On Thu, 2010-05-13 at 14:20 -0700, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
Perhaps read the rest of the conversation and you will read all the
previous examples of difficulty with some functions.
You said impossible. Now suddenly it's difficulty.
It would help this list tremendously if everyone tried to be
On 14 May 2010 11:58, Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com wrote:
A valid point I got from a Mac user: Selecting the file to use quick
look is more often used than actually opening the file (because it is
quicker …). That would be a problem if we actually had quick look or
another kind of
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:58 +0200, Conscious User wrote:
Again, I think some of you are giving *way* too much importance
to most used and treating it as if it meant the same as the
only one used.
Like way too often, this read is running in circles now. I would like to
suggest to just stop.
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:37 +0200, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
That is exactly why interaction needs to be intuitive and not require
learning.
This is totally unrealistic. Humans can't even walk or talk without
learning.
Some say the nipple would be the only intuitive interface. I've been
I like the idea of rapid access to contacts, but how would we handle an
addressbook with 2,000 entries?
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With GNOME-Shell coming, arises problem of managing small windows
which you need to always have here at hand. The greatest problem are
chat windows. Yes, replying from the notification is good, but what if
you need to copy a link from Firefox, then return to a chat window and
paste it? Switch to
On May 14, 2010, at 4:00 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:58 +0200, Conscious User wrote:
Again, I think some of you are giving *way* too much importance
to most used and treating it as if it meant the same as the
only one used.
Like way too often, this
Favorites? Common groups? Most recent contacts,
On May 14, 2010, at 5:15 AM, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I like the idea of rapid access to contacts, but how would we handle
an
addressbook with 2,000 entries?
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On 14/05/10 14:48, Tyler Brainerd wrote:
On May 14, 2010, at 4:00 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:58 +0200, Conscious User wrote:
Again, I think some of you are giving *way* too much importance
to most used and treating it as if it meant the same
Very well-worded point, Thorsten. This expresses in clean, concise words
(and with references!) my general feelings on the subject.
Thanks,
-Scott
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:57 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:37 +0200, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
That is
Chat windows used to be one click away. This was one of the best
arguments against it until they made the tray.
http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2009/07/05/getting-the-message/
but you can still use the same argument, in that, gnome shell cannon't
presume to know how all applications will work.
Dictionary.com defines 'intuition' as:
Direct perception of truth, fact, etc., independent of any reasoning process
(http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/intuition)
The perception of a fact with no reasoning process at all seems impossible
to me.. but it leaves the question of how do you
Or the best find-as-you-type that you can imagine.
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 6:48 AM, Tyler Brainerd tylerbrain...@gmail.comwrote:
Favorites? Common groups? Most recent contacts,
On May 14, 2010, at 5:15 AM, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I like the idea of rapid access to
I actually agree. Which word ought we to use instead, to describe the ease
of understanding that a user has when interacting in a way that is familiar
through learned experience?
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 3:57 AM, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:37 +0200,
How do you access an addressbook of 2,000 entries with a traditional window?
That seems like a daunting task by itself, so I'd be curious to know what
the strategy there is.
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 06:15, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote:
I like the idea of rapid access to contacts, but
Thanks Tyler!
I like the idea of rapid access to contacts, but how would we handle
an address-book with 2,000 entries?
the same way android does! not readily done in a menu tho :p a filter
could be added as well cus we got a keyboard.
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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 17:35, Jeremy Nickurak jer...@nickurak.ca wrote:
How do you access an addressbook of 2,000 entries with a traditional window?
That seems like a daunting task by itself, so I'd be curious to know what
the strategy there is.
In the Contact List of Empathy, if you start
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:07, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
In the Contact List of Empathy, if you start typing the name of the
one you are looking for, a search box will appear. You'll end up
selecting the entry. There are a number of problems with this:
Any reason this couldn't work with
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 18:11, Jeremy Nickurak jer...@nickurak.ca wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 10:07, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
In the Contact List of Empathy, if you start typing the name of the
one you are looking for, a search box will appear. You'll end up
selecting the entry.
These are all good but I don't think any cover the concept of being
extremely quick to learn
A UI can be very unfamiliar, but draw on many well-understood concepts to
create something completely new yet easily understood.
Language is a flexible thing, often changed over time by usage, and I
But even with this, its generally through the ingrained
cultural familiarity with computers that allows a user to, for instance,
navigate to a website. http://www. is hardly easy to learn in and of itself,
but it is familiar enough to not cause horrible problems (sometimes).
I think the only way
https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+FogEP8aTA :p I
really gotta stop sending you personal messages Tyler.
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On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:41 AM, David Hamm davidth...@gmail.com wrote:
https://wave.google.com/wave/waveref/googlewave.com/w+FogEP8aTA :p I
really gotta stop sending you personal messages Tyler.
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On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 17:29 +0100, Joe Lanman wrote:
These are all good but I don't think any cover the concept of being
extremely quick to learn
If you mean quick to learn (as in learnability under the aspect of
required time), then just say so!?
A UI can be very unfamiliar, but draw on
however, its still totally unclear about whats going on. theres no text
highlighting or anything. especially if the contact is offline, its very
difficult to figure out whats going on.
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 9:47 AM, Remco remc...@gmail.com wrote:
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 18:35, Tyler Brainerd
https://docs.google.com/drawings/edit?id=1jC_EV0X2GuZh15xN9QvmUzquK7EjqVkCbqgXbgEsYOYhl=en
Maybe this would be better then wave, :p wave is still to young.
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Hi,
I was listening to the dx-m-indicator-sound session at UDS-M. I'm really
looking forward to the work on this now! (Although I couldn't find the
Gobby document). Kudos for using existing specifications (eg: MPRIS) for
all of this! It goes a long way.
Has some decision been reached on how
If it draws on many well-understood concepts, it is bound to seem
familiar to those who indeed understand those concepts well.
I think if I showed a user a new interface for the first time, for instance
an iPad, and asked if it was familiar, they would say no, even if it was
easily learnable.
Hi!
I tried to collect the thoughts so far, regarding single-click mode for
activation, but starting from the possible objective of getting rid of
double-clicking:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/DoubleClick
You might find that biased. Please add things that I might have missed.
Edit the wiki
Hey developers :)
There has been quite a discussion on Ubuntu’s usability mailing list
(Ayatana) about making single click standard or not:
https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg01863.html (There are some
mockups as well.)
The single click was mainly mentioned for usability (open may be the
On 14 May 2010 12:57, Thorsten Wilms t...@freenet.de wrote:
On Fri, 2010-05-14 at 11:37 +0200, Jan-Christoph Borchardt wrote:
That is exactly why interaction needs to be intuitive and not require
learning.
This is totally unrealistic. Humans can't even walk or talk without
learning.
On Fri, May 14, 2010 at 2:32 PM, Frederik Nnaji
frederik.nn...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi David, your mockup looks pretty.. becoming more like a hybrid between our
notification bubbles and and interactive progress indication dialog..
i like the visual this is taking!
Come to think of it, I recall
On 14 May 2010 19:19, Dylan McCall dylanmcc...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
I was listening to the dx-m-indicator-sound session at UDS-M. I'm really
looking forward to the work on this now! (Although I couldn't find the
Gobby document). Kudos for using existing specifications (eg: MPRIS) for
all of
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