On Wed, Jan 14, 2009 at 7:47 AM, Jai Rangi jpra...@gmail.com wrote:
Alex,
I must say wow, great explanation. It was a wonderful reading.
Thanks to everyone who made this interesting reading!
You're all invited to argue about this tomorrow, Friday the 15Th of
January at 12 Noon EST on the VoIP
Hi,
Inspired by a recent rant about one particular provider, I am getting
very curious about something I've never mastered. I'd like someone to
explain this here or at least post a link or two that can educate me
and probably countless others who have no knowledge in this area. I'm
sure there are
Hi Randulo,
I think this topic is probably more appropriate for asterisk-biz, as was
the aforementioned rant about one particular DID provider. But,
whatever - it is what it is.
I assume that by DID providers you are referring to origination -
that is, picking up calls on PSTN numbers and
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 10:49 AM, Alex Balashov
abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote:
I think this topic is probably more appropriate for asterisk-biz, as was
the aforementioned rant about one particular DID provider. But,
whatever - it is what it is.
Alex, thanks for the excellent explanations!
I will add that the model of the VoIP ITSP (be it a DID provider or a
termination provider) is inherently a squeezed one.
The original niche of these providers was to simply provide VoIP in the
first place; established carriers were used to dealing with TDM (hard,
synchronous circuits using
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 11:22 AM, Alex Balashov
abalas...@evaristesys.com wrote:
The original niche of these providers was to simply provide VoIP in the
first place; established carriers were used to dealing with TDM (hard,
synchronous circuits using ISDN or SS7) and had a lot invested in
randulo wrote:
Alex, thanks for the excellent explanations! Exactly what I was hoping
for.
Good! Glad to help.
Yes, in fact I should have said origination and termination.
Ah. Termination is a somewhat different game than origination. From a
technical point of view, most of what I said
randulo wrote:
When you think about the learning curve of the average asterisk
beginner, the picture painted for them is Become your own telco! and
we all know that's not exactly accurate. For the small asterisk
install it's much more accurate to say Get an enterprise-class pbx
free (if you
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, randulo wrote:
Hi,
Inspired by a recent rant about one particular provider, I am getting
very curious about something I've never mastered. I'd like someone to
explain this here or at least post a link or two that can educate me
and probably countless others who have no
The interesting thing about the UK is that you folks did local loop
deregulation right, unlike in the US, where it's vicious and toxic and
is mostly a story about the bewildering multitude of ways in which the
incumbents screw competitive CLECs.
No, the results of the BT bifurcation isn't
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
The interesting thing about the UK is that you folks did local loop
deregulation right, unlike in the US, where it's vicious and toxic and
is mostly a story about the bewildering multitude of ways in which the
incumbents screw competitive CLECs.
For
I'm really liking Flowroute right now and have switched most of my
did's to them. As with many of the providers lately, they are pre-
pay... but the site is nice and payments move quickly. What I really
like about Flowroute is the no-minimum, diversity of plans, cost, and
unlimited channel
Gordon Henderson wrote:
On Tue, 13 Jan 2009, Alex Balashov wrote:
The interesting thing about the UK is that you folks did local loop
deregulation right, unlike in the US, where it's vicious and toxic and
is mostly a story about the bewildering multitude of ways in which the
incumbents
Managing financial exposure on postpaid can be hard stuff. Some give up
on it.
Also, despite the fact that it's a well-known and tiresome boondoggle -
as well as a fairly moribund loophole - at this point, there seems to be
no shortage of VoIP outfits blundering their way into the carrier
Excellent explanation, Alex.
What's interesting is the number of caveats and mixes even in the CLEC
and ILEC world. I work with a CLEC that is also an ILEC (in certain
areas), since they encompass various areas in Georgia (and own the
state's largest contiguous network, passing through old rural
Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.com writes:
There are no exceptions to this rule; numbers are assigned to carriers
and are switched and routed by carriers. Where anyone is providing
DIDs, there is a UC (Underlying Carrier) involved that is actually doing
the hauling relative to the
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 3:11 PM, Benny Amorsen benny+use...@amorsen.dk wrote:
PS: Sorry if this seems like an advertisement, but I do believe that
what we are doing is a new and exciting direction for Asterisk. Like
in my other posts, I have avoided mentioning the company I work for.
Not at
SIP wrote:
What's interesting is the number of caveats and mixes even in the CLEC
and ILEC world. I work with a CLEC that is also an ILEC (in certain
areas), since they encompass various areas in Georgia (and own the
state's largest contiguous network, passing through old rural ILEC lines
Benny Amorsen wrote:
Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.com writes:
There are no exceptions to this rule; numbers are assigned to carriers
and are switched and routed by carriers. Where anyone is providing
DIDs, there is a UC (Underlying Carrier) involved that is actually doing
the
Alex Balashov wrote:
SIP wrote:
What's interesting is the number of caveats and mixes even in the CLEC
and ILEC world. I work with a CLEC that is also an ILEC (in certain
areas), since they encompass various areas in Georgia (and own the
state's largest contiguous network, passing
SIP wrote:
I don't know that the price of UNE DS1s and DS3s is really all that
exceptional. Sure, it seems impressive that you can get a T1 in LATA
438 for some odd $44, but once you factor in the costs of
interconnection, CO colocation, EELs and interoffice mileage if not
colocated in
Alex,
I must say wow, great explanation. It was a wonderful reading.
Best,
-Jai
On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 1:49 AM, Alex Balashov abalas...@evaristesys.comwrote:
Hi Randulo,
I think this topic is probably more appropriate for asterisk-biz, as was
the aforementioned rant about one particular
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