23 S to M-36 W..To S. Howell St..Patterson Lake Rd..To

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [..snip..] With that many extensions, I'll second using a SIP registrar like

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Noah Miller
Is Asterisk even needed? Potentially, no. But if you intend to provide subscriber/PBX features, it is needed as a UA feature box(s). And FreeSWITCH can't handle that? Freeswitch can provide many PBX features with additional modules, but asterisk can provide more, and its implementations

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:48 PM, Alex Balashov [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Gonzalo Servat wrote: On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 1:29 PM, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Gonzalo Servat
On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 2:49 PM, Noah Miller [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: And FreeSWITCH can't handle that? Freeswitch can provide many PBX features with additional modules, but asterisk can provide more, and its implementations of such items are more time tested. One of freeswitch's big

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
I know that in the past there have been people on this list who have done very large scale asterisk deployments. Not sure if any of them are still around to comment. With that many extensions, I'll second using a SIP registrar like Freeswitch or OpenSer. Just use asterisk to provide

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Yehavi Bourvine wrote: OK, but I still did not get a reply to my original question: Why using SIP registrar in front of Asterisk and not simply use bare Astersik? can't it handle the load? (remember - in my case it doesn't handle the RTP, only signalling). Can't it handle so much

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Alex Balashov
Alex Balashov wrote: Yehavi Bourvine wrote: OK, but I still did not get a reply to my original question: Why using SIP registrar in front of Asterisk and not simply use bare Astersik? can't it handle the load? (remember - in my case it doesn't handle the RTP, only signalling). Can't it

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Terry Wilson
Yehavi Bourvine wrote: OK, but I still did not get a reply to my original question: Why using SIP registrar in front of Asterisk and not simply use bare Astersik? can't it handle the load? (remember - in my case it doesn't handle the RTP, only signalling). Can't it handle so much

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Terry Wilson
I've looked at doing various things to chan_sip to improve signaling performance (hash tables for call lookups, etc.) I gave up when I realized that the overhead of handling the RTP was so far above the overhead of processing SIP signaling that it didn't really matter much. The only reason

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-21 Thread Michael Collins
Date: Fri, 21 Nov 2008 16:20:28 -0600 From: Terry Wilson [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com

[asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-20 Thread Yehavi Bourvine
Hello, Our university has to upgrade soon its old Nortel PBX's which holds around 10,000 extensions tied to 5 PBXes. Up to now we thought about commercial solutions but now there is a window openning for open source solution. However, I need examples to convince that this solution is feasible,

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-20 Thread Dan Austin
Yehavi wrote: Our university has to upgrade soon its old Nortel PBX's which holds around 10,000 extensions tied to 5 PBXes. Up to now we thought about commercial solutions but now there is a window openning for open source solution. However, I need examples to convince that this solution is

Re: [asterisk-users] Large Asterisk installarions (~10, 000 extensions), preferably at universities

2008-11-20 Thread Al Baker
Dan Austin wrote: Yehavi wrote: Our university has to upgrade soon its old Nortel PBX's which holds around 10,000 extensions tied to 5 PBXes. Up to now we thought about commercial solutions but now there is a window openning for open source solution. However, I need examples to