RE: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-16 Thread Rich
] On Behalf Of Bruce Komito Sent: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 19:11 To: Chad Wicker Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers I don't doubt at all what you are saying. We never tested a truly high-end solution such as the one you described, because the cost

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Bruce Komito
We looked at this earlier this year and, after evaluating several companies, could not get it to work well enough. The problem didn't seem to be latency, but rather lost packets in the upstream direction. Most of the time, we couldn't even get the phone to register, but even when we could, there

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread bryan hepworth
Hi All, I am investigating the deployment of VoIP/* in Eastern European areas where there is no PSTN infrastructure. As you can understand DSL/Cable connections are a dream. The only option is satellite. Does anyone know of any satellite providers that have low enough/acceptable delays for

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Max W Blackmer Jr
Satellite delays are always bad. It is more a delay because of the time it takes a signal to travel to the satellite and back to a receiving station. You might want to check into ground station to station microwave communications stations. The best is to have a tap to a phone company that may

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread John Dunham
: Wednesday, May 11, 2005 1:30 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers Hi All, I am investigating the deployment of VoIP/* in Eastern European areas where there is no PSTN infrastructure. As you can understand DSL/Cable

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Michael D Schelin
The delay in the air is minor. Radio travels very fast through the air. Almost at the speed of light. It's the electronics that are causing the delays. The less electronics touching your signal the better. The up and down is very fast. But then you have all the converts and the land line

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Michael Welter
Michael D Schelin wrote: The delay in the air is minor. Radio travels very fast through the air. Almost at the speed of light. It's the electronics that are causing the delays. The less electronics touching your signal the better. The up and down is very fast. But then you have all the

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Chad Wicker
Well there are several problems in your description of Satellite services. For one you are grouping several differing technilogies together as one. What it seemed like you were testing was a shared bandwidth solution typically used by providers to reduce cost. It isn't uncommon to experience

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Bill Ford
The altitude of a geostationary satellite is about 37500 km for a round trip distance of aboyt 75000 km. Light travels at 300,000 km/second, so you have a latency of about 250 ms per hop. That is just for the transit time to and from the bird. Since you have a two way conversation, a caller asking

Re: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Asterisk
Aparantly Light Travels Faster in your world than it does in mine. As an example, A new Satellite that was launched Just a few days ago (April 26) is in orbit at 22,300 MILES above earth. Assuming that both ends of the transmission are directly below the Satellite (Which they will not

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Steve Underwood
Michael Welter wrote: Michael D Schelin wrote: The delay in the air is minor. Radio travels very fast through the air. Almost at the speed of light. It's the electronics that are causing the delays. The less electronics touching your signal the better. The up and down is very fast. But then

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Bruce Komito Sent: Thursday, 12 May 2005 4:07 AM To: Yiannis Costopoulos Cc: asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers We looked at this earlier

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Bruce Komito
I don't doubt at all what you are saying. We never tested a truly high-end solution such as the one you described, because the cost would have been prohibitive for our application. I'm sure we only evaluated shared solutions. I guess my mistake was believing the CIR claims. At the really

RE: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Chris Mason
The delay in the air is minor. Radio travels very fast through the air. Almost at the speed of light. It may travel very fast but its also a very long way, 22,000 miles up, then 22,000 miles down, then the same all over again. The latency for satellite is about 500ms round trip,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] Satellite Providers

2005-05-11 Thread Bill Ford
Even though radio travels very fast ...300,000 km/s (186,000 mph) the speed is finite. As I said In my previous post...the satellite is located 34,500 km (22,500 mi.) above the equator. That makes for a round trip of 75,000 km (45,000 mi). Even at the speed of light, this makes for a significant