Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

2010-06-17 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 03:57 +0200, Frederik Nnaji wrote: * delete application from /usr/share/applications to do apt-get remove [package] * drag a package name or apt-url into this folder to do apt:[package] * show details about software application in side pane (version, homepage, report a

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-17 Thread Kristoffer Lundén
2010/6/16 Conscious User consciousu...@aol.com Kristoffer, calm down. [...] There is no evil conspiracy to break your desktop experience, just a desire to see if there are any improvement possibilities that are being overlooked. I am calm. And I don't think there is a conspiracy. I have

Re: [Ayatana] Farewell to the notification area

2010-06-17 Thread Conscious User
Now, moving on with the discussion itself: Real shortly then: broken but not-yet-replaceable applications needs two things from their indicators: 1. to be able to interact left/right click etc 2. to be able to be seen at all times Instead of keeping the notification area *exactly* as it

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-17 Thread Anzan Hoshin Roshi
On 17 June 2010 05:04, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: On 16/06/10 17:09, Anzan Hoshin Roshi wrote: Mark, why will the panel not allow feature management? Because we can have a very good, usable experience without a hidden menu from right-click. All right, I think I know what

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed minimize to tray ?

2010-06-17 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jake Tolbert wrote on 16/06/10 05:05: On Tue, Jun 15, 2010 at 2:10 AM, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com mailto:docto...@gmail.com wrote: ... That is what you would get if you removed the ... from the bar when they get resized. I never

Re: [Ayatana] Is it time we killed minimize to tray ?

2010-06-17 Thread Luke Benstead
On 15 June 2010 08:10, Martin Owens docto...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, 2010-06-14 at 14:08 +0100, Luke Benstead wrote: Is there a reason why DockbarX is not suitable for this? I've attached a screenshot incase people dunno what I'm talking about :) That is what you would get if you removed

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-17 Thread David Hamm
click/hover (touch have pressure sometimes), long press. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

2010-06-17 Thread David Hamm
:D insert happiness -(image) stolen from google attachment: Over the rainbow.png___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help :

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-17 Thread Martin Owens
Hey David, On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 07:59 -0700, David Hamm wrote: there's also swipe (down), shake, multi-finger, and eye tracking. 0_0 but these require fine tuning. (insert (mighty) mouse) You mean perhaps in the future if we look confused at an icon then the computer will pick up our

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roth Robert wrote on 03/05/10 13:22: ... Starting a new topic to discuss the suggestions, comments, ideas regarding the windicators http://www.markshuttleworth.com/archives/333 Mark blogged about. ... With help from Ted Gould of the DX team, I

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Conscious User
With help from Ted Gould of the DX team, I have now (mostly) finished a specification for windicators, with a few examples. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Ayatana/Windicators Nice work. I don't know if you simply consider this too obvious, but I think there should be a guideline recommending that

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Window indicators, or windicators, are menus that appear at the trailing end of a window’s title bar, or in the panel when the window is maximized. Application developers can use windicators for reflecting status, and allowing change of status, for the item or items presented in the window.

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Conscious User
So far, these just seem to be menus, but with an optional icon instead of text. So I have to ask: Why don't these belong in the regular application menu bar? guess The windicators will also be able to use the icons to show status, like panel indicators do. /guess

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Dylan McCall
On Thu, Jun 17, 2010 at 7:58 AM, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roth Robert wrote on 03/05/10 13:22: ... Starting a new topic to discuss the suggestions, comments, ideas regarding the windicators

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Luke Benstead
On 17 June 2010 15:58, Matthew Paul Thomas m...@canonical.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Roth Robert wrote on 03/05/10 13:22: ... Starting a new topic to discuss the suggestions, comments, ideas regarding the windicators

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Luke Benstead
Hmm... here is a quote from Mark in an earlier thread that I started: For designing indicators, ask yourself: - what is the *status* I am conveying, and - what options are there to manipulate that status? If you don't have both, especially the status, don't use an indicator. Use a

Re: [Ayatana] What do to about right-clicking on the indicator-applet?

2010-06-17 Thread David Hamm
lol, exactly! ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post to : ayatana@lists.launchpad.net Unsubscribe : https://launchpad.net/~ayatana More help : https://help.launchpad.net/ListHelp

Re: [Ayatana] Applications, a navigable folder

2010-06-17 Thread David Hamm
just messing around, this looks really neat, and with with all the apt: stuff installing running and removing applications will not only be fast and clean but will also make windows look very sloppy. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana Post

Re: [Ayatana] Redesigning the Ubuntu mouse cursor for simple notification of app attention

2010-06-17 Thread Remco
On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 21:41, Greg K Nicholson g...@gkn.me.uk wrote: On 16 June 2010 15:24, Mark Shuttleworth m...@ubuntu.com wrote: Platform team is reviewing unclutter for inclusion in the default install and session. \o/ ( Everyone: Alt+F2, apt:unclutter Alt+F2, unclutter ) After

Re: [Ayatana] Windicators

2010-06-17 Thread Omer Akram
On Thu, 2010-06-17 at 11:13 -0700, Dylan McCall wrote: (And a quick note about Evolution: 2.30 has evolution-express. Try evolution --express from the command line. It's used in Meego and it is awesome). Express mode will be used in Maverick UNE (expectedly).[1]

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/ubuntu-no-proxy-support into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-17 Thread Ted Gould
Review: Approve Looks fine to me. review approve On Wed, 2010-06-16 at 21:13 +, Cody Russell wrote: Cody Russell has proposed merging lp:~bratsche/appmenu-gtk/ubuntu-no-proxy-support into lp:appmenu-gtk. Requested reviews: Canonical Desktop Experience Team (canonical-dx-team)

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/application-fallback into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-17 Thread David Barth
Review: Approve The framework part looks fine. The rest of the code (the big if/else statement changes) is difficult to follow and a good bugs nest imo. That would benefit from becoming small routines with a clearer purpose mapped to the different scenarios envisaged in the spec. window_menus,

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~dbarth/appmenu-gtk/blacklist-hack into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-17 Thread David Barth
The point is not being the right approach: the point is to 1. contain changes where they belong (less moving parts, less bugs) 2. fix the bloody thing in time without having to patch 10 packages in 2 distros So unless there is a code error, this goes in. --

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/application-fallback into lp:indicator-appmenu

2010-06-17 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~ted/indicator-appmenu/application-fallback into lp:indicator-appmenu has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ted/indicator-appmenu/application-fallback/+merge/27794 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/mpris-backend into lp:indicator-sound

2010-06-17 Thread Conor Curran
Conor Curran has proposed merging lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/mpris-backend into lp:indicator-sound. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Introduces MPRIS V1 and V2 backends to the service along with the corresponding custom dbusmenuitem objects

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/mpris-backend into lp:indicator-sound

2010-06-17 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~cjcurran/indicator-sound/mpris-backend into lp:indicator-sound has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~cjcurran/indicator-sound/mpris-backend/+merge/27847 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-sound.

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~dbarth/appmenu-gtk/blacklist-hack into lp:appmenu-gtk

2010-06-17 Thread noreply
The proposal to merge lp:~dbarth/appmenu-gtk/blacklist-hack into lp:appmenu-gtk has been updated. Status: Needs review = Merged -- https://code.launchpad.net/~dbarth/appmenu-gtk/blacklist-hack/+merge/27831 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:appmenu-gtk.

[Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-sound/distcheck-fixes into lp:indicator-sound

2010-06-17 Thread Ken VanDine
Ken VanDine has proposed merging lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-sound/distcheck-fixes into lp:indicator-sound. Requested reviews: Indicator Applet Developers (indicator-applet-developers) Fixes distcheck, the 0.3.0 tarball was missing files and wouldn't build. --

Re: [Ayatana-commits] [Merge] lp:~ken-vandine/indicator-sound/distcheck-fixes into lp:indicator-sound

2010-06-17 Thread Conor Curran
Review: Approve -- https://code.launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/indicator-sound/distcheck-fixes/+merge/27874 Your team ayatana-commits is subscribed to branch lp:indicator-sound. ___ Mailing list: https://launchpad.net/~ayatana-commits Post to :