Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-16 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 16 Nov 2012, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Paul Belanger paul.belan...@polybeacon.com [2012.11.08.2304 +0100]: Either way, it sounds like you need to store your data some place and start building it out. To recap: given that Asterisk RealTime doesn't really provide

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-16 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org [2012.11.16.1005 +0100]: Warning: Not a fan of using whitespace as semantic markup, so no Django this side. Fine with Perl or Java, though. As long as we can agree on using a database (i.e. no MySQL) or the filesystem (Git…), then the

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-16 Thread Raj Mathur (राज माथुर)
On Friday 16 Nov 2012, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Raj Mathur (राज माथुर) r...@linux-delhi.org [2012.11.16.1005 +0100]: Warning: Not a fan of using whitespace as semantic markup, so no Django this side. Fine with Perl or Java, though. As long as we can agree on using a database

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-15 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul Belanger paul.belan...@polybeacon.com [2012.11.08.2304 +0100]: Either way, it sounds like you need to store your data some place and start building it out. To recap: given that Asterisk RealTime doesn't really provide anything more than real-time access to data (i.e. the data

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-08 Thread Johan Wilfer
2012-11-08 00:26, Jeff LaCoursiere skrev: On 11/07/2012 05:20 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: On 11/07/2012 02:16 PM, Johan Wilfer wrote: 2012-11-07 20:49, Jeff LaCoursiere skrev: Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-08 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com [2012.11.07.2049 +0100]: Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level virtualization to run multiple instances of asterisk (and even FreePBX). We use LXC to do this. The host

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-08 Thread Julian Lyndon-Smith
A newbie question : Can each LXC client have their own ip address ? Thanks Julian On 8 November 2012 07:17, Olivier oza_4...@yahoo.fr wrote: 2012/11/7 Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-08 Thread Shaun Ruffell
On Thu, Nov 08, 2012 at 07:41:45AM +0100, martin f krafft wrote: My systems are already managed automatically, thankfully no longer with Puppet. ;) Just out of curiosity why do you say this? -- Shaun Ruffell Digium, Inc. | Linux Kernel Developer 445 Jan Davis Drive NW - Huntsville, AL 35806

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-08 Thread Hans Witvliet
On Thu, 2012-11-08 at 10:07 +0100, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com [2012.11.07.2049 +0100]: Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level virtualization to run multiple instances of

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-08 Thread Paul Belanger
On 12-11-08 01:41 AM, martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Paul Belanger paul.belan...@polybeacon.com [2012.11.07.2340 +0100]: What is your point of pain? Right now we do most of the configuration, provisioning, and system management outside of asterisk. My systems are already managed

[asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
Hello, we are finally going to redesign our Asterisk-Setup, which has grown quite complex. We have five sites with a total of 400 users, 15 SIP registrations and 3 IAX registrations. We do not use any VoIP-hardware, so it's all software-based. But we make heavy use of features, including

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
Can Asterisk do virtual hosting? While I want/need the sites to be hosted by the same instance (so that e.g. calls can be transferred easily), I don't want to have to name my peers [site1-john], and I want people to be able to SIP-dial j...@site1.example.org and j...@site2.example.org and trust

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Joshua Colp
martin f krafft wrote: Can Asterisk do virtual hosting? While I want/need the sites to be hosted by the same instance (so that e.g. calls can be transferred easily), I don't want to have to name my peers [site1-john], and I want people to be able to SIP-dial j...@site1.example.org and

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Joshua Colp jc...@digium.com [2012.11.07.1831 +0100]: Peer names have to be distinct, this is just a fundamental design element of chan_sip. What a lot of people end up doing is instead of treating peers as people they treat them as devices. The peer name becomes the MAC address of

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Joshua Colp
martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Joshua Colpjc...@digium.com [2012.11.07.1831 +0100]: Peer names have to be distinct, this is just a fundamental design element of chan_sip. What a lot of people end up doing is instead of treating peers as people they treat them as devices. The peer name

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 11/07/2012 01:06 PM, Joshua Colp wrote: martin f krafft wrote: also sprach Joshua Colpjc...@digium.com [2012.11.07.1831 +0100]: Peer names have to be distinct, this is just a fundamental design element of chan_sip. What a lot of people end up doing is instead of treating peers as people

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Johan Wilfer
2012-11-07 20:49, Jeff LaCoursiere skrev: Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level virtualization to run multiple instances of asterisk (and even FreePBX). We use LXC to do this. The host runs an instance that has the

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Paul Belanger
On 12-11-07 05:41 AM, martin f krafft wrote: Hello, we are finally going to redesign our Asterisk-Setup, which has grown quite complex. We have five sites with a total of 400 users, 15 SIP registrations and 3 IAX registrations. We do not use any VoIP-hardware, so it's all software-based. But we

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 11/07/2012 02:16 PM, Johan Wilfer wrote: 2012-11-07 20:49, Jeff LaCoursiere skrev: Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level virtualization to run multiple instances of asterisk (and even FreePBX). We use LXC to do

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Jeff LaCoursiere
On 11/07/2012 05:20 PM, Jeff LaCoursiere wrote: On 11/07/2012 02:16 PM, Johan Wilfer wrote: 2012-11-07 20:49, Jeff LaCoursiere skrev: Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level virtualization to run multiple instances of

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Paul Belanger paul.belan...@polybeacon.com [2012.11.07.2340 +0100]: What is your point of pain? Right now we do most of the configuration, provisioning, and system management outside of asterisk. My systems are already managed automatically, thankfully no longer with Puppet. ;) I

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Logan Bibby
What about just setting up a database which stores your data however you want then generate static files from that data or creating views for realtime (where appropriate)? That's how I do it with my company's system. To keep things not so complicated, I have AGI scripts. Keeps things clean and

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread martin f krafft
also sprach Logan Bibby lo...@keobi.com [2012.11.08.0747 +0100]: What about just setting up a database which stores your data however you want then generate static files from that data or creating views for realtime (where appropriate)? Sure, I could do that. First, however, I would like to

Re: [asterisk-users] Managing complex setups with Asterisk

2012-11-07 Thread Olivier
2012/11/7 Jeff LaCoursiere j...@sunfone.com Just to chime in, if you REALLY want multi-tenant, it is super easy and surprisingly efficient to use kernel level virtualization to run multiple instances of asterisk (and even FreePBX). We use LXC to do this. The host runs an instance that has