On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 11:55, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
Some security updates are not active until you reboot. Period. If there is a
security problem in your kernel, you need a new kernel, and you need to boot
it. We're done a lot of work to minimise the number of cases where
And you think malware couldn't put up a systray icon tricking you into
thinking you have updates? You think you would be able to tell the
difference? The panel icon is just as fakeable as the popup.
Disagree. Because update-manager does not require gksudo, there is no
screen dimming or
Disagree. Because update-manager does not require gksudo, there is no
screen dimming or anything else that indicates in an obvious manner
that it is an actual update window and not a popup coming from the
browser.
(I'm not talking about popup in the browser window sense, I'm talking
about
On Fri, Apr 23, 2010 at 13:58, Diego Moya turi...@gmail.com wrote:
AFAIK the Tracker [1][2] project already does this. They even have
some support for Nautilus integration [3]. Tracker is based on Nepomuk
[4], a project to create a semantic metadata back-end that supports
all kind of
On 25/04/10 10:52, Scott Ritchie wrote:
It would be rather nice if the color were easily matched to a specific
menu option indicating WHY the indicator is glowing this way. So When
the power icon glows red, we can make the Restart button glow red too,
calling attention to it in particular
Presumably nothing can be added to the notification area without sudo,
so either you are already pwned (game over) or else you can trust the
notification. Not so for pop-up windows.
I think the pop-up Update Manager window was an interesting idea worth
exploring for a couple of releases, but with
Hi Matthew, Mark,
First of all, I'd like to say thank you for posting this as a
discussion to the list - whether I like or dislike what you want to
do it's best it's spoken about!
I think I agree with the notification area being a bad thing,
however I'm not sure that a set of unmovable
That is the reason while the pop-up/under/what ever is a BAD idea. And
the reason is that it is asynchronous, so the user is getting taught
to respond to (possibly fake) windows request their password. This is
a path for disaster if we ever get remotely close to solving Bug n. 1.
And, answering
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 13:55 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote:
That is the reason while the pop-up/under/what ever is a BAD idea. And
the reason is that it is asynchronous, so the user is getting taught
to respond to (possibly fake) windows request their password. This is
a path for disaster if
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 13:39 -0400, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
So...what does a web page do with the user's password once it's obtained? Not
much,
Go here and read the saga:
http://thecoffeedesk.com/news/index.php/2009/08/22/4chan-hacked-facebook-pictures/
They used the password from one site to
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 13:55 -0400, Jim Rorie wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 10:55 +0100, Mark Shuttleworth wrote:
2) I have to dig through the menu to trigger updates(Hmm, is that
preferences or administration? I can never remember). Annoying for a
regular task.
Again.
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Marc Deslauriers
marc.deslauri...@canonical.com wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 13:55 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote:
That is the reason while the pop-up/under/what ever is a BAD idea. And
the reason is that it is asynchronous, so the user is getting taught
to
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 19:28 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote:
Option #1: Display an icon in the notification area that nobody clicks,
as a result security updates never get installed and system is
compromised from the lack of important security updates.
Option #2: Pop-up the update dialog
On Monday 26,April,2010 01:39 AM, Marc Deslauriers wrote:
On Sun, 2010-04-25 at 13:55 -0300, Paulo J. S. Silva wrote:
That is the reason while the pop-up/under/what ever is a BAD idea. And
the reason is that it is asynchronous, so the user is getting taught
to respond to (possibly fake)
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