if the goal is to design an informative download indicator menu, i
seriously would want to consider listing *all* download bandwidth
relevant processes the user called himself - including update
manager's package downloads..
I think it makes more sense to restrict the usage of a download
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 08:11, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
I think it makes more sense to restrict the usage of a download
indicator to specific I want to save this file here request.
This is not the case for an update, the download is simply part
of the process and later
On 22/04/10 04:27, Robin Anderson wrote:
One important point I hope the design team is aware of and that gets
into discussions on this topic is that minimizing to the notification
area / (not) system tray is currently a very nice place to put
applications so they're accessible from all
While I like the basic concept, there are going to be severe limits. First
off, what about vertical desktops? I have a 2x 2 setup, and its worked
wonders for me for keeping organized. I personally can't stand the stick em
all in the line organization. Secondly, do we want to implement adding
On 22 April 2010 03:49, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
do a half-hearted job - we ship what's there but as you say, only
configure two
While I like the basic concept, there are going to be severe limits.
First off, what about vertical desktops? I have a 2x 2 setup, and its
worked wonders for me for keeping organized. I personally can't stand
the stick em all in the line organization.
Can you please elaborate more on how
Since I just joined this list I don't know of an easy way to reply to the
messages sent so far in this thread so I'll say here, I definitely agree
with everything in the thread so far; quality suggestions.
For how to have minimized applications available on all workspaces: My first
thought was
Oops, sorry I didn't see this thread until after I hit send. Please
consider my most recent email in the other thread to be part of this one.
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 1:55 AM, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.comwrote:
While I like the basic concept, there are going to be severe limits.
I really should be going to bed but this is some interesting stuff.
I thought of maybe bringing up adding workspaces on-the-fly but dropped it
when I thought of a person that had no experience with multiple workspaces
say open an application set to create a new workspace and being
On 22 April 2010 08:49, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
do a half-hearted job - we ship what's there but as you say, only
configure two workspaces. I'd be
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
do a half-hearted job - we ship what's there but as you say, only
configure
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:49 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
On 22/04/10 04:27, Robin Anderson wrote:
One important point I hope the design team is aware of and that gets
into discussions on this topic is that minimizing to the notification
area / (not) system tray is currently a very nice
On Wed, 2010-04-21 at 20:27 -0700, Robin Anderson wrote:
One important point I hope the design team is aware of and that gets
into discussions on this topic is that minimizing to the notification
area / (not) system tray is currently a very nice place to put
applications so they're accessible
Just to make sure you get enough feedback...
Workspaces is the one feature that made me think my Linux desktop is
clearly superior to windows. The ability to organize niches for
different uses like work, internet, fun (music and video), and easily
switch between then is great. Instead of getting
On 22 April 2010 10:27, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
A tabbed system like Robin mentioned sounds very nice to me for two
reasons: first, it's very familiar as tabbed browsers are nearly
ubiquitous now. Second, am I the only one here annoyed at the fact that
there is a *huge*
I think we should coordinate this with Gnome, and ask them whether
they're going to do anything with that space in Gnome Shell. It would
be stupid to design something awesome, then realise that Shell uses
that space for a essential part of its functionality.
From the current state, it seems
I also run maximus to eliminate the space-wasting titlebar.
Test-driving GNOME Shell, I am waiting for a (native) global menu. At
the moment, I am torn between the two approaches to use the space in
the titlebar: window list or menu. It may be best to use only icons
for the windows (like
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 13:15 +0200, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
I do not use workspaces at all. Neither do I have a bottom panel. The
waste of space on the top panel has become the area for the »tabs« –
the window list applet. That way I can comfortably change between
full-screen
Conscious User:
1) Communicating the goals and current status to end users. The amount
of people who think the messaging menu is only a launcher, for
example, is overwhelming. And I cannot really blame them in those
cases. What should I say? Well, it's obvious if you were subscribed
in the
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On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 23:04, Shane Fagan
shanepatrickfa...@ubuntu.com wrote:
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I think the target is far enough but I wouldnt like to remove it from
the default install until upstreams adopt the new
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Jim Rorie wrote on 22/04/10 01:42:
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A prominent example is that of the music player. Short of having a
window open to get in your way, the NA icon gives you a way to control
the player with a minimum number of clicks and no window management
I think a first step towards making Tasque work with Ubuntu One could be
moving it to using CouchDB for it's own storage. The best person to
talk to about this is Stuart Langridge, see https://launchpad.net/~sil
https://launchpad.net/%7Esil.
On 22/04/2010 06:56, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
good
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Dylan McCall wrote on 22/04/10 04:50:
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First of all, I think it would be worth investigating sound effects
attached to indicators. Doing it through the indicator applet means we
can (if desired) use Canberra's awesome ca_gtk_play_for_widget
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Conscious User wrote on 21/04/10 22:28:
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As a regular reader of Ubuntu Forums, I know for a fact that there are
two things in Ayatana that really need improving:
1) Communicating the goals and current status to end users. The amount
of people
On 22 April 2010 12:59, Vishnoo wrote:
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:49 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
On 22/04/10 04:27, Robin Anderson wrote:
It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
do a
That's true, we haven't done as good a job of communication in the past
as we could have. But we're working on improving it. For this issue
yesterday there were posts on design.canonical.com,
markshuttleworth.com, this mailing list, Twitter, and Identica.
And I thank you and Mark for those,
On 22 April 2010 15:24, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 10:27, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment, we
do a half-hearted job
On 21 April 2010 22:44, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote:
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Hi folks
On the new Canonical Design site, we've just posted an overview of our
plan to retire the notification area (a.k.a. system tray) from Ubuntu
by 11.04.
I brainstormed a little on your mockup. The attached image shows
workspaces as tabs, and inside it are the actual applications.
This could easily carry dock functionality as well, where you pin some
applications to a particular workspace.
--
Remco
Interestingly I was just about to post a response to this thread with
a similar idea...
The main problem I find with workspaces is their interaction with the
window list. It would be nice if all applications were visible on the
window list all the time *but* grouped into workspaces with an
I've just been thinking about the new indicators, and how there were
some complaints about it adding a click to get to stuff in the menus.
Then I thought, it would be pretty cool if all the menus on the panel
(including Applications, Places, System, Me menu, Indicators and the
calendar ) opened on
On Thursday 22,April,2010 10:48 PM, Frederik Nnaji wrote:
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 15:12, John Lea john@canonical.com wrote:
I think a first step towards making Tasque work with Ubuntu One could be
moving it to using CouchDB for it's own storage. The best person to talk to
about this is
On Thursday 22,April,2010 10:51 PM, Luke Benstead wrote:
I've just been thinking about the new indicators, and how there were
some complaints about it adding a click to get to stuff in the menus.
Then I thought, it would be pretty cool if all the menus on the panel
(including Applications,
Hyia, you might want to post this to the
ubuntuone-us...@lists.launchpad.net mailing list. I'm not sure if any
of the developers working with CouchDB subscribe to this list, so you
may not get a answer to your question here.
On 22/04/2010 16:29, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
On Thursday
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:16, John Lea john@canonical.com wrote:
Hyia, you might want to post this to the ubuntuone-us...@lists.launchpad.net
mailing list. I'm not sure if any of the developers working with CouchDB
subscribe to this list, so you may not get a answer to your question here.
On 22 April 2010 17:30, Chow Loong Jin wrote:
On Thursday 22,April,2010 10:51 PM, Luke Benstead wrote:
Then I thought, it would be pretty cool if all the menus on the panel
(including Applications, Places, System, Me menu, Indicators and the
calendar ) opened on hover. That would reduce pretty
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:35, Diego Moya turi...@gmail.com wrote:
It makes the accidental hover over these menus a lot more painful. I'd rather
not have this.
i can imagine a proficient hacker would not care about too much of
this, his hands being on the keyboard most of the time.
Ditto. But
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Jeremy Nickurak wrote on 21/04/10 21:58:
AFAIK, this is a major deviation from what upstream and other
distributions are doing, even larger than that of notify-osd.
We'll be working as closely as possible with the developers of all those
Conscious User wrote:
1) Communicating the goals and current status to end users. The amount
of people who think the messaging menu is only a launcher, for
example, is overwhelming.
If people don't figure out how to use something we designed, the answer
is to improve the design, and not to
I think this has some potential. We could at the very least give it a test
run during the maverick alphas.
On 22 Apr 2010 18:50, Frederik Nnaji frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 18:35, Diego Moya turi...@gmail.com wrote:
It makes the accidental hove...
i can imagine a
On 22 April 2010 18:14, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Conscious User wrote:
1) Communicating the goals and current status to end users. The amount
of people who think the messaging menu is only a launcher, for
example, is overwhelming.
If people don't figure out how to use
Hello Mark,
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 08:49 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
It's a good point. The workspaces experience has languished, and I'd
like for us to climb in and improve it substantially. At the moment,
we
do a half-hearted job - we ship what's there but as you say, only
configure two
I think we need to focus a bit more on the fundamental reasons why we use
workspaces. I for one often switch to a new workspace because i don't want
to see any of what i was working on before. I don't want tabs from before,
apps from before, any single thing, just a clean, open, new desktop. The
I think we need to focus a bit more on the fundamental reasons why we
use workspaces. I for one often switch to a new workspace because i
don't want to see any of what i was working on before. I don't want
tabs from before, apps from before, any single thing, just a clean,
open, new desktop.
Specifically concerning the idea of a constant place to minimize windows
too, on a parallel fork of the original email run, we've been discussing
this. I don't know if anyone likes my idea as of yet, but I'm going to keep
repeating it anyway. :D
The beginning of the discussion centered on an idea
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 22:47, Tyler Brainerd tylerbrain...@gmail.com wrote:
I think we need to focus a bit more on the fundamental reasons why we use
workspaces. I for one often switch to a new workspace because i don't want
to see any of what i was working on before. I don't want tabs from
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 22:40, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
If people don't figure out how to use something we designed, the answer
is to improve the design, and not to mount a campaign to educate them :-)
By which I mean that the pieces should feel more natural, and getting
In interest of further and slightly more organized discussion, I'm finally
starting a blog that I've been meaning to for sometime, about usability (I
know, another one) in the interest of eventually developing ideas, not just
talking about them. If you're interested in any of the idea's I've
On Thu, Apr 22, 2010 at 4:13 AM, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.comwrote:
You might want to take a look at those:
DockbarX
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php?content=101604
Talika
http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Talika+applet?content=118267
Thanks for those, they look
I think a distinction should be made between what would work well on
desktops and what would work well on netbooks. Using only maximized windows
on a 24in screen for example doesn't sound like something people would be
into.
As screen size gets bigger I see window management going more towards
Here's an idea for a kind of Mac OS X Expose fullscreen (in the way Apple's
Front Row fullscreens) way to move either windows or all windows of an
application from workspaces. Also is probably touch-friendly. I want to get
the general idea of moving windows/applications between workspaces by
Conor Curran has proposed merging lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/panning_bug_fix
into lp:indicator-sound.
Requested reviews:
Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)
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https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-sound/panning_bug_fix/+merge/23948
Your team ayatana-commits
The proposal to merge lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/panning_bug_fix into
lp:indicator-sound has been updated.
Status: Needs review = Merged
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https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-sound/panning_bug_fix/+merge/23948
Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch
Review: Approve
review approve
On Thu, 2010-04-22 at 18:30 +, Conor Curran wrote:
Conor Curran has proposed merging
lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/volume_setting_code_refactor into
lp:indicator-sound.
Requested reviews:
Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers)
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