Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-06-02 Thread Walt Reed
See http://www.windsun.com/Batteries/Battery_FAQ.htm Even deep cycle marine batteries can be crappy, with many actually being a combination of starting / deepcycle. The primary difference is the plates. Good deep cycles have thick lead plates. Industrial batteries should last longer. Car

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-06-01 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Daryl G. Jurbala wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Michel Hiver Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:22 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-06-01 Thread Terry H. Gilsenan
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Michel Hiver Sent: Wednesday, 1 June 2005 6:45 PM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box Daryl G. Jurbala

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-06-01 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
I have many sites that have a 35amp Charger with 2 x 400ah 900CCA deep cycle batteries (10 year warranty), and 1000VA inverters. Those deep cycles batteries look quite appropriate... in which kind of store do you get them? The combination makes for perfect power and about 2.5 days run

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-06-01 Thread Rich Adamson
I have many sites that have a 35amp Charger with 2 x 400ah 900CCA deep cycle batteries (10 year warranty), and 1000VA inverters. Those deep cycles batteries look quite appropriate... in which kind of store do you get them? In the US just about any store that sells batteries including

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-06-01 Thread Daryl G. Jurbala
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Terry H. Gilsenan Sent: Wednesday, June 01, 2005 5:05 AM To: 'Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion' Subject: RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box I have

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread TinKoon
Hi, Let me try to answer this one. Assuming your P3-800 is using a 300watt power supply, then in a full load condition, convert to VA, it will be 300/0.6=500VA. So, it is greater than your small 400VA box. So, you need a bigger ups. Of course, if your power usage is actually much lower than

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Jean-Michel Hiver
Another thing to consider regarding the ups is the runtime, depending on the hours and minutes you want the ups to supply power to your asterisk box, you may need to add more batteries to the ups. Regarding this, I have done this hack yesterday: - Remove the battery from an existing UPS -

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Wilson Pickett
Assuming your P3-800 is using a 300watt power supply, then in a full load condition, convert to VA, it will be 300/0.6=500VA. So, it is Thanks for that info. Where does the /0.6 come from? I've always wondered about VA which looks like VoltAmps. There are 400, 500 and 600VA models. The

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Dave Cotton
On Tue, 2005-05-31 at 13:22 +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Another thing to consider regarding the ups is the runtime, depending on the hours and minutes you want the ups to supply power to your asterisk box, you may need to add more batteries to the ups. Regarding this, I have done

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread TinKoon
Normally, the power factor is taken as 0.6, thus to convert watt to va, just divid the wattage by 0.6 to get the va rating. cheer Wilson Pickett wrote: Assuming your P3-800 is using a 300watt power supply, then in a full load condition, convert to VA, it will be 300/0.6=500VA. So, it is

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Wilson Pickett
Another thing to consider regarding the ups is the runtime, depending on the hours and minutes you want the ups to supply power to your asterisk box, you may need to add more batteries to the ups. No worry there, since the modems (upstairs) will be unpowered as well. Although the asterisk

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Colin Anderson
I have a PIII-800 box with two X100P and one TDM400P plus graphics adapter, an IDE hard drive etc. Will a small 400VA box be enough for this? It's tricky sizing UPS'es to be bang on the money. The rule-of-thumb calculation for VA is watts/.6 . So, for a 200 watt power supply / .6 is 333 VA.

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Daryl G. Jurbala
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jean-Michel Hiver Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 5:22 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box [...] Regarding

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Jay Milk
Message- From: Jean-Michel Hiver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 4:22 AM To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box - Remove the battery from an existing UPS - Rewire the UPS onto

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Andrew Kohlsmith
On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:50, Daryl G. Jurbala wrote: Kidsdo NOT try this at home. The inverters in small UPSes are not designed to deal with runtimes that exceed the batteries in them. If you run this setup well past the time it was designed to run (by adding 3, 4, or more times that

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Andrew Latham
get a kill-a-watt or lacrosse power monitor for $30 and leave it running for a few days. then you can sort throw the data and know what your power draw really is.. On 5/31/05, Andrew Kohlsmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 31 May 2005 10:50, Daryl G. Jurbala wrote: Kidsdo NOT try

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Nick
Use deep cycle marine batteries or similar. Car batteries arn't really designed for long low power, they're designed for CCA, high output short burst. Nick On Tue, May 31, 2005 at 01:22:09PM +0400, Jean-Michel Hiver wrote: Another thing to consider regarding the ups is the runtime,

Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Preston Garrison
-4140 -Original Message- From: Andrew Latham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion asterisk-users@lists.digium.com Sent: Tue, 31 May 2005 14:59:24 -0500 Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box get a kill-a-watt or lacrosse

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Chris Mason (Lists)
Living in the Caribbean, this is a big issue for us. I would avoid the little SOHO UPS units, they will not last very long. Always over rate your UPS and I would not play with external batteries, it is more trouble than it is worth. You can buy refurbushed 3U rack mount UPS on Ebay for little

RE: [Asterisk-Users] UPS rating for SOHO asterisk box

2005-05-31 Thread Max W Blackmer Jr
Hello, APC has a nice selector tool on their website. http://www.apc.com/tools/ups_selector/index.cfm It asks several questions to recommend an APC solution. it even gives you a percentage of the capacity of the ups systems capacity. Original Message From: Wilson Pickett